http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9478044/Israeli-minister-warns-of-30-day-war-with-Iran.html

A strike on Iran’s nuclear sites would spark a 30-day war with missile attacks on Israel's cities and as many as 500 dead, according to the Israeli minister responsible for preparing home defences.

Matan Vilnai, who is stepping down as home front defence minister to become ambassador to China, said the country was “ready as never before”.

“The assessments are for a war that will last 30 days on a number of fronts,” he told the Maariv newspaper.

“It could be that there will be less fatalities, but it could be there will be more, that is the scenario that we are preparing for according to the best experts.”

Speculation is growing that Israel is planning a unilateral attack on Iran’s nuclear programme - or that it is using the question to increase pressure on Barack Obama to launch an American strike.

Israel is convinced that archenemy Iran is trying to build nuclear weapons, dismissing Tehran's claims that its nuclear programme is for civilian purposes. Israel considers nuclear-armed Iran to be a mortal danger. Iran backs anti-Israel militants with funds and weapons, and its leaders often call for Israel's destruction.

In his latest pronouncement, Iranian Supreme leader Ali Khamenei said Israel will disappear from "the scene of geography." Addressing war veterans in Tehran on Wednesday, he said Iran considers it its "religious duty to save this Islamic country (Palestine) from the clutches of the Zionist occupiers."

Israel's leaders have indicated an attack is a possibility if they conclude the international community has failed to halt the Iranian nuclear program.

Mr Vilnai did not elaborate on how he reached his assessments, but his office relies on intelligence and other assessments about Iranian weapons capabilities and Israeli susceptibility. Defense Minister Ehud Barak has also said the Israeli death toll could be in the range of 500 in such a conflict.

"Just as the citizens of Japan have to realize that they can have earthquakes, so the citizens of Israel have to realize that if they live here, they have to be prepared to expect missiles on the home front," Vilnai said. "It's not pleasant for the home front, but decisions have to be made, and we have to be ready."

At a news briefing in Washington on Tuesday, Leon Panetta, the US defence secretary, reaffirmed the US assessment that Israel has not yet decided whether to strike, while the US military chief, Gen. Martin Dempsey, echoed a widely held assessment that an Israeli operation would only set back, not destroy, Iran's nuclear project.

I think a attack on Iran is possible.

its pretty obvious iran wants nukes as a bargaining chip/prevent any possibility of an invasion, given it has been ringed with bases if i was in charge of iran it's exactly the kind of policy i would have pursued as well

JC Denton wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

its pretty obvious iran wants nukes as a bargaining chip/prevent any possibility of an invasion, given it has been ringed with bases if i was in charge of iran it's exactly the kind of policy i would have pursued as well

So you are in favour of violating the nuclear non proliferation treaty?

If you sign a treaty to get nuclear technology from the west which also forbids you from making nuclear weapons do you think you should honour this agreement?

When the treaty is aimed at solidifying the military/technological hegemony of a few select countries, why not?

Any such treaty isn't worth the paper it's written on, and I suspect the powers behind it well know it. Doesn't stop them attempting to bully smaller nations into line though, if they're gullible enough to accept it.

Ignore a signed international treaty because you don't like it?
That is very Muslim.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:12pm:

Ignore a signed international treaty because you don't like it? That is very Muslim.

As opposed to not signing the treaty and threatning other nations with your nuclear weapons?
That must be the civilised way to do it?

In her coming troubles, God bless, and help Israel and her people.





Isaiah 40:1
Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
2  Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.

Yadda wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:

In her coming troubles, God bless, and help Israel and her people. Isaiah 40:1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. 2  Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.

Funny that 'god' is also the one who got them into all this shyt.

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 12:50pm:

JC Denton wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 12:45pm: its pretty obvious iran wants nukes as a bargaining chip/prevent any possibility of an invasion, given it has been ringed with bases if i was in charge of iran it's exactly the kind of policy i would have pursued as well So you are in favour of violating the nuclear non proliferation treaty? If you sign a treaty to get nuclear technology from the west which also forbids you from making nuclear weapons do you think you should honour this agreement?

[speaking with a moslem mind].....
Of course, others should honour such an agreement.
But not us moslems.



We moslems are Allah's perfect, and holy people.

Allah has told us this, in his holy Koran, so we know this.

And, you non-moslems can have every confidence, that we moslems would never use nuclear weapons irresponsibly,
....we, are moslems.


"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah.......[and it is the 'unbelievers' who] are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

Yeah yadda, your fiction book clearly proves their fiction book wrong.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:54pm:

Yadda wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 2:52pm: In her coming troubles, God bless, and help Israel and her people. Isaiah 40:1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. 2  Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins. Funny that 'god' is also the one who got them into all this shyt.

Saul by another name,

You will find out WHO is in the 'do-do', moments after you have taken your last breath.

:D




Too late then!        ;D

Yadda wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:

In her coming troubles, God bless, and help Israel and her people. Isaiah 40:1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. 2  Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.

But dont worry about anyone else right?

SOB

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:12pm:

Ignore a signed international treaty because you don't like it? That is very Muslim.

Exactly so, Avram.



HISTORY teaches us that;

Moslems honor the treaty they sign.
......while-soever doing so, is in their interests.

And moslems abandon the treaty they signed.
......the moment doing so, is in their interests.







An agreement, a pact, a treaty, with a moslem entity....
....isn't worth the paper it is written on.


Google;
treaty of hudaybiyyah, tactical deceit


Google;
agreements with muslims, worthless muslim deception

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 3:14pm:

Yadda wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 2:52pm: In her coming troubles, God bless, and help Israel and her people. Isaiah 40:1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. 2  Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins. But dont worry about anyone else right? SOB

SPOT,

Who ?

Why would the living God be 'worried', about liars and murderers ???

Why would the living God be 'worried', about those who refuse to repent their wickedness.





Ezekiel 35:1
Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2  Son of man, set thy face against mount Seir, and prophesy against it,
3  And say unto it, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O mount Seir, I am against thee, and I will stretch out mine hand against thee, and I will make thee most desolate.
4  I will lay thy cities waste, and thou shalt be desolate, and thou shalt know that I am the LORD.
5  Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end:
6  Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will prepare thee unto blood, and blood shall pursue thee: sith thou hast not hated blood, even blood shall pursue thee.


Ezekiel 35:11
....as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according to thine anger, and according to thine envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when I have judged thee.
12  And thou shalt know that I am the LORD, and that I have heard all thy blasphemies which thou hast spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, They are laid desolate, they are given us to consume.
13  Thus with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:20pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 2:12pm: Ignore a signed international treaty because you don't like it? That is very Muslim. As opposed to not signing the treaty and threatning other nations with your nuclear weapons? That must be the civilised way to do it?

Where?
Who says we have nuclear capability?

Show me one Eretz Israel statement.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 2:20pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 2:12pm: Ignore a signed international treaty because you don't like it? That is very Muslim. As opposed to not signing the treaty and threatning other nations with your nuclear weapons? That must be the civilised way to do it? Where? Who says we have nuclear capability? Show me one Eretz Israel statement.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

israel doesnt have nukes??! who says we do?!!

come on, everybody knows it now. you don't have to lie to us buddy.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 2:20pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 2:12pm: Ignore a signed international treaty because you don't like it? That is very Muslim. As opposed to not signing the treaty and threatning other nations with your nuclear weapons? That must be the civilised way to do it? Where? Who says we have nuclear capability? Show me one Eretz Israel statement.

How else would people with no balls start threatening a country like Iran?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel

Israel is widely believed to possess nuclear weapons[6][7] and to be the sixth country in the world to develop them.[8] It is one of four nuclear-armed countries not recognized as a Nuclear Weapons State by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), the others being India, Pakistan and North Korea.[9] Israel maintains a policy known as "nuclear ambiguity" (also known as "nuclear opacity").[10][11] Israel has never officially admitted to having nuclear weapons, instead repeating over the years that it would not be the first country to "introduce" nuclear weapons to the Middle East, leaving ambiguity as to whether it means it will not create, will not disclose, will not make first use of the weapons or possibly some other interpretation of the phrase.[12] The "not be the first" formulation goes back to before March 11, 1965, when a cable from the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv to Washington noted "The Government of Israel has reaffirmed that Israel will not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons into the Arab-Israel area."[13] Israel has refused to sign the NPT despite international pressure to do so, and has stated that signing the NPT would be contrary to its national security interests.[14]

obviously you couldn't give a stuff about the treaty - if the fact that somebody can sign it and violete it is so important to you, why doesnt it matter if somebody refuses to sign it at all? this is just a very lame casus belli, nothing more.

There is no comment to be made on Israel nuclear capability.

You do not know anything about what is possessed by Israel.

Iran is the problem as they are violating the NPT and in contravening UN Resolutions.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 4:40pm:

There is no comment to be made on Israel nuclear capability. You do not know anything about what is possessed by Israel.

liar - israel definitely has nukes. it wont even fess up to them or sign your beloved NPT which you allege to be so important and at the heart of this entire issue.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 4:40pm:

There is no comment to be made on Israel nuclear capability. You do not know anything about what is possessed by Israel. Iran is the problem as they are violating the NPT and in contravening UN Resolutions.

Shut up about the NPT you idiot

The United States has made the statement they must follow the NPT you foolish anti Semite.

JC Denton wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:40pm: There is no comment to be made on Israel nuclear capability. You do not know anything about what is possessed by Israel. liar - israel definitely has nukes. it wont even fess up to them or sign your beloved NPT which you allege to be so important and at the heart of this entire issue.

Israel's possession or non possession is not the issue.
The UN Security Council has already ruled on this and it was vetoed.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

The United States has made the statement they must follow the NPT you foolish anti Semite.

Which means nothing.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 5:04pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 5:01pm: The United States has made the statement they must follow the NPT you foolish anti Semite. Which means nothing.

Tell that to Saddam Hussein and Milosovic.