I watched 7.30 last night and Julia was very impressive. She demonstrated her clear passion for standing up for the lower and working class, and spoke very well and effectively. When the election approaches, most Australins will come to see that the Coalition have no policies and no vision. All they want is power, and a return to extreme policies like work choices. Meanwhile, Labor and the Greens will stand up for those who do it tough. The choice will be clear. 12 months is a very long time in politics. They have plenty of time.

Yes of course GreenLight, it most certainly is possible. Labor could very well win the 2013 election.    ;) 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
:o :o :o :o
:-?

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

I watched 7.30 last night and Julia was very impressive. She demonstrated her clear passion for standing up for the lower and working class, and spoke very well and effectively. When the election approaches, most Australins will come to see that the Coalition have no policies and no vision.

You think that matters? The majority of voters make decisions based on what they read/view in the media.

And the media want you to think this country's going down the drain - this sells.

It's got to be a first: a government thrown out of office with low unemployment, low interest rates, no big foreign wars. Julia will be thrown out simply because people don't trust her.

Mind you, they don't trust Abbott either, but they see him as the worse of two evils. Personally, I can't remember an election that has been faught on such a fickle agenda - and where the choices are as stark as they are now. I might even vote Labor for the first time - they're pretty much a minority party.

Still, it's hardly an election. The Governor General might as well announce a Liberal government now. Labor have no chance of getting in whatsoever.

Democracy is a myth. Abbott will be the next PM. As far as the corrupt unions and the carbon tax fixes and the shonky Labor spin go, I can't think of a worse path for this country to go in than an Abbott-led government.

Possible path, that is. Fascism and communism are not really on the agenda.

But Abbott is.

Not a first at all.

Howard was thrown out with low interest rates, low unemployment, large budget surplus, and an economy that was stronger than it is now.

I watched 7.30 last night



Along with 5% of Australians.

However I would expect nothing else from you. I will admit her style is changing, but speaking in a more controlled and quiet manner doesn't make swinging voters suddenly show trust.

Guildford wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:

I watched 7.30 last night Along with 5% of Australians. However I would expect nothing else from you. I will admit her style is changing, but speaking in a more controlled and quiet manner doesn't make swinging voters suddenly show trust.

5% indeed, most of which would be school teachers and public servants.

They don't have a chance ATM
Their chance will come when Liberals release policy.
However that will be as late as possible with the least amount of supporting information possible.

After all you can't have an informed electorate, you might not win.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:49pm:

They don't have a chance ATM Their chance will come when Liberals release policy. However that will be as late as possible with the least amount of supporting information possible. After all you can't have an informed electorate, you might not win.

The Coalitions policies will be fully costed by the newly-established Parliamentary Budget Office.

Shane B wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 12:49pm: They don't have a chance ATM Their chance will come when Liberals release policy. However that will be as late as possible with the least amount of supporting information possible. After all you can't have an informed electorate, you might not win. The Coalitions policies will be fully costed by the newly-established Parliamentary Budget Office.

What the one they refuse to use now or the one they create after gaining office?
Do you think they'll employ any WA accountants?


Quote:

Federal parliament has begun debating the merits of a new independent unit which would cost election promises and policies for all parliamentarians. But one of the more controversial aspects of the Gillard Government’s bill for a Parliamentary Budget Office (PBO) – making all costings immediately public – is being hotly contested, with Shadow Treasurer Joe Hockey introducing a private members' bill to keep costings secret during the election period. Mr Hockey has said the Opposition would not use the PBO unless the rules were changed.

http://theconversation.edu.au/costing-the-promises-what-is-a-parliamentary-budget-office-3061

Your blind faith is quite touching if not a little naive.

Sorry Smithy, your news is a bit old. This is more up-to-date:

JOURNALIST:
The government is about to announce, apparently, the Parliamentary Budget Office. Can you give us a sense of what use you would make of that and what limitations you would put on it?

JOE HOCKEY:
We will make use of it. We actually had a large number of proposed amendments to the Parliamentary Budget Office legislation. I thought they were amendments that were very worthwhile and maybe one day Labor will be in opposition and they will really regret they didn't support those amendments, I would suspect. But we will work with the Parliamentary Budget Office through the framework that I've outlined. We will send policies where it is appropriate to the Parliamentary Budget Office and ask them to provide advice on it. We're very keen to find out who the key personnel are and if they are independent and honourable people then we will use that Parliamentary Budget Office as a very positive initiative.

http://www.joehockey.com/media/transcripts/details.aspx?s=336

Shane B wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Sorry Smithy, your news is a bit old. This is more up-to-date: JOURNALIST: The government is about to announce, apparently, the Parliamentary Budget Office. Can you give us a sense of what use you would make of that and what limitations you would put on it? JOE HOCKEY: We will make use of it. We actually had a large number of proposed amendments to the Parliamentary Budget Office legislation. I thought they were amendments that were very worthwhile and maybe one day Labor will be in opposition and they will really regret they didn't support those amendments, I would suspect. But we will work with the Parliamentary Budget Office through the framework that I've outlined. We will send policies where it is appropriate to the Parliamentary Budget Office and ask them to provide advice on it. We're very keen to find out who the key personnel are and if they are independent and honourable people then we will use that Parliamentary Budget Office as a very positive initiative. http://www.joehockey.com/media/transcripts/details.aspx?s=336

So did he get his PM bill through or not.
Will costing be released or not during the campaign, & if not what's the point of it?

Who determines whether a policy is appropiate?

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 1:13pm:

Shane B wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:10pm: Sorry Smithy, your news is a bit old. This is more up-to-date: JOURNALIST: The government is about to announce, apparently, the Parliamentary Budget Office. Can you give us a sense of what use you would make of that and what limitations you would put on it? JOE HOCKEY: We will make use of it. We actually had a large number of proposed amendments to the Parliamentary Budget Office legislation. I thought they were amendments that were very worthwhile and maybe one day Labor will be in opposition and they will really regret they didn't support those amendments, I would suspect. But we will work with the Parliamentary Budget Office through the framework that I've outlined. We will send policies where it is appropriate to the Parliamentary Budget Office and ask them to provide advice on it. We're very keen to find out who the key personnel are and if they are independent and honourable people then we will use that Parliamentary Budget Office as a very positive initiative. http://www.joehockey.com/media/transcripts/details.aspx?s=336 So did he get his PM bill through or not. Will costing be released or not during the campaign, & if not what's the point of it?

No, the PM Bill wasn't supported by the Government.

As Mr Hockey said, they will make use the Parliamentary Budget Office to cost their policies.

I'm sure Labor will be putting their policies to the PBO, it would be very silly for the Liberals not to do the same.

Prediction going by this thread. At the next election, we will be introducted to, none other than

The new, new, neeewwwww Julair Gillard

give her a round of applause. No I said applause, not eggs.

Shane B wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 1:15pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:13pm: Shane B wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:10pm: Sorry Smithy, your news is a bit old. This is more up-to-date: JOURNALIST: The government is about to announce, apparently, the Parliamentary Budget Office. Can you give us a sense of what use you would make of that and what limitations you would put on it? JOE HOCKEY: We will make use of it. We actually had a large number of proposed amendments to the Parliamentary Budget Office legislation. I thought they were amendments that were very worthwhile and maybe one day Labor will be in opposition and they will really regret they didn't support those amendments, I would suspect. But we will work with the Parliamentary Budget Office through the framework that I've outlined. We will send policies where it is appropriate to the Parliamentary Budget Office and ask them to provide advice on it. We're very keen to find out who the key personnel are and if they are independent and honourable people then we will use that Parliamentary Budget Office as a very positive initiative. http://www.joehockey.com/media/transcripts/details.aspx?s=336 So did he get his PM bill through or not. Will costing be released or not during the campaign, & if not what's the point of it? No, the PM Bill wasn't supported by the Government. As Mr Hockey said, they will make use the Parliamentary Budget Office to cost their policies. I'm sure Labor will be putting their policies to the PBO, it would be very silly for the Liberals not to do the same.

They didn't last time & that was under the model Howard created.
Who knows, Liberals aren't serious about this country if they were Abbott would not be leading & 3/4 of his Shadow ministry would still be speaking at KKK meetings(where they belong) instead of parliament.

If Labor win the next election, SURPRISED is not the word that would come to mind!

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:21pm:

You think that matters? The majority of voters make decisions based on what they read/view in the media.

Make up your mind. I thought Alan Jones was the one person shaping minds. Do you honestly think those knuckle-dragging bogans can actually read?

Saladin.

I am the phuking Mahdi. I am the phuking Expected One. I am the phuking Right Guided One.

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

I watched 7.30 last night and Julia was very impressive. She demonstrated her clear passion for standing up for the lower and working class, and spoke very well and effectively. When the election approaches, most Australins will come to see that the Coalition have no policies and no vision. All they want is power, and a return to extreme policies like work choices. Meanwhile, Labor and the Greens will stand up for those who do it tough. The choice will be clear. 12 months is a very long time in politics. They have plenty of time.

I am telling you right now the ALP are not going to win the next election - they are rusted in on Free Trade ideology and anti environmental taxation and immigration policies, they have tunnel vision, they are frightened of and incapable of change, they refuse to put Australia first and for 30 years of epic globalist fail, they have to go... :) :)

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

Meanwhile, Labor and the Greens will stand up for those who do it tough. The choice will be clear. 12 months is a very long time in politics. They have plenty of time.

You mean that a combined ALP/Greens team will put an end to organisations seeking volunteers and donations? An end to the sight of people selling yellow ribbons on Daffodil Day? An end to the sight of people selling red noses on Red Nose Day to raise funds for SIDS? What a beautiful future awaits us. How can I join the ALP/Greens "We Care for the Struggling, Infirm, Afflicted, Frail AUSTRALIANS?

Maybe the ALP/Greens team could help the people at Bear Cottage. Maybe the team might pay to have guide dogs trained rather than people volunteering their time to train guide dogs. Boy I'm excited.

On what page of the ALP/Greens' manifesto will I find the promise to aid Australian care organisations.



Quote:

how do volunteers help? Bear Cottage relies heavily on a fabulous team of volunteers to assist with the smooth day to day running of the house. Volunteers complement the professional staff by providing practical support to our children and families during their stay. We ask that our volunteers are flexible and willing to help out wherever a need arisies within the house, this encompasses many diverse areas including:     Working alongside the play therapist & nursing staff with activities for the patients and their siblings such as play, craft, reading stories or taking them on outings     Assisting staff with practical activities such as cooking, cleaning & gardening     Taking visitors on tours of the house     Speaking externally to community groups who support Bear Cottage     Driving families to outings or appointments     Walking our dog Frankie     Administrative assistance Volunteers need to show flexibility and a willingness to help out wherever there is a need. Find out how to become a volunteer. http://www.bearcottage.chw.edu.au/volunteer/help.html

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 1:30pm:

Shane B wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:15pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:13pm: Shane B wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:10pm: Sorry Smithy, your news is a bit old. This is more up-to-date: JOURNALIST: The government is about to announce, apparently, the Parliamentary Budget Office. Can you give us a sense of what use you would make of that and what limitations you would put on it? JOE HOCKEY: We will make use of it. We actually had a large number of proposed amendments to the Parliamentary Budget Office legislation. I thought they were amendments that were very worthwhile and maybe one day Labor will be in opposition and they will really regret they didn't support those amendments, I would suspect. But we will work with the Parliamentary Budget Office through the framework that I've outlined. We will send policies where it is appropriate to the Parliamentary Budget Office and ask them to provide advice on it. We're very keen to find out who the key personnel are and if they are independent and honourable people then we will use that Parliamentary Budget Office as a very positive initiative. http://www.joehockey.com/media/transcripts/details.aspx?s=336 So did he get his PM bill through or not. Will costing be released or not during the campaign, & if not what's the point of it? No, the PM Bill wasn't supported by the Government. As Mr Hockey said, they will make use the Parliamentary Budget Office to cost their policies. I'm sure Labor will be putting their policies to the PBO, it would be very silly for the Liberals not to do the same. They didn't last time & that was under the model Howard created. Who knows, Liberals aren't serious about this country if they were Abbott would not be leading & 3/4 of his Shadow ministry would still be speaking at KKK meetings(where they belong) instead of parliament.

Oh oh oh look look look a race card and the KKK on the 1st page. :o

LOL how utterly pathetic!! ;D

I LOL in your general direction. ;D ;D

Perhaps people will vote for Abbott because of the dribbling shrill loops that support the left? :-/

:D

No chance.

Labor can't even keep all of its hardcore base. Do you really think people like me, who decide elections, are going to vote for them?

No way.

Shane B wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:41pm:

Not a first at all. Howard was thrown out with low interest rates, low unemployment, large budget surplus, and an economy that was stronger than it is now.

True, but the economy is better now than it was under Howard.

Anyway, he'd been there 11 years.

Shane B wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:41pm:

Not a first at all. Howard was thrown out with low interest rates, low unemployment, large budget surplus, and an economy that was stronger than it is now.

Ahh no.  The economy is approximately $100b bigger (in GDP terms) now that it was in 2007.

We have had consistant positive GDP growth every year since howard.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 3:38pm:

Shane B wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 12:41pm: Not a first at all. Howard was thrown out with low interest rates, low unemployment, large budget surplus, and an economy that was stronger than it is now. Ahh no.  The economy is approximately $100b bigger (in GDP terms) now that it was in 2007. We have had consistant positive GDP growth every year since howard.

I was referring to growth, not the absolute level of GDP.

Levels versus rates of change.

Annual growth, gross domestic product (inflation adjusted).

2001/02
3.9%      

2002/03
3.2%

2003/04
4.1%

2004/05
3.2%      

2005/06
3.0%      

2006/07
3.8%

2007/08
3.8%
     
2008/09
1.4%      

2009/10
2.3%      

2010/11
2.1%

salad in wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 12:21pm: You think that matters? The majority of voters make decisions based on what they read/view in the media. Make up your mind. I thought Alan Jones was the one person shaping minds. Do you honestly think those knuckle-dragging bogans can actually read?

Definately not, but based on the ones on this board, they seem to be able to write.

Shane B wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 3:44pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 3:38pm: Shane B wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 12:41pm: Not a first at all. Howard was thrown out with low interest rates, low unemployment, large budget surplus, and an economy that was stronger than it is now. Ahh no.  The economy is approximately $100b bigger (in GDP terms) now that it was in 2007. We have had consistant positive GDP growth every year since howard. I was referring to growth, not the absolute level of GDP. Levels versus rates of change.

Very impressive isnt it.  You'd barely know we had the greatest financial crisis since the great depression during that time, and hides the fact that our growth differential between us and the rest of the world is at level never dreamed of before.

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

I watched 7.30 last night and Julia was very impressive. She demonstrated her clear passion for standing up for the lower and working class, and spoke very well and effectively. When the election approaches, most Australins will come to see that the Coalition have no policies and no vision. All they want is power, and a return to extreme policies like work choices. Meanwhile, Labor and the Greens will stand up for those who do it tough. The choice will be clear. 12 months is a very long time in politics. They have plenty of time.

In the end, Tony Abbott has no solution to the 'contention' issue regarding broadband in Australia.

This will prove to be true if the libs destroy the NBN!

You heard it hear last.............................  ::)

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

I watched 7.30 last night and Julia was very impressive. She demonstrated her clear passion for standing up for the lower and working class, and spoke very well and effectively. When the election approaches, most Australins will come to see that the Coalition have no policies and no vision. All they want is power, and a return to extreme policies like work choices. Meanwhile, Labor and the Greens will stand up for those who do it tough. The choice will be clear. 12 months is a very long time in politics. They have plenty of time.

Don't be surprised if aliens rise from the oceans to enslave the human race next Tuesday. Don't be surprised if your dog starts talking to you tomorrow night. Don't be surprised if Gillard never tells a lie again. Oh, wait - that last one seems highly unlikely to occur, unlike the other scenarios!

We shall see.  It won't be easy, but Labor has a shot.

Shane B wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Sorry Smithy, your news is a bit old. This is more up-to-date: JOURNALIST: The government is about to announce, apparently, the Parliamentary Budget Office. Can you give us a sense of what use you would make of that and what limitations you would put on it? JOE HOCKEY: We will make use of it. We actually had a large number of proposed amendments to the Parliamentary Budget Office legislation. I thought they were amendments that were very worthwhile and maybe one day Labor will be in opposition and they will really regret they didn't support those amendments, I would suspect. But we will work with the Parliamentary Budget Office through the framework that I've outlined. We will send policies where it is appropriate to the Parliamentary Budget Office and ask them to provide advice on it. We're very keen to find out who the key personnel are and if they are independent and honourable people then we will use that Parliamentary Budget Office as a very positive initiative. http://www.joehockey.com/media/transcripts/details.aspx?s=336

so they will only send some policies if they feel it's appropriate (ie, not making up the numbers) and only if THEY feel the people are independant and honourable .... which will just end up like it is now, the libs will end up claiming that you cannot trust them , their figures are wrong, they are lieing blah blah blah ....

I can't believe he tried to introduce a bill to keep the costing private ..... bugger me, and you guys complain about Gillard .....
:o :o :o :o

John Smith wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:02pm:

Shane B wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:10pm: Sorry Smithy, your news is a bit old. This is more up-to-date: JOURNALIST: The government is about to announce, apparently, the Parliamentary Budget Office. Can you give us a sense of what use you would make of that and what limitations you would put on it? JOE HOCKEY: We will make use of it. We actually had a large number of proposed amendments to the Parliamentary Budget Office legislation. I thought they were amendments that were very worthwhile and maybe one day Labor will be in opposition and they will really regret they didn't support those amendments, I would suspect. But we will work with the Parliamentary Budget Office through the framework that I've outlined. We will send policies where it is appropriate to the Parliamentary Budget Office and ask them to provide advice on it. We're very keen to find out who the key personnel are and if they are independent and honourable people then we will use that Parliamentary Budget Office as a very positive initiative. http://www.joehockey.com/media/transcripts/details.aspx?s=336 so they will only send some policies if they feel it's appropriate (ie, not making up the numbers) and only if THEY feel the people are independant and honourable .... which will just end up like it is now, the libs will end up claiming that you cannot trust them , their figures are wrong, they are lieing blah blah blah .... I can't believe he tried to introduce a bill to keep the costing private ..... bugger me, and you guys complain about Gillard ..... :o :o :o :o

The Greens have never sent any of their policies to Treasury for costing. Why the double standard, John?

Labor might win because people will think twice before
putting Abbott into power.

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http://www.f4e.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/julia-gillard-a-nazi-by-another-name.jpg

Very funny Tone.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 10:19pm:

Very funny Tone.

Given her behaviour, thoughts and policies, it might turn out to be quite accurate...

John Smith wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:02pm:

so they will only send some policies if they feel it's appropriate (ie, not making up the numbers) and only if THEY feel the people are independant and honourable .... which will just end up like it is now, the libs will end up claiming that you cannot trust them , their figures are wrong, they are lieing blah blah blah .... I can't believe he tried to introduce a bill to keep the costing private ..... bugger me, and you guys complain about Gillard ..... :o :o :o :o

Gawd, you are going to suffer when Abbott's PM. You'll go mad.

I don't/can't believe anyone still really supports Abbott.!! Its all just a big joke isn't it. ?  And a chance to have a go at the PM.  I also saw 7.30   .....and that is the person I WANT AS PM. 

For all you mexicans (ie sth of QLD border)  watch what is happening here. 
Newman's cando Libs are facing thousands protesting int the streets, because of their 'austerity measures.'  Newman says so much crap... Qld'd be bankrupt.... except WE will save you.!!!  Only  ...You'll have to pay.!!     Bollocks,  and I'm wondering when t he Police will be mobilised to quell public opinion.  Probably not too soon.!  After all the MORON voters of QLD gave the fhead an OBSCENE majority.

You want to do that too????  Talk about SHEEP... the bleating Abbott and cronies make lots of noise.... nonsensical noise in the main,  but the SHEEP  follow because the noise is so ?????.

Stuffed if I know,,, except ...you are morons if you think anyone other than The Prime Minister . The Honorable Julia Gillard... has a hope of leading Australians into a better future.

You're whetting your knives, sharpening your swords .... for a treacherous and traitorous rat.

Shakespeare has presented us with this same principle, generations ago..   still we machinate to our own DETRIMENT.!!!

Fools truly - thats what you are.

Emma wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:06am:

I don't/can't believe anyone still really supports Abbott.!! Its all just a big joke isn't it. ?  And a chance to have a go at the PM.  I also saw 7.30   .....and that is the person I WANT AS PM.  For all you mexicans (ie sth of QLD border)  watch what is happening here.  Newman's cando Libs are facing thousands protesting int the streets, because of their 'austerity measures.'  Newman says so much crap... Qld'd be bankrupt.... except WE will save you.!!!  Only  ...You'll have to pay.!!     Bollocks,  and I'm wondering when t he Police will be mobilised to quell public opinion.  Probably not too soon.!  After all the MORON voters of QLD gave the fhead an OBSCENE majority. You want to do that too????  Talk about SHEEP... the bleating Abbott and cronies make lots of noise.... nonsensical noise in the main,  but the SHEEP  follow because the noise is so ?????. Stuffed if I know,,, except ...you are morons if you think anyone other than The Prime Minister . The Honorable Julia Gillard... has a hope of leading Australians into a better future. You're whetting your knives, sharpening your swords .... for a treacherous and traitorous rat. Shakespeare has presented us with this same principle, generations ago..   still we machinate to our own DETRIMENT.!!! Fools truly - thats what you are.

I couldn't have said it any better. She was great on 7.30 wasn't she? Passionate, caring and empathic. THAT is the real Julia, not the way that the media makes her out to be. I still have faith that the electorate will wake up to Abbott, and realise how good Julia has been for the country, and will be into the future. She's still in with a chance.

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:11am:

Emma wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 12:06am: I don't/can't believe anyone still really supports Abbott.!! Its all just a big joke isn't it. ?  And a chance to have a go at the PM.  I also saw 7.30   .....and that is the person I WANT AS PM.  For all you mexicans (ie sth of QLD border)  watch what is happening here.  Newman's cando Libs are facing thousands protesting int the streets, because of their 'austerity measures.'  Newman says so much crap... Qld'd be bankrupt.... except WE will save you.!!!  Only  ...You'll have to pay.!!     Bollocks,  and I'm wondering when t he Police will be mobilised to quell public opinion.  Probably not too soon.!  After all the MORON voters of QLD gave the fhead an OBSCENE majority. You want to do that too????  Talk about SHEEP... the bleating Abbott and cronies make lots of noise.... nonsensical noise in the main,  but the SHEEP  follow because the noise is so ?????. Stuffed if I know,,, except ...you are morons if you think anyone other than The Prime Minister . The Honorable Julia Gillard... has a hope of leading Australians into a better future. You're whetting your knives, sharpening your swords .... for a treacherous and traitorous rat. Shakespeare has presented us with this same principle, generations ago..   still we machinate to our own DETRIMENT.!!! Fools truly - thats what you are. I couldn't have said it any better. She was great on 7.30 wasn't she? Passionate, caring and empathic. THAT is the real Julia, not the way that the media makes her out to be. I still have faith that the electorate will wake up to Abbott, and realise how good Julia has been for the country, and will be into the future. She's still in with a chance.

;D ;D ;D


BTW - the 7.30 report IS media. Nobody watches it, but it is still media.

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:11am:

Emma wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 12:06am: I don't/can't believe anyone still really supports Abbott.!! Its all just a big joke isn't it. ?  And a chance to have a go at the PM.  I also saw 7.30   .....and that is the person I WANT AS PM.  For all you mexicans (ie sth of QLD border)  watch what is happening here.  Newman's cando Libs are facing thousands protesting int the streets, because of their 'austerity measures.'  Newman says so much crap... Qld'd be bankrupt.... except WE will save you.!!!  Only  ...You'll have to pay.!!     Bollocks,  and I'm wondering when t he Police will be mobilised to quell public opinion.  Probably not too soon.!  After all the MORON voters of QLD gave the fhead an OBSCENE majority. You want to do that too????  Talk about SHEEP... the bleating Abbott and cronies make lots of noise.... nonsensical noise in the main,  but the SHEEP  follow because the noise is so ?????. Stuffed if I know,,, except ...you are morons if you think anyone other than The Prime Minister . The Honorable Julia Gillard... has a hope of leading Australians into a better future. You're whetting your knives, sharpening your swords .... for a treacherous and traitorous rat. Shakespeare has presented us with this same principle, generations ago..   still we machinate to our own DETRIMENT.!!! Fools truly - thats what you are. I couldn't have said it any better.

That's right. And nor could jalane. It's just not in you to say things any better than you always do. That's why you either don't make sense or are hilarious, often both.

I'd like to think the same  TGL,  :).

That Australians, when it comes to the crunch, will make the right decision.

Hopefully they'll have had their fun  :-?  and realise what is the BEST OPTION.

I continue to be appalled at the partisan behaviour of the media. It has muted a little, since its BECOME CLEAR that the Slipper affair,  AND the Thomson affair, are looking more and more like what they are....corrupt and traitorous actions to  bring down this government.

Abbott is complicit and culpable,  and so are way too many other LNP heavyweights.

IT SHOWS SO CLEARLY THE CONTEMPT THE LNP HAVE FOR THE PEOPLE OF AUSTRALIA.

They really think we are stupid.!!
And SADLY ...the morons in QLD who VOTED in the NEWMAN LNP GOVERNMENT seem to prove that THEY ARE RIGHT.

And I suspect, many of those LNP voters are now marching in the streets.
No sympathy from me...... morons.! :(

Emma wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:25am:

Australians will make the right decision. ... the morons in QLD who VOTED in the NEWMAN LNP GOVERNMENT

I see. Australians make the right decision when they agree with you but are morons when they don't.

and oh Soren .. you don't make sense I'm bound to tell you. :) 
At least, I put it on myself to correct ignorance, when I see it , and when it is appropriate. 

Your post is simply  :) incomprehensible.! :)

Emma wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:25am:

I'd like to think the same  TGL,  :). That Australians, when it comes to the crunch, will make the right decision. Hopefully they'll have had their fun  :-?  and realise what is the BEST OPTION. I continue to be appalled at the partisan behaviour of the media. It has muted a little, since its BECOME CLEAR that the Slipper affair,  AND the Thomson affair, are looking more and more like what they are....corrupt and traitorous actions to  bring down this government. Abbott is complicit and culpable,  and so are way too many other LNP heavyweights. IT SHOWS SO CLEARLY THE CONTEMPT THE LNP HAVE FOR THE PEOPLE OF AUSTRALIA. They really think we are stupid.!! And SADLY ...the morons in QLD who VOTED in the NEWMAN LNP GOVERNMENT seem to prove that THEY ARE RIGHT. And I suspect, many of those LNP voters are now marching in the streets. No sympathy from me...... morons.! :(

Well lucky for us, those morons will never vote a greens government in and by the looks, a labor government for a while either.

Now that, as you put it, must be the right decision.

Emma wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:06am:

I don't/can't believe anyone still really supports Abbott.!! Its all just a big joke isn't it. ?  And a chance to have a go at the PM.  I also saw 7.30   .....and that is the person I WANT AS PM.  For all you mexicans (ie sth of QLD border)  watch what is happening here.  Newman's cando Libs are facing thousands protesting int the streets, because of their 'austerity measures.'  Newman says so much crap... Qld'd be bankrupt.... except WE will save you.!!!  Only  ...You'll have to pay.!!     Bollocks,  and I'm wondering when t he Police will be mobilised to quell public opinion.  Probably not too soon.!  After all the MORON voters of QLD gave the fhead an OBSCENE majority. You want to do that too????  Talk about SHEEP... the bleating Abbott and cronies make lots of noise.... nonsensical noise in the main,  but the SHEEP  follow because the noise is so ?????. Stuffed if I know,,, except ...you are morons if you think anyone other than The Prime Minister . The Honorable Julia Gillard... has a hope of leading Australians into a better future. You're whetting your knives, sharpening your swords .... for a treacherous and traitorous rat. Shakespeare has presented us with this same principle, generations ago..   still we machinate to our own DETRIMENT.!!! Fools truly - thats what you are.

Really? He is the preferred PM and according to polling for a long time now, he will lead the Coalition to a thumping win over Labor. Only a fool would go back to Gillard for more lies, backstabbing, higher debt, more illegal immigrants and broken promises.

Soren wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:33am:

Emma wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 12:25am: Australians will make the right decision. ... the morons in QLD who VOTED in the NEWMAN LNP GOVERNMENT I see. Australians make the right decision when they agree with you but are morons when they don't.

Don't try to be so disingenuous!!

Plainly you see  ...very little. :)

Emma wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:42am:

Soren wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 12:33am: Emma wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 12:25am: Australians will make the right decision. ... the morons in QLD who VOTED in the NEWMAN LNP GOVERNMENT I see. Australians make the right decision when they agree with you but are morons when they don't. Don't try to be so disingenuous!! Plainly you see  ...very little. :)

Plainly... you're nuts. :)

Ah  now we have Proglol,...hysterical as ever.. and armpit.!!

And all Armpit can say is..." Plainly... you're nuts. "

Where is that yawn emoticon ? 


:D

so what- you DIDN'T hear about the conspiracy thats coming to light, over  Mr Slipper??

You aren't aware of that?

That LNP heavyweights were in extensive consultation with Ash... before it became public.??

I mean it 's not news to me, but... did you know about this? 
HunkyDory?

you exhibit the same anathema to honesty and fair play as your idol.

Not worthy ...not worthy.

Bow down to your betters.

Emma wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:58am:

so what- you DIDN'T hear about the conspiracy thats coming to light, over  Mr Slipper?? You aren't aware of that? That LNP heavyweights were in extensive consultation with Ash... before it became public.?? I mean it 's not news to me, but... did you know about this?  HunkyDory? you exhibit the same anathema to honesty and fair play as your idol. Not worthy ...not worthy. Bow down to your betters.

pure deflection

really?  that's it?
seemingly effective..if it shut you up. :)

Emma wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:52am:

Ah  now we have Proglol,...hysterical as ever.. and armpit.!! And all Armpit can say is..." Plainly... you're nuts. " Where is that yawn emoticon ? Where is that loser emoticon with the hand in the shape of an L on the forehead?  :D

Emma wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:58am:

That LNP heavyweights were in extensive consultation with Ash... before it became public.??

Yeah? And did they give him incorrect advice? That's the main question - did the LNP types do or say anything wrong?


I am not aware of any incorrect advice or conduct by them. Are you?

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:21pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 12:05pm: I watched 7.30 last night and Julia was very impressive. She demonstrated her clear passion for standing up for the lower and working class, and spoke very well and effectively. When the election approaches, most Australins will come to see that the Coalition have no policies and no vision. You think that matters? The majority of voters make decisions based on what they read/view in the media. And the media want you to think this country's going down the drain - this sells. It's got to be a first: a government thrown out of office with low unemployment, low interest rates, no big foreign wars. Julia will be thrown out simply because people don't trust her. Mind you, they don't trust Abbott either, but they see him as the worse of two evils. Personally, I can't remember an election that has been faught on such a fickle agenda - and where the choices are as stark as they are now. I might even vote Labor for the first time - they're pretty much a minority party. Still, it's hardly an election. The Governor General might as well announce a Liberal government now. Labor have no chance of getting in whatsoever. Democracy is a myth. Abbott will be the next PM. As far as the corrupt unions and the carbon tax fixes and the shonky Labor spin go, I can't think of a worse path for this country to go in than an Abbott-led government. Possible path, that is. Fascism and communism are not really on the agenda. But Abbott is.

really?? howard was kicked out with a booming economy LOWER unemplyment, no debt, budget surplus and every indicator better than the current govt.

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

We shall see.  It won't be easy, but Labor has a shot.

Decscribing you as an idiot is SO inadequate. failing the entire coalition from bench being arrest on sex charges, they cannot lose. mind you sex charges are usually the province of the ALP

Emma wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 12:58am:

so what- you DIDN'T hear about the conspiracy thats coming to light, over  Mr Slipper?? You aren't aware of that? That LNP heavyweights were in extensive consultation with Ash... before it became public.?? I mean it 's not news to me, but... did you know about this?  HunkyDory? you exhibit the same anathema to honesty and fair play as your idol. Not worthy ...not worthy. Bow down to your betters.

typical labor supporters.. worry about who said what to whom without even giving a second glance at the actual allegations. no onwder so many Labor MPs end up in jail. they really dont quite get 'the law'.

Your insecurity is coming in full force, Longewekend. I can feel it.

Jalane, you're absolutely right, and have faith! Labor stands a great shot of winning the election, especially with Tony as the Lib leader.

The masses are put off with the arrogance and presumptuousness of the Governments belief it will win the next election - most people just get angrier and more determined to punish the Government... >:( >:(

How can one be sure that the alternative will be any better?.   Tweedledum or Tweedledee.  Labor or Liberal.  Vote 1 Australian Greens.    ;)    :)     

wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 7:07am:

How can one be sure that the alternative will be any better?.   Tweedledum or Tweedledee.  Labor or Liberal.  Vote 1 Australian Greens.    ;)    :)

We just go around in circles, voting one lot of failures out to replace them with another lot.

Most voters haven't advanced enough to think beyond the two major parties. They might start to think for themselves when things get really bad, which they will.

Yes I think you are right pansi1951.  Things probably will get worse, before they get better.   Both Labor and Liberal, are not honest about the true level of unemployment.  One also wonders if they have the answers.  Just look at the Liberal states, which are about to sack thousands of public servants.  What about Mr Abbott, he wont or cant even spell out his industrial relations plans.  One wonders why is that?.  Could it be because it may be similar to work choices ( No Choice. )     :(      

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 8:51pm: We shall see.  It won't be easy, but Labor has a shot. Decscribing you as an idiot is SO inadequate. failing the entire coalition from bench being arrest on sex charges, they cannot lose. mind you sex charges are usually the province of the ALP

Try "intellectual non-entity"...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 8:03am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:15pm: TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 8:51pm: We shall see.  It won't be easy, but Labor has a shot. Decscribing you as an idiot is SO inadequate. failing the entire coalition from bench being arrest on sex charges, they cannot lose. mind you sex charges are usually the province of the ALP Try "intellectual non-entity"...

Yep..Labor will probably lose the next election but they are only half way through their term and anything can happen especially when Abbott has to finally release policies, costings and explain the whole lot in detail.
To say the Libs will get into power no matter what happens over the next year and a half is ignoring this countries political history as well as the histories of the two major parties.

labor have one major strength up their sleeve, the most hated opposition leader ever is still the leader of the Libs.

skippy. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 9:25am:

labor have one major strength up their sleeve, the most hated opposition leader ever is still the leader of the Libs.

I would be very surprised if Gillard makes it to the next election and Rudd would be a gift to the opposition so Im guessing we will see someone come from left field to lead Labor into a snap election.
Is there a Bob Hawke type person that could be parachuted in a la Campbell Newman?

adelcrow wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

skippy. wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 9:25am: labor have one major strength up their sleeve, the most hated opposition leader ever is still the leader of the Libs. . Is there a Bob Hawke type person that could be parachuted in a la Campbell Newman?

Yea his name is Bob Carr.

skippy. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 9:55am:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 9:52am: skippy. wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 9:25am: labor have one major strength up their sleeve, the most hated opposition leader ever is still the leader of the Libs. . Is there a Bob Hawke type person that could be parachuted in a la Campbell Newman? Yea his name is Bob Carr.

I assume Labor has a plan to checkmate the Libs sometime early next year so maybe its Carr coz the Libs and the media would have a field day with Rudd

skippy. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 9:25am:

labor have one major strength up their sleeve, the most hated opposition leader ever is still the leader of the Libs.

Yes, and he is Labor's best asset. He is also unelectable, and the only poll that matters is the poll on election day.

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 10:16am:

skippy. wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 9:25am: labor have one major strength up their sleeve, the most hated opposition leader ever is still the leader of the Libs. Yes, and he is Labor's best asset. He is also unelectable, and the only poll that matters is the poll on election day.

People vote idiots in to the top job..history shows Abbott has an excellent chance of becoming our next PM just as China stops buying our resources and Asia slumps into recession.
Good luck Tony you should have supported legislation that encouraged investment in new businesses and not just relied on mining to pay our way forever.

The Greens face liquidation at the next election and following DD and the Labor Party will be decapitated in its leadership. The ALP will be finished for up to three decades for implementing the agenda of the big banks and corporations.  Aussies are on the war path - they want to mete out punishment on the Government, High Court action is increasing anyone who suggests that the Greens and ALP do not face immanent political obliteration is being paid to say this.  I believe the Government is locked down in denial and cringing, knowing the day of wrath is approaching, immobilized, paralyzed and incapable of the necessary change and reform Australia needs to rebuild its manufacturing, agriculture and economy.

skippy. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 9:25am:

labor have one major strength up their sleeve, the most hated opposition leader ever is still the leader of the Libs.

Would you vote for this man?

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Bobby. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 11:18am:

skippy. wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 9:25am: labor have one major strength up their sleeve, the most hated opposition leader ever is still the leader of the Libs. Would you vote for this man?

The resemblance is uncanny.

It is uncanny - maybe Tony is a reincarnation?

I am sure that pictures like this one will dominate the next election if Tony is still the leader of the libs.

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The masses are turned off by the Governments negativity... 8-) 8-)

Bobby. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 11:36am:

It is uncanny - maybe Tony is a reincarnation?

Silly, Obama is the anti-Christ.

Shane B wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 11:36am: It is uncanny - maybe Tony is a reincarnation? Silly, Obama is the anti-Christ.

But all you've got to do is draw a moustache
& some 45 degree sideways hair on Tony & he looks like Hitler.  ;D

its pathetic how pitifully negative and corrupt the Government has become as it approaches its electoral Armageddon...I mean we are really going to put the fear of Christ in them for smacking with us... :) :)

Bobby. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 11:38am:

I am sure that pictures like this one will dominate the next election if Tony is still the leader of the libs.

only for young teenagers and morons like you.

The irony is they don't get that Nazism was a socialist movement. The left have conveniently tried to was their hands of that part of history.

Nazis was a war on the weak, fat, ugly, Jews, Disabled, gypsies as perceived by ideologues as inferior and unfit for a share in the economy and life - these were to be worked to death or exterminated, it is closely associated with communism and also Market ideology - lets not let them bury the truth behind slogans like socialism - they weren't marching blondes like Lara Bingle or Jennifer Hawkins to the Gas chambers...the Nazis were sacrificing other citizens to give those like them a privileged life.  Nazis were very spiteful elitists - very much like our pollies, corporates and sporting and arts & entertainment elites today... :P :P

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 5:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 11:38am: I am sure that pictures like this one will dominate the next election if Tony is still the leader of the libs. only for young teenagers and morons like you.

So the Libbos don't like this picture.  ;D

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Bobby. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 5:19pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 11:38am: I am sure that pictures like this one will dominate the next election if Tony is still the leader of the libs. only for young teenagers and morons like you. So the Libbos don't like this picture.  ;D

It reminds them that like Adolf, Abbott has his rivals framed and banged up in prison to keep them out of his way.

The Nazis were a psuedo scientific biological state & economy very much the same as the green extreme free market economy. 8-) 8-)

Shane B wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 11:36am: It is uncanny - maybe Tony is a reincarnation? Silly, Obama is the anti-Christ.

You normaally support the Liberals and conservatives

Shane B wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 5:23pm:

The irony is they don't get that Nazism was a socialist movement. The left have conveniently tried to was their hands of that part of history.

A little historical knowledge can lead you into getting that wrong.

Shane B wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 5:23pm:

The irony is they don't get that Nazism was a socialist movement. The left have conveniently tried to was their hands of that part of history.

Nazism used elements of the far-right racist Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture which fought against the communists in post-World War I Germany

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

Big Brother is Nazi propaganda = social law... :P :P :P

I'm back. ;D

So we've gone from the idea that Labor can win the next electon ..  to nazis = social Law?

Prevailing (sock) ...u r a real poop stirrer.!!! ;D

Yes - speeches like this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuaRGtIrM9U

I may not like Gillard or Abbott, particularly the former, but comparng either of them to Hitler?  ::)

A new low...

And for what it's worth, Labor have no chance at all of winning the election.

You could tell this far out in 2006, that the Libs were going to lose the 2007 election.

hey John ..you're allowed to put your two bobs worth in, just like the rest of us.! :)

Emma wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 10:34pm:

hey John ..you're allowed to put your two bobs worth in, just like the rest of us.! :)

:-?

labor winning.... because all the signs of a comeback are there, right???
idiots

Bump :D

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 11:33am:

labor winning.... because all the signs of a comeback are there, right??? idiots

People are startng to wake up to Tony's lies. 51 - 38% drop. There's your sign.

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 1:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 11:33am: labor winning.... because all the signs of a comeback are there, right??? idiots People are startng to wake up to Tony's lies. 51 - 38% drop. There's your sign.

it must be a great disappointment for you that in the same period of time labors primary vote DROPPED 3% and abbots 2PP lead increased.

do you ever tire of making idiotic analyses and predictions like your other sock greens_lose?

idiot.

john_g wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 10:29pm:

I may not like Gillard or Abbott, particularly the former, but comparng either of them to Hitler?  ::) A new low...

I think it's an apt comparison -
they are all liars.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuaRGtIrM9U

john_g wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 10:30pm:

And for what it's worth, Labor have no chance at all of winning the election. You could tell this far out in 2006, that the Libs were going to lose the 2007 election.

and what were the polls saying before Howards Tampa novel? maybe Gillard too needs to make up a bullshyte story for the polls to turn ...

It would seem the longer the LNP have to wait for an election.... at it's rightful time!, the worse they will appear in the Polls. 

7.30  (ABC1) tonight is a significant example.......  where in the past they were plainly anti- carbon tax, and Labor..... tonight they disclosed that a recent Poll --- that EVERYONE counts, for some unknown reasn.. ::)  - shows that NOW 60 % of Aussies believe they are no worse off, or even better off in some cases, than before the tax.
They also interviewed a chap ?? who was asked about the cost of the tax ...ie 23%  --the same old crap of  why should we if no-one else is, ?  - and what possible advantage  does it give us ??etc etc
The talking head. L Sales, or whatever her name is , has been positively rabid in the past....  tried the same old .....   but became I would suggest somewhat chastened by the end.  Boo Hoo
:'( :'( ;D ;D

I was going to post this on the TV thread, but this seemed a better option, as you morons love to quote statistics from 'Polls'.  ;D :D

I'd suggest you check it out.. if you didn't see it. :)

Australia is putting economic sanctions on itself and subsidizing foreign jobs at our own expense and these bottom crawling criminals joke about it while we suffer... >:( >:(

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

Australia is putting economic sanctions on itself and subsidizing foreign jobs at our own expense and these bottom crawling criminals joke about it while we suffer... >:( >:(

You are suffering??  From what for f's sake? Your own  negativity?.

... 'bottom crawling criminals'  ... 

What are you talking about.??  :-? :-?

John Smith wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 10:30pm: And for what it's worth, Labor have no chance at all of winning the election. You could tell this far out in 2006, that the Libs were going to lose the 2007 election. and what were the polls saying before Howards Tampa novel? maybe Gillard too needs to make up a bullshyte story for the polls to turn ...

Yeah..like I said John G  ...2 Bobs worth.! 8-)

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 11:33am:

labor winning.... because all the signs of a comeback are there, right??? idiots

They certainly are now. A 5% jump to 33% in Labor's primary vote.

Labor has the same chance of winning the next election as I do of replacing Andrew Strauss as the next captain of England.

I'm a half decent player but I'd rate our chances about the same....

How wonderful it is having the Australian greens, with the balance of power in the senate.  What very good insurance that is.    :)

wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 11:57am:

How wonderful it is having the Australian greens, with the balance of power in the senate.  What very good insurance that is.    :)

Not necessarily the case.

You saw with the (good) decision of offshoring asylum seekers that when there is consensus - the Greens and their handful of senators become completely and totally irrelevant.

Which is what you would expect from a party that can only convince 1 person in 10 to vote for them.

They have the balance of power in the senate.  Seems hardly irrelevant to me.    :)

wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

They have the balance of power in the senate.  Seems hardly irrelevant to me.    :)

How come they have 0 chance of stopping offshore processing then?

wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

They have the balance of power in the senate.  Seems hardly irrelevant to me.    :)

Balance of power is meaningless if the major parties agree. and here is a clue... 96% of legislation is bipartisan (labor and liberal agree) and surprise, surprise, the greens voted against most of those 96%.  In fact the greens tend to vote ONLY for their own policies which is why they arae so uselss in parliament.

How can you say the Greens are useless when they brought in the carbon tax - a great reform for us, our children and their children to come?

TheGreenLight wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 3:30pm:

How can you say the Greens are useless when they brought in the carbon tax - a great reform for us, our children and their children to come?

If you had the brains to understand irony, you would reread your post and be embarrassed.

But being a Green, you naturally lack any such skills.

I see long weekend hiding behind a sock hasn't managed to hide his lies.

jeezz

NOT more SOCKS.!!!!

Look to QLD - I'd advise ANY one thinking LNP = good idea. :o :-? ::)

Emma wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

jeezz NOT more SOCKS.!!!! Look to QLD - I'd advise ANY one thinking LNP = good idea. :o :-? ::)

I'm from Qld and am so relieved to have an LNP government. It was a dream come true for me, as a life-ling Liberal voter, to have my very working-class electorate become a Liberal-held one.

Be assured my foolish friend - you are in the minority. ::)

And let me hear you say the same thing in 6 mths time.
By then the penny may have dropped.

Emma wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:17pm:

Be assured my foolish friend - you are in the minority. ::) And let me hear you say the same thing in 6 mths time. By then the penny may have dropped.

How many seats did the LNP win again??

and I find your language suss indeed.

'my very working-class electorate....'  :-? :-?

After the $85 billion debt left by Bligh and Co? No thanks. And what minority? Labor's the one with a primary vote of 22%. This year's election was just the entree to next year's delicious main course of Labor's federal annihilation.

Emma wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:

and I find your language suss indeed. 'my very working-class electorate....'  :-? :-?

I live in a very working class suburb of Brisbane, which has never had an LNP member until this year. All Labor previously.

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:

After the $85 billion debt left by Bligh and Co? No thanks. And what minority? Labor's the one with a primary vote of 22%. This year's election was just the entree to next year's delicious main course of Labor's federal annihilation.

I do get what you are saying.

It's just,... what government could have come out of devastating cyclones in the North, and record flooding over up to 3/4 of the state, without incurring some pretty massive costs. ??  !!

Hmm? I don't deny there were costs... but to believe a super quikkie audit from such a party as Peter Costello stating these dramatic figures, all waste???  ...f-off??    the man has a major vested interest, and it astonishes me that people swallow that  same old garbage over and over.  Do you think the Libs could have done better.??

I don't.

Emma wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 8:19pm: After the $85 billion debt left by Bligh and Co? No thanks. And what minority? Labor's the one with a primary vote of 22%. This year's election was just the entree to next year's delicious main course of Labor's federal annihilation. I do get what you are saying. It's just,... what government could have come out of devastating cyclones in the North, and record flooding over up to 3/4 of the state, without incurring some pretty massive costs. ??  !! Hmm? I don't deny there were costs... but to believe a super quikkie audit from such a party as Peter Costello stating these dramatic figures, all waste???  ...f-off??    the man has a major vested interest, and it astonishes me that people swallow that  same old garbage over and over.  Do you think the Libs could have done better.?? I don't.

QLD flood levy??? Some of us are paying that.