http://www.theage.com.au/world/chinese-footprint-grows-20120719-22cvh.html

HE average Chinese person's carbon footprint is now almost on a par with the average European's, new figures show.

China became the largest national emitter of carbon dioxide in 2006, though its emissions per person have always been lower than those in developed countries such as Europe's.

But this week's report by the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency and the European Commission's Joint Research Centre show that per capita emissions in China increased by 9 per cent in 2011 to reach 7.2 tonnes per person, only a fraction lower than the EU average of 7.5 tonnes. The figure for the US is much higher - at 17.3 tonnes - though total Chinese carbon emissions are now about 80 per cent higher than those of America.

The widening gap reflects the 9 per cent increase in China's emissions in 2011, driven mainly by coal use, compared with a 2 per cent fall in the US.
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Total emissions in Europe and Japan also fell last year, by 3 per cent and 2 per cent respectively. But emissions rose across much of the developing world, including India, which saw a 6 per cent increase. As a result, OECD nations now account for only about a third of the global total.

Oh dear, how are the commie AGW'rs going to try and get other commies (China) on board the AGW good ship lollypop.

Let's look at the "per capita" argument based on population

Australia = 18.9 x     22,000,000 people

C-Hina    =  7.2 x 1,300,000,000 people

even though the rest of the world is IN DEBT to China...isnt China regarded as an emerging industrial country??? hehehehe.

we had better not tell anyone this.. otherwise they will stop buying our evil dirty godforsaken ore.that we all know is the cause of evil dirty godforsaken carbon.

Hold on here,  Maqqa, progs, cods, etc have been telling us that Global warming is a hoax.

Why would they care about co2 emissions any more than o2 emissions ?

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:02am:

Hold on here,  Maqqa, progs, cods, etc have been telling us that Global warming is a hoax. Why would they care about co2 emissions any more than o2 emissions ?

Because that is one of the arguments the loons use for new socialist tax with a lefty solution looking for a problems (co2)

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:02am: Hold on here,  Maqqa, progs, cods, etc have been telling us that Global warming is a hoax. Why would they care about co2 emissions any more than o2 emissions ? Because that is one of the arguments the loons use for new socialist tax with a lefty solution looking for a problems (co2)

For a start, a "loon" is a denier.  Someone who elevates beliefs over logic.  Lets get the terminology right.

What is very encouraging is that european levels have dropped due to carbon pricing and other determined measures. This gives a lot of hope that we can turn it around, and they have laid the blueprint for others to follow.

Its inherently racist to say that a chinese man cannot polute more than a european or Australian.  The world fully expects China, and India to rise to the levels of western countries as they develop.  Once there, they fall into the same responsibilities for cuts as we have.

What is disgusting, is that an Australian produces more the twice as much co2 polution as a european for a similar quality of life. We should be embarrased that we're at this state, and those advocating for us to keep increasing our co2 output while europe decreses its output, should be doubly embarrased by their greed.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:02am:

Hold on here,  Maqqa, progs, cods, etc have been telling us that Global warming is a hoax. Why would they care about co2 emissions any more than o2 emissions ?

Where did I say it was a hoax?

Temperature have varied from maximum and minimum for thousands of years now!!

There's been at least 4 Ice Ages - so climate changes have occurred since Adam was a boy

The Earth's over 4 billion years old - I am sure there's been a couple of climate changes over that time

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:02am: Hold on here,  Maqqa, progs, cods, etc have been telling us that Global warming is a hoax. Why would they care about co2 emissions any more than o2 emissions ? Where did I say it was a hoax? Temperature have varied from maximum and minimum for thousands of years now!! There's been at least 4 Ice Ages - so climate changes have occurred since Adam was a boy The Earth's over 4 billion years old - I am sure there's been a couple of climate changes over that time

Your stupid OP is about co2 emissions. You believe that  is not causing global warming.  That is what you think is a hoax.

As usual, any questioning of your belief causes  you to run, hide, deflect, etc.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:45am: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:02am: Hold on here,  Maqqa, progs, cods, etc have been telling us that Global warming is a hoax. Why would they care about co2 emissions any more than o2 emissions ? Where did I say it was a hoax? Temperature have varied from maximum and minimum for thousands of years now!! There's been at least 4 Ice Ages - so climate changes have occurred since Adam was a boy The Earth's over 4 billion years old - I am sure there's been a couple of climate changes over that time Your stupid OP is about co2 emissions. You believe that  is not causing global warming.  That is what you think is a hoax. As usual, any questioning of your belief causes  you to run, hide, deflect, etc.

I am sure it's causing Global Warming

But we don't even know how much humans are contributing to the overall carbon emissions?

Do we contribute 0.0001% or 50%

Interesting how no Climate Scientists can give us that answer

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:50am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:47am: Maqqa wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:45am: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:02am: Hold on here,  Maqqa, progs, cods, etc have been telling us that Global warming is a hoax. Why would they care about co2 emissions any more than o2 emissions ? Where did I say it was a hoax? Temperature have varied from maximum and minimum for thousands of years now!! There's been at least 4 Ice Ages - so climate changes have occurred since Adam was a boy The Earth's over 4 billion years old - I am sure there's been a couple of climate changes over that time Your stupid OP is about co2 emissions. You believe that  is not causing global warming.  That is what you think is a hoax. As usual, any questioning of your belief causes  you to run, hide, deflect, etc. I am sure it's causing Global Warming But we don't even know how much humans are contributing to the overall carbon emissions? Do we contribute 0.0001% or 50% Interesting how no Climate Scientists can give us that answer

Yes they can.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:34am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:05am: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:02am: Hold on here,  Maqqa, progs, cods, etc have been telling us that Global warming is a hoax. Why would they care about co2 emissions any more than o2 emissions ? Because that is one of the arguments the loons use for new socialist tax with a lefty solution looking for a problems (co2) For a start, a "loon" is a denier.  Someone who elevates beliefs over logic.  Lets get the terminology right. What is very encouraging is that european levels have dropped due to carbon pricing and other determined measures. This gives a lot of hope that we can turn it around, and they have laid the blueprint for others to follow. Its inherently racist to say that a chinese man cannot polute more than a european or Australian.  The world fully expects China, and India to rise to the levels of western countries as they develop.  Once there, they fall into the same responsibilities for cuts as we have. What is disgusting, is that an Australian produces more the twice as much co2 polution as a european for a similar quality of life. We should be embarrased that we're at this state, and those advocating for us to keep increasing our co2 output while europe decreses its output, should be doubly embarrased by their greed.

A denier then is a loon

So anyone who denies anything is a loon

It's called rhetorical demonising

If you are so interested in facts then show us how much humans contribute to the overall carbon emissions - in percentage terms

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 7:59am:

http://www.theage.com.au/world/chinese-footprint-grows-20120719-22cvh.html HE average Chinese person's carbon footprint is now almost on a par with the average European's, new figures show. China became the largest national emitter of carbon dioxide in 2006, though its emissions per person have always been lower than those in developed countries such as Europe's. But this week's report by the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency and the European Commission's Joint Research Centre show that per capita emissions in China increased by 9 per cent in 2011 to reach 7.2 tonnes per person, only a fraction lower than the EU average of 7.5 tonnes. The figure for the US is much higher - at 17.3 tonnes - though total Chinese carbon emissions are now about 80 per cent higher than those of America. The widening gap reflects the 9 per cent increase in China's emissions in 2011, driven mainly by coal use, compared with a 2 per cent fall in the US.Advertisement Total emissions in Europe and Japan also fell last year, by 3 per cent and 2 per cent respectively. But emissions rose across much of the developing world, including India, which saw a 6 per cent increase. As a result, OECD nations now account for only about a third of the global total.

How on earth do some of the idiots advocating a carbon tax on Australia and allowing China's to rise - not see this highlighted area as a problem????

China needs to be held accountable as well and that means they should NOT be allowed to grow their emissions and this destructive rate.

Amazing how those who allegedly care for the world environment have no problem with the world's worst polluter growing at a shocking rate and not even looking like reducing....

80% higher emissions than the next worst polluter.....

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:51am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:50am: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:47am: Maqqa wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:45am: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:02am: Hold on here,  Maqqa, progs, cods, etc have been telling us that Global warming is a hoax. Why would they care about co2 emissions any more than o2 emissions ? Where did I say it was a hoax? Temperature have varied from maximum and minimum for thousands of years now!! There's been at least 4 Ice Ages - so climate changes have occurred since Adam was a boy The Earth's over 4 billion years old - I am sure there's been a couple of climate changes over that time Your stupid OP is about co2 emissions. You believe that  is not causing global warming.  That is what you think is a hoax. As usual, any questioning of your belief causes  you to run, hide, deflect, etc. I am sure it's causing Global Warming But we don't even know how much humans are contributing to the overall carbon emissions? Do we contribute 0.0001% or 50% Interesting how no Climate Scientists can give us that answer Yes they can.

Then  you should be able to provide evidence from at least 3 sources

so go ahead

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 7:59am: http://www.theage.com.au/world/chinese-footprint-grows-20120719-22cvh.html HE average Chinese person's carbon footprint is now almost on a par with the average European's, new figures show. China became the largest national emitter of carbon dioxide in 2006, though its emissions per person have always been lower than those in developed countries such as Europe's. But this week's report by the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency and the European Commission's Joint Research Centre show that per capita emissions in China increased by 9 per cent in 2011 to reach 7.2 tonnes per person, only a fraction lower than the EU average of 7.5 tonnes. The figure for the US is much higher - at 17.3 tonnes - though total Chinese carbon emissions are now about 80 per cent higher than those of America. The widening gap reflects the 9 per cent increase in China's emissions in 2011, driven mainly by coal use, compared with a 2 per cent fall in the US.Advertisement Total emissions in Europe and Japan also fell last year, by 3 per cent and 2 per cent respectively. But emissions rose across much of the developing world, including India, which saw a 6 per cent increase. As a result, OECD nations now account for only about a third of the global total. How on earth do some of the idiots advocating a carbon tax on Australia and allowing China's to rise - not see this highlighted area as a problem???? China needs to be held accountable as well and that means they should NOT be allowed to grow their emissions and this destructive rate. Amazing how those who allegedly care for the world environment have no problem with the world's worst polluter growing at a shocking rate and not even looking like reducing.... 80% higher emissions than the next worst polluter.....

And that andrei - is the idiocy of the Labor and Greens party

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:34am: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:05am: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:02am: Hold on here,  Maqqa, progs, cods, etc have been telling us that Global warming is a hoax. Why would they care about co2 emissions any more than o2 emissions ? Because that is one of the arguments the loons use for new socialist tax with a lefty solution looking for a problems (co2) For a start, a "loon" is a denier.  Someone who elevates beliefs over logic.  Lets get the terminology right. What is very encouraging is that european levels have dropped due to carbon pricing and other determined measures. This gives a lot of hope that we can turn it around, and they have laid the blueprint for others to follow. Its inherently racist to say that a chinese man cannot polute more than a european or Australian.  The world fully expects China, and India to rise to the levels of western countries as they develop.  Once there, they fall into the same responsibilities for cuts as we have. What is disgusting, is that an Australian produces more the twice as much co2 polution as a european for a similar quality of life. We should be embarrased that we're at this state, and those advocating for us to keep increasing our co2 output while europe decreses its output, should be doubly embarrased by their greed. A denier then is a loon So anyone who denies anything is a loon It's called rhetorical demonising If you are so interested in facts then show us how much humans contribute to the overall carbon emissions - in percentage terms

In the subject of climate change, a denier is a loon, because they are advocating a position based on a belief system, rather than logic.   Is is this thought process which defines a "loon" or not.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 7:59am: http://www.theage.com.au/world/chinese-footprint-grows-20120719-22cvh.html HE average Chinese person's carbon footprint is now almost on a par with the average European's, new figures show. China became the largest national emitter of carbon dioxide in 2006, though its emissions per person have always been lower than those in developed countries such as Europe's. But this week's report by the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency and the European Commission's Joint Research Centre show that per capita emissions in China increased by 9 per cent in 2011 to reach 7.2 tonnes per person, only a fraction lower than the EU average of 7.5 tonnes. The figure for the US is much higher - at 17.3 tonnes - though total Chinese carbon emissions are now about 80 per cent higher than those of America. The widening gap reflects the 9 per cent increase in China's emissions in 2011, driven mainly by coal use, compared with a 2 per cent fall in the US.Advertisement Total emissions in Europe and Japan also fell last year, by 3 per cent and 2 per cent respectively. But emissions rose across much of the developing world, including India, which saw a 6 per cent increase. As a result, OECD nations now account for only about a third of the global total. How on earth do some of the idiots advocating a carbon tax on Australia and allowing China's to rise - not see this highlighted area as a problem???? China needs to be held accountable as well and that means they should NOT be allowed to grow their emissions and this destructive rate. Amazing how those who allegedly care for the world environment have no problem with the world's worst polluter growing at a shocking rate and not even looking like reducing.... 80% higher emissions than the next worst polluter.....

Simple answer:
"Its inherently racist to say that a chinese man cannot polute more than a european or Australian"

Hiding behind country boundaries is soft as.

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

If you are so interested in facts then show us how much humans contribute to the overall carbon emissions - in percentage terms

Why percentage terms?
Does that look best?
5 minutes is .34% of a day
How many humans die from being held underwater for 5 minutes - 100%

But whatever.

On another matter, I apologize for my outburst earlier in the week.
It was uncalled for.

Carbon trading is ideological and pure corruption and nonsense. :)

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 11:04am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:52am: If you are so interested in facts then show us how much humans contribute to the overall carbon emissions - in percentage terms Why percentage terms? Does that look best? 5 minutes is .34% of a day How many humans die from being held underwater for 5 minutes - 100% But whatever. On another matter, I apologize for my outburst earlier in the week. It was uncalled for.

Because then we understand how much we  influence climate change

We are being accused of causing climate change

Assuming human carbon emissions and carbon emissions from other sources are the same - then if we only contribute 0.0001% then stop human emissions will make no difference to climate change

On another matter - cheers

ENGARDE!!!

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 11:19am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 11:04am: Maqqa wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:52am: If you are so interested in facts then show us how much humans contribute to the overall carbon emissions - in percentage terms Why percentage terms? Does that look best? 5 minutes is .34% of a day How many humans die from being held underwater for 5 minutes - 100% But whatever. On another matter, I apologize for my outburst earlier in the week. It was uncalled for. Because then we understand how much we  influence climate change We are being accused of causing climate change Assuming human carbon emissions and carbon emissions from other sources are the same - then if we only contribute 0.0001% then stop human emissions will make no difference to climate change On another matter - cheers ENGARDE!!!

Causing or accelerating?

Does it matter?

If the natural atmosphere has a percentage of say 6% CO2 & then we through our activities increase that to 6.1%,we have caused an imbalance, whether the imbalance is .1% or 10% is of no consequence to the argument.

Been saying it for a while.

The science is in and world wide emissions are going up, up and up.

Dr Doolittle now tells us China and India don’t have to do anything until all their people pollute as much as us. ::)

And throws in the race card.

Truly pathetic.

FriYAY wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 11:48am:

Been saying it for a while. The science is in and world wide emissions are going up, up and up. Dr Doolittle now tells us China and India don’t have to do anything until all their people pollute as much as us. ::) And throws in the race card. Truly pathetic.

Wasnt me who brought up races.

I treat people the world over, equally.

What would be an interesting questions is:

What level of co2 per person emissions can the world sustain to stay in some goal (say 2 degrees of warming).  ?

If we can get an answer to that, then all countries can aim for that goal.

This is where carbon trading is very useful, because a large number of people in the world wont be at that number, and higher poluters can trade their emissions to them.

A bit egalitarian, and non-racists, I know, but just putting it out there.   Perhaps a long term goal...

;D

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 11:57am:

FriYAY wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 11:48am: Been saying it for a while. The science is in and world wide emissions are going up, up and up. Dr Doolittle now tells us China and India don’t have to do anything until all their people pollute as much as us. ::) And throws in the race card. Truly pathetic. Wasnt me who brought up races. I treat people the world over, equally.

No you didn't, you brought up racism....in post #6.

Couldn't hardly wait, could ya. ;)

And here's me thinking it was about saving the planet from catistrophic climate change. ::)

Well, according to this article the sustainable global emissions is 3 tonnes per person per annum.

Ouch!

http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/crunching-carbon-price-numbers

FriYAY wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 11:57am: FriYAY wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 11:48am: Been saying it for a while. The science is in and world wide emissions are going up, up and up. Dr Doolittle now tells us China and India don’t have to do anything until all their people pollute as much as us. ::) And throws in the race card. Truly pathetic. Wasnt me who brought up races. I treat people the world over, equally. No you didn't, you brought up racism....in post #6.

Someone said something racist. I called them on it.  Should I have just ignored it ?

The stupidity of the co2 emissions by country argument is illustrated by the following...

If we are worried about Australia's standing as a countries total emission, the cheapest course of action is to disolve the commenweath, and elevate the states to country status.

If we are worried about the per-capita emissions in Australia, the cheapest course of action is to invade Indonesia, forming one combined country where our per-capita emissions would drop to china-like levels.


Madness.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

The stupidity of the co2 emissions by country argument is illustrated by the following... If we are worried about Australia's standing as a countries total emission, the cheapest course of action is to disolve the commenweath, and elevate the states to country status. If we are worried about the per-capita emissions in Australia, the cheapest course of action is to invade Indonesia, forming one combined country where our per-capita emissions would drop to china-like levels. Madness.

You wrote the crap  ::)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 7:59am: http://www.theage.com.au/world/chinese-footprint-grows-20120719-22cvh.html HE average Chinese person's carbon footprint is now almost on a par with the average European's, new figures show. China became the largest national emitter of carbon dioxide in 2006, though its emissions per person have always been lower than those in developed countries such as Europe's. But this week's report by the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency and the European Commission's Joint Research Centre show that per capita emissions in China increased by 9 per cent in 2011 to reach 7.2 tonnes per person, only a fraction lower than the EU average of 7.5 tonnes. The figure for the US is much higher - at 17.3 tonnes - though total Chinese carbon emissions are now about 80 per cent higher than those of America. The widening gap reflects the 9 per cent increase in China's emissions in 2011, driven mainly by coal use, compared with a 2 per cent fall in the US.Advertisement Total emissions in Europe and Japan also fell last year, by 3 per cent and 2 per cent respectively. But emissions rose across much of the developing world, including India, which saw a 6 per cent increase. As a result, OECD nations now account for only about a third of the global total. How on earth do some of the idiots advocating a carbon tax on Australia and allowing China's to rise - not see this highlighted area as a problem???? China needs to be held accountable as well and that means they should NOT be allowed to grow their emissions and this destructive rate. Amazing how those who allegedly care for the world environment have no problem with the world's worst polluter growing at a shocking rate and not even looking like reducing.... 80% higher emissions than the next worst polluter.....

co2 is different in China. It just doesnt have the same effect because they are on a different planet.

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:30pm:

co2 is different in China. It just doesnt have the same effect because they are on a different planet.

And here is evidence a, your honour, of why we call deniers "loons".    The prosecution rests.

FriYAY wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 12:18pm: The stupidity of the co2 emissions by country argument is illustrated by the following... If we are worried about Australia's standing as a countries total emission, the cheapest course of action is to disolve the commenweath, and elevate the states to country status. If we are worried about the per-capita emissions in Australia, the cheapest course of action is to invade Indonesia, forming one combined country where our per-capita emissions would drop to china-like levels. Madness. You wrote the crap

I wrote the what ?

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 12:22pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 12:18pm: The stupidity of the co2 emissions by country argument is illustrated by the following... If we are worried about Australia's standing as a countries total emission, the cheapest course of action is to disolve the commenweath, and elevate the states to country status. If we are worried about the per-capita emissions in Australia, the cheapest course of action is to invade Indonesia, forming one combined country where our per-capita emissions would drop to china-like levels. Madness. You wrote the crap  I wrote the what ?

Crap.

KEEP UP!!!!

::)

FriYAY wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 1:34pm: FriYAY wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 12:22pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 12:18pm: The stupidity of the co2 emissions by country argument is illustrated by the following... If we are worried about Australia's standing as a countries total emission, the cheapest course of action is to disolve the commenweath, and elevate the states to country status. If we are worried about the per-capita emissions in Australia, the cheapest course of action is to invade Indonesia, forming one combined country where our per-capita emissions would drop to china-like levels. Madness. You wrote the crap  I wrote the what ? Crap. KEEP UP!!!! ::)

The great thing about per-country measurements is that you can solve your per-country rankings by simply invading another country, and not doing a thing to lower your co2.

Depends what your goal is I guess.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 2:40pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 2:37pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 1:34pm: FriYAY wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 12:22pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 12:18pm: The stupidity of the co2 emissions by country argument is illustrated by the following... If we are worried about Australia's standing as a countries total emission, the cheapest course of action is to disolve the commenweath, and elevate the states to country status. If we are worried about the per-capita emissions in Australia, the cheapest course of action is to invade Indonesia, forming one combined country where our per-capita emissions would drop to china-like levels. Madness. You wrote the crap  I wrote the what ? Crap. KEEP UP!!!! ::) The great thing about per-country measurements is that you can solve your per-country rankings by simply invading another country, and not doing a thing to lower your co2. Depends what your goal is I guess.

Appears your goal is to write more crap.

::)

FriYAY wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 2:40pm: FriYAY wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 2:37pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 1:34pm: FriYAY wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 12:22pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20th, 2012 at 12:18pm: The stupidity of the co2 emissions by country argument is illustrated by the following... If we are worried about Australia's standing as a countries total emission, the cheapest course of action is to disolve the commenweath, and elevate the states to country status. If we are worried about the per-capita emissions in Australia, the cheapest course of action is to invade Indonesia, forming one combined country where our per-capita emissions would drop to china-like levels. Madness. You wrote the crap  I wrote the what ? Crap. KEEP UP!!!! ::) The great thing about per-country measurements is that you can solve your per-country rankings by simply invading another country, and not doing a thing to lower your co2. Depends what your goal is I guess. Appears your goal is to write more crap. ::)

My goal, in this thread, is to show the Andrei.Hicks of the world, the error of their ways.

Whats your goal ?