With another female executed for allegedly committing adultery, Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept under the institution of Multiculturalism?

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 6:24pm:

With another female executed for allegedly committing adultery, Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept under the institution of Multiculturalism?

No, we are a secular society not a theocracy.

It doesn't matter what color the people are here or how many cultures live here, the Government still has an obligation to defend this countries borders and protect its citizens from invasion.  You do the right thing because it is the right, the legal and compassionate thing to do, not because it is easy.  Protect Australia and its citizens.

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 6:24pm:

With another female executed for allegedly committing adultery, Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept under the institution of Multiculturalism?

Another post vaguely referencing some happening somewhere in the world with a one liner that tries to get some kind of reference to Australian politics with lots of arm waving. Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept from BlOoDy.StUpId?

http://intactnews.org/node/126/1315837969/australia-sees-rising-deman[url]d-female-genital-mutilation[url]


I hope not as this is bad enough.

Guildford wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 9:44pm:

http://intactnews.org/node/126/1315837969/australia-sees-rising-deman[url]d-female-genital-mutilation[url] I hope not as this is bad enough.

Its kind of sad such things are not spoken about, its like main stream media even the shock jocks as they call them don't even talk about such atrocities that multiculturalism bring in to our country.

Gist wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 9th, 2012 at 6:24pm: With another female executed for allegedly committing adultery, Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept under the institution of Multiculturalism? Another post vaguely referencing some happening somewhere in the world with a one liner that tries to get some kind of reference to Australian politics with lots of arm waving. Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept from BlOoDy.StUpId?

Gist,, your a low life and you know it.. your not Aussie, your just a turd with an internet connection and you know it.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 6:28pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 9th, 2012 at 6:24pm: With another female executed for allegedly committing adultery, Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept under the institution of Multiculturalism? No, we are a secular society not a theocracy.

Not something an increasing number of migrants share or wish to maintain. Islam has bloody borders everywhere. Once it gets to a critical mass it will push against secularism. There is no secularism or multiculturalism under Islam.

Soren wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 12:14am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 9th, 2012 at 6:28pm: BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 9th, 2012 at 6:24pm: With another female executed for allegedly committing adultery, Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept under the institution of Multiculturalism? No, we are a secular society not a theocracy. Not something an increasing number of migrants share or wish to maintain. Islam has bloody borders everywhere. Once it gets to a critical mass it will push against secularism. There is no secularism or multiculturalism under Islam.

Exactly. Do you think the Muselmen will enact a policy of interbreeding and the removal of non-Muslim children from their families?

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 10th, 2012 at 12:14am: Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 9th, 2012 at 6:28pm: BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 9th, 2012 at 6:24pm: With another female executed for allegedly committing adultery, Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept under the institution of Multiculturalism? No, we are a secular society not a theocracy. Not something an increasing number of migrants share or wish to maintain. Islam has bloody borders everywhere. Once it gets to a critical mass it will push against secularism. There is no secularism or multiculturalism under Islam. Exactly. Do you think the Muselmen will enact a policy of interbreeding and the removal of non-Muslim children from their families?

They are doing it already where islam is dominant. A non-muslim mother will never have custody of the kiddies while Daddy Big Beard and his family are around. 
Or try finding a Jewish plumber in Mecca on Sunday. Saturday? Don't even think about it.
They have all been removed.

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 6:24pm:

With another female executed for allegedly committing adultery, Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept under the institution of Multiculturalism?

What you see is the richness of Islam. My wife, Muhammed, beats me regularly but as she lays into me with the ironing cord she tells me she loves me. She quotes sacred text from the holy Qur'an and that helps to ease the pain.

Islam is the light and the path.

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With another female executed for allegedly committing adultery, Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept under the institution of Multiculturalism?

Did the execution occur in a multicultural society?

What are we being forced to accept?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 3:55pm:

Quote: With another female executed for allegedly committing adultery, Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept under the institution of Multiculturalism? Did the execution occur in a multicultural society? What are we being forced to accept?

Taliban sympathisers, under the guise of "he didn't pull the trigger, he just agrees with the mindset and that's freedom, innit?"



You would accept every last Islamic fascist as long as they don't actually kill anyone here. Agitating, in word and deed,  against everything that makes this country this country is OK with multiculturalist because they pretend that the very idea of 'multiculturalism' does not depend on a liberal, democratic culture. It does. There is no multiculturalism anywhere but in liberal democracies.

Any aspect of multiculturalism that is hostile to or undermines the host culture, liberal democracy, is cancerous. Islam is hostile to and does undermine liberal democracy. It is cancerous in a liberal democratic context - it will either kill the host or it has to be rendered impotent.

That execution took place in a country where that kind of stuff happens If it were to happen in australia ppl would be tried and imprisoned as the criminals they would be. In some countries they arent criminals though so no consequences.

It has nothing to do with multiculturalism anyway.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:13am:

That execution took place in a country where that kind of stuff happens If it were to happen in australia ppl would be tried and imprisoned as the criminals they would be. In some countries they arent criminals though so no consequences. It has nothing to do with multiculturalism anyway. SOB

It has everything to do with multiculturalism:

The founder of an upstate New York TV station aimed at countering Muslim stereotypes has been arrested on suspicion of killing his wife, who was beheaded, authorities said.

Is the guy insane or Muslim?

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 8:07am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 6:13am: That execution took place in a country where that kind of stuff happens If it were to happen in australia ppl would be tried and imprisoned as the criminals they would be. In some countries they arent criminals though so no consequences. It has nothing to do with multiculturalism anyway. SOB It has everything to do with multiculturalism: The founder of an upstate New York TV station aimed at countering Muslim stereotypes has been arrested on suspicion of killing his wife, who was beheaded, authorities said. Is the guy insane or Muslim?

The exception. A criminal. Dealt with the same way non-muslim  criminals are dealt with.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 8:19am:

Soren wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 8:07am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 6:13am: That execution took place in a country where that kind of stuff happens If it were to happen in australia ppl would be tried and imprisoned as the criminals they would be. In some countries they arent criminals though so no consequences. It has nothing to do with multiculturalism anyway. SOB It has everything to do with multiculturalism: The founder of an upstate New York TV station aimed at countering Muslim stereotypes has been arrested on suspicion of killing his wife, who was beheaded, authorities said. Is the guy insane or Muslim? The exception. A criminal. Dealt with the same way non-muslim  criminals are dealt with. SOB

A non-muslim doing that sort of thing is either a mad dog or insane.

A Muslim doing that is doing the Muslim thing.

You can see that from the endless examples from the 'Muslim lands' and from the examples of honour killings in the West. That's what we are importing. When the father and the brother murder the daughters for being 'too Westernised', they do not plead insanity. They plead Islam.


Afghan couple killed three teenage daughters in honour killing  In Canada. This year.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 8:19am:

The exception. A criminal. Dealt with the same way non-muslim  criminals are dealt with. SOB

How often do you hear of non-muslims honour killing their family members?

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 8:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 8:19am: The exception. A criminal. Dealt with the same way non-muslim  criminals are dealt with. SOB How often do you hear of non-muslims honour killing their family members?

Religious nuts always blame their religion when they do stuff like that. And ppl that do things like that are nearly always religious (i dunno about ivan milat). Obviously ALL the muslims in australia dont do that stuff. He is obviously unhinged and blames it on his religion.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 9:02am:

Soren wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 8:57am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 8:19am: The exception. A criminal. Dealt with the same way non-muslim  criminals are dealt with. SOB How often do you hear of non-muslims honour killing their family members? Religious nuts always blame their religion when they do stuff like that. And ppl that do things like that are nearly always religious (i dunno about ivan milat). Obviously ALL the muslims in australia dont do that stuff. He is obviously unhinged and blames it on his religion. SOB

But they are doing it in their on country as well as here. It's not unhinged to them, it's traditional.

And not all Muslims have to do it. 'Kill a chicken and let the monkeys watch'.

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 9:13am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 9:02am: Soren wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 8:57am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 8:19am: The exception. A criminal. Dealt with the same way non-muslim  criminals are dealt with. SOB How often do you hear of non-muslims honour killing their family members? Religious nuts always blame their religion when they do stuff like that. And ppl that do things like that are nearly always religious (i dunno about ivan milat). Obviously ALL the muslims in australia dont do that stuff. He is obviously unhinged and blames it on his religion. SOB But they are doing it in their on country as well as here. It's not unhinged to them, it's traditional. And not all Muslims have to do it. 'Kill a chicken and let the monkeys watch'.

Sure they do it in their own country its acceptable behaviour there (depending which country that is). Here though they dont do it except for the one off psychopath.

SOB

seems to be a bit more than "one-off".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg8wd6KilOs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cfIYJK_oUE

Never mind eh?  It's probably just that the french and norwegians are "racist".

Yes, we are all racists in the west. Plus we are making Muslims sick. SOB is saying that doing beheading over there is accepted, doing it here is pathological. So we make these Muslims psychopaths

Mebbe we should stop letting them in because  of the risk of their becoming psychopaths. Stop Muslim immigration as a matter of promoting Muslim mental health. A medical aid measure!!

"You are not allowed in, Hassan, for your own good!"

YAY!!!

Soren wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 9:52pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 11th, 2012 at 3:55pm: Quote: With another female executed for allegedly committing adultery, Is this the type of thing we are to be forced to accept under the institution of Multiculturalism? Did the execution occur in a multicultural society? What are we being forced to accept? Taliban sympathisers, under the guise of "he didn't pull the trigger, he just agrees with the mindset and that's freedom, innit?"

You're not making sense. Are you calling me a Talibani sympathiser?



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You would accept every last Islamic fascist as long as they don't actually kill anyone here.

I love it when you tell me what I would do. You're wrong every single time.

I am completely anti-extremist. I'd love to see all extreme Muslims that advocate violence deported to some shithole in a remote corner of the world, right along with the right wing rabid extremists like you who advocate violence against innocent people. Because you are certainly no better. As far as I'm concerned, you can all bugger off together.


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Agitating, in word and deed,  against everything that makes this country this country is OK with multiculturalist because they pretend that the very idea of 'multiculturalism' does not depend on a liberal, democratic culture.

Of course multiculturalism depends on a liberal democratic culture if it is to have any measure of success.




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Islam is hostile to and does undermine liberal democracy. It is cancerous in a liberal democratic context - it will either kill the host or it has to be rendered impotent.

Moderate Islam does not undermine liberal democratic principles. You see only the extreme because you are ruled by fear, which in turn makes you an extremist. You are just as much a threat to democracy - you would have the rights of certain members of the community taken away because of personal intolerance.

How are you different from any other extremist?

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I am completely anti-extremist. I'd love to see all extreme Muslims that advocate violence deported to some shithole in a remote corner of the world, right along with the right wing rabid extremists like you who advocate violence against innocent people. Because you are certainly no better. As far as I'm concerned, you can all bugger off together.

Yup. Eloquently said. I agree.

SOB

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

How are you different from any other extremist?

How many people in the West are under police protection because they have 'offended Islam'?

And how many Muslims are under police protection in the West because they offended liberal democracy?



So you can bugger off with your stupid diatribe. It's stupid.

I think you've touched a nerve there, Annie. Stupid.

I don't think the old boy likes intercourse. He thinks it's stupid. Would you prefer a banana, dear chap?

How about a caliphate?

Why does Islam escape the Foucauldian critique, Karnal?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 3:40pm:

Why does Islam escape the Foucauldian critique, Karnal?

What's that, dear chap?

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You're not making sense. Are you calling me a Talibani sympathiser?

I think he is calling Abu and Falah Taliban sympathisers.


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I am completely anti-extremist. I'd love to see all extreme Muslims that advocate violence deported to some shithole in a remote corner of the world

Does that include Abu and Falah, or are they mainstream Muslims?


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How are you different from any other extremist?

How are you different from any other extremist?

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 3:40pm: Why does Islam escape the Foucauldian critique, Karnal? What's that, dear chap?

Excellent. All is in order.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 3:17pm:

I think you've touched a nerve there, Annie. Stupid. I don't think the old boy likes intercourse. He thinks it's stupid. Would you prefer a banana, dear chap? How about a caliphate?

Do you think he thinks I'm stupid?




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Does that include Abu and Falah, or are they mainstream Muslims?

It certainly includes Falah, though I have told you before Abu is far less extreme. Both are goaded into reacting in certain ways and defending things that they might not necessarily personally believe are right.

Silly? Yes.



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How are you different from any other extremist?

Use what I said in the context of how it was said. I don't advocate violence against innocent people because they belong to a certain religion or race. I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim.

That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren.

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It certainly includes Falah, though I have told you before Abu is far less extreme. Both are goaded into reacting in certain ways and defending things that they might not necessarily personally believe are right.

From what I recall Falah has presented slightly less extreme political views. For example, Abu thinks it is OK to rape your wife or slave, whereas Falah thinks you should not have to because you already have their consent.


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Use what I said in the context of how it was said.

Are you trying to take it back? Was it a joke?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:03pm:

I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren.

You are being dishonest again.

I would wish to take away their democratic rights (ie jail them and then expel them) if they advocate in words and action the undermining of the free and democratic social order in the name of Islam.
Islamists are hostile towards liberal democracy. They won't tolerate it. They are using it to diminish it.
I don't see why we have to tolerate their intolerance.

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren. You are being dishonest again. I would wish to take away their democratic rights (ie jail them and then expel them) if they advocate in words and action the undermining of the free and democratic social order in the name of Islam. Islamists are hostile towards liberal democracy. They won't tolerate it. They are using it diminish it. I don't see why we have to tolarete their intolerance.

That is certainly not as extreme as Annie's views.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

I am completely anti-extremist. I'd love to see all extreme Muslims that advocate violence deported to some shithole in a remote corner of the world, right along with the right wing rabid extremists like you who advocate violence against innocent people. Because you are certainly no better. As far as I'm concerned, you can all bugger off together. How are you different from any other extremist?

Drawing the line at violence is not enough. Fascist white-anting with censorship and blasphemy laws and anti-free speech 'sensitivity' mongering can also topple a free society. And you are for all these soft fascists subversions.


Here's my daddy telling it like it is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlhxadPHt4s


Peace, if you want it.
If you don't, you can shove it up your camel's hump.

yeah annie isnt an extremist at all. i think she is just a contrarian who always sympathises and goes for the underdog.

abu and falah sure are assh0les though, but not as bad as that lestat prick. what happened tot hat guy?

JC Denton wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 2:46am:

yeah annie isnt an extremist at all. i think she is just a contrarian who always sympathises and goes for the underdog. abu and falah sure are assh0les though, but not as bad as that lestat prick. what happened tot hat guy?

They are just calling her an extremist because she showed them up for the bigots they are and they dont want to address it.

SOB

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 6:27pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 4:24pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 3:40pm: Why does Islam escape the Foucauldian critique, Karnal? What's that, dear chap? Excellent. All is in order.

Is there a Foucauldian critique? I'm not sure of one if there is.

I thought Foucault was just someone who wrote about things he wanted to write about. Foucault is not Freud or Marx. There's no model, no critique.

All is, as you say, in order.

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren. You are being dishonest again. I would wish to take away their democratic rights (ie jail them and then expel them) if they advocate in words and action the undermining of the free and democratic social order in the name of Islam. Islamists are hostile towards liberal democracy. They won't tolerate it. They are using it to diminish it. I don't see why we have to tolerate their intolerance.

I'd go one step further, old chap. I'd add old bores who want to undermine our marvellous free and democratic social order in the name of mediocrity.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:03pm:

I don't advocate violence against innocent people because they belong to a certain religion or race. I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim.

So why do you advocate violence against innocent people?

No one is innocent, Honky.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 11:02am:

No one is innocent, Honky.

Liar.  This article was written by a person named Innocent Chia.

http://www.duniamagazine.com/2011/03/my-name-is-innocent-whats-in-a-name/

... wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 10:25am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't advocate violence against innocent people because they belong to a certain religion or race. I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. So why do you advocate violence against innocent people?

Pedant.

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:55pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:53pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren. You are being dishonest again. I would wish to take away their democratic rights (ie jail them and then expel them) if they advocate in words and action the undermining of the free and democratic social order in the name of Islam. Islamists are hostile towards liberal democracy. They won't tolerate it. They are using it diminish it. I don't see why we have to tolarete their intolerance. That is certainly not as extreme as Annie's views.

What are my extreme views?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 11:39am:

... wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 10:25am: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't advocate violence against innocent people because they belong to a certain religion or race. I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. So why do you advocate violence against innocent people? Pedant.

Hoi! All the girls I check out are over 18.

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren. You are being dishonest again. I would wish to take away their democratic rights (ie jail them and then expel them) if they advocate in words and action the undermining of the free and democratic social order in the name of Islam. Islamists are hostile towards liberal democracy. They won't tolerate it. They are using it to diminish it. I don't see why we have to tolerate their intolerance.

Liar. You advocated the slaughter of innocent Iranians and Arabs.

Your moral high horse is a joke.

... wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:39am: ... wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 10:25am: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't advocate violence against innocent people because they belong to a certain religion or race. I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. So why do you advocate violence against innocent people? Pedant. Hoi! All the girls I check out are over 18.

Never put an exclamation mark next to an i when typing to a woman of my advanced age, Elvis. I thought you called me a ho for a second.

Anyway...you know what I originally meant, don't you?

JC Denton wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 2:46am:

yeah annie isnt an extremist at all. i think she is just a contrarian who always sympathises and goes for the underdog. abu and falah sure are assh0les though, but not as bad as that lestat prick. what happened tot hat guy?

You know me best.

I was gunna add a wink or a smiley, but didn't want you to think I was coming onto you.  I don't want to responsible for a hip fracture when you go weak at the knees.

No fear there, love. I had them both replaced years ago - metal on metal.

... wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 11:06am:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:02am: No one is innocent, Honky. Liar.  This article was written by a person named Innocent Chia. http://www.duniamagazine.com/2011/03/my-name-is-innocent-whats-in-a-name/

You've got me there, Honky. You have cunningly exposed my sinister, underhanded tactics, all in the name of appeasing the evil Muselman and establishing the global caliphate.

Yes, today we may live in the shadows, but tomorrow we will rule the world.

Allah Uakbar.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

... wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:06am: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:02am: No one is innocent, Honky. Liar.  This article was written by a person named Innocent Chia. http://www.duniamagazine.com/2011/03/my-name-is-innocent-whats-in-a-name/ You've got me there, Honky. You have cunningly exposed my sinister, underhanded tactics, all in the name of appeasing the evil Muselman and establishing the global caliphate. Yes, today we may live in the shadows, but tomorrow we will rule the world. Allah Uakbar.

NEVER!

You can kill me, but you can never kill the spirit of rock n rooooooooooooooooooooolll!!

... wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 12:02pm: ... wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:06am: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:02am: No one is innocent, Honky. Liar.  This article was written by a person named Innocent Chia. http://www.duniamagazine.com/2011/03/my-name-is-innocent-whats-in-a-name/ You've got me there, Honky. You have cunningly exposed my sinister, underhanded tactics, all in the name of appeasing the evil Muselman and establishing the global caliphate. Yes, today we may live in the shadows, but tomorrow we will rule the world. Allah Uakbar. NEVER! You can kill me, but you can never kill the spirit of rock n rooooooooooooooooooooolll!!

You join us in our crusade, friendly. We want to get rid of this rooolll and make the honky tonk musics free for all, hoi.

I'll have to think about it, because only fools rush in.

... wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

I'll have to think about it, because only fools rush in.

Fooollls is welcome also, friendly. It is best not to have thinkings. Insh'allah we must act on the instinct, no?

High number IQ. G. These peoples are number 1.

It's the g funk era funked out with a gangsta twist.

wad up, gs.

http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/spq/22/2/images/spq_22_2_200_fig1a.gif

dat be raciss yo.

... wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

dat be raciss yo.

Before you critique G, Honky, would you like to explain it?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 11:43am:

Soren wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:53pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren. You are being dishonest again. I would wish to take away their democratic rights (ie jail them and then expel them) if they advocate in words and action the undermining of the free and democratic social order in the name of Islam. Islamists are hostile towards liberal democracy. They won't tolerate it. They are using it to diminish it. I don't see why we have to tolerate their intolerance. Liar. You advocated the slaughter of innocent Iranians and Arabs. Your moral high horse is a joke.

If they want to be our enemies, we should deal with the as enemies not as friends whose grievances we haven't accommodated yet.

If they start hostilities, we should bomb them. Forget building  their country for them. They should build their own country. But if they'd rather be hostile to the West, and shelter terrorists who harm us, we should deal with them.

Look at the krauts. They needed to be told until they understood. Now they are great friends.

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/tonywheeler/Bomber%20Command%2001%20400.jpg

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 2:48pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:43am: Soren wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:53pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren. You are being dishonest again. I would wish to take away their democratic rights (ie jail them and then expel them) if they advocate in words and action the undermining of the free and democratic social order in the name of Islam. Islamists are hostile towards liberal democracy. They won't tolerate it. They are using it to diminish it. I don't see why we have to tolerate their intolerance. Liar. You advocated the slaughter of innocent Iranians and Arabs. Your moral high horse is a joke. If they want to be our enemies, we should deal with the as enemies not as friends whose grievances we haven't accommodated yet. If they start hostilities, we should bomb them. Forget building  their country for them. They should build their own country. But if they'd rather be hostile to the West, and shelter terrorists who harm us, we should deal with them.

Sorry, old boy - isn't that what the drones are for?

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 2:48pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:43am: Soren wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:53pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren. You are being dishonest again. I would wish to take away their democratic rights (ie jail them and then expel them) if they advocate in words and action the undermining of the free and democratic social order in the name of Islam. Islamists are hostile towards liberal democracy. They won't tolerate it. They are using it to diminish it. I don't see why we have to tolerate their intolerance. Liar. You advocated the slaughter of innocent Iranians and Arabs. Your moral high horse is a joke. If they want to be our enemies, we should deal with the as enemies not as friends whose grievances we haven't accommodated yet.

And if they want to be 'our' friend? What should 'we' do?




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If they start hostilities, we should bomb them. Forget building  their country for them. They should build their own country. But if they'd rather be hostile to the West, and shelter terrorists who harm us, we should deal with them.

If we start hostilities what should they do?

attack of the drones

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 2:48pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:43am: Soren wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:53pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren. You are being dishonest again. I would wish to take away their democratic rights (ie jail them and then expel them) if they advocate in words and action the undermining of the free and democratic social order in the name of Islam. Islamists are hostile towards liberal democracy. They won't tolerate it. They are using it to diminish it. I don't see why we have to tolerate their intolerance. Liar. You advocated the slaughter of innocent Iranians and Arabs. Your moral high horse is a joke. If they want to be our enemies, we should deal with the as enemies not as friends whose grievances we haven't accommodated yet. If they start hostilities, we should bomb them. Forget building  their country for them. They should build their own country. But if they'd rather be hostile to the West, and shelter terrorists who harm us, we should deal with them. Sorry, old boy - isn't that what the drones are for?

Drones are a bit pissy. Just playing smack-a-mole.
WWI lasted 4 years. WWII 6. Afghanistan 10 years and going, because of pissing about with drones and hearts and minds and building roads and all that nonsense.

It would have been better to carpet bomb them for 6 months and then tell them they can have whatever government they want but if they do something silly again, like shelter terrorists, the bombing will resume and will last for 12 months.
Repeat until desired consistency is achieved.
Let them have a bit of self-determination, I say. The burden of responsibility, innit. Hanging's too good for 'em.

And the same with the Persians and Pakis and all the rest.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

... wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 1:54pm: dat be raciss yo. Before you critique G, Honky, would you like to explain it?

Certianly sir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEsfatK_V-w

eazy e be pimpin, man

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 2:48pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:43am: Soren wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:53pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren. You are being dishonest again. I would wish to take away their democratic rights (ie jail them and then expel them) if they advocate in words and action the undermining of the free and democratic social order in the name of Islam. Islamists are hostile towards liberal democracy. They won't tolerate it. They are using it to diminish it. I don't see why we have to tolerate their intolerance. Liar. You advocated the slaughter of innocent Iranians and Arabs. Your moral high horse is a joke. If they want to be our enemies, we should deal with the as enemies not as friends whose grievances we haven't accommodated yet. And if they want to be 'our' friend? What should 'we' do? Quote: If they start hostilities, we should bomb them. Forget building  their country for them. They should build their own country. But if they'd rather be hostile to the West, and shelter terrorists who harm us, we should deal with them. If we start hostilities what should they do?

Before we get to your questions, can we deal with mine from yesterday?

How many people in the West are under police protection because they have 'offended Islam'?
And how many Muslims are under police protection in the West because they offended liberal democracy?

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 3:29pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 3:09pm: Soren wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 2:48pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:43am: Soren wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:53pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:03pm: I don't seek to take away their democratic rights specifically because they're Muslim. That's how I am different from Soren and people like him. That is how you are different from Soren. You are being dishonest again. I would wish to take away their democratic rights (ie jail them and then expel them) if they advocate in words and action the undermining of the free and democratic social order in the name of Islam. Islamists are hostile towards liberal democracy. They won't tolerate it. They are using it to diminish it. I don't see why we have to tolerate their intolerance. Liar. You advocated the slaughter of innocent Iranians and Arabs. Your moral high horse is a joke. If they want to be our enemies, we should deal with the as enemies not as friends whose grievances we haven't accommodated yet. If they start hostilities, we should bomb them. Forget building  their country for them. They should build their own country. But if they'd rather be hostile to the West, and shelter terrorists who harm us, we should deal with them. Sorry, old boy - isn't that what the drones are for? Drones are a bit pissy. Just playing smack-a-mole. WWI lasted 4 years. WWII 6. Afghanistan 10 years and going, because of pissing about with drones and hearts and minds and building roads and all that nonsense. It would have been better to carpet bomb them for 6 months and then tell them they can have whatever government they want but if they do something silly again, like shelter terrorists, the bombing will resume and will last for 12 months. Repeat until desired consistency is achieved. Let them have a bit of self-determination, I say. The burden of responsibility, innit. Hanging's too good for 'em. And the same with the Persians and Pakis and all the rest.

I'm not sure that you understand the purpose of all that p!ssing about, old boy.

You carpet bomb so you can put your men on the ground.

You win hearts and minds so that the local population doesn't try to kill your men on the ground.

You put your men on the ground to achieve your military objectives.

If you don't have an objective, forget all the above. You'll fail.

Common sense, innit.

Carpet bombing is designed to shock populations. You Germans invented it and called it blitzkrieg. The Americans had the opportunity to test the effect of sustained carpet bombing on the population of Vietnam. They found that contrary to prior military thinking, it does not destroy local morale or bring an enemy population around. Instead, populations adapt and look to their leaders for security and support.

Britain in WWII is the best example of this: "we will never surrender".

If your military objective is to counter insurgency, carpet bombing will not succeed. Terrorism? Forget about it. You'll only create more terrorists.

Basically, there is no tried and tested technique to erradicate insurgency and counter guerilla warfare. The US is the biggest military power the world has ever seen. They have the best and brightest strategists, the best bombs, the sharpest shooters and the smartest special forces. And they can't counter insurgency. What to do?

Go back to your objectives - what exactly are you trying to achieve?

The problem with your "solution" is that you are repeating the same behaviour and expecting different results. "Repeating until desired consistency is achieved" is typical old boy problem-solving. It's the sort of dulled-down, alcohol-related brain damaged thinking old boys are experts in. It has never worked, and it never will.

It ends, of course, in armageddon. Mutually Assured Destruction. Don't forget, we Pakis have the bomb. Why do you think Hilary Clinton is always so nice to us, p!ssing about with drones and hearts and minds and building roads and all that nonsense?

You love a nice military solution, old chap, but you have a lot to learn about the military - not to mention solutions.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

If we start hostilities what should they do?

Be nice to us!

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 4:19pm:

The problem with your "solution" is that you are repeating the same behaviour and expecting different results. "Repeating until desired consistency is achieved" is typical old boy problem-solving. It's the sort of dulled-down, alcohol-related brain damaged thinking old boys are experts in. It has never worked, and it never will.

Germany - unconditional surrender.
Japan - unconditional surrender.

Killing them until they know they have lost is the only way to win a war. Otherwise they think you are a chicken and will bide their time.


(Salvatore, you talk too much sh!t, out of both corners of your mouth. )

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 4:19pm: The problem with your "solution" is that you are repeating the same behaviour and expecting different results. "Repeating until desired consistency is achieved" is typical old boy problem-solving. It's the sort of dulled-down, alcohol-related brain damaged thinking old boys are experts in. It has never worked, and it never will. Germany - unconditional surrender. Japan - unconditional surrender. Killing them until they know they have lost is the only way to win a war. Otherwise they think you are a chicken and will bide their time. (Salvatore, you talk too much sh!t, out of both corners of your mouth. )

My dear fellow, Germany and Japan were centralised, imperial powers. They were hardly waging ragtag guerilla insurgencies. Apples and oranges, innit.

We know you enjoy the taste of cheese, old chap, but it might be best if you kept the faeces awy from your mouth. It's a matter of simple hygeine, what.

Best to leave the military theorizing to the experts, eh? Given your taste for certain delicacies, your skills are clearly in diplomacy.

Unconditional surrender. Very droll. I'll have to tell Sir Reggie that one.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13^th, 2012 at 10:52pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 8:03pm: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 4:19pm: The problem with your "solution" is that you are repeating the same behaviour and expecting different results. "Repeating until desired consistency is achieved" is typical old boy problem-solving. It's the sort of dulled-down, alcohol-related brain damaged thinking old boys are experts in. It has never worked, and it never will. Germany - unconditional surrender. Japan - unconditional surrender. Killing them until they know they have lost is the only way to win a war. Otherwise they think you are a chicken and will bide their time. (Salvatore, you talk too much sh!t, out of both corners of your mouth. ) My dear fellow, Germany and Japan were centralised, imperial powers. They were hardly waging ragtag guerilla insurgencies. Apples and oranges, innit. We know you enjoy the taste of cheese, old chap, but it might be best if you kept the faeces awy from your mouth. It's a matter of simple hygeine, what. Best to leave the military theorizing to the experts, eh? Given your taste for certain delicacies, your skills are clearly in diplomacy. Unconditional surrender. Very droll. I'll have to tell Sir Reggie that one.

Sure. You are so right. History is full of the glories of successful guerrilla tactics by ragtag resistance fighters.

The Australian Aborigines fought a very successful guerrilla war against the British invaders and sent them packing in a very short time. Same with the North and South American Indians - ragtag, strike like lightning and melt into thin air. Legendary. Now they have a very successful country, self-government, peace and harmony. And where are the dastardly invaders? Forgotten! In the dustbin of history.

Well, done Salvatore. As you always say, penitenziagite! Watch out for the draco who cometh in futurum to gnaw on your anima! La mort e supremos! You contemplata me apocalypsum, eh? La bas! Nous avon il diabolo! Ugly cum Salvatore, eh? My little brother! Penitenziagite!
Beautifully put, Salvatore. All languages and none.

Carry on.

Perhaps you would like to inform us all of a recent successful carpet-bombing, old chap.

Saddam? Ghadafi? Who?

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They are just calling her an extremist because she showed them up for the bigots they are and they dont want to address it.

So it had nothing to do with calling for the deportation of people who disagree with her?


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What are my extreme views?

Let's start with deporting people who who are intolerant of other people's intolerance, in the name of tolerance. You are such an extremist supporter of tolerance that you have become intolerant of both intolerance and the intolerance of intolerance.


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And how many Muslims are under police protection in the West because they offended liberal democracy?

Aren't their 19 of them in jail in Australia for terrorism? Do they count?


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It ends, of course, in armageddon. Mutually Assured Destruction.

Only if the two sides are equally matched, which is hardly the case now. The two world wars came a lot closer, but the goodies won then too.


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Perhaps you would like to inform us all of a recent successful carpet-bombing, old chap.

I think he is complaining that people don't do it.

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Let's start with deporting people who who are intolerant of other people's intolerance, in the name of tolerance. You are such an extremist supporter of tolerance that you have become intolerant of both intolerance and the intolerance of intolerance.

Where?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

I am completely anti-extremist. I'd love to see all extreme Muslims that advocate violence deported to some shithole in a remote corner of the world, right along with the right wing rabid extremists like you who advocate violence against innocent people. Because you are certainly no better. As far as I'm concerned, you can all bugger off together.

I asked you about this a few times already. The closest you have come to explaining it is demanding it be interpretted in context.

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 11:27am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 11:15am: I am completely anti-extremist. I'd love to see all extreme Muslims that advocate violence deported to some shithole in a remote corner of the world, right along with the right wing rabid extremists like you who advocate violence against innocent people. Because you are certainly no better. As far as I'm concerned, you can all bugger off together. I asked you about this a few times already. The closest you have come to explaining it is demanding it be interpretted in context.

This means that everyone who advocates the carpet bombing or slaughter of civilians is equally revolting and equally undeserving of any right to live freely in a liberal democracy.

If Muslim extremists who call for violence against civilians should be exported (fine by me), then so should other extremists who do the same.

How does that make me extreme?

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How does that make me extreme?

You are calling for a lot of people to be deported. You may not realise it, but that is an extremist position. You are extremely intolerant of people who are intolerant or intolerant of intolerance. You paint this as being an extremist support of the mainstream, but that is an oxymoron.

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 12:10pm:

Quote: How does that make me extreme? You are calling for a lot of people to be deported. You may not realise it, but that is an extremist position. You are extremely intolerant of people who are intolerant or intolerant of intolerance. You paint this as being an extremist support of the mainstream, but that is an oxymoron.

How do you know what is "mainstream"?

Nobody doing any polls has ever asked me what i think. How many others have never been asked?

SOB

I used statistics spot.

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 12:10pm:

Quote: How does that make me extreme? You are calling for a lot of people to be deported. You may not realise it, but that is an extremist position. You are extremely intolerant of people who are intolerant or intolerant of intolerance. You paint this as being an extremist support of the mainstream, but that is an oxymoron.

Yes. People like you give me the sh!ts.

But I'm not calling for the deportation of intolerant people. I am saying that we should deport people who advocate violence against innocent civilians.

Any clearer this time?

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

I used statistics spot.

a) you didnt present them
b ) Nobody doing any polls has ever asked me what i think. How many others have never been asked?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 12:27pm:

Nobody doing any polls has ever asked me what i think. How many others have never been asked? SOB

You are not involved - so it can't be happening.

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 12:27pm: Nobody doing any polls has ever asked me what i think. How many others have never been asked? SOB You are not involved - so it can't be happening.

Do you even know what we are talking about or did you just rush in because you saw the opportunity to be a dick to me as usual madam?

SOB

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 10:06am:

Perhaps you would like to inform us all of a recent successful carpet-bombing, old chap. Saddam? Ghadafi? Who?

The Ruhr. Dresden. Hiroshima. Nagasaki.

If you are prepared to keep killing them until they tap the floor - and they know that you are ruthless -, it works remarkably well.
If they know you are half-arsed about it, they will stick it out because they know you are not twice as determined as they are. Will to power, innit.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 4:09pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 4:04pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 12:27pm: Nobody doing any polls has ever asked me what i think. How many others have never been asked? SOB You are not involved - so it can't be happening. Do you even know what we are talking about or did you just rush in because you saw the opportunity to be a dick to me as usual madam? SOB

You have not been polled - the polls can't be right.

Don't kid yourself mother, you are not that complex. Au contraire.

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 4:15pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 4:09pm: Soren wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 4:04pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 12:27pm: Nobody doing any polls has ever asked me what i think. How many others have never been asked? SOB You are not involved - so it can't be happening. Do you even know what we are talking about or did you just rush in because you saw the opportunity to be a dick to me as usual madam? SOB You have not been polled - the polls can't be right. Don't kid yourself mother, you are not that complex. Au contraire.

My point - lil miss sorry - is that there arent any polls for what freediver was saying. I was being sarcastic. You need to look that up i expect lassie.

SOB

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I am saying that we should deport people who advocate violence against innocent civilians.

What if a Muslim thinks that no non-Muslims are innocent? What if the people you want to deport have not actually committed a crime, other than having the wrong opinion?


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Nobody doing any polls has ever asked me what i think. How many others have never been asked?

That's what confidence intervals are for.


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My point - lil miss sorry - is that there arent any polls for what freediver was saying.

Prove it.

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 4:21pm:

Quote: I am saying that we should deport people who advocate violence against innocent civilians. What if a Muslim thinks that no non-Muslims are innocent? What if the people you want to deport have not actually committed a crime, other than having the wrong opinion?

Off with their beards!!!

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 4:21pm:

Quote: I am saying that we should deport people who advocate violence against innocent civilians. What if a Muslim thinks that no non-Muslims are innocent? What if the people you want to deport have not actually committed a crime, other than having the wrong opinion? [quote]Nobody doing any polls has ever asked me what i think. How many others have never been asked?

That's what confidence intervals are for.


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My point - lil miss sorry - is that there arent any polls for what freediver was saying.

Prove it.[/quote]

Hahahahaha you prove it you made the claim you used statistics.

SOB

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:06am: Perhaps you would like to inform us all of a recent successful carpet-bombing, old chap. Saddam? Ghadafi? Who? The Ruhr. Dresden. Hiroshima. Nagasaki. If you are prepared to keep killing them until they tap the floor - and they know that you are ruthless -, it works remarkably well.

Remarkably well for what, old chap? What are you actually seeking to do?

You might like to learn from a few recent experiments obliterating the despicable Muselmann: Iraq, Chechnya, the siege of Sarajevo...

Sorry - are old boys allowed to learn, or are they compelled to repeat themselves indefinately?

With the exception of Iraq, the above were designed to teach the enemy how ruthless we are. But do you know? The enemy retaliated by showing us how ruthless he is. 

Your Muselmann, you see, loves being the enemy. Bombing doesn't stop him. Same with communists, the tinted races, the British.

But let's pretend a sustained 6 month bombing campaign achieves your objective of instilling fear and terror in the despicable Muselmann - enough to make him respect us and give up his sinister plans for the global caliphate.

What do you do with the ones who hide out in non-Muslim countries?

Your plan might work if you were fighting a state-led army that can unconditionally surrender. Terrorists, on the other hand, are quite happy to blow themselves up.

Also, they're cunning. They know how to build tunnels and wait for the Winter - when it's too foggy to bomb anything.

Still, it's nice to remember the good old days when we had the enemy on the hop. Things were so much simpler then, weren't they?

Nonsense.

We have taught the Muslims never to again make the mistake of underestimating the Jews.
The Muslims now are frightened to death of us.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

Nonsense. We have taught the Muslims never to again make the mistake of underestimating the Jews. The Muslims now are frightened to death of us.

Ah. Terrorism.

We'll have to start a war on that. Any takers?

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 5:46pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 5:21pm: Nonsense. We have taught the Muslims never to again make the mistake of underestimating the Jews. The Muslims now are frightened to death of us. Ah. Terrorism. We'll have to start a war on that. Any takers?

Check history.
Muslims started wars with us 4 times and 4 times we win.

You're right there, Avram.

Is it comfortable living in Israel?

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

You're right there, Avram. Is it comfortable living in Israel?

In Tel Aviv?
Yes it is.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 5:53pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 5:52pm: You're right there, Avram. Is it comfortable living in Israel? In Tel Aviv? Yes it is.

Good to see. What's real estate like over there? Are the prices high?

Real estate has dropped in price but the price is good overall.

I am going to buy a house in Haifa.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 6:01pm:

Real estate has dropped in price but the price is good overall. I am going to buy a house in Haifa.

Why dont you get one on west bank. Maybe it will get bulldozed.

SOB

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 6:01pm:

Real estate has dropped in price but the price is good overall. I am going to buy a house in Haifa.

Get yourself a semi. A Haifa house.

The west bank is traditionally home to orthodox settlers.
Not seculars like me and my girlfriend.
We will live in Haifa on my return next year.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 6:01pm: Real estate has dropped in price but the price is good overall. I am going to buy a house in Haifa. Get yourself a semi. A Haifa house.

A semi what?

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 6:12pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 6:10pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 6:01pm: Real estate has dropped in price but the price is good overall. I am going to buy a house in Haifa. Get yourself a semi. A Haifa house. A semi what?

Semi-attached. Semis are those houses you see in Sydney and Melbourne where two houses share a wall down the middle.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 6:01pm: Real estate has dropped in price but the price is good overall. I am going to buy a house in Haifa. Get yourself a semi. A Haifa house.

Hahahahahaha

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/109488310_b561979a2d.jpg

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 6:30pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 6:10pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 6:01pm: Real estate has dropped in price but the price is good overall. I am going to buy a house in Haifa. Get yourself a semi. A Haifa house. Hahahahahaha http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/109488310_b561979a2d.jpg SOB

Terrible!

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

Nonsense. We have taught the Muslims never to again make the mistake of underestimating the Jews. The Muslims now are frightened to death of us.

You got the death bit right, frightened perhaps not. If they were afraid of death they would not blow themselves up so eagerly.

freediver wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 6:46pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 5:21pm: Nonsense. We have taught the Muslims never to again make the mistake of underestimating the Jews. The Muslims now are frightened to death of us. You got the death bit right, frightened perhaps not. If they were afraid of death they would not blow themselves up so eagerly.

That's right. You don't want to encourage them. That's what the old boy wants to do with his carpet bombing.

[Every old boy deserves piles.]

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

You're right there, Avram. Is it comfortable living in Israel?

It's a damn sight more comfortable than living in Gaza or the West Bank or Lebanon or Jordan or Syria or Egypt or Libya or Yemen or Saudi or Tuerkey or Iraq or Afghanistan or Pakistan or Indonesia or Tajikistan or Kazakhstan or Turkmenistan or anywhere in the 'Muslim lands'.

Very true, dear chap. Or Brunei or KL or, I don't know, Dubai.

Fancy hosting the Postmodern Cities conference in a backwater like that.

Fancy even having a postmodern cities conference in the first place. Carpet bombing's too good for them - we should flatten the place.

Is that postmodern enough for you?

Hey, old boy, the Taliban like blowing up Buddhist statues. Why don't we have a go at the Burj Khalifa in Dubai?

It's supposed to be the world's tallest building - that'd be right. You know what they say about erecting big buildings, don't you.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 9:36pm:

Very true, dear chap. Or Brunei or KL or, I don't know, Dubai. Fancy hosting the Postmodern Cities conference in a backwater like that. Fancy even having a postmodern cities conference in the first place. Carpet bombing's too good for them - we should flatten the place. Is that postmodern enough for you?

Brunei, KL, Dubai- shitholes with glitter sprinkled on them. Dubai especially. What a smacking dump. It's a mecca for vulgar arseholes who think money is all. Postmodern? Not even postmodern, just gold plated sh!t. You like?

No surprise there.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 9:42pm:

Hey, old boy, the Taliban like blowing up Buddhist statues. Why don't we have a go at the Burj Khalifa in Dubai? It's supposed to be the world's tallest building - that'd be right. You know what they say about erecting big buildings, don't you.

Why don't you try something new - like making sense?  Give it a burl. It'll be a novel experience but see how you go.

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 10:06pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 9:36pm: Very true, dear chap. Or Brunei or KL or, I don't know, Dubai. Fancy hosting the Postmodern Cities conference in a backwater like that. Fancy even having a postmodern cities conference in the first place. Carpet bombing's too good for them - we should flatten the place. Is that postmodern enough for you? Brunei, KL, Dubai- shitholes with glitter sprinkled on them. Dubai especially. What a smacking dump. It's a mecca for vulgar arseholes who think money is all. Postmodern? Not even postmodern, just gold plated sh!t. You like? No surprise there.

Never been there - can't afford it.

You?

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 10:06pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 9:42pm: Hey, old boy, the Taliban like blowing up Buddhist statues. Why don't we have a go at the Burj Khalifa in Dubai? It's supposed to be the world's tallest building - that'd be right. You know what they say about erecting big buildings, don't you. Why don't you try something new - like making sense?  Give it a burl. It'll be a novel experience but see how you go.

Good heavens, dear chap. Given your enthusiasm for redevelopment, I thought you'd read Derrida on architecture.

Ah, so much to read, so little time...

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 10:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:06pm: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 9:36pm: Very true, dear chap. Or Brunei or KL or, I don't know, Dubai. Fancy hosting the Postmodern Cities conference in a backwater like that. Fancy even having a postmodern cities conference in the first place. Carpet bombing's too good for them - we should flatten the place. Is that postmodern enough for you? Brunei, KL, Dubai- shitholes with glitter sprinkled on them. Dubai especially. What a smacking dump. It's a mecca for vulgar arseholes who think money is all. Postmodern? Not even postmodern, just gold plated sh!t. You like? No surprise there. Never been there - can't afford it. You?

Somebody by the name of Karnal brought them us as examples of something or other. Do you know him? Do you know what point he wanted to make with them?

Me neither.

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 10:35pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:18pm: Soren wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:06pm: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 9:36pm: Very true, dear chap. Or Brunei or KL or, I don't know, Dubai. Fancy hosting the Postmodern Cities conference in a backwater like that. Fancy even having a postmodern cities conference in the first place. Carpet bombing's too good for them - we should flatten the place. Is that postmodern enough for you? Brunei, KL, Dubai- shitholes with glitter sprinkled on them. Dubai especially. What a smacking dump. It's a mecca for vulgar arseholes who think money is all. Postmodern? Not even postmodern, just gold plated sh!t. You like? No surprise there. Never been there - can't afford it. You? Somebody by the name of Karnal brought them us as examples of something or other. Do you know him? Do you know what point he wanted to make with them? Me neither.

Old chap - that's me!

Quite right. I do find it best to explore one's own culture's landmarks first, don't you?

Mind you, I hear you can do that in Dubai. In a day. The Eiffel Tower, London Bridge, Auschwitz.

Marvellous stuff.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 11:01pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:35pm: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:18pm: Soren wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:06pm: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 9:36pm: Very true, dear chap. Or Brunei or KL or, I don't know, Dubai. Fancy hosting the Postmodern Cities conference in a backwater like that. Fancy even having a postmodern cities conference in the first place. Carpet bombing's too good for them - we should flatten the place. Is that postmodern enough for you? Brunei, KL, Dubai- shitholes with glitter sprinkled on them. Dubai especially. What a smacking dump. It's a mecca for vulgar arseholes who think money is all. Postmodern? Not even postmodern, just gold plated sh!t. You like? No surprise there. Never been there - can't afford it. You? Somebody by the name of Karnal brought them us as examples of something or other. Do you know him? Do you know what point he wanted to make with them? Me neither. Old chap - that's me! Quite right. I do find it best to explore one's own culture's landmarks first, don't you? Mind you, I hear you can do that in Dubai. In a day. The Eiffel Tower, London Bridge, Auschwitz. Marvellous stuff.

"One's own culture"??  What the hell are you talking about? What is your culture that you call one's own?  What makes it your own? How do you own it, rather than disown it? What makes you belong to it? What makes it own you?

Your every utterance has been negative about whatever you call 'one's own culture': you have been telling us for years now what your culture isn't. The only thing you have ever affirmed about it that you think it should accommodate every crazy and outlandish attempt to destroy it - I'm sorry - to critique. That being a sign of its strength. Drink every poison to show how resilient you are.

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 11:16pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 11:01pm: Soren wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:35pm: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:18pm: Soren wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:06pm: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 9:36pm: Very true, dear chap. Or Brunei or KL or, I don't know, Dubai. Fancy hosting the Postmodern Cities conference in a backwater like that. Fancy even having a postmodern cities conference in the first place. Carpet bombing's too good for them - we should flatten the place. Is that postmodern enough for you? Brunei, KL, Dubai- shitholes with glitter sprinkled on them. Dubai especially. What a smacking dump. It's a mecca for vulgar arseholes who think money is all. Postmodern? Not even postmodern, just gold plated sh!t. You like? No surprise there. Never been there - can't afford it. You? Somebody by the name of Karnal brought them us as examples of something or other. Do you know him? Do you know what point he wanted to make with them? Me neither. Old chap - that's me! Quite right. I do find it best to explore one's own culture's landmarks first, don't you? Mind you, I hear you can do that in Dubai. In a day. The Eiffel Tower, London Bridge, Auschwitz. Marvellous stuff. "One's own culture"??  What the hell are you talking about? What is your culture that you call one's own?  What makes it your own? How do you own it, rather than disown it? What makes you belong to it? What makes it own you?

Marvellous questions, dear chap. I forgot the Leaning Tower of Piza, St Peter's Basilica, the Cheops Pyramid, the Taj Mahal, Sydney Opera House, and one of my own favourites (for sentimental reasons), the marvellous Bradford Polytechnic - if only!

Destroy it? Good heavens, no. We should carpet bomb the lot of it and start again. Why else would we need the replicas in Dubai?

Total war, old chap - that's the ticket. Common sense, innit.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 11:28pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 11:16pm: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 11:01pm: Soren wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:35pm: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:18pm: Soren wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:06pm: Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 9:36pm: Very true, dear chap. Or Brunei or KL or, I don't know, Dubai. Fancy hosting the Postmodern Cities conference in a backwater like that. Fancy even having a postmodern cities conference in the first place. Carpet bombing's too good for them - we should flatten the place. Is that postmodern enough for you? Brunei, KL, Dubai- shitholes with glitter sprinkled on them. Dubai especially. What a smacking dump. It's a mecca for vulgar arseholes who think money is all. Postmodern? Not even postmodern, just gold plated sh!t. You like? No surprise there. Never been there - can't afford it. You? Somebody by the name of Karnal brought them us as examples of something or other. Do you know him? Do you know what point he wanted to make with them? Me neither. Old chap - that's me! Quite right. I do find it best to explore one's own culture's landmarks first, don't you? Mind you, I hear you can do that in Dubai. In a day. The Eiffel Tower, London Bridge, Auschwitz. Marvellous stuff. "One's own culture"??  What the hell are you talking about? What is your culture that you call one's own?  What makes it your own? How do you own it, rather than disown it? What makes you belong to it? What makes it own you? Marvellous questions, dear chap. I forgot the Leaning Tower of Piza, St Peter's Basilica, the Cheops Pyramid, the Taj Mahal, Sydney Opera House, and one of my own favourites (for sentimental reasons), the marvellous Bradford Polytechnic - if only! Destroy it? Good heavens, no. We should carpet bomb the lot of it and start again. Why else would we need the replicas in Dubai? Total war, old chap - that's the ticket. Common sense, innit.

Ease up on the uppers, PB.

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 10:06pm:

Brunei, KL, Dubai- shitholes with glitter sprinkled on them.

Have you ever been to Malaysia, old chap?

I recently visited a sinister group of islands called the Perhenthians - just off the east coast of Malaysia near Kota Bharu.

On the surface, it looked beautiful. Pristine beaches, protected marine life, lazy locals - not a mosque or parapet to be seen. The Muslims there got about in Western dress, called you sir, acted all "eco-friendly" and generally pretended they weren't Muslims at all.

The bars played Bob Marley late into the night like any other South East Asian backpacker resort. They served beer and barbecued fish on the beach. Many of their women got about without headscarves - can you believe it? They were definately trying to hide their true identity.

There was clearly a conspiracy going on here. I'm not sure where they kept their weapons. They acted all welcoming for the sake of the tourists. How duplicitous. These people were trying to lure the Westerners in so they could perform some devious and sinister Moslem act upon them.

Yes, old boy, they were out to such the tourists dry.

Best to stay away from these awful Moslem places. Most unsafe. Don't believe a word the guidebooks say.

I, for one, will not be going back.