I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election.

Running from abbott's july 1st 2012 armageddon?


Say hey to the 14.8% of Kiwis that support the Greens

Got a job in a sock factory?

lol

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election.

Careful! Don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out.

Sayonara, sunshine....:-)

One more economic fatalist out the door...

good luck matty

Shame we have to lose good Australians to NZ only to get some dole bludging turds  in return from NZ.

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election.

Please stay there, this country has enough useless free loaders now the last thing we need is for you to come back.

nairbe wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:56pm:

matty wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 8:13pm: I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election. Please stay there, this country has enough useless free loaders now the last thing we need is for you to come back.

Somehow I dont think an Australian coming home, will out do the no-hoper bludgers than come here that are NZ'rs.

Isn't that bit drastic, Matty? I hate the government and carbon tax as well, but it's only a year until we get to kick them to the curb.  :)

If true, then all the best, and please do return soon. This country needs more young people with initiative.

Hey matty... just an idle question but... you're not getting turned on to sheep by any chance are you?

Not that there's anything wrong with that of course...  :-/

john_g wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 9:01pm:

Isn't that bit drastic, Matty? I hate the government and carbon tax as well, but it's only a year until we get to kick them to the curb.  :) If true, then all the best, and please do return soon. This country needs more young people with initiative.

Yeah, so bring as many left wing kiwis back, as you can.

Gist wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 9:07pm:

Hey matty... just an idle question but... you're not getting turned on to sheep by any chance are you? Not that there's anything wrong with that of course...  :-/

You obsessing about sheep again Gist. I have a right mind to call your gardian to get you back under control.

you want us to believe that the carbon tax is the only reason? liar ...new ewe's your looking to catch up with? .... if that was true you'd wait until Abbott had removed it before coming back ....

I'll be leaving Oz in about 7 years when I sell the house and business pocket 800K and live off the interest in Fiji.

By then Australia will be a poo fight full of unemployed and homeless a sjobs go offshore industry and business shut down, resulting in huindreds of thousands of ppl having no income.

We'll be like Mexico or Johanasburg within a decade, 20K jobs gone by cando campbell, massive job losses announced almost weekly.

Country is a car crash in progress.

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out  :)
Enjoy the next coup.

Compared to what will happen here, which will be every man for himself, remember what happened in New Orleans, well thats what we are facing here.

When everyone is out of work and haven't eaten for days, well I hope you can defend yourself and your wife and daughters???

History always repeats itslef, and I bet my last dollar that years ago no one would have predicted what happened in New Orleans would happen, or a City would end up like a Sth African toilet where even the most heinouis murders don't even make the news.

This country is selling itself out and it will become maybe not today or tomorrow but a very dangerous place to be, desperate ppl do desperate things and in time we will have hundreds of thousands of desperate ppl.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 9:29pm:

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out  :) Enjoy the next coup.

Nice to see such classy posts.

woof woof wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

Compared to what will happen here, which will be every man for himself, remember what happened in New Orleans, well thats what we are facing here. When everyone is out of work and haven't eaten for days, well I hope you can defend yourself and your wife and daughters??? History always repeats itslef, and I bet my last dollar that years ago no one would have predicted what happened in New Orleans would happen, or a City would end up like a Sth African toilet where even the most heinouis murders don't even make the news. This country is selling itself out and it will become maybe not today or tomorrow but a very dangerous place to be, desperate ppl do desperate things and in time we will have hundreds of thousands of desperate ppl.

More like Gillard and labor with the greens push, will turn Australia into Detroit in America

I suppose that is a good way to get rid of the boats.
http://www.time.com/time/interactive/0,31813,1925735,00.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjCObHJlkiU

Ppl who say it can't happen are kidding themselves. Look at what happened to entire cities during the GFC.

Were not that far away from anarchy when you really think about it.

john_g wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 9:29pm: Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out  :) Enjoy the next coup. Nice to see such classy posts.

Hey I'm a classy guy.
But seriously with the hyperbole that get sprouted here, this is even out there.
Retiring to Fiji?
Growing old there, with their health services?
Anything more serious than a simple fracture requires a flight to NZ.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 9:56pm:

john_g wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 9:37pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 9:29pm: Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out  :) Enjoy the next coup. Nice to see such classy posts. Hey I'm a classy guy. But seriously with the hyperbole that get sprouted here, this is even out there. Retiring to Fiji? Growing old there, with their health services? Anything more serious than a simple fracture requires a flight to NZ.

Generally, I think that you are a classy guy, smithy.

But who knows if the OP is right or not? I have no idea what you're talking about in the Fiji comment, however.

john_g wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 9:58pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 9:56pm: john_g wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 9:37pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 9:29pm: Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out  :) Enjoy the next coup. Nice to see such classy posts. Hey I'm a classy guy. But seriously with the hyperbole that get sprouted here, this is even out there. Retiring to Fiji? Growing old there, with their health services? Anything more serious than a simple fracture requires a flight to NZ. Generally, I think that you are a classy guy, smithy. But who knows if the OP is right or not? I have no idea what you're talking about in the Fiji comment, however.

LOL I'm on the iPhone which is a little difficult, when I clicked on the thread woofies post was at the top of the page and I thought she was the OP.
She's selling up and retiring to a palm tree whilst we all desend into anarchy.
Frankly I'm looking forward to a bit of pillaging, I've always wanted to be a pirate ;)

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election.

"Incomperent" eh?

MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 10:33pm:

matty wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 8:13pm: I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election. "Incomperent" eh?

Oh great, an fn spelling police. Can someone keep an ear out for the spelling police on the police radio. Give a heads up when we need to clean house.

I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.

Good luck, I hope it works out well for you.

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election.

No offense meant Matty, but that lot doesn't even qualify as a bad joke?

perceptions_now wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 11:39pm:

matty wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 8:13pm: I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election. No offense meant Matty, but that lot doesn't even qualify as a bad joke?

Pretty "incomperent", really.

Quote:

I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months.

..then you will raise the IQ of both nations  ;D

... sorry 'bout that one, I stole it from a NZ PM

But seriously..NZ? They have even bigger sticks up the clacker than we do!
I hope you remember to pack your "If you don't know me, don't 'Bro' me" t-shirt.

Fiji I can understand, but there are loads of places (almost all) around the world where the people are more natural and less striving toward their grave than here.
I'd suggest to research the net and travel to 10 or 20 destinations that you think you might like first.
Failing that, a week in NZ will surely make you appreciate Australia.

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election.

I bet you take the tax breaks etc though.

SOB

woof woof wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 9:27pm:

I'll be leaving Oz in about 7 years when I sell the house and business pocket 800K and live off the interest in Fiji. By then Australia will be a poo fight full of unemployed and homeless a sjobs go offshore industry and business shut down, resulting in huindreds of thousands of ppl having no income. We'll be like Mexico or Johanasburg within a decade, 20K jobs gone by cando campbell, massive job losses announced almost weekly. Country is a car crash in progress.

By then you wont get 800k for your house and business.

SOB

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:50pm:

Shame we have to lose good Australians to NZ only to get some dole bludging turds  in return from NZ.

"good"?  He's from Darwin.

The only good thing to come out of Darwin is the Stuart Highway.

With 55,000 kiwis migrating here every year because of NZ's poor economy it looks like Matty is cutting his nose off to spite his face.
Its a good thing he will still be able to use this forum so we can show him just how little effect the Carbon price has on businesses and day to day life in this country.
Will he still be able to study for his degree in NZ and continue his bid for a National Party seat?

Isnt NZ looking at implimenting a price on carbon as well?  ;D

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/blogs/the-dreyfus-files/nz-leads-the-way-with-a-carbon-price-20110415-1dh2x.html

All the kiwis i know that have migrated here was because of the earthquakes.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

All the kiwis i know that have migrated here was because of the earthquakes. SOB

He's also going to lose 27c in the dollar..a tad more than the carbon tax   ;D

adelcrow wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 7:55am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:52am: All the kiwis i know that have migrated here was because of the earthquakes. SOB He's also going to lose 27c in the dollar..a tad more than the carbon tax   ;D

Oh yeah - their GST is 17% or something isnt it?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 8:25am:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:55am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:52am: All the kiwis i know that have migrated here was because of the earthquakes. SOB He's also going to lose 27c in the dollar..a tad more than the carbon tax   ;D Oh yeah - their GST is 17% or something isnt it? SOB

And theres no jobs and its full of huge angry Maoris who would happily tear Matty a new bunghole.
Good luck Matty  :D

Matty, is this you?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-29/mentally-ill-patient-escapes-sydney-hospital/4101874

____ wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

Matty, is this you? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-29/mentally-ill-patient-escapes-sydney-hospital/4101874

Matty has never recovered from when he was a dancing boy to a group of Afghan warlords.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 5:30am:

matty wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 8:13pm: I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election. I bet you take the tax breaks etc though. SOB

The government is doubling the minimum tax threshold to about $18,000 if memory serves. That means anyone earning up to $17,999 pays no tax whatsoever on their earnings. How does the government intend to make up for this shortfall in taxation revenue? Yep, that's right - we'll have to pay for it later through a tax hike or even a new tax!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 8:58am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:30am: matty wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 8:13pm: I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election. I bet you take the tax breaks etc though. SOB The government is doubling the minimum tax threshold to about $18,000 if memory serves. That means anyone earning up to $17,999 pays no tax whatsoever on their earnings. How does the government intend to make up for this shortfall in taxation revenue? Yep, that's right - we'll have to pay for it later through a tax hike or even a new tax!

Considering the ALP has costed all their policies, and the details are out there for everyone to see (depite the fact that all you morons will just say its all a lie) ..and the libs haven't said how they'll pay for ANYTHING ...I think you've a cheek to ask that question .

Thank you to all of those who have expressed well -wishes, it means a lot to me. I too wish the best for you.

To all of those who haven't, I wish you well regardless.I will be back here in about a year, and my return will be thunderous.

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incompetent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election.

No you wont.....It will be paid by the biggest polluters!!!

::) ::) ::)

matty wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 4:35pm:

Thank you to all of those who have expressed well -wishes, it means a lot to me. I too wish the best for you. To all of those who haven't, I wish you well regardless.I will be back here in about a year, and my return will be thunderous.

Dont they have the internet in NZ?  ;D

adelcrow wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:

matty wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 4:35pm: Thank you to all of those who have expressed well -wishes, it means a lot to me. I too wish the best for you. To all of those who haven't, I wish you well regardless.I will be back here in about a year, and my return will be thunderous. Dont they have the internet in NZ?  ;D

Dont worry all his socks will prolly stay and keep us company

SOB

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 8:58am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:30am: matty wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 8:13pm: I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election. I bet you take the tax breaks etc though. SOB The government is doubling the minimum tax threshold to about $18,000 if memory serves. That means anyone earning up to $17,999 pays no tax whatsoever on their earnings. How does the government intend to make up for this shortfall in taxation revenue? Yep, that's right - we'll have to pay for it later through a tax hike or even a new tax!

The carbon tax is replacing the cuts..havent u been reading the news for the last one and a half years?

There's one more dot point for the reasons for column.

adelcrow wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 8:58am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:30am: matty wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 8:13pm: I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election. I bet you take the tax breaks etc though. SOB The government is doubling the minimum tax threshold to about $18,000 if memory serves. That means anyone earning up to $17,999 pays no tax whatsoever on their earnings. How does the government intend to make up for this shortfall in taxation revenue? Yep, that's right - we'll have to pay for it later through a tax hike or even a new tax! The carbon tax is replacing the cuts..havent u been reading the news for the last one and a half years?

It's hardly rocket surgery.

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election.

http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.9076255.5635/sticker,375x360.png

How stupid. Why not be proud of the fact that our government actually has the courage to stand up to climate change, and implement a great reform to counter it?

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:13am:

How stupid. Why not be proud of the fact that our government actually has the courage to stand up to climate change, and implement a great reform to counter it?

Yeah, let's see how that works out.

LOL

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:14am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:13am: How stupid. Why not be proud of the fact that our government actually has the courage to stand up to climate change, and implement a great reform to counter it? Yeah, let's see how that works out. LOL

What do you mean?

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:16am:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:14am: TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:13am: How stupid. Why not be proud of the fact that our government actually has the courage to stand up to climate change, and implement a great reform to counter it? Yeah, let's see how that works out. LOL What do you mean?

Nobody can do anything to counter climate change.

adelcrow wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 8:36am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 8:25am: adelcrow wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:55am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:52am: All the kiwis i know that have migrated here was because of the earthquakes. SOB He's also going to lose 27c in the dollar..a tad more than the carbon tax   ;D Oh yeah - their GST is 17% or something isnt it? SOB And theres no jobs and its full of huge angry Maoris who would happily tear Matty a new bunghole. Good luck Matty  :D

Excuse me, don't make fun of Matty's surgery.

Don't listen to a word these leftards say, Matty. These people are vile.

Anyway, I'm going too. Matty and I are quite happy to pay a higher GST, thank you. A GST is a progressive tax,  not a regressive tax on carbon, which is actually good for the environment.

Shane B is an economist in Canberra, so he should be able to tell you why. I agree with Woof Woof. This country is going down the drain.

Still, it will feel a lot better when Mr Abbott gets in and Matty and I can return. If we manage it well, it will be good publicity for the Liberal Party. It will be reminiscent, I think, of Imelda Marcos's much publicised return from exile in Palm Springs.

We might be able to pull in a few swinging voters.

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:30am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:16am: Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:14am: TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:13am: How stupid. Why not be proud of the fact that our government actually has the courage to stand up to climate change, and implement a great reform to counter it? Yeah, let's see how that works out. LOL What do you mean? Nobody can do anything to counter climate change.

Uncle Meat is denying the properties of CO2.

MOTR wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 10:40am:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:30am: TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:16am: Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:14am: TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:13am: How stupid. Why not be proud of the fact that our government actually has the courage to stand up to climate change, and implement a great reform to counter it? Yeah, let's see how that works out. LOL What do you mean? Nobody can do anything to counter climate change. Uncle Meat is denying the properties of CO2.

Yeah but be fair - Uncle Meat is a lawyer who likely gets confused by terms like CO2 or anything that involves test tubes and equations.

MOTR wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 10:40am:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:30am: TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:16am: Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:14am: TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:13am: How stupid. Why not be proud of the fact that our government actually has the courage to stand up to climate change, and implement a great reform to counter it? Yeah, let's see how that works out. LOL What do you mean? Nobody can do anything to counter climate change. Uncle Meat is denying the properties of CO2.

Absolutely not.  You aren't reading my posts properly.

Here, I'll give it to you again and maybe this time you'll understand exactly what I'm saying:

"Nobody can do anything to counter climate change."

In the process of saying climate changes and will continue to change, you are also implying anthropogenic released CO2 has no significant influence on the nature of that change.

Perhaps you could tell us why you think reducing atmospheric CO2 won't result in a cooler outcome than business as usual.

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 11:28am:

MOTR wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 10:40am: Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:30am: TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:16am: Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:14am: TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:13am: How stupid. Why not be proud of the fact that our government actually has the courage to stand up to climate change, and implement a great reform to counter it? Yeah, let's see how that works out. LOL What do you mean? Nobody can do anything to counter climate change. Uncle Meat is denying the properties of CO2. Absolutely not.  You aren't reading my posts properly. Here, I'll give it to you again and maybe this time you'll understand exactly what I'm saying: "Nobody can do anything to counter climate change."

Whether that is true or not is not the point as far as Im concerned. It is prudent to make the changes we need to move away from fossil fuels if not because of CO2 pollution then because we need to sort it out before we begin to run out and then have to make the changes in a panic.
Now is a good time with the rise of China and India, the massive pollution problems they are facing and the increasing costs of fossil fuels.
Disregarding CO2 pollution does not make solving our pollution and rising energy cost problems any less of an issue.

MOTR wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 11:36am:

In the process of saying climate changes and will continue to change, you are also implying anthropogenic released CO2 has no significant influence on the nature of that change. Perhaps you could tell us why you think reducing atmospheric CO2 won't result in a cooler outcome than business as usual.

Because its effect is minimal, high, low or neutral from man's use.

MOTR wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 11:36am:

In the process of saying climate changes and will continue to change, you are also implying anthropogenic released CO2 has no significant influence on the nature of that change. Perhaps you could tell us why you think reducing atmospheric CO2 won't result in a cooler outcome than business as usual.

Nope.  The onus is on the AGW disciples.  They're the ones doing all the fear mongering.

Humans don't cause climate change, and they have no ability to stop it from continuing. Hitherto, no reliable evidence has been presented that supports the AGW hypothesis.

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 11:45am:

Nope.  The onus is on the AGW disciples.  They're the ones doing all the fear mongering. Humans don't cause climate change, and they have no ability to stop it from continuing. Hitherto, no reliable evidence has been presented that supports the AGW hypothesis.

Great. Highly credible advice on a complex area of science from a lawyer.

Should I also take my car to a plumber to fix? Maybe he can give me medical advice while I'm there. It's all plumbing after all.

Gist wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 11:53am:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 11:45am: Nope.  The onus is on the AGW disciples.  They're the ones doing all the fear mongering. Humans don't cause climate change, and they have no ability to stop it from continuing. Hitherto, no reliable evidence has been presented that supports the AGW hypothesis. Great. Highly credible advice on a complex area of science from a lawyer. Should I also take my car to a plumber to fix? Maybe he can give me medical advice while I'm there. It's all plumbing after all.

Only if the computer models tell you to.

A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none.

Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government.

Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year.

Sending a sock overseas is hardly a huge symbolic gesture.

Gist wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 11:53am:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 11:45am: Nope.  The onus is on the AGW disciples.  They're the ones doing all the fear mongering. Humans don't cause climate change, and they have no ability to stop it from continuing. Hitherto, no reliable evidence has been presented that supports the AGW hypothesis. Great. Highly credible advice on a complex area of science from a lawyer. Should I also take my car to a plumber to fix? Maybe he can give me medical advice while I'm there. It's all plumbing after all.

Do what you wish.  If you believe in AGW you'll believe in anything.  So, yes, take your car to your plumber.  Just approach it with the same closed-mindedness as you do climate change and you might just get lucky.

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:15pm:

A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year.

He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes

The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'(

Gist wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 11:53am:

Great. Highly credible advice on a complex area of science from a lawyer.

Not advice.  Just stating facts.

I'll leave the bad advice up to the AGW disciples: they seem to think they know best.

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 11:58am:

Gist wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 11:53am: Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 11:45am: Nope.  The onus is on the AGW disciples.  They're the ones doing all the fear mongering. Humans don't cause climate change, and they have no ability to stop it from continuing. Hitherto, no reliable evidence has been presented that supports the AGW hypothesis. Great. Highly credible advice on a complex area of science from a lawyer. Should I also take my car to a plumber to fix? Maybe he can give me medical advice while I'm there. It's all plumbing after all. Only if the computer models tell you to.

And maybe cut the tyres in half and count the rings.

You could also take ice cores out of the radiator, on a cold morning.

adelcrow wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:15pm: A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year. He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'(

Yes, democracy being by far the biggest.

Apparently lots of pl are threatening to leave america and its "socialised obamacare" and go live in canada instead. Its just like going to NZ because of a tax in australia hahahahha.

SOB

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:53pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:26pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:15pm: A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year. He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'( Yes, democracy being by far the biggest.

Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy.
Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:42pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:53pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:26pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:15pm: A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year. He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'( Yes, democracy being by far the biggest. Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy. Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate.

A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states.

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:52pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:42pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:53pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:26pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:15pm: A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year. He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'( Yes, democracy being by far the biggest. Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy. Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate. A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states.

So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing?
Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where.
Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest.
Lib and lab are two peas in a pod.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:52pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:42pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:53pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:26pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:15pm: A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year. He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'( Yes, democracy being by far the biggest. Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy. Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate. A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states. So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing? Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where. Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest. Lib and lab are two peas in a pod.

And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens  ;D ;D ;D ;D

This is a major problem. We need more choices. The greens are just like the other 2. What has happened to australia?

SOB

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:25pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:00pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:52pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:42pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:53pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:26pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:15pm: A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year. He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'( Yes, democracy being by far the biggest. Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy. Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate. A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states. So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing? Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where. Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest. Lib and lab are two peas in a pod. And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens  ;D ;D ;D ;D

No.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:30pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:25pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:00pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:52pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:42pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:53pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:26pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:15pm: A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year. He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'( Yes, democracy being by far the biggest. Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy. Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate. A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states. So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing? Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where. Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest. Lib and lab are two peas in a pod. And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens  ;D ;D ;D ;D No.

Well what is your suggestion then.

My suggestion is to keep crushing the party that says 'there will be no ???? in a government I lead' only for them to do it to gain power.

Whats yours.

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:30pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:25pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:00pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:52pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:42pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:53pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:26pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:15pm: A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year. He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'( Yes, democracy being by far the biggest. Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy. Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate. A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states. So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing? Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where. Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest. Lib and lab are two peas in a pod. And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens  ;D ;D ;D ;D No. Well what is your suggestion then. My suggestion is to keep crushing the party that says 'there will be no ???? in a government I lead' only for them to do it to gain power. Whats yours.

All parties do that???
My suggestion is to alter the system under which the parties operate and to actually have a democracy where governments are governed by the people and not by the financial system.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:37pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:35pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:30pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:25pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:00pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:52pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:42pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:53pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:26pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:15pm: A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year. He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'( Yes, democracy being by far the biggest. Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy. Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate. A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states. So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing? Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where. Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest. Lib and lab are two peas in a pod. And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens  ;D ;D ;D ;D No. Well what is your suggestion then. My suggestion is to keep crushing the party that says 'there will be no ???? in a government I lead' only for them to do it to gain power. Whats yours. All parties do that??? My suggestion is to alter the system under which the parties operate and to actually have a democracy where governments are governed by the people and not by the financial system.

I can do my suggestion by not voting for the government who did the 'there will be no' thing and letting everyone I know not to vote for them.

How will you and others do your suggestion.

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:46pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:37pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:35pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:30pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:25pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:00pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:52pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:42pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:53pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:26pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:15pm: A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year. He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'( Yes, democracy being by far the biggest. Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy. Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate. A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states. So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing? Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where. Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest. Lib and lab are two peas in a pod. And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens  ;D ;D ;D ;D No. Well what is your suggestion then. My suggestion is to keep crushing the party that says 'there will be no ???? in a government I lead' only for them to do it to gain power. Whats yours. All parties do that??? My suggestion is to alter the system under which the parties operate and to actually have a democracy where governments are governed by the people and not by the financial system. I can do my suggestion by not voting for the government who did the 'there will be no' thing and letting everyone I know not to vote for them. How will you and others do your suggestion.

What by voting for no one?
My suggestion would take people like you to get off your high horse and except reality.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:48pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:46pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:37pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:35pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:30pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:25pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 2:00pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:52pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 1:42pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:53pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:26pm: john_g wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 12:15pm: A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none. Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government. Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year. He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty  :'( Yes, democracy being by far the biggest. Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy. Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate. A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states. So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing? Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where. Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest. Lib and lab are two peas in a pod. And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens  ;D ;D ;D ;D No. Well what is your suggestion then. My suggestion is to keep crushing the party that says 'there will be no ???? in a government I lead' only for them to do it to gain power. Whats yours. All parties do that??? My suggestion is to alter the system under which the parties operate and to actually have a democracy where governments are governed by the people and not by the financial system. I can do my suggestion by not voting for the government who did the 'there will be no' thing and letting everyone I know not to vote for them. How will you and others do your suggestion. What by voting for no one? My suggestion would take people like you to get off your high horse and except reality.

So you have no idea what it isyou want except to get people to see. That achieves nothing.

You want a different system but dont know what it is.

Quote:

So you have no idea what it isyou want except to get people to see. That achieves nothing. You want a different system but dont know what it is.

Clarify it for me tho, if you really believed that you wouldn't vote for anyone would you.

When did I say I did not know what it was?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:08pm:

Quote: So you have no idea what it isyou want except to get people to see. That achieves nothing. You want a different system but dont know what it is. Clarify it for me tho, if you really believed that you wouldn't vote for anyone would you. When did I say I did not know what it was?

Well if you cant define what it is at the end of the tunnel for what you said:


Quote:

"My suggestion is to alter the system under which the parties operate and to actually have a democracy where governments are governed by the people and not by the financial system."

Then you have no chance in hell of me following you to your destination. I thought that was the goal.

I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.

A bit of clean air won't hurt you?

Dnarever wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:23pm:

I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax. A bit of clean air won't hurt you?

The NZ govt supports a price on carbon so Matty should have researched it better  ;D

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months.

Good to see that you are making a positive contribution. Can you please take the right faction of the Liberal Party with you on the way out? Thanks.

falah wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:55pm:

matty wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 8:13pm: I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. Good to see that you are making a positive contribution. Can you please take the right faction of the Liberal Party with you on the way out? Thanks.

There's a left wing of the Liberal Party?

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 4:02pm:

falah wrote on Jul 1st, 2012 at 3:55pm: matty wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 8:13pm: I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. Good to see that you are making a positive contribution. Can you please take the right faction of the Liberal Party with you on the way out? Thanks. There's a left wing of the Liberal Party?

The moderates are a long way to the left of Abbotts hard line neo nationalists

MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jun 30^th, 2012 at 1:54am:

perceptions_now wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 11:39pm: matty wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 8:13pm: I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election. No offense meant Matty, but that lot doesn't even qualify as a bad joke? Pretty "incomperent", really.

adelcrow wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:48pm:

The NZ govt supports a price on carbon so Matty should have researched it better  ;D

Ahh so someone is awake!

Now you know why I called Matty up on his "incomperent" stance.

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.

Have you gone yet?

Frances wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 10:01pm:

matty wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 8:13pm: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax. Have you gone yet?

No, we're still here. Matty wanted me to check whether flights to New Zealand have a carbon tax. No one at Jetstar could tell me - they just said the taxes are included in the all-in fare price, but they don't break all the different taxes down.

I could have just told Matty it's carbon tax free, but he'd get really difficult if he listened to Alan and found out we'd paid the carbon tax. You've no idea how he can get sometimes.

I said we should just put it on expenses, but then he started carrying on about Craig Thomson and how he's above all that, and to cut a long story short, I'm going to have to pay for my own fare.

Can you believe it? I've got a good mind not to go, but that could be what he wants and I'll be damned if I'm going to let him go over there with all those cute Maoris and have a good time while I'm over here working on the campaign.

Does anyone know if they put a carbon tax on flights to New Zealand?

They've got a sale on now, so I need to get in quick.

are you insane?

I don't understand all this things about flying to New Zealand etc.

Is this Australian humor?

I wish.

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 12:11am:

No, we're still here. Matty wanted me to check whether flights to New Zealand have a carbon tax. No one at Jetstar could tell me

Maybe you should just take him down to Bondi, throw him in the water and say "New Zealand is that way"....

I thought NZ already had a carbon tax? $15 a tonne?

SOB

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election.

Well I wish i could afford to get out of here too.


is this all the diccussion theirs going to be on ytthe carbon tax.

fuel prices in qld went up sunday, funny for the the 4 days before sunday they dropped lower.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 4:44am:

I thought NZ already had a carbon tax? $15 a tonne? SOB

True, SOB, but Matty doesn't want to pay a tax "borne of a lying, barren woman" - I think he got that off Alan. He says he doesn't want to pay a tax that has Juliar as its mother.

It's complicated, but Matty feels dirty paying a Labor tax. He said he feels his social contract has been breeched. He doesn't want to be infected by "this sickness in the nation's body politic."

Matty, you see, is studying medical science, not law. Mind you, he's going to have to defer while we're in New Zealand.

Another thing to do.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2012 at 12:13am:

are you insane? I don't understand all this things about flying to New Zealand etc. Is this Australian humor?

I dont think so, its Matty.

Yes, all confirmed now. I'm leaving on Saturday. My parents own a home in NZ, so i'll be living there, and my father's given me a couple of hundred thousand. I'll be deferring my studies and just taking a break. I won't be posting here, giving politics a bit of a miss too. But I'll be back in a year's time with a vengewnce, and my return will be thunderous.

Wouldn't this be the best time to try out your Indonesian theory?  Indonesia doesn't even have an ets,unlike new Zealand, and I've offered to get you the boat ticket.  That offer still stands.

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 8:36pm:

Yes, all confirmed now. I'm leaving on Saturday. My parents own a home in NZ, so i'll be living there, and my father's given me a couple of hundred thousand. I'll be deferring my studies and just taking a break. I won't be posting here, giving politics a bit of a miss too. But I'll be back in a year's time with a vengewnce, and my return will be thunderous.

Matty, we won't need two hundred thousand if we just go with the boat option.

I know the carbon tax has raised transport prices, but let's save the money and go with the cheaper option.

wait wait...did you say a few hundred thousand dollars? Sounds to me like you're not a very good at budgeting and spending money given you need that much for less than a year.

Plus, I really think Indonesia is a better option; you won't need those few hundred thousand dollars as you'll get free health cover, free dental, free cigerettes, free PS2 and free TV!!  And a free house!

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 8:36pm:

Yes, all confirmed now. I'm leaving on Saturday. My parents own a home in NZ, so i'll be living there, and my father's given me a couple of hundred thousand. I'll be deferring my studies and just taking a break. I won't be posting here, giving politics a bit of a miss too. But I'll be back in a year's time with a vengewnce, and my return will be thunderous.

Good!
Bye!

Cents?
If its any more, your father may be in need, of a shrink?

Studies???

Gee, that's too bad?

Well, we look forward to that? Perhaps you can use the time off, to brush up on hitting the spell-check button?

My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business.

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:48pm:

My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business.

then why tell us? No one actually cared.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:49pm:

matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:48pm: My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business. then why tell us? No one actually cared.

Correct on both counts!

Because I was telling how I am leaving to NZ in a few days, and how I will source myself. 99 responses says that to the contrary of what you said, people do care.

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:48pm:

My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business.

Thats gotta help. Congrats. Happy brithday BTW

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:54pm:

matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:48pm: My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business. Thats gotta help. Congrats. Happy brithday BTW

Thank you, progs.

Woops, one too manzy zeros there. $20,000, not $200,000.

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:56pm:

Woops, one too manzy zeros there. $20,000, not $200,000.

Still, but dont take too many zero's off.

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:57pm:

matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:56pm: Woops, one too manzy zeros there. $20,000, not $200,000. Still, but dont take too many zero's off.

Sorry?

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:48pm:

My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business.

If this is true it probably explains more about you your beliefs and attitude than you realise.

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:54pm:

Because I was telling how I am leaving to NZ in a few days, and how I will source myself. 99 responses says that to the contrary of what you said, people do care.

As the saying goes, don't feed the troll.  So I'll just end my remarks by encouraging you to spend the money wisely and to see if you can set some aside to spend on learning how to count a bit better :)  99 responses! What a hoot! 

Don't get lost in the mountains; I want you back here safe and sound so I can continue laughing at your expense.  And remember that if you would ever like another change of scenary then my offer to pay for your boat ticket to Indonesia is always there.

Bon voyage our resident kid!  Enjoy your time :)

Dnarever wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:59pm:

matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:48pm: My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business. If this is true it probably explains more about you your beliefs and attitude than you realise.

It was a typo. It's only $20,000. I do get your drift, however, and very much disagree.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:59pm:

matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:54pm: Because I was telling how I am leaving to NZ in a few days, and how I will source myself. 99 responses says that to the contrary of what you said, people do care. As the saying goes, don't feed the troll.  So I'll just end my remarks by encouraging you to spend the money wisely and to see if you can set some aside to spend on learning how to count a bit better :)  99 responses! What a hoot!  Don't get lost in the mountains; I want you back here safe and sound so I can continue laughing at your expense.  And remember that if you would ever like another change of scenary then my offer to pay for your boat ticket to Indonesia is always there. Bon voyage our resident kid!  Enjoy your time :)

So making a typo by one figure, means that I cannot count? I'm sure that you've never done such before.

Thanks for the sentiments, though.

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 11:02pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:59pm: matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:54pm: Because I was telling how I am leaving to NZ in a few days, and how I will source myself. 99 responses says that to the contrary of what you said, people do care. As the saying goes, don't feed the troll.  So I'll just end my remarks by encouraging you to spend the money wisely and to see if you can set some aside to spend on learning how to count a bit better :)  99 responses! What a hoot!  Don't get lost in the mountains; I want you back here safe and sound so I can continue laughing at your expense.  And remember that if you would ever like another change of scenary then my offer to pay for your boat ticket to Indonesia is always there. Bon voyage our resident kid!  Enjoy your time :) So making a typo by one figure, means that I cannot count? I'm sure that you've never done such before. Thanks for the sentiments, though.

99 is close enough and $20000 is very cool.

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 11:05pm:

matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 11:02pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:59pm: matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:54pm: Because I was telling how I am leaving to NZ in a few days, and how I will source myself. 99 responses says that to the contrary of what you said, people do care. As the saying goes, don't feed the troll.  So I'll just end my remarks by encouraging you to spend the money wisely and to see if you can set some aside to spend on learning how to count a bit better :)  99 responses! What a hoot!  Don't get lost in the mountains; I want you back here safe and sound so I can continue laughing at your expense.  And remember that if you would ever like another change of scenary then my offer to pay for your boat ticket to Indonesia is always there. Bon voyage our resident kid!  Enjoy your time :) So making a typo by one figure, means that I cannot count? I'm sure that you've never done such before. Thanks for the sentiments, though. 99 is close enough and $20000 is very cool.

I meant the 99 responses before I made a response. I should have been clearer about that.

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 10:52pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:49pm: matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:48pm: My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business. then why tell us? No one actually cared. Correct on both counts!

Agreed.

In addition to the fact that no one cares, it has nothing to do with the carbon tax (which is what this topic is about).

Yesss.. we should leave women to the physics, war and stuff because that's what they reckon they're good at.

Can we take the share price now?  ;D

Amadd wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:33am:

Yesss.. we should leave women to the physics, war and stuff because that's what they reckon they're good at. Can we take the share price now?  ;D

Say what?

This place is hilarious after midnight ;D ;D ;D ;D

MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 1:56am:

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:52pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:49pm: matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:48pm: My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business. then why tell us? No one actually cared. Correct on both counts! Agreed. In addition to the fact that no one cares, it has nothing to do with the carbon tax (which is what this topic is about).

Actually sweety, it's about how I am leaving because of the carbon tax.

Haven't you gone yet? The carbon tax has been in for five days already.

matty wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 3:01am:

MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 1:56am: perceptions_now wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:52pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:49pm: matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:48pm: My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business. then why tell us? No one actually cared. Correct on both counts! Agreed. In addition to the fact that no one cares, it has nothing to do with the carbon tax (which is what this topic is about). Actually sweety, it's about how I am leaving because of the carbon tax.

More -
Credible
Reliable
Abundant
Paradoxes

How could it be a typo, Matty? You wrote this:


matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 8:36pm:

My parents own a home in NZ, so i'll be living there, and my father's given me a couple of hundred thousand.

Are you holding out on me?

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 9:07am:

matty wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 3:01am: MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 1:56am: perceptions_now wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:52pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:49pm: matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:48pm: My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business. then why tell us? No one actually cared. Correct on both counts! Agreed. In addition to the fact that no one cares, it has nothing to do with the carbon tax (which is what this topic is about). Actually sweety, it's about how I am leaving because of the carbon tax. More - Credible Reliable Abundant Paradoxes

Aint that the truth!


Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 9:23am:

How could it be a typo, Matty? You wrote this: matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 8:36pm: My parents own a home in NZ, so i'll be living there, and my father's given me a couple of hundred thousand.

Oh dear, Matty can't remember his lies. And now he's been caught out. Wonder if this is the 1st time for him lol?

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 11:00pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:59pm: matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:48pm: My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business. If this is true it probably explains more about you your beliefs and attitude than you realise. It was a typo. It's only $20,000. I do get your drift, however, and very much disagree.

So many typos, so many versions of the typos, so many typo versions of the versions of the typos. Where will this typo saga end?

I haven't lied. I have made typos though, which I freely admit.

matty wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

I haven't lied. I have made typos though, which I freely admit.

You calling this a typo?

" ... and my father's given me a couple of hundred thousand."

Surely not.

" ... and my father's given me a couple of hundred thousand."

But you meant to type:

" ... and my father's given me twenty thousand."


That's a rather large typo.

The hundreds part was the opposite of omission. I've actually made a few typos the last few days, which I rarely ever do, from fatigue, because I've been geting about 2 hours sleep on average.

matty wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:38pm:

The hundreds part was the opposite of omission. I've actually made a few typos the last few days, which I rarely ever do, from fatigue, because I've been geting about 2 hours sleep on average.

Ah, so you added "a couple of hundred" and forgot to type "twenty".

http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/d/3//d31b1_ORIG-cool_story_bro6.jpg

MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 11:00pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:59pm: matty wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:48pm: My father gave me $200,000 for my birthday, not that it's anybody's business. If this is true it probably explains more about you your beliefs and attitude than you realise. It was a typo. It's only $20,000. I do get your drift, however, and very much disagree. So many typos, so many versions of the typos, so many typo versions of the versions of the typos. Where will this typo saga end?

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

matty wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 4:29pm: I haven't lied. I have made typos though, which I freely admit. You calling this a typo? " ... and my father's given me a couple of hundred thousand." Surely not.

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:37pm:

" ... and my father's given me a couple of hundred thousand." But you meant to type: " ... and my father's given me twenty thousand." That's a rather large typo.

matty wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:38pm:

I've actually made a few typos the last few days, which I rarely ever do, from fatigue, because I've been geting about 2 hours sleep on average.

Yet another modified version of the earlier modified typo saga version! Who needs to subscribe to the Comedy Channel when the laughs are all in here lol?

Not that it matters, bit he's given me twenty thousand dollars. No more, no less. I've been posting less te last few days, from exhaustion, because I've been geting minimal sleep. I don't even know what I was thinkng last night, I was spaced out a lot of the time. I've been getting about 2 hours sleep for the last week or so, with a couple of nights none whatsoever. Why would I even bother lying about such a thing? The only lie that I've ever told on here was that I was once a member of the Greens, which I freely admit was a lie.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Matty, tell you what, I am prepared to buy you a 1 way ticket to NZ, but only because I'd be doing Australia a service ( our national IQ average would rise immediately ). Something tells me, our dole queue would fall immediately also lol!

That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni.

I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax.

matty wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax.

On 2nd thoughts, you're doing a wonderful job of  digging your way there. Need an extra shovel or 2?

MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:51pm:

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Matty, tell you what, I am prepared to buy you a 1 way ticket to NZ, but only because I'd be doing Australia a service ( our national IQ average would rise immediately ). Something tells me, our dole queue would fall immediately also lol!

MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

matty wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 4:56pm: That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax. On 2nd thoughts, you're doing a wonderful job of  digging your way there. Need an extra shovel or 2?

Deflection by defecation - Matty's new strategy in typo saga versioning lol!

matty wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax.

Was that a typo too?

"That's funny, because I am stacking shelves at Coles."

Just checking.   ;)

MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 4:51pm: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Matty, tell you what, I am prepared to buy you a 1 way ticket to NZ, but only because I'd be doing Australia a service ( our national IQ average would rise immediately ). Something tells me, our dole queue would fall immediately also lol! MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 5:00pm: matty wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 4:56pm: That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax. On 2nd thoughts, you're doing a wonderful job of  digging your way there. Need an extra shovel or 2? Deflection by defecation - Matty's new strategy in typo saga versioning lol!

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

matty wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 4:56pm: That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax. Was that a typo too? "That's funny, because I am stacking shelves at Coles." Just checking.   ;)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh dear lol! Just when the latest version of Matty's lie story was being imagined posted lol!

What is Palmerston going to do without you Matty?  Empty supermarket shelves, dirty streets, although Palmstain Centrelink can reduce staff by one as you will be NZs problem.  Hope Daddy's house isn't in Christchurch - then again maybe I do

matty wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax.

NZ has a carbon tax

http://www.newzealandtaxation.com/2012/07/nz-australia-to-synchronize-carbon-taxes/

lol

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

matty wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 4:56pm: That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax. NZ has a carbon tax http://www.newzealandtaxation.com/2012/07/nz-australia-to-synchronize-carbon-taxes/ lol SOB

Now that IS funny SOB!

Something tells me that Matty isn't going to bother coming back to Oz or Oz Pol after yet another hilarious outing session.

GO AWAY, PISS OFF AND STAY THERE. IF YOU ARE SPITTING THE DUMMY OVER SUCH A SMALL REFORM THAT IS ALREADY PROVING A NON-EVENT THEN YOU ARE NOT WANTED AS YOU ARE A SELFISH LOOSER. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 8:56pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 5:16pm: matty wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 4:56pm: That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax. NZ has a carbon tax http://www.newzealandtaxation.com/2012/07/nz-australia-to-synchronize-carbon-taxes/ lol SOB Now that IS funny SOB! Something tells me that Matty isn't going to bother coming back to Oz or Oz Pol after yet another hilarious outing session.

I have bigger balls than you, and can face up to critcism. NZ has an ETS, not a carbon tax.

And no, I am not on centre link and don't work at Coles stacking shelves.

nairbe wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 8:59pm:

GO AWAY, PISS OFF AND STAY THERE. IF YOU ARE SPITTING THE DUMMY OVER SUCH A SMALL REFORM THAT IS ALREADY PROVING A NON-EVENT THEN YOU ARE NOT WANTED AS YOU ARE A SELFISH LOOSER. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

How am I selfish? And it's not a reform.

matty wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 9:16pm:

I have bigger balls than you, and can face up to critcism. NZ has an ETS, not a carbon tax. And no, I am not on centre link and don't work at Coles stacking shelves.

Nooo... you have no balls. Or dick for that matter. Gender reassignment, remember? That means you are officially dickless.

This ridiculous topic (just like its author) is done and dusted.

nairbe wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 8:59pm:

GO AWAY, PISS OFF AND STAY THERE. IF YOU ARE SPITTING THE DUMMY OVER SUCH A SMALL REFORM THAT IS ALREADY PROVING A NON-EVENT THEN YOU ARE NOT WANTED AS YOU ARE A SELFISH LOOSER. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Speak up! They can't hear you in NZ.

matty wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 9:16pm:

MissFixItOrElse wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 8:56pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 5:16pm: matty wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 4:56pm: That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax. NZ has a carbon tax http://www.newzealandtaxation.com/2012/07/nz-australia-to-synchronize-carbon-taxes/ lol SOB Now that IS funny SOB! Something tells me that Matty isn't going to bother coming back to Oz or Oz Pol after yet another hilarious outing session. I have bigger balls than you, and can face up to critcism. NZ has an ETS, not a carbon tax. And no, I am not on centre link and don't work at Coles stacking shelves.

SYNCHRONISED WITH AUSTRALIA'S CARBON TAX.

Hahahha it doesnt matter what you call it

SOB

You Bunch of Ignorant Bastards and Bitchs.

We all know this carbon is is only going to cause more distress. and we all know that these mining maggots won;t pay their carbon tax, that price will be passed on to every customer that buys anything from that company or any other company associated with that mining company.

Its government revenue raising to regain a supplus that was wasted by this government in scheames and programs that only helped the building industry, unnessessay Julia halls built at schools etc

warrigal wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 7:55am:

You Bunch of Ignorant Bastards and Bitchs. We all know this carbon is is only going to cause more distress. and we all know that these mining maggots won;t pay their carbon tax, that price will be passed on to every customer that buys anything from that company or any other company associated with that mining company. Its government revenue raising to regain a surplus that was wasted by this government in schemes and programs that only helped the building industry, unnecessary Julia halls built at schools etc

Without stimulus spending there would have been much higher unemployment and a further loss of revenue due to slowed growth and lack of investment.....The Government supported the economy while the Private sector struggled to survive the down turn....You ignorance is not surprising as you have no idea do you???

::) ::) ::)

so priceing people out of society how is that stimulous.

economic stimulus packages, well a lot of us didn't see the $900 hand out for the GFC and as for there cabon tax reimbushment handout now given to pensioners, the unemployed, and soon workers, well $250 at the maximum rate is useless.

if mine has been paid well it hasn't benifited me because its already gone.

warrigal wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 8:23am:

so priceing people out of society how is that stimulous. economic stimulus packages, well a lot of us didn't see the $900 hand out for the GFC and as for there cabon tax reimbushment handout now given to pensioners, the unemployed, and soon workers, well $250 at the maximum rate is useless. if mine has been paid well it hasn't benifited me because its already gone.

Your the idiot if you waste it or are you too young to get pay, we still in kindy. The ETS is a none event and will be the big fizzer that makes Abbott look the idiot he is. Has Whyalla closed yet, has mining investment collapsed, the power generators have all closed their doors and the coal industry had been shut down, yes???

Get a life, better still get a job and stop being so gullible.

warrigal wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 8:23am:

so priceing people out of society how is that stimulous. economic stimulus packages, well a lot of us didn't see the $900 hand out for the GFC and as for there cabon tax reimbushment handout now given to pensioners, the unemployed, and soon workers, well $250 at the maximum rate is useless. if mine has been paid well it hasn't benifited me because its already gone.

Gillard and Labor have GONE........ 22%. It is hard to find the 22 in 100 that have anything good to say to her!!

I wonder who on here is paid by the Greens/Labor per post to be their hack!!!

matty wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:38pm:

The hundreds part was the opposite of omission. I've actually made a few typos the last few days, which I rarely ever do, from fatigue, because I've been geting about 2 hours sleep on average.

Matty! Who have you been sleeping with?

You tell me now. And I don't want any typos.

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I won't be paying for this undemocratic, dictatorial carbon tax, introduced by this pathetic and incomperent shambolic government. I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months. I will come back in time before the next election.

Mind your lying ass on the door as you leave,fool. ::)

matty wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax.

If I can just clarify Matty's position here - when Matty says "your" carbon tax, he is referring to all Australians, including himself. Matty did not mean to distance himself from his Australian citizenship, or indeed, his love for Australia, which is profound.

While Matty understands that removing the carbon tax will be a challenge for the incoming government, he believes that it will be possible, in line with Coalition policy. Matty is currently studying medical science - he is not a constitutional lawyer. But he doesn't rule out a series of double dissolution elections if a Liberal majority is not reached in the senate. Obviously, repealling the carbon tax will take a number of years if Mr Abbott decides to go with this policy after the next election.

As an election has not been called, Mr Abbott is under no obligation to explain his alternative policies. As opposition leader, his job is to obstruct and oppose the government. Mr Abbott is not required to explain himself or solve the current government's problems for them.

Matty supports Mr Abbott 100%.

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 1:43pm:

matty wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 4:56pm: That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax. If I can just clarify Matty's position here - when Matty says "your" carbon tax, he is referring to all Australians, including himself. Matty did not mean to distance himself from his Australian citizenship, or indeed, his love for Australia, which is profound. While Matty understands that removing the carbon tax will be a challenge for the incoming government, he believes that it will be possible, in line with Coalition policy. Matty is currently studying medical science - he is not a constitutional lawyer. But he doesn't rule out a series of double dissolution elections if a Liberal majority is not reached in the senate. Obviously, repealling the carbon tax will take a number of years if Mr Abbott decides to go with this policy after the next election. As an election has not been called, Mr Abbott is under no obligation to explain his alternative policies. As opposition leader, his job is to obstruct and oppose the government. Mr Abbott is not required to explain himself or solve the current government's problems for them. Matty supports Mr Abbott 100%.

Does Matty know the Kiwis have had a price on carbon for quite awhile?
I'd hate for him to get any nasty surprises

No, he wasn't aware of that, Adelcrow, but that's not the point.

adelcrow wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:19pm:

Does Matty know the Kiwis have had a price on carbon for quite awhile? I'd hate for him to get any nasty surprises

He knows, but he dismisses it by saying "NZ has an ETS, not a carbon tax."

Not sure if that's a typo or not.

adelcrow wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:19pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 1:43pm: matty wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 4:56pm: That's funny, because I am doing medical science at uni. I'm not going back into it, I have already explained myself. I am leaving, I'm glad, good luck with your carbon tax. If I can just clarify Matty's position here - when Matty says "your" carbon tax, he is referring to all Australians, including himself. Matty did not mean to distance himself from his Australian citizenship, or indeed, his love for Australia, which is profound. While Matty understands that removing the carbon tax will be a challenge for the incoming government, he believes that it will be possible, in line with Coalition policy. Matty is currently studying medical science - he is not a constitutional lawyer. But he doesn't rule out a series of double dissolution elections if a Liberal majority is not reached in the senate. Obviously, repealling the carbon tax will take a number of years if Mr Abbott decides to go with this policy after the next election. As an election has not been called, Mr Abbott is under no obligation to explain his alternative policies. As opposition leader, his job is to obstruct and oppose the government. Mr Abbott is not required to explain himself or solve the current government's problems for them. Matty supports Mr Abbott 100%. Does Matty know the Kiwis have had a price on carbon for quite awhile? I'd hate for him to get any nasty surprises

Kiwis have an ETS  not a carbon tax based on lies.
Massive difference..... I think.
;D

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:20pm:

No, he wasn't aware of that, Adelcrow, but that's not the point.

He shoulda checked with his travel agent before he booked his flight.
I wonder if travel insurance covers "carbon shock"

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:22pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:19pm: Does Matty know the Kiwis have had a price on carbon for quite awhile? I'd hate for him to get any nasty surprises He knows, but he dismisses it by saying "NZ has an ETS, not a carbon tax." Not sure if that's a typo or not.

True. It might have been a typo. Matty might have meant he's going to New South Wales.

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:22pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:19pm: Does Matty know the Kiwis have had a price on carbon for quite awhile? I'd hate for him to get any nasty surprises He knows, but he dismisses it by saying "NZ has an ETS, not a carbon tax." Not sure if that's a typo or not. True. It might have been a typo. Matty might have meant he's going to New South Wales.

Didnt Abbott vote against the ETS the Labor party had a mandate to introduce because he said it was evil and would destroy the country?
How is NZ going with an ETS Matty?

NZ have an ETS, at a much lower cost, it's not a carbon tax.

I am going tomorrow, and will be back in a year or so. Today will be my last day on here until then, unless I pp in for a brief cameo here and there, although that's not likely.

As said, I will be back, more determined and powerful than ever. You haven't seen the last of matty.

matty wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:41pm:

NZ have an ETS, at a much lower cost, it's not a carbon tax. I am going tomorrow, and will be back in a year or so. Today will be my last day on here until then, unless I pp in for a brief cameo here and there, although that's not likely. As said, I will be back, more determined and powerful than ever. You haven't seen the last of matty.

Congrats matty on turning a dictator's policy into what we all want. A choice, a voice.

matty wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:41pm:

NZ have an ETS, at a much lower cost, it's not a carbon tax. I am going tomorrow, and will be back in a year or so. Today will be my last day on here until then, unless I pp in for a brief cameo here and there, although that's not likely. As said, I will be back, more determined and powerful than ever. You haven't seen the last of matty.

Not me, Matty. I'll see you over there. I'm still trying to organise the tickets.

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:22pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:19pm: Does Matty know the Kiwis have had a price on carbon for quite awhile? I'd hate for him to get any nasty surprises He knows, but he dismisses it by saying "NZ has an ETS, not a carbon tax." Not sure if that's a typo or not. True. It might have been a typo. Matty might have meant he's going to New South Wales.

He might have meant "NZ has an ET".

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx89q2shaZ1qic8pr.jpg

matty wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:41pm:

NZ have an ETS, at a much lower cost, it's not a carbon tax. I am going tomorrow, and will be back in a year or so. Today will be my last day on here until then, unless I pp in for a brief cameo here and there, although that's not likely. As said, I will be back, more determined and powerful than ever. You haven't seen the last of matty.

But Abbott hates an ETS..he knifed Turnbull and blocked Labors even though they had a mandate to introduce one

adelcrow wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:57pm:

matty wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:41pm: NZ have an ETS, at a much lower cost, it's not a carbon tax. I am going tomorrow, and will be back in a year or so. Today will be my last day on here until then, unless I pp in for a brief cameo here and there, although that's not likely. As said, I will be back, more determined and powerful than ever. You haven't seen the last of matty. But Abbott hates an ETS..he knifed Turnbull and blocked Labors even though they had a mandate to introduce one

Yes, but Mr Abbott might have thought they were talking about ET. Have you ever thought of that?

You leftists repulse me.

matty wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:41pm:

NZ have an ETS, at a much lower cost, it's not a carbon tax. I am going tomorrow, and will be back in a year or so. Today will be my last day on here until then, unless I pp in for a brief cameo here and there, although that's not likely. As said, I will be back, more determined and powerful than ever. You haven't seen the last of matty.

Matty as i pointed out on the link Australia is synchronising with them.

SOB

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:59pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:57pm: matty wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:41pm: NZ have an ETS, at a much lower cost, it's not a carbon tax. I am going tomorrow, and will be back in a year or so. Today will be my last day on here until then, unless I pp in for a brief cameo here and there, although that's not likely. As said, I will be back, more determined and powerful than ever. You haven't seen the last of matty. But Abbott hates an ETS..he knifed Turnbull and blocked Labors even though they had a mandate to introduce one Yes, but Mr Abbott might have thought they were talking about ET. Have you ever thought of that? You leftists repulsive me.

Matty could move to South Korea but they are thinking of copying Labors pricing of carbon so he might not be there very long.
Matty will be safe in Alabama..I doubt they will ever price carbon in the deep south

adelcrow wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:59pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:57pm: matty wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 4:41pm: NZ have an ETS, at a much lower cost, it's not a carbon tax. I am going tomorrow, and will be back in a year or so. Today will be my last day on here until then, unless I pp in for a brief cameo here and there, although that's not likely. As said, I will be back, more determined and powerful than ever. You haven't seen the last of matty. But Abbott hates an ETS..he knifed Turnbull and blocked Labors even though they had a mandate to introduce one Yes, but Mr Abbott might have thought they were talking about ET. Have you ever thought of that? You leftists repulsive me. Matty could move to South Korea but they are thinking of copying Labors pricing of carbon so he might not be there very long. Matty will be safe in Alabama..I doubt they will ever price carbon in the deep south

True. Matty may have to country-hop for a bit. However, his parents have a house in New Zealand.

Northern Territory too. Ryde, Hornsby, they have houses all over the place. I'm sure he'll find a country where his parents have a house. Matty, you see, does not receive benefits or stack shelves in Coles. He refuses to.

His next job will be as Liberal backbencher earning at least $180,000 a year, thank you very much.

Its government revenue raising to regain a supplus that was wasted by this government in scheames and programs that only helped the building industry.

Allen will miss you.

YAY! ITS SATURDAY!! Bon Voyaggeee!!!!!! 

Yes, my flight leaves in about 11 hours.

Dunedin, here I come!

Oh damn! I had no idea that this comedy was still in progress  ;D

matty wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 1:06am:

Yes, my flight leaves in about 11 hours. Dunedin, here I come!

Matty, this stunt of yours really isn't necessary. We all know how much you hate Juliar and the carbon tax. The Liberal Party needs you right here in Australia. We need to do everything we can to clean up all those marginal seats. The campaign is on already.

Look, I'll have a chat with Mr Abbott and see if we can get you in. The Liberal Party's a broad church. Will you at least stay for a meeting with Mr Abbott? His office assistant is really nice too. Sheila. We call her Sheils.

matty wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 1:06am:

Yes, my flight leaves in about 11 hours. Dunedin, here I come!

They've heard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-lrE2JcO44&sns=em

matty wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 1:06am:

Yes, my flight leaves in about 11 hours. Dunedin, here I come!

I should warn you again..NZ has a price on carbon so you may want to go somewhere else...Zimbabwe maybe?

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

matty wrote on Jul 7th, 2012 at 1:06am: Yes, my flight leaves in about 11 hours. Dunedin, here I come! Matty, this stunt of yours really isn't necessary. We all know how much you hate Juliar and the carbon tax. The Liberal Party needs you right here in Australia. We need to do everything we can to clean up all those marginal seats. The campaign is on already. Look, I'll have a chat with Mr Abbott and see if we can get you in. The Liberal Party's a broad church. Will you at least stay for a meeting with Mr Abbott? His office assistant is really nice too. Sheila. We call her Sheils.

Matty is doing a  General MacArthur..leaving the troops to fight on in the hills while he escapes and lives it up in luxury.
He will make an excellent Liberal leader with those credentials

I cant wait to see the sock that replaces matty, toooooooooooooo funny. At least she humours us with her stupidity.

skippy. wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 1:43pm:

I cant wait to see the sock that replaces matty, toooooooooooooo funny. At least she humours us with her stupidity.

Matty, these lefties refuse to come to terms with the Deluzean notion of the body without organs. Trapped within an atomised Aristolelian order, they just can't understand multiple subjctivity and semiotic plurality. Obviously, their tradition favours unity, collectivisation and an antiquated notion of community. However, they can't fathom the heterogenous interstices inherent in the pneumena of the post-Cartesean subject. It's all dialectics to them.

Now, we both know there is no such unified form of consciousness known as "Matty". Shane B, Woof Woof, Juliar, Blackadder, Phallic Baldwin - not even these signifiers come close to defining the complexity of such a heterogenous subject. The leftards ignore this completely. They forget that they themselves are adrift in a sea of discursive memes and signifiers, something we understand all too well.

As an author, we know that "Matty" does not exist. Nor does Shane B, Juliar, Woof Woof, HaimRevolution, Awesome, etc, etc, etc. They are mere voices - not even that. They are a set of competing discourses trapped within a name. They are not even subject to time or place. The Matty voice can embody whichever gender he chooses. He/she can live wherever they like. He/she can be as old or as young as they choose, rich or poor, married or single, Liberal, Labor, Green, etc, etc, etc.

These leftards just don't get it.

I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.

If you don't mind I would prefer to think that you are being a little conservative like with your honesty rather than to conclude that you are either that stupid or gullible.

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 3:34pm:

I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax. If you don't mind I would prefer to think that you are being a little conservative like with your honesty rather than to conclude that you are either that stupid or gullible.

I'm sorry but matty will disappoint you there.

well I wish I could afford to just leave Australia for a while.

nairbe wrote on Jul 6^th, 2012 at 9:25am:

warrigal wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 8:23am: so priceing people out of society how is that stimulous. economic stimulus packages, well a lot of us didn't see the $900 hand out for the GFC and as for there cabon tax reimbushment handout now given to pensioners, the unemployed, and soon workers, well $250 at the maximum rate is useless. if mine has been paid well it hasn't benifited me because its already gone. Your the idiot if you waste it or are you too young to get pay, we still in kindy. The ETS is a none event and will be the big fizzer that makes Abbott look the idiot he is. Has Whyalla closed yet, has mining investment collapsed, the power generators have all closed their doors and the coal industry had been shut down, yes??? Get a life, better still get a job and stop being so gullible.

WELL THEN PROVIDE A JOB YOU IGNORANT ARSHOLE

13 pages of dibble because you ignorant buggers think you have the right ridicul Matty because he's got the gumtion to go and do something different to better his life.

you all want to help put his bags on the plane, you have no right to do that.

we choose to stay here in australia, a country that is fast becoming a third world country, something that when it happens, everyone will suffer.
even you lot with your uptight attitude, sooner or later you will suffer, like most of us are already sufferring.

warrigal wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 7:27am:

nairbe wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 9:25am: warrigal wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 8:23am: so priceing people out of society how is that stimulous. economic stimulus packages, well a lot of us didn't see the $900 hand out for the GFC and as for there cabon tax reimbushment handout now given to pensioners, the unemployed, and soon workers, well $250 at the maximum rate is useless. if mine has been paid well it hasn't benifited me because its already gone. Your the idiot if you waste it or are you too young to get pay, we still in kindy. The ETS is a none event and will be the big fizzer that makes Abbott look the idiot he is. Has Whyalla closed yet, has mining investment collapsed, the power generators have all closed their doors and the coal industry had been shut down, yes??? Get a life, better still get a job and stop being so gullible. WELL THEN PROVIDE A JOB YOU IGNORANT ARSHOLE 13 pages of dibble because you ignorant buggers think you have the right ridicul Matty because he's got the gumtion to go and do something different to better his life. you all want to help put his bags on the plane, you have no right to do that. we choose to stay here in australia, a country that is fast becoming a third world country, something that when it happens, everyone will suffer. even you lot with your uptight attitude, sooner or later you will suffer, like most of us are already sufferring.

How are you suffering? :(

simple no money to do anything and the little we have will be taken by bussiness owners who won't pay their carbon tax charges, they pass it on to their cumstomers, the people of Australia.

warrigal wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 7:27am:

WELL THEN PROVIDE A JOB YOU IGNORANT ARSHOLE 13 pages of dibble because you ignorant buggers think you have the right ridicul Matty because he's got the gumtion to go and do something different to better his life. you all want to help put his bags on the plane, you have no right to do that. we choose to stay here in australia, a country that is fast becoming a third world country, something that when it happens, everyone will suffer. even you lot with your uptight attitude, sooner or later you will suffer, like most of us are already sufferring.

If you think matty has gone to New Zealand with $20,000 his father gave him, you are a bigger idiot then he is.

Just because you put something on the internet it doesn't mean it is true.

13 pages of dibble then for no reason, did you all feel supreame. high and mighty

warrigal wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 7:01am:

simple no money to do anything and the little we have will be taken by bussiness owners who won't pay their carbon tax charges, they pass it on to their cumstomers, the people of Australia.

:( So can you share examples of this happening to you?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 7:13am:

warrigal wrote on Jul 10th, 2012 at 7:01am: simple no money to do anything and the little we have will be taken by bussiness owners who won't pay their carbon tax charges, they pass it on to their cumstomers, the people of Australia. :( So can you share examples of this happening to you?

Of course not, the nuffy wouldn't even know the few businesses that are paying the tax. Abbott has done a great job of scaring the s hit out of the stupid/gullible/morons/under educated. Its times like this I really wish we had voluntary voting,then the f kwits that pass as humans wouldn't bother voting.

John S wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 8:53am:

warrigal wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 7:27am: WELL THEN PROVIDE A JOB YOU IGNORANT ARSHOLE 13 pages of dibble because you ignorant buggers think you have the right ridicul Matty because he's got the gumtion to go and do something different to better his life. you all want to help put his bags on the plane, you have no right to do that. we choose to stay here in australia, a country that is fast becoming a third world country, something that when it happens, everyone will suffer. even you lot with your uptight attitude, sooner or later you will suffer, like most of us are already sufferring. If you think matty has gone to New Zealand with $20,000 his father gave him, you are a bigger idiot then he is. Just because you put something on the internet it doesn't mean it is true.

I thought it was $200 000

warrigal wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 7:27am:

nairbe wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 9:25am: warrigal wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 8:23am: so priceing people out of society how is that stimulous. economic stimulus packages, well a lot of us didn't see the $900 hand out for the GFC and as for there cabon tax reimbushment handout now given to pensioners, the unemployed, and soon workers, well $250 at the maximum rate is useless. if mine has been paid well it hasn't benifited me because its already gone. Your the idiot if you waste it or are you too young to get pay, we still in kindy. The ETS is a none event and will be the big fizzer that makes Abbott look the idiot he is. Has Whyalla closed yet, has mining investment collapsed, the power generators have all closed their doors and the coal industry had been shut down, yes??? Get a life, better still get a job and stop being so gullible. WELL THEN PROVIDE A JOB YOU IGNORANT ARSHOLE 13 pages of dibble because you ignorant buggers think you have the right ridicul Matty because he's got the gumtion to go and do something different to better his life. you all want to help put his bags on the plane, you have no right to do that. we choose to stay here in australia, a country that is fast becoming a third world country, something that when it happens, everyone will suffer. even you lot with your uptight attitude, sooner or later you will suffer, like most of us are already sufferring.

fast becoming a third world country? are you nuts or just plain stupid? ...I bet you have never travelled out of your suburb let alone out of the country ... you wouldn't know what a third world country is .....

- Worlds Best economy
- ranked 1st or 2nd best country to live by united nations for at least the last decade......

you wouldn't know a third world country if it fell on you ....

Who is the bigger fool:

Matty for leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.

Matty's father for giving him (throwing away) $200,000.

Karnal, for trying to organise Mattys campaign without Mattys approval.

or

all of us for reading this stupid thread.

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2012 at 8:50am:

warrigal wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 7:27am: nairbe wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 9:25am: warrigal wrote on Jul 6th, 2012 at 8:23am: so priceing people out of society how is that stimulous. economic stimulus packages, well a lot of us didn't see the $900 hand out for the GFC and as for there cabon tax reimbushment handout now given to pensioners, the unemployed, and soon workers, well $250 at the maximum rate is useless. if mine has been paid well it hasn't benifited me because its already gone. Your the idiot if you waste it or are you too young to get pay, we still in kindy. The ETS is a none event and will be the big fizzer that makes Abbott look the idiot he is. Has Whyalla closed yet, has mining investment collapsed, the power generators have all closed their doors and the coal industry had been shut down, yes??? Get a life, better still get a job and stop being so gullible. WELL THEN PROVIDE A JOB YOU IGNORANT ARSHOLE 13 pages of dibble because you ignorant buggers think you have the right ridicul Matty because he's got the gumtion to go and do something different to better his life. you all want to help put his bags on the plane, you have no right to do that. we choose to stay here in australia, a country that is fast becoming a third world country, something that when it happens, everyone will suffer. even you lot with your uptight attitude, sooner or later you will suffer, like most of us are already sufferring. fast becoming a third world country? are you nuts or just plain stupid? ...I bet you have never travelled out of your suburb let alone out of the country ... you wouldn't know what a third world country is ..... - Worlds Best economy - ranked 1st or 2nd best country to live by united nations for at least the last decade...... you wouldn't know a third world country if it fell on you ....

Ignorant

yes I have been to most states in Australia, at my age now of 44 I am not a kid.

the situation is this without any futher help I am limited in travel options, thus being able to travel overseas like most other Australian get to do.

and with a carbon tax it will become futher out of the reach of all Australians.

you can't just say well Save your money. saving won't do it.