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Title: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Peace Life Party on Jun 26th, 2012 at 12:49pm
Introduction
This is 21st Century. We were not happy (actually angry) of what is happening in the world. We were not happy that in the name of Capitalism the Governments of the world work for the rich and neglect rest of the population at the peril of the Countries they were elected to serve. Especially in Australia where 100% goes to vote as voting is mandatory. More so when shares of the companies and Currency Rate of a Country are manipulated not by the conditions in the Country but by the Hedge Funds in the world making many mammas and papas investors to ruin. Worse in the Name open market, these same Governments, to help this rich to trade overseas have let the overseas rich to scavenge everything Australian without any benefit to the people. They gobble every natural resource, prime pastoral lands. These policies in the long run will be going to ruin the Country. Worse with all the wealth they gained from Australian dirt, they BLACMAILED Australian Government of the people when the Government proposed to Tax them. Imagine you and I the voters, blackmailing the Australian Government. You will be hounded by the Federal Police, you will then taken before Federal Court with Federal Judge and will be put Into The Federal Prison for LIFE. If you don’t know by now, these Rich advises the Government on how to manage the economy - poor you. This is not right. All the resources of the Country belong to the people. In Australia they belong to Aborigine first and to the rest of Citizens. In reality the aborigines are the worst off with everything poor quality and life expectancy is 45 years with their young ones destroyed even before they build a quality of life for themselves. What about the rest of us? The Government maintains 5% unemployment. Our health system makes sure there is always large waiting list for minor surgeries so that many are forced to take private health insurance and get Immediate health benefits. Our super is gambled in the share market and with massive losses so much so the operators of your Superannuation funds have advised the Government to extend the retirement age so that you die before retirement. These losses are profit to outside the Country. This happens even though there is huge unemployment in youth and much more than 5% unemployment generally, creating much misery in families which results in much violence and crime. If our natural resources are properly managed there is no need of poverty, unemployment, homelessness, crime, health problem even retirement problem. Hence We propose a new political party. We need a name aptly and what better name than Peace Life Party. We have formulated some ideas what would a PeaceLife Party Government do if elected. Economic theories that were wonderful in 19th and 20th Centuries seem to have created a mess. New millennium needs new thinking and Our Party proposes some Fresh Ideas that need to be implemented for the welfare of the world especially Australia. These policies are really good for Other Countries as well. After analysing this document, please email your opinion and additions, whether you would like to join the party, volunteer and support financially. PREAMBLE Abraham Lincoln said: The Government is Of the People By the People and For the People. In reality in the name of Capitalism this statement has become: The Government is Of the Business, By the Business and For the Business. The people go to polls to elect a government to look after their interests. Their interests are: Good Health, Sound Education, Secure Employment, Fair Rewards and Promotions for good workers Clean Environment, Safe Living Finally Pleasant Retirement. Hence, all our Policies will be scrutinised and structured to see how they improve the Family Life. The question of our Government always will be, “How does this policy enhance the lives of ordinary Families” This is the plum line that will be used to measure success of our policies. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=downloadfile;file=PLP.doc (210 KB | 51
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Elvis Wesley on Jun 26th, 2012 at 1:25pm Quote:
Such as? |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by pansi1951 on Jun 26th, 2012 at 5:13pm
mmmmmmm, I know one thing for sure. Over the next decade we will see the formation of fringe group parties, mostly left leaning like yours. They will form from lack of choice and because the two major parties have lost their way.
Have you heard of the Pirate Party, it's sweeping Europe because most European countries are unhappy with their choice too. Pirate Party is a label adopted by political parties in different countries. Pirate Parties support civil rights, direct democracy and participation, reform of copyright and patent law, free sharing of knowledge (Open Content), data privacy, transparency, freedom of information, free education, universal healthcare and a clear separation between church and state[citation needed]. They advocate network neutrality and universal, unrestricted access to the Internet as indispensable conditions to some of this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party Sorry to rain on your Peace Life Party, but just as an indication the Pirate Party got 2% of the German vote, which is ok for starters. The Australian Greens will go from strength to strength as more people become disgruntled with the other parties and people look for a left leaning party (the old Labor Party). The wider the gap becomes between rich and poor, the more chance these parties have of coming to the fore. Good luck and don't forget to factor into your budget the Great Depression that is on our door step, and the resulting social unrest that will come out of that. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Morning Mist on Jun 27th, 2012 at 3:45pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 26th, 2012 at 5:13pm:
The Greens have been saying they're the alternative for a while. But that hasn't necessarily come true. Look at the election in Qld recently, the Liberals were voted in by a huge majority, and even Katter's party got more votes. The Greens have a candidate in almost every electorate and the best they can do is a member here and there. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 27th, 2012 at 4:03pm
IMO the greens arent any more "left" than the libs or lab. Okay so they are supposedly into environmentalism. That doesnt make them "left". Have a look @ their polices.
SOB |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 27th, 2012 at 4:33pm Two words Clap trap |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Reply To Elvis Wesley Post by Peace Life Party on Jun 27th, 2012 at 8:38pm
Please Read the attachment. They give details
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Reply To Elvis Wesley Post by wonderwoman on Jun 28th, 2012 at 1:15am Peace Life Party wrote on Jun 27th, 2012 at 8:38pm:
I did read your attachment and it's in desperate need of a revamp. Some of your ideas seem ok but many of your political platforms for Australia are the stuff of simple fairy tales. The document was a brave attempt on your part to address many issues which are currently burning on our political landscape. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Chard on Jun 28th, 2012 at 5:25pm
Ok, Buddy, don't take this the wrong way. I'm trying to help you with some constructive criticism and questions that might help you to actually flesh out whatever it is you new party is for or against.
Peace Life Party wrote on Jun 26th, 2012 at 12:49pm:
This is unnecessary. We already know it's the introduction since this is the beginning of your post. One of the keys to winning the hearts and minds (and wallets) or potential ideological converts is to keep your schpeel short and to the point. So trimming the fat by removing redundant things like this would help you out a lot. Quote:
This is terrible English. Seriously, that needs to read "this is the 21st Century". Another key to converting the masses to your wacky ideology is being able to clearly communicate. It's pretty hard to tell people about your new party if we can't understand you. Quote:
I'm going to assume that you are still unhappy, so it should be "are not happy". "Were" would make it past tense, indicating that you are no longer unhappy with whatever is happening in the world. Also added "we are" to the bit in parenthesis and a comma after the closing parenthesis. This is stuff MS Word could have caught, guy. Quote:
Seriously, what is it with you and the past tense? Next time read what you wrote out loud and if it doesn't sound right then it probably isn't. Quote:
What exactly is it about mandatory voting that bothers you? Is it that you have to go and vote or that you feel as if your vote is being wasted? Quote:
1. Welcome to the global economy. 2. I'm guessing English isn't your first language. Quote:
Ok, besides the terrible abuse of my language... Overseas trade is a vital component of Australia's economy (or any First/Developing World economy for that matter). So unless you're planning on using a platform of isolationism and pretty much screwing your country's economy like it was a cheap Mexican hooker I'm kind of wondering if you've actually though this through at all. In short, do you have a plan for solving whatever problems you seem to find in the current system without doing massive and possibly irreparable harm to your country? Quote:
Who did this blackmailing you speak of? Give specific examples, preferably well known ones. This way the people you're trying to convince will have some idea about what you're saying. Ok, instead of going line-by-line correcting your terrible grasp of my language I'm going to pretend you get the point by now and skip ahead to specific claims you've made. Quote:
You already do that every time it's an election year. When you break it down to simplest cases, voting for your political leadership is really just a means of blackmailing them with the threat that if the politicians don't do what you want then you won't vote for them again. See, stuff like this is why I respect organized crime. The church will tell you "give us money or you ain't going to heaven". THe government says "give us money or you'll life in lawlessness and anarchy". Gangsters are at least honest enough to just come right out and tell you that if you don't give them money they'll have Sal and Little Tony break your legs. Quote:
Are these "people" going to provide the capital needed to mine/exploit those natural resources in order to bring them to market? Quote:
Oh, stop whining. At least your country has socialized medicine. Trust me, waiting in line is a lot better than not receiving any care at all. Quote:
Which theories in specific are you talking about here? What economic theory do you propose to try instead? Quote:
Preambles go at the beginning of a document or speech, high speed. Quote:
Lincoln never said any such thing. I take it you're trying to quote the Gettysburg Address, right? Let's see what the actual quote was and see just how hilariously out of context you are. "It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." He wasn't talking about some strange new form of socialism, he was speaking about the cost of war and the cost of "freedom". Seriously, if you're going to quote or even paraphrase famous political figures then you really need to get it right. Otherwise don't bother because it'll just make people point at you and laugh. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by adelcrow on Jun 28th, 2012 at 5:45pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 27th, 2012 at 3:45pm:
Queensland has no Senate so its still easy for the duopoly to manipulate the election results to maintain the status quo |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by pansi1951 on Jun 28th, 2012 at 6:18pm
Chard <<THe government says "give us money or you'll life in lawlessness and anarchy">>
................................................................ You have to be careful when you knock another persons spelling/grammar. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Morning Mist on Jun 28th, 2012 at 6:41pm adelcrow wrote on Jun 28th, 2012 at 5:45pm:
How? |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Chard on Jun 28th, 2012 at 10:00pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 28th, 2012 at 6:18pm:
Two quick points, scooter... 1. I wasn't knocking their English, I was correcting it. 2. With as long as that post was if a single typo is all your weak communist self could come up with then it's pretty damn obvious you're being a nitpicking douche. Look at where "F" and "V" are at on a QWERTY keyboard and you'll see why it is I 'm looking at your post wondering if you literally have a dick growing out of your forehead or just a figurative phallus clawing its way out of your dome. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Avram Horowitz on Jun 28th, 2012 at 10:03pm
Much of the time people's sayings miss me.
I nderstnd he English but not the meaning. My spelling is good but my iPad changes it as I write!! |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by pansi1951 on Jun 29th, 2012 at 6:25am Chard wrote on Jun 28th, 2012 at 10:00pm:
Ah! so you like to slag off at other people's mistakes, but you can't be wrong. How did I know that would be your reaction to a slight correction. Get over yourself, you're not important in the scheme of things. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Chard on Jun 29th, 2012 at 7:10am Yes, it really is that good to be a Gangsta... Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 6:25am:
Wow, I'm actually kind of amazed. I've never encountered weapons-grade stupid of this magnitude outside of a fraternity full drunk freshman pledges rushing for which ever house would promise to get them laid the most. I mean, how you go from constructive criticism to "slagging off" doesn't require a mere leap of counter-intuitive thinking, it means your brain is probably more flexible a Louisiana politicians ethics. I'm floored. Shocked. I am in awe of your magnificent ability to... fail at trolling. You're to obvious, kid. Tone it down a notch and stop being such a goddamn try-hard. Also, stop reading so much Chomsky, and for f*ck's sake, go wash that Che Guevara t-shirt before it gains sentience and starts the revolution while you're still wearing it. Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 6:25am:
Oh no, Scooter thinks I'm unimportant. Which is ironic considering you took the time to respond to me. Again. Now, I'm not saying that you're the worst wannabe troll I've ever seen on the internet. I'm saying that you're really terrible at it and need to stop trying so hard all the time in a desperate bid for the attention of others. Also, I'm not saying you're the dumbest human being I've met on the internet in over 20 years of using it. That would be rude and one of the Admins told me I'm not supposed to flatout tell people they're morons, even when they are clearly being a moron. I'm saying you're in the top ten, probably tying for 6th with this guy I knew who seriously believes that Stanley Kubrick's "Dr. Strangelove" wasn't a parody. Just sayin'... And that, Scooter, is how it's done. Next time, bring your A game or just stay home. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by pansi1951 on Jun 29th, 2012 at 3:11pm
Another OVER reaction.
I hope you don't go away and cry when your superior has a go at you. Anyway, enough said, I know you're not who or what you profess to be, so any conversation with you is waste. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Chard on Jun 29th, 2012 at 11:45pm
I thought you said I was unimportant, Scooter? Why are you still responding?
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Peace Life Party on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 7:37pm
While we are discussing many ideas we forget there 5% (More than 5%) are always unemployed and many are under employed. And many of them are permanently so.
Imagine being cold and hungry in this severe winter! We have to change this idea of labour as resource for Business. They are human beings and are, like all others, hungry, sick and many are angry that they are in this condition even though there is huge wealth in Australia to feed more than say 100 million! |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by pansi1951 on Jul 3rd, 2012 at 6:32am
We should be doing better as far as homelessness goes. There is no excuse for a country as rich as ours to have an ever increasing population of homeless people.
It's been said before on here, the difference between a roof over your head and a bridge over your head can be as little as 6-8 weeks of unemployment. People on low wages live hand to mouth, week to week, they have no resources to save them if they suddenly become jobless and when the money runs out, they find themselves on the street. The dole will not pay the rent and buy food, it's one or the other, they choose to eat, which any sensible person would do. I know a single aged pensioner that's taken to living in her car between couch hopping and house sitting. It's not right. It makes you wonder how many others are in her situation since you'd never know she was homeless to look at her, extremely well groomed and well spoken. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Chard on Jul 3rd, 2012 at 12:43pm Peace Life Party wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 7:37pm:
Yeah, I get it and it's a problem. How do you propose to solve it? Peace Life Party wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 7:37pm:
Again, how do you propose to solve the problem? You can go around saying there's a problem, but without some sort of framework for fixing the problem you're not being very helpful. Also, your country's 2011 GDP numbers vs your 2011 population numbers say Australia's wealth is enough to give all 22 million of you a hair under $42,000 each. Of course doing so would utterly ruin your economy, but whatever. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by pansi1951 on Jul 3rd, 2012 at 2:52pm
Total Australian debt is almost $4 trillion. That's a lot for a small population.
http://www.australiandebtclock.com.au/ |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Peace Life Party on Jul 13th, 2012 at 9:23pm
This ideas for Peace Life Party was created because there are many social issues that needs attention.
First of all it is a Right for a man to be employed. The Government of the Country must facilitate creation of Employment. Instead they are the main hindrance to full employment. I always belief when the time of economic down turn and Private Sector Reduces workers then the Government must absorb many of them to keep them ready when Business and Economy picks up. Instead Government joins the Businesses and reduce workers. Just like that. The Government must make the playing field equal for all sizes of Businesses considering the fact that the Small Businesses are the largest employers. They must not allow the Supermarkets to be producers. For example the Supermarkets can sell Bread but not be Bakers. All small businesses must have access to products and produces at almost same prices. All forms of monopolistic activities of all major players must be chopped in the bud. A certain percentage (may be 30%) of all Government hand outs like pension and benefits must be given as coupons similar sizes of dollar values and material which can only be spent in local small businesses. To compete Internationally all Local manufacturers must be given all resources and energy at local cost if they are from local suppliers. Exchange rates must be Fixed and so must the Interest rates. So that the businesses can budget and profit. It is running the economy by fluctuations of interest has brought the Financial crisis. I will talk about this later |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by nairbe on Jul 13th, 2012 at 10:23pm Peace Life Party wrote on Jul 13th, 2012 at 9:23pm:
You are an idiot right. Please tell me you are stupid and a simpleton it is the only way i can fathom this rubbish. The government must get the fu$k out of employment and the community should stop being the selfcentered grred fool and employ itself. What a load of piffle. |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by Peace Life Party on Jul 30th, 2012 at 10:48am
I respect the words of nairbe.
We cannot keep the youth without hope to the elements. We as members of the democratic society must find solutions to keep all youth occupied. Nobody wants to unemployed and be part of statistics. They too want to have their needs met by proper employment. In the Party's document it clear there are alternate solutions. As an individual we can think and propose Ideas but it is the people through Government implement these Ideas and make 100% employed, creating a Healthy Society. We need more Ideas. Words without Ideas do not help the unemployed youth or the rest of the middle aged unemployed who are part of 5% unemployment making Politicians happy. We must all be concerned and work towards 100% employed. Otherwise we too might end up in the permanent 5% unemployed |
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Title: Re: Ideas for Peace Life Party Post by aquascoot on Jul 30th, 2012 at 6:41pm
good on you for having a go.
you couldnt be worse than the current garbage we are served up. i am considering forming a party called "one less parasite to feed " party. i will stand for the senate on the platform that if elected i will give my entire wage to medical research and i will continue working and never darken canberras doorstep. i think i'll secure a good number of votes. you can have my preferences perhaps. :D :D |
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