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Title: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:20am

Still no answer from anyone on this question..

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:24am

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:20am:

Still no answer from anyone on this question..

Current trajectory level of human carbon pollution is perfect ... if destruction of the human civilisation is the aim.

What is the Liberal Party's aim old man

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Swagman on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:33am

Lots of CO2 might turn our creeks and rivers into beer.... :D

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:37am

Swagman wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:33am:

Lots of CO2 might turn our creeks and rivers into beer.... :D

Recycle ... Recarbonate ... Resell

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Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 4:08pm

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:20am:

Still no answer from anyone on this question..

Um, it's a nice question and a completely valid one I'll give you that!!

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 4:11pm

Any money bloody ripper can't handle the answer!!!

;) ;)

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by muso on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 6:57pm

Some say about 350ppm maximum at the moment. Atmospheric CO2 levels have varied between 180ppm and 280ppm during the last million years or so. 180ppm during periods of glaciation.

The more important question relates to rate of change.

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 7:05pm

bloody ripper can't understand simple ocncepts!

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by adamant on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:59pm

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:20am:

Still no answer from anyone on this question..

No more than this

http://www.livestrong.com/article/218581-the-effects-of-inhaling-carbon-dioxide-gas/

And a bloody site less than this. I do hope we dont start to bury the stuff.

http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/21/the-strangest-disaster-of-the-20th-century/

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Paella on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 12:08pm

Given that life on earth has spent the last hundred million years give or take evolving in an atmosphere comprised of approximately 250 ppm or so, I'd say that is the ideal level.

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Dnarever on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 3:47pm

I would think a rate which does not lead to an eventual temperature rise of 3 to 5 degrees , leave the world capable of producing between about 50% to 70% of the current world food supply and the resulting population drop.

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by muso on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 9:14am

Paella wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 12:08pm:

Given that life on earth has spent the last hundred million years give or take evolving in an atmosphere comprised of approximately 250 ppm or so, I'd say that is the ideal level.

Of course the earth of prehistory has a darn sight more vegetation (carbon sink).

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 19^th, 2012 at 2:28pm

muso wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 9:14am:

Paella wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 12:08pm:

Given that life on earth has spent the last hundred million years give or take evolving in an atmosphere comprised of approximately 250 ppm or so, I'd say that is the ideal level.

Of course the earth of prehistory has a darn sight more vegetation (carbon sink).

oH YEH: THERE IS NO DOUBTING TONY ABBOTT PULLS THE OVERSIMPLIFIED VOTE WITH HIS TREE PLANTING SCHEME, BUT, WHEN IT COMES TO EXPLAINING IT..... ha, the media is going to have a field day and Julia knows it!

BYE BYE TONY ABBOTT!!

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Soren on Jul 19^th, 2012 at 10:28pm

muso wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 9:14am:

Paella wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 12:08pm:

Given that life on earth has spent the last hundred million years give or take evolving in an atmosphere comprised of approximately 250 ppm or so, I'd say that is the ideal level.

Of course the earth of prehistory has a darn sight more vegetation (carbon sink).

Fossil fuels is that vegetation. When you burn it, you are releasing the sun's energy the vegetation absorbed while it was alive.

Just a left-field question to all the scientists - why IS there fossil fuels? In the great natural scheme that is Gaia - what is the point of fossil fuels (or what we call fossil fuels')? Soil formation supports future vegetation. Vegetation supports life (as food and as generator of oxygen). What's the point of coal and oil and gas?

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Soren on Jul 19^th, 2012 at 10:33pm

____ wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:24am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:20am:

Still no answer from anyone on this question..

Current trajectory level of human carbon pollution is perfect ... if destruction of the human civilisation is the aim.

What is the Liberal Party's aim old man

What? You don't like a population policy that ultimately reduces the number of carcinogenic humans feeding on Gaia's breast? What kinda Green are you?!

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 1:20pm

Soren wrote on Jul 19^th, 2012 at 10:28pm:

muso wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 9:14am:

Paella wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 12:08pm:

Given that life on earth has spent the last hundred million years give or take evolving in an atmosphere comprised of approximately 250 ppm or so, I'd say that is the ideal level.

Of course the earth of prehistory has a darn sight more vegetation (carbon sink).

What is the point of marijuana if you can't smoke it at work in front of your boring bosses face??

THERE ARE LIMITS BUDDY: ARE YOU GOING TO PRETEND LIBERAL VOTERS DONT' UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS NOW?

GEEZ YOU THINK YOU'RE OVER EVERYONES HEAD DON'T YA BUDDY!??! :-* :-*

EFFICIENCY BREEDS SUCCESS SO HAVE A COKE AND A SMILE ... AND MAYBE SOME MORE CRACK :D :D ;)

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Doctor Jolly on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 1:38pm

Soren wrote on Jul 19^th, 2012 at 10:28pm:

muso wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 9:14am:

Paella wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 12:08pm:

Given that life on earth has spent the last hundred million years give or take evolving in an atmosphere comprised of approximately 250 ppm or so, I'd say that is the ideal level.

Of course the earth of prehistory has a darn sight more vegetation (carbon sink).

What an odd question. Probably best for the religion board.

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Uncle Meat on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 2:03pm

____ wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:24am:

Current trajectory level of human carbon pollution is perfect ... if destruction of the human civilisation is the aim.

Don't sweat it; we can just move if things get too bad.

"Scientists discover life-supporting planet 'right at Earth's front door' "

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/super-earth-scientists-discover-life-supporting-planet-right-at-earths-front-door/story-fn5fsgyc-1226430817117

Title: Re: What is the ideal Level of CO2?
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 4:22pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 2:03pm:

____ wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 9:24am:

Current trajectory level of human carbon pollution is perfect ... if destruction of the human civilisation is the aim.

UNCLE MEAT HAS SWAPPED HIS MEDICATION BACK TO THE WAY HE LIKED IT: THE WRONG WAY AROUND!

Limits dood....limits!!

It is what sustaianbility is all about and, indeed, economics itself.

CHEWING UP THE WORLDS ENTIRE INTERNET ADDRESS SPACE IS NOT POSSIBLE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!

:D :D :D :D :D :D ;)