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Message started by Spot of Borg on Jun 14th, 2012 at 3:59pm

Title: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 14th, 2012 at 3:59pm
http://www.news.com.au/travel/australia/marine-reserves-to-limit-fishing/story-e6frfq89-1226395238985


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    * Federal Government to limit fishing on special reserves
    * Environment group Pew says news "a turning point"
    * New marine sanctuaries will help "rapid growth" and new marine life

FISHING, oil and gas exploration are set to be limited when the Federal Government introduces a world-first network of marine reserves around Australia.

Environment Minister Tony Burke will release the final plan for 44 marine parks including the Coral Sea and the southwest coast of Western Australia today.

The new reserves will cover 3.1 million square kilometres, or a third of Australian waters.

The reserves will limit fishing and some oil and gas exploration.

Mr Burke will unveil the marine reserve maps at Sydney Aquarium this morning.

"This new network of marine reserves will help ensure that Australia's diverse marine environment and the life it supports, remain healthy, productive and resilient for future generations," Mr Burke told The Australian Financial Review.

The marine reserve announcement comes on the eve of the United Nations Rio+20 conference on sustainable development in Brazil and will give Prime Minister Julia Gillard a public relations boost.

Environment group Pew described the marine reserve plan as a "turning point" in marine protection.

Spokeswoman Michelle Grady said establishing large marine sanctuaries would lead to rapid growth in eco tourism and increased stocks of marine life.

"But critical areas remain vulnerable to the threat of oil spills, including the tourist mecca of Margaret River, the blue whale feeding grounds off South Australia's Kangaroo Island and the extraordinary coral reefs at Rowley Shoals off the Kimberley coast," she said.

The Australian Conservation Foundation chief executive Don Henry said the plan would make Australia a "global leader" in ocean protection.

"Although the reserve network bans oil and gas exploration in the Coral Sea, the northwest region has been left vulnerable to these threats," he said.

Commercial fishers are set to receive compensation from the Federal Government.

"We've got an adjustment policy where we will work case by case with the different companies involved," Mr Burke told ABC radio today.


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Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by pansi1951 on Jun 14th, 2012 at 5:02pm
That's good news. I didn't think anyone was interested in preserving something for the next generations. Hopefully the little kiddies of 2080 will see a real live fishy. Unless America nuke us of course.

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 14th, 2012 at 5:12pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 5:02pm:
That's good news. I didn't think anyone was interested in preserving something for the next generations. Hopefully the little kiddies of 2080 will see a real live fishy. Unless America nuke us of course.


Or israel

Thing is i cant believe this is just for preserving the environment. There has to be some other reason.

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Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by corporate_whitey on Jun 14th, 2012 at 5:14pm
Which crime syndicates are trying to get control of our fisheries resources and what is the Governments involvement?

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by corporate_whitey on Jun 14th, 2012 at 5:17pm
I heard they are g :-Xoing to squeeze the smaller fishing trawlers out and the shadowy business efforts are going to clear net whole sections of the oceans charging mega prices for huge profits, graft and bribery!

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2012 at 6:30pm
Hope you don't mind me moving this thread to hunting and fishing.


corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 5:17pm:
I heard they are g :-Xoing to squeeze the smaller fishing trawlers out and the shadowy business efforts are going to clear net whole sections of the oceans charging mega prices for huge profits, graft and bribery!


That is actually a more efficient way of doing it. With modern technology, 1 boat can do the job that used to take ten boats. Government legislation has restricted open competition and propped up uncompetitive businesses. We should not be treating professional fishermen as some kind of charity.

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2012 at 6:31pm
This Topic was moved here from Politicians Suck by freediver.

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 14th, 2012 at 6:34pm
Well its gillards policy and some liberal guy was just on tv saying how bad it was. I dunno.

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Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by John Smith on Jun 14th, 2012 at 6:48pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 6:34pm:
Well its gillards policy and some liberal guy was just on tv saying how bad it was. I dunno.

SOB


of course he was ... what did you expect ?... preserve something for the future or destroy it for a quick profit ... which option do you think the libs are going to take?

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2012 at 6:55pm
Right on cue:

Fishing industry slams marine park plan

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8483350

Australia's plan to set up the world's largest network of marine parks has been hailed as a major environmental step, but the fishing industry is reeling.

The minister will make a final decision on the plan following a 60-day consultation process, but warned the process would not involve shifting lines on maps.

Nationals leader Warren Truss said the plan to create 44 marine parks was aimed at giving Prime Minister Julia Gillard something to crow about at next week's United Nations environment summit in Brazil.

Mr Truss said the massive "no go zones" would shut out commercial and recreational fishers.

"When 'lock it up' is the government's approach to vast areas of Australia's territorial waters is it any wonder our supermarkets are overflowing with imported seafood?" he said.

The government proposes a $100 million compensation package for commercial fishing operators, with the details yet to come and funding provided on a case-by-case basis.

Ms Gillard said the marine plan would affect only about one per cent of current commercial fishing activity.




It is expected that the final marine reserves will be declared before the end of 2012.

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 14th, 2012 at 6:59pm
lol @ something to crow about. Im sure she has some reasons that we dont know about but im equally sure that isnt it. They say that about everything. Prolly projecting. A lot of work has obviously gone into this whatever its really for. I suspect its to distract from what is going to happen to the reef.

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Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by pansi1951 on Jun 14th, 2012 at 7:01pm
I still can't help thinking there's something more behind it. Has it been on the back burner for some time? It's not like anyone was pressing for a gigantic marine reserve, were they? This is the first I've heard about it, but it's a pretty big deal for resource exploration and the fishing industry.

It just seems out of character for a right wing government to care about the environment unless they did a deal with the greens for something or other.

Anyway, I suppose we'll find out soon enough.

No one will read this thread in fishing.

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by John Smith on Jun 14th, 2012 at 7:07pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 6:55pm:
Right on cue:

Fishing industry slams marine park plan

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8483350

Australia's plan to set up the world's largest network of marine parks has been hailed as a major environmental step, but the fishing industry is reeling.

The minister will make a final decision on the plan following a 60-day consultation process, but warned the process would not involve shifting lines on maps.

Nationals leader Warren Truss said the plan to create 44 marine parks was aimed at giving Prime Minister Julia Gillard something to crow about at next week's United Nations environment summit in Brazil.

Mr Truss said the massive "no go zones" would shut out commercial and recreational fishers.

"When 'lock it up' is the government's approach to vast areas of Australia's territorial waters is it any wonder our supermarkets are overflowing with imported seafood?" he said.

The government proposes a $100 million compensation package for commercial fishing operators, with the details yet to come and funding provided on a case-by-case basis.

Ms Gillard said the marine plan would affect only about one per cent of current commercial fishing activity.




It is expected that the final marine reserves will be declared before the end of 2012.


Considering the supermarkets are already full of imported fish, its a bit late to be using that excuse ..  the horse has bolted

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 14th, 2012 at 7:34pm

Quote:
No one will read this thread in fishing.


Heh yeah i know - nm deathridesahorse maqqa and greens_win will start another one (each)

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Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2012 at 8:01pm

Quote:
I still can't help thinking there's something more behind it. Has it been on the back burner for some time? It's not like anyone was pressing for a gigantic marine reserve, were they?


Yes. There has been a big campaign from one of the NGOs pushing for this, especially in the coral see. It was even advertised on TV.


Quote:
It just seems out of character for a right wing government to care about the environment unless they did a deal with the greens for something or other.


It was the federal Labor government. In the past both parties have supported marine parks. The coalition gave us the great barrier reef marine park network, which at the time was the biggest in the world. Some state coalition and the federal coalition appear to be anti-marine park at the moment, but we are yet to see what this will mean in practice.

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 15th, 2012 at 7:57am
They arent really anti-marine park as much as they are anti-gillard. I have seen 2 spokesppl now saying how "this government" cant be trusted to do it right. Crap like that.

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Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2012 at 8:16am
You don't know what you are talking about Spot. The marine park debate did not start yesterday.

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 15th, 2012 at 8:30am

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 8:16am:
You don't know what you are talking about Spot. The marine park debate did not start yesterday.


Well provide evidence of your argument. In fact how about telling me your argument. you obviously want to argue. What is your argument?

Obviously i am talking about the 2 spokesppl I have seen on TV. I know what they said. I am talking about them. you on the other hand are trying to provoke me again.  All you had to say was: "The marine park debate did not start yesterday." but no you had to add the front bit to try and piss me off.

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Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2012 at 8:49am
I thought you might pay more attention to what you were posting if I included that bit. It seems to have worked.

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 15th, 2012 at 9:01am

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 8:49am:
I thought you might pay more attention to what you were posting if I included that bit. It seems to have worked.


so you didnt have a point? Figgers.

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Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2012 at 9:06am
Not really spot. I was just correcting you.

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by freediver on Nov 16th, 2012 at 6:05pm
Burke officially declares marine reserves

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-16/burke-officially-declares-marine-reserves/4375644

Fishermen will be offered $100 million in compensation under the Government's plan to extend marine reserves to cover more than 2.3 million square kilometres of ocean environment.

Today's declaration of the marine parks officially puts into law new restrictions on what fishing and resources activities are allowed in certain areas.

The Government announced five draft marine reserves in June, saying it would consult with affected industries about how they should be implemented.

Environment Minister Tony Burke says the world's oceans are under serious threat, and the extension of marine protections will help deal with the growing problem.

"As of midnight tonight, Australia becomes the world leader in protection of the oceans," Mr Burke told reporters in Sydney this morning.

Under the plan, certain areas will be declared off limits to commercial fishing, while others will be protected from future oil and gas development.

Mr Burke acknowledges the plan will hurt the fishing industry, and has put forward a structural adjustment package to help the sector.

"The impact on wild catch fishing around Australia is in the order of around 1 per cent of their value of production," he said in explaining the compensation on offer.

The assistance package will include direct payments to fishing businesses based on their recent history in areas where the marine protections will come into force.

There will also be a buyback of some fishing quotas where the overall allowable catch has been reduced because of the new reserves.

Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by Spot of Borg on Nov 17th, 2012 at 5:47am

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 8:01pm:

Quote:
I still can't help thinking there's something more behind it. Has it been on the back burner for some time? It's not like anyone was pressing for a gigantic marine reserve, were they?


Yes. There has been a big campaign from one of the NGOs pushing for this, especially in the coral see. It was even advertised on TV.

[quote]It just seems out of character for a right wing government to care about the environment unless they did a deal with the greens for something or other.


It was the federal Labor government. In the past both parties have supported marine parks. The coalition gave us the great barrier reef marine park network, which at the time was the biggest in the world. Some state coalition and the federal coalition appear to be anti-marine park at the moment, but we are yet to see what this will mean in practice.[/quote]

Pansi isnt stupid she knows who the government is.

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Title: Re: Federal Government Marine Reserve
Post by pjb05 on Nov 18th, 2012 at 8:18am
So we are the 'world leader'! In other words we lead the world in gullability in going down this path. Note the largest park is in the Coral Sea, which the US based Pew Tust heaviliy campaigned for. When asked why Pew hasn't agitated for such a park in the the Gulf Of Mexico they said it would be too damaging for the US economy!

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