Abbott's support is collapsing

and

Liberals today continued their slide (primary ~ newspoll)

Are the two connected. Is Abbott dragging down the Lib primary vote?

http://resources.news.com.au/files/2012/06/12/1226392/417502-120612-newspoll.pdf

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:13pm:

Abbott's support is collapsing and Liberals today continued their slide (primary ~ newspoll) Are the two connected. Is Abbott dragging down the Lib primary vote?

It is a reflection on the $5billion labor spent to buy a couple of % of votes. Pretty expensive.

51 ... 45 ...46 ...  44


take 3 of each for gnats

48 ... 42 ... 43 ... 41


Been sliding since the end of April. Perhaps people are starting to realising the carbon tax spin from abbott has been a lie.

And the tide continues to turn against Abbott


El Nino tipped to form in spring


Australia looks set to experience the same weather conditions this year that were responsible for the nation's last devastating drought in the summer of 2009.

The weather bureau say all of its models are pointing to an El Nino weather system forming in October.

Typically, El Nino weather events mean drier conditions across Australia, and despite the plentiful rain along the east coast over the past week, there are still large areas of the country that still have below-average rainfall.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-12/formidable-el-nino-system-to-form-in-spring/4066796

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:51pm:

And the tide continues to turn against Abbott El Nino tipped to form in spring Australia looks set to experience the same weather conditions this year that were responsible for the nation's last devastating drought in the summer of 2009. The weather bureau say all of its models are pointing to an El Nino weather system forming in October. Typically, El Nino weather events mean drier conditions across Australia, and despite the plentiful rain along the east coast over the past week, there are still large areas of the country that still have below-average rainfall. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-12/formidable-el-nino-system-to-form-in-spring/4066796

Hey deadhorse. Keep off the crank dude. You are getting stranger and less coherent.

Abbott's carbon policy is a dud scheme. It will be revealed as voters turn their attention to Australia going back into drought.

Abbott has dragged the Libs into a corner. As Abbott's support continues to drop, so will Libs.

Because Abbott is holding the Libs back.

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 11:14pm:

Abbott's carbon policy is a dud scheme. It will be revealed as voters turn their attention to Australia going back into drought. Abbott has dragged the Libs into a corner. As Abbott's support continues to drop, so will Libs. Because Abbott is holding the Libs back.

Pretty hard sell if you are going to go into it expecting the dumb Australians not to know what an el nino is.

So is it Abbott dragging the Lib's primary vote down?

Or is it something else?


nearly 15% in about six weeks.

Why do the Greens and ALP call Bio Ethics and a Permanent Communist Purge, economy based on 19th century philosophy progressive?

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:14am:

Why do the Greens and ALP call Bio Ethics and a Permanent Communist Purge, economy based on 19th century philosophy progressive?

Because tuesday is the four month of the year.

Surely Liberal supporters must have thought this out ... why is your support base collapsing?

Is it Abbott, or is it something else.

It's definitely an interesting question that calls for an answer

The fact is according to the latest Morgan poll the LNP Primary vote is LOWER than it was at the last Federal Election, which as we'll all remember they did not win.

Given fewer people are now inclined to give their number 1 to the LNP where do they think they're picking up enough preferences to get them over the line on a 2PP basis?

Food for thought

It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss.

So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election.

____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 3:42pm:

It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss. So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election.

We can only hope ...

____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 3:42pm:

It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss. So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election.

They are in some amazing denial. Several of us have said repeatedly that we'd consider voting for the coalition but never under Abbott but they don't want to hear it. It's good to see some numbers supporting that position.

Gist wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 3:42pm: It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss. So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election. They are in some amazing denial. Several of us have said repeatedly that we'd consider voting for the coalition but never under Abbott but they don't want to hear it. It's good to see some numbers supporting that position.

I am in one of the most marginal Lib held seats. Under Abbott, no chance of my preference ~ under Turnbull, at least I would give libs a fair hearing before deciding.

Abbott's extremism and ignorance is holding the Libs back.

____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 4:22pm:

Gist wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 4:17pm: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 3:42pm: It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss. So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election. They are in some amazing denial. Several of us have said repeatedly that we'd consider voting for the coalition but never under Abbott but they don't want to hear it. It's good to see some numbers supporting that position. I am in one of the most marginal Lib held seats. Under Abbott, no chance of my preference ~ under Turnbull, at least I would give libs a fair hearing before deciding. Abbott's extremism and ignorance is holding the Libs back.

lol too bad for you. We all know you would love to give the liberals your preference  ;D

____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 4:22pm:

Gist wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 4:17pm: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 3:42pm: It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss. So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election. They are in some amazing denial. Several of us have said repeatedly that we'd consider voting for the coalition but never under Abbott but they don't want to hear it. It's good to see some numbers supporting that position. I am in one of the most marginal Lib held seats. Under Abbott, no chance of my preference ~ under Turnbull, at least I would give libs a fair hearing before deciding. Abbott's extremism and ignorance is holding the Libs back.

You don't honestly expect anyone to believe you, do you?

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 8:01pm:

____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 4:22pm: Gist wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 4:17pm: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 3:42pm: It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss. So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election. They are in some amazing denial. Several of us have said repeatedly that we'd consider voting for the coalition but never under Abbott but they don't want to hear it. It's good to see some numbers supporting that position. I am in one of the most marginal Lib held seats. Under Abbott, no chance of my preference ~ under Turnbull, at least I would give libs a fair hearing before deciding. Abbott's extremism and ignorance is holding the Libs back. lol too bad for you. We all know you would love to give the liberals your preference  ;D

I understand abbott is scared of Green voter preferences and so his sycophants must follow.

Abbott on the other hand would be out to win votes.

That is why so many Liberals are realising Abbott is holding the party back.

Like he did after the last election.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 8:03pm:

____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 4:22pm: Gist wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 4:17pm: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 3:42pm: It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss. So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election. They are in some amazing denial. Several of us have said repeatedly that we'd consider voting for the coalition but never under Abbott but they don't want to hear it. It's good to see some numbers supporting that position. I am in one of the most marginal Lib held seats. Under Abbott, no chance of my preference ~ under Turnbull, at least I would give libs a fair hearing before deciding. Abbott's extremism and ignorance is holding the Libs back. You don't honestly expect anyone to believe you, do you?

Why would I lie.

Turnbull is a moderate, Abbott is an extremist, negative and a divider.

Moderate Liberals have a pass of being humane, being ethical, and arguing their point in mature tones.

Malcolm Turnbull supports the Carbon Tax, he is Manchurian...bought and Paid for property.

____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 9:03pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 8:03pm: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 4:22pm: Gist wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 4:17pm: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 3:42pm: It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss. So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election. They are in some amazing denial. Several of us have said repeatedly that we'd consider voting for the coalition but never under Abbott but they don't want to hear it. It's good to see some numbers supporting that position. I am in one of the most marginal Lib held seats. Under Abbott, no chance of my preference ~ under Turnbull, at least I would give libs a fair hearing before deciding. Abbott's extremism and ignorance is holding the Libs back. You don't honestly expect anyone to believe you, do you? Why would I lie. Turnbull is a moderate, Abbott is an extremist, negative and a divider. Moderate Liberals have a pass of being humane, being ethical, and arguing their point in mature tones.

You remind me of the story about the turtle and the scorpion...

So you have no interest in discussing the topic ... that Lib's primary in trending down ... around 15% in six weeks.

That is a big drop so close to the carbon price coming in.

Not a good sign when Abbott has risked everything on his carbon tax scare campaign. Perhaps voters are not as dumb as Abbott has taken them for.

Shouldn't the major crime squad be handling this fraud?

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 10:18pm:

Shouldn't the major crime squad be handling this fraud?

Sorted

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