http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/national/13917367/nsw-budget-prepares-for-carbon-bill/

Treasury figures show the average NSW hospital can expect to face a $120,000 annual carbon bill when the $23-a-tonne carbon price kicks in on July 1.

The average local public school will have to pay an extra $9000 a year on power bills, News Limited reports.

The new modelling of the carbon tax impact on government services included in Tuesday's state budget - based on federal modelling that assumes a "cost pass through rate" of about nine per cent for electricity - shows NSW Health would have a $106 million carbon cost over the four-year forward estimates.

The education department would have a four-year liability of $77 million.

RailCorp would pay an extra $57 million over four years and State Transit would pay an extra $1 million a year to run the city's buses, according to News Limited.

Every services in the economy uses electricity - therefore will be hit by the carbon tax

And how much is Gillard giving us in compensation?

Austudy have just received $192 a year in compo - you reckon this will be enough?

macca its all in a good cause .. saving the world..

as a matter of fact I havent heard that much about the GW CLIMATE CHANGE.. for a while..

all those in favor of it have dropped off the boards.. and talking of dropping off..

Bob Brown the biggest advocate for CLIMATE CHANGE>. and where is he?????

YES THATS RIGHT... 'GONE'

I am shocked to be honest as after the 1st of July we should start seeing a huge difference to GW...

thyat mean it will get colder in ACT doesnt it.. thanks!!! :P  -4 aint funny

Compensation is ripped out of the economy, by Abbott, then electricity continues to rise with no respite.

What then denialists?

Abbott is happy to force up the cost of living?

____ wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:03am:

Compensation is ripped out of the economy, by Abbott, then electricity continues to rise with no respite. What then denialists? Abbott is happy to force up the cost of living?

Because we will rip out the carbon tax

____ wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:03am:

Compensation is ripped out of the economy, by Abbott, then electricity continues to rise with no respite. What then denialists? Abbott is happy to force up the cost of living?

Compo will not be necessary when the carbon tax is abolished. No tax means no need for compo. Simple as that!

This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:22am:

This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax. SOB

How you figured?

Maqqa wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:04am:

____ wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:03am: Compensation is ripped out of the economy, by Abbott, then electricity continues to rise with no respite. What then denialists? Abbott is happy to force up the cost of living? Because we will rip out the carbon tax

How. If electricity prices don't go down within a month, will the neocons call an snap election.

When electricity and food keep rising, yet pensioners lose cash out of their pensions ... workers have to pay more tax and lose wage rises. Will your lot admit you support higher cost of living pressures.

____ wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:26am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:04am: ____ wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:03am: Compensation is ripped out of the economy, by Abbott, then electricity continues to rise with no respite. What then denialists? Abbott is happy to force up the cost of living? Because we will rip out the carbon tax How. If electricity prices don't go down within a month, will the neocons call an snap election. When electricity and food keep rising, yet pensioners lose cash out of their pensions ... workers have to pay more tax and lose wage rises. Will your lot admit you support higher cost of living pressures.

Repealing Carbon Tax won't reduce the number of homosexuals either - but we all live with that fact so should you

Maqqa wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:26am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:22am: This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax. SOB How you figured?

Because the electricity prices have gone up every single bill since they were privatised. They will continue to do so. This carbon tax is a brilliant excuse to put them up even more. The govt released figures of how much they will actually be effected by carbon tax. Anything above that is more greed.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:30am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:26am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:22am: This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax. SOB How you figured? Because the electricity prices have gone up every single bill since they were privatised. They will continue to do so. This carbon tax is a brilliant excuse to put them up even more. The govt released figures of how much they will actually be effected by carbon tax. Anything above that is more greed. SOB

A large part of the problem is that under successive Labor governments in NSW, electricity infrastructure was left to decay due to neglect and is now badly in need of repairs and upgrades. These are things that will cost an enormous amount of money. Had Labor not been so self-obssessed while in office, things may be different.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:30am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:26am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:22am: This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax. SOB How you figured? Because the electricity prices have gone up every single bill since they were privatised. They will continue to do so. This carbon tax is a brilliant excuse to put them up even more. The govt released figures of how much they will actually be effected by carbon tax. Anything above that is more greed. SOB

Has CPI increased?

The carbon tax will be passed on - that's a fact

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:08am:

____ wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:03am: Compensation is ripped out of the economy, by Abbott, then electricity continues to rise with no respite. What then denialists? Abbott is happy to force up the cost of living? Compo will not be necessary when the carbon tax is abolished. No tax means no need for compo. Simple as that!

So Tony will be cutting pensions? So Tony will be increasing income tax?

Maqqa wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:32am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:30am: Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:26am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:22am: This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax. SOB How you figured? Because the electricity prices have gone up every single bill since they were privatised. They will continue to do so. This carbon tax is a brilliant excuse to put them up even more. The govt released figures of how much they will actually be effected by carbon tax. Anything above that is more greed. SOB Has CPI increased? The carbon tax will be passed on - that's a fact

Where did I say it wouldn't?

SOB

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:32am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:30am: Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:26am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:22am: This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax. SOB How you figured? Because the electricity prices have gone up every single bill since they were privatised. They will continue to do so. This carbon tax is a brilliant excuse to put them up even more. The govt released figures of how much they will actually be effected by carbon tax. Anything above that is more greed. SOB A large part of the problem is that under successive Labor governments in NSW, electricity infrastructure was left to decay due to neglect and is now badly in need of repairs and upgrades. These are things that will cost an enormous amount of money. Had Labor not been so self-obssessed while in office, things may be different.

your not trying to imply that ALP didn't do enough on infrastructure spending are you?  need I remind you that when Howard was removed the country was approx. $100 billion behind in infrastructure spending .... glass houses and all that .... theres always the argument that they could have done more ..... but at least they did something .. Howard did sweat bugger ALL in comparison when it came to infrastructure spending...

John Smith wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 10:42am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:32am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:30am: Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:26am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:22am: This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax. SOB How you figured? Because the electricity prices have gone up every single bill since they were privatised. They will continue to do so. This carbon tax is a brilliant excuse to put them up even more. The govt released figures of how much they will actually be effected by carbon tax. Anything above that is more greed. SOB A large part of the problem is that under successive Labor governments in NSW, electricity infrastructure was left to decay due to neglect and is now badly in need of repairs and upgrades. These are things that will cost an enormous amount of money. Had Labor not been so self-obssessed while in office, things may be different. your not trying to imply that ALP didn't do enough on infrastructure spending are you?  need I remind you that when Howard was removed the country was approx. $100 billion behind in infrastructure spending .... glass houses and all that .... theres always the argument that they could have done more ..... but at least they did something .. Howard did sweat bugger ALL in comparison when it came to infrastructure spending...

and oft-repeated and thoroughly fraudulent claim. and power infrastructure is STATE owned - not federal. Same applies to hospitals and schools.  ALL state owned and for most of the last 15 years LABOR-run.

try again.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 11:22am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:42am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:32am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:30am: Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:26am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:22am: This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax. SOB How you figured? Because the electricity prices have gone up every single bill since they were privatised. They will continue to do so. This carbon tax is a brilliant excuse to put them up even more. The govt released figures of how much they will actually be effected by carbon tax. Anything above that is more greed. SOB A large part of the problem is that under successive Labor governments in NSW, electricity infrastructure was left to decay due to neglect and is now badly in need of repairs and upgrades. These are things that will cost an enormous amount of money. Had Labor not been so self-obssessed while in office, things may be different. your not trying to imply that ALP didn't do enough on infrastructure spending are you?  need I remind you that when Howard was removed the country was approx. $100 billion behind in infrastructure spending .... glass houses and all that .... theres always the argument that they could have done more ..... but at least they did something .. Howard did sweat bugger ALL in comparison when it came to infrastructure spending... and oft-repeated and thoroughly fraudulent claim. and power infrastructure is STATE owned - not federal. Same applies to hospitals and schools.  ALL state owned and for most of the last 15 years LABOR-run. try again.

You mean the states that were squeezed dry year after year by Howard so that Costello could stand up each budget night pimping and preening, to tell us what a great job he'd done stuffing cash up a mattress?? Maybe if Costello had actually given the states some of that cash they could have spent it on infrastructure - kinda like what is happening now.

Gist wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 11:33am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 11:22am: John Smith wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:42am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:32am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:30am: Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:26am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:22am: This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax. SOB How you figured? Because the electricity prices have gone up every single bill since they were privatised. They will continue to do so. This carbon tax is a brilliant excuse to put them up even more. The govt released figures of how much they will actually be effected by carbon tax. Anything above that is more greed. SOB A large part of the problem is that under successive Labor governments in NSW, electricity infrastructure was left to decay due to neglect and is now badly in need of repairs and upgrades. These are things that will cost an enormous amount of money. Had Labor not been so self-obssessed while in office, things may be different. your not trying to imply that ALP didn't do enough on infrastructure spending are you?  need I remind you that when Howard was removed the country was approx. $100 billion behind in infrastructure spending .... glass houses and all that .... theres always the argument that they could have done more ..... but at least they did something .. Howard did sweat bugger ALL in comparison when it came to infrastructure spending... and oft-repeated and thoroughly fraudulent claim. and power infrastructure is STATE owned - not federal. Same applies to hospitals and schools.  ALL state owned and for most of the last 15 years LABOR-run. try again. You mean the states that were squeezed dry year after year by Howard so that Costello could stand up each budget night pimping and preening, to tell us what a great job he'd done stuffing cash up a mattress?? Maybe if Costello had actually given the states some of that cash they could have spent it on infrastructure - kinda like what is happening now.

I think you mean the states that had real INCREASES in funds every yeasr and have demonstrated a spectacular inability to manage it. yes, the states got REAL INCREASES in funding - not squeezed. PLUS 4 of them also got vastly increased mining royalties and still ran deficits. and all labor-run.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 11:22am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:42am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:32am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:30am: Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:26am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:22am: This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax. SOB How you figured? Because the electricity prices have gone up every single bill since they were privatised. They will continue to do so. This carbon tax is a brilliant excuse to put them up even more. The govt released figures of how much they will actually be effected by carbon tax. Anything above that is more greed. SOB A large part of the problem is that under successive Labor governments in NSW, electricity infrastructure was left to decay due to neglect and is now badly in need of repairs and upgrades. These are things that will cost an enormous amount of money. Had Labor not been so self-obssessed while in office, things may be different. your not trying to imply that ALP didn't do enough on infrastructure spending are you?  need I remind you that when Howard was removed the country was approx. $100 billion behind in infrastructure spending .... glass houses and all that .... theres always the argument that they could have done more ..... but at least they did something .. Howard did sweat bugger ALL in comparison when it came to infrastructure spending... and oft-repeated and thoroughly fraudulent claim. and power infrastructure is STATE owned - not federal. Same applies to hospitals and schools.  ALL state owned and for most of the last 15 years LABOR-run. try again.

I never mentioned power infrastructure .. i said it was rich to complain of labor not doing enough on infrastructure spending when the libs did fck all for so long .... compehension an issue for you is it?

John Smith wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 4:03pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 11:22am: John Smith wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:42am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:32am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:30am: Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:26am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:22am: This is because of greedy power providers not so much the carbon tax. SOB How you figured? Because the electricity prices have gone up every single bill since they were privatised. They will continue to do so. This carbon tax is a brilliant excuse to put them up even more. The govt released figures of how much they will actually be effected by carbon tax. Anything above that is more greed. SOB A large part of the problem is that under successive Labor governments in NSW, electricity infrastructure was left to decay due to neglect and is now badly in need of repairs and upgrades. These are things that will cost an enormous amount of money. Had Labor not been so self-obssessed while in office, things may be different. your not trying to imply that ALP didn't do enough on infrastructure spending are you?  need I remind you that when Howard was removed the country was approx. $100 billion behind in infrastructure spending .... glass houses and all that .... theres always the argument that they could have done more ..... but at least they did something .. Howard did sweat bugger ALL in comparison when it came to infrastructure spending... and oft-repeated and thoroughly fraudulent claim. and power infrastructure is STATE owned - not federal. Same applies to hospitals and schools.  ALL state owned and for most of the last 15 years LABOR-run. try again. I never mentioned power infrastructure .. i said it was rich to complain of labor not doing enough on infrastructure spending when the libs did fck all for so long .... compehension an issue for you is it?

so now you want to be able to use a general term like 'infrasructure' and when your argument is beaten choose to redefine what you meant instead of what you said?

try again but this time with a define and credible argument. Quite simply, infrastructure was not run down by Howard. Quite the contrary. Road building for example had a significant increase in real terms. and most infrastructure is built by the states wher were given extra money but blew it all and ended up in even deeper debt. and ALL of them were labor run states. Sound familiar? its the labor way.

Maqqa wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 9:30am:

____ wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:26am: Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:04am: ____ wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 9:03am: Compensation is ripped out of the economy, by Abbott, then electricity continues to rise with no respite. What then denialists? Abbott is happy to force up the cost of living? Because we will rip out the carbon tax How. If electricity prices don't go down within a month, will the neocons call an snap election. When electricity and food keep rising, yet pensioners lose cash out of their pensions ... workers have to pay more tax and lose wage rises. Will your lot admit you support higher cost of living pressures. Repealing Carbon Tax won't reduce the number of homosexuals either - but we all live with that fact so should you

maqqa has nada lol!!  :D :D