WAYNE Swan has labelled "deplorable" a full-page advertisement taken out in Asian newspapers by environmental groups urging readers not to invest in Australia.

The ad in the Asian Financial Times headed "Don't sink your profits into the Great Barrier Reef" warns that the expansion of the coal-mining industry leading to more coal ships travelling through the reef is opposed by most Australians.

"I think that's deplorable and it should be condemned, and I do condemn it in the strongest possible terms," said the Treasurer.

"The government is committed to responding to the resources industry, which is why we are also determined to put in place strict environmental safeguards.

"We've had to pull the Queensland government into line on that question this week, we certainly don't need to see this sort of obnoxious behaviour from Greenpeace."

The ad is co-sponsored by Greenpeace, Banktrack and GetUp! Australia and is authorised by GetUp! director Simon Sheikh.

The advertisement comes at the end of a week in which the Queensland and federal governments were at loggerheads over whether there had been a proper environmental assessment of the $6.2 billion Alpha Coal project, which is 80 per cent owned by Indian company GVK and the rest by Gina Rinehart's Hancock Coal.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/wayne-swan-slams-greenpeace-advertisement-about-coal-ships-on-great-barrier-reef/story-fn59niix-1226389109780

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Must make you proud to be a member of the loony Greens, eh?

Its not good. You dont have to be a "greenie" to not want the reef destroyed. Why dont the miners just go around it? They have trains.

SOB

So Swan condemns the ad by Greenpeace, but not the destruction of our Great Barrier Reef. Gotta love his form.

woody seems to change his mind with the wind on Greenpeace.

Greenpeace have also openly criticised the "deplorable and dangerous" actions of Sea Shepherd and how "Greenpeace in no way support the violence on the high seas perpetrated by Mr Watson".

Our mate Martin was quite upset about that.
Now he likes them....

Kiwis eh?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 3:58pm:

Must make you proud to be a member of the loony Greens, eh?

Why would anyone invest in Australian tourism, so to cash in the 100 million Chinese tourists expected to spend out of China each year in the near future.

Why invest and have coal pollution kill that investment.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 3:58pm:

Must make you proud to be a member of the loony Greens, eh?

So you don't support the tourist industry which is in itself a billion dollar industry and will last a lot longer than the coal industry. Do you think long term at all? Do you think at all?

lol greens, great minds think alike.

Do you think the Chinese tourists will mind seeing the dead turtles and Dugongs floating around and the endless fleet of freighters along the seafront?

Can we be environmentally friendly as we bugger the environment?

The government needs to decide if they are willing to destroy one of our major assets for the sake of the mining industry. If they decide yes, it's worth it, then take the Great Barrier Reef off the World Heritage list and go ahead and ruin it.

Can Gina afford to build a train line down to one of the existing ports? If not bugger off Gina and let us enjoy our natural beauty.

Pretty hypocritical to implement the "carbon tax" and destroy the reef @ the same time.

SOB

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:15pm:

lol greens, great minds think alike. .

A guy who admits he never finished school in NZ and was in and out of care facilities.
And an elderly lady who needed to take up a manual labour low skill role in her twilight years.

Yep there's some Albert Einstein minds on display there.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 3:58pm: Must make you proud to be a member of the loony Greens, eh? So you don't support the tourist industry which is in itself a billion dollar industry and will last a lot longer than the coal industry. Do you think long term at all? Do you think at all?

so it is all about MONEY... LOL.. might have guessed..

me I am in favor of saving the reef.. not for me not for bloody tourists not for shipping.. but for the animals that live and breath there.. it was there long before me.  would like it to be there long after me.. and I would like these creatures to be there long after me as well.

but save it  for money!!!!! how gross is that?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:22pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:15pm: lol greens, great minds think alike. . A guy who admits he never finished school in NZ and was in and out of care facilities. And an elderly lady who needed to take up a manual labour low skill role in her twilight years. Yep there's some Albert Einstein minds on display there.

All those things have a lot of bearing on one's intelligence and insight, don't they?

Statements like that make you look like the one with low intelligence.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:22pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:15pm: lol greens, great minds think alike. . A guy who admits he never finished school in NZ and was in and out of care facilities. And an elderly lady who needed to take up a manual labour low skill role in her twilight years. Yep there's some Albert Einstein minds on display there.

andrei you dont have to be public school or Einstein to discuss something like this.. and you dont need to be rude either..

everyone is entitled to their opinion..

if we sat back and let big business walk all over us.. you wouldnt like that either..

we should be asked its Australia heritage after all.


what the answer is I dont pretend to know..

but I am sick of anyone that has a point of view being put down on this forum.. for having it.


disagree by all means but stop being patronising

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:23pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:08pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 3:58pm: Must make you proud to be a member of the loony Greens, eh? So you don't support the tourist industry which is in itself a billion dollar industry and will last a lot longer than the coal industry. Do you think long term at all? Do you think at all? so it is all about MONEY... LOL.. might have guessed.. me I am in favor of saving the reef.. not for me not for bloody tourists not for shipping.. but for the animals that live and breath there.. it was there long before me.  would like it to be there long after me.. and I would like these creatures to be there long after me as well. but save it  for money!!!!! how gross is that?

We were discussing the money aspect of the coal industry, so my counter argument was also about the money aspect of tourism on the reef. Of course I would prefer that we have no industry there, but the tourism industry take good care of it because it's their bread and butter.

You are in favour of the destruction of the reef for the sake of mining cods. Tony is, so you are. I dare you to go against him on this one.

Whilst I believe in AGW I'm finding it harder & harder to continue to advocate for the CT.
WE are exporting more & more of the apparent cause, our whole economy is based on it.

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:23pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:08pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 3:58pm: Must make you proud to be a member of the loony Greens, eh? So you don't support the tourist industry which is in itself a billion dollar industry and will last a lot longer than the coal industry. Do you think long term at all? Do you think at all? so it is all about MONEY... LOL.. might have guessed.. me I am in favor of saving the reef.. not for me not for bloody tourists not for shipping.. but for the animals that live and breath there.. it was there long before me.  would like it to be there long after me.. and I would like these creatures to be there long after me as well. but save it  for money!!!!! how gross is that?

Money seems the motivation of the hard right.

GOOD.  Don't invest in australia, and don't migrate here either.

It seems greenpeace DO do soemthing worthwhile occasionally after all.

I am in agreement with Greenpeace.. :D  ;D  :o  :P  :-?  :'( Keep your foreign investment and business out of Australia you scum!  Go on - Piss off and take Wayne Swan, Gillard, Abbott and the rest of the Queens Anglosphere with you.:P

... wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

GOOD.  Don't invest in australia, and don't migrate here either. It seems greenpeace DO do soemthing worthwhile occasionally after all.

People don't have to be migrants to invest into tourist projects in Australia.

____ wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:38pm:

... wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:36pm: GOOD.  Don't invest in australia, and don't migrate here either. It seems greenpeace DO do soemthing worthwhile occasionally after all. People don't have to be migrants to invest into tourist projects in Australia.

I know, I was suggesting an expansion of their campaign.  I suggest going global with this message. 

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

Whilst I believe in AGW I'm finding it harder & harder to continue to advocate for the CT. WE are exporting more & more of the apparent cause, our whole economy is based on it.

Has been my point from day 0 Smithy.
Welcome to my camp.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:22pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:15pm: lol greens, great minds think alike. . A guy who admits he never finished school in NZ and was in and out of care facilities. And an elderly lady who needed to take up a manual labour low skill role in her twilight years. Yep there's some Albert Einstein minds on display there. All those things have a lot of bearing on one's intelligence and insight, don't they? Statements like that make you look like the one with low intelligence.

Intelligent, well educated people do not tend to be shelf stackers my dear lady.

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:26pm:

disagree by all means but stop being patronising

Patronising is my middle name cods.

I just dislike people such as the aforementioned two folk trying to speak to people like me on the same level.
They are not, they are below me if everyway I can think.

I am sorry if that comes across as arrogant but such is life.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

Whilst I believe in AGW I'm finding it harder & harder to continue to advocate for the CT. WE are exporting more & more of the apparent cause, our whole economy is based on it.

Yes. Which is why WE have to be on the forefront of finding some alternative. The fit would really hit the shan in Australia if we let some other country develop alternative energies and we're then stuck selling product that nobody wants anymore wouldn't it?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:25pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:22pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:15pm: lol greens, great minds think alike. . A guy who admits he never finished school in NZ and was in and out of care facilities. And an elderly lady who needed to take up a manual labour low skill role in her twilight years. Yep there's some Albert Einstein minds on display there. All those things have a lot of bearing on one's intelligence and insight, don't they? Statements like that make you look like the one with low intelligence. Intelligent, well educated people do not tend to be shelf stackers my dear lady.

Oh, I dunno. I've known intelligent, well educated shelf stackers and taxi drivers. I've known some very wealthy, mind numbingly stupid degenerate scum as well.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:25pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:22pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:15pm: lol greens, great minds think alike. . A guy who admits he never finished school in NZ and was in and out of care facilities. And an elderly lady who needed to take up a manual labour low skill role in her twilight years. Yep there's some Albert Einstein minds on display there. All those things have a lot of bearing on one's intelligence and insight, don't they? Statements like that make you look like the one with low intelligence. Intelligent, well educated people do not tend to be shelf stackers my dear lady.

I said I worked in a large department store to pay for my uni fees. You have no idea what my role was, so don't pretend you do.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:26pm: disagree by all means but stop being patronising Patronising is my middle name cods. I just dislike people such as the aforementioned two folk trying to speak to people like me on the same level. They are not, they are below me if everyway I can think. I am sorry if that comes across as arrogant but such is life.

Way below you on the bullsh1t level is about all Walter, you poor deprived sod.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 5:26pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 5:09pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:25pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:22pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:15pm: lol greens, great minds think alike. . A guy who admits he never finished school in NZ and was in and out of care facilities. And an elderly lady who needed to take up a manual labour low skill role in her twilight years. Yep there's some Albert Einstein minds on display there. All those things have a lot of bearing on one's intelligence and insight, don't they? Statements like that make you look like the one with low intelligence. Intelligent, well educated people do not tend to be shelf stackers my dear lady. I said I worked in a large department store to pay for my uni fees. You have no idea what my role was, so don't pretend you do.

Don't bite Pansi. You just encourage him.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

Whilst I believe in AGW I'm finding it harder & harder to continue to advocate for the CT. WE are exporting more & more of the apparent cause, our whole economy is based on it.

Strange isn't it. Cut locally but export more. What is the point of having a carbon tax at all.

why the f*ck are you going to uni when youre like 70 pansi

go to a library its free

JC Denton wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 6:27pm:

why the f*ck are you going to uni when youre like 70 pansi go to a library its free

I do that too. I love learning, there's no better feeling than getting you're assignment back with a HD on it. It's never too late to intellectually improve yourself. The oldest man to graduate in Australia last year was in his nineties, I think. 

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 6:19pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:33pm: Whilst I believe in AGW I'm finding it harder & harder to continue to advocate for the CT. WE are exporting more & more of the apparent cause, our whole economy is based on it. Strange isn't it. Cut locally but export more. What is the point of having a carbon tax at all.

To start restructuring the economy past coal addiction.

Quote:

I love learning

tell me what you have learned so far.

JC Denton wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:00am:

Quote: I love learning tell me what you have learned so far.

Ah! where to start. To tell me what you know would be far simpler and less time consuming.

The day you stop learning is the day you may as well die.

Kat wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 7:49am:

The day you stop learning is the day you may as well die.

True, we are life long learners. It was a silly question. I bet I learn something I didn't already know today, sure hope so.