http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqUuTaK-zMo

These are all words from the Koran, with the names reversed. Imagine if Christians talked like this today! It would be a hate crime.

But these are Koranic verses with only the object of hate changed.

No problem at all for a skilled practitioner of doublethink.

I could take some crazy-looking guy and get him to mistranslate parts of the Bible, and take them out of context too.


Obviously the people who made this video and promote it feel no qualms about dishonesty.


It is good that people see how the Islam haters are liars and distorters.


An example in the video is the translation of the Arabic word for "guardian" in the Quran into "friend"on the video. Highly deceptive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ofru1vNCMM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfoMbg7UfUU






www.loonwatch.com/2009/11/the-churchs-doctrine­-of-perpetual-servitude-was-wo­rse-than-dhimmitude/

www.loonwatch.com/2011/03/warrior-prophet-mose­s-or-muhammad/

www.loonwatch.com/2011/03/the-understanding-ji­had-series-is-islam-more-likel­y-than-other-religions-to-enco­urage-violence/

www.loonwatch c o m/2011/04/jesus-loves-his-enem­ies-and-then-kills-them-all/

www.loonwatch.com/2010/05/do-muslims-want-to-r­eimpose-dhimmitude-or-live-as-­equals/

What do you think of loonwatch Falah?

falah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:44pm:

I could take some crazy-looking guy and get him to mistranslate parts of the Bible, and take them out of context too.

No you couldn't.

The Jew hatred, the Christian hatred  and the infidel hatred by Muslims is never out of context. They are living hatreds, and you are an example of them.

You could not just be indifferent as an Islamist. You must be antagonistic, you must be hostile and bent on ruling or destroying them (us).

If anyone said about Muslims what you and Abu and muslims preachers everywhere do say, they'd be up for islamophobia. But somehow you bvggers are never up for being sworn enemies of western liberal democracy, of the jews, hindus, the tribal African, the tribal Asian, Christians, not to mention your undying bloody animosity towards the Shites and assorted other heretical Muslim.

Your hostility is the single thing that defines you. You are entirely defined by what you are standing against. You are entirely defined, in other words, by your phobias.

Watch that video past the half way mark and you will see yourself, the grinning stirrer, working on discord and spreading animosity and smiling gleefully when he achieves it.

Soren wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:08pm:

Your hostility is the single thing that defines you. You are entirely defined by what you are standing against. You are entirely defined, in other words, by your phobias.

Interesting. Coming from an arch grump and serial moaner - creatively reflexive, old boy. And not a hint of irony either.

Marvellous stuff.

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 10:24pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 10:08pm: Your hostility is the single thing that defines you. You are entirely defined by what you are standing against. You are entirely defined, in other words, by your phobias. Interesting. Coming from an arch grump and serial moaner - creatively reflexive, old boy. And not a hint of irony either. Marvellous stuff.

You mean not a hint of Paki Weaselly Ambiguities?

Islamists are all about their stance against the West. They criticise, denigrate, undermine it. But any criticism of Mohammed, the Koran and Islamists in general is verboten. You publish a Mohammed cartoon, you are going to be hunted down and an attempt will be made on your life. If you quote the Koran and your audience laughs, you will be taken to court.

Free speech applies to Muslims when they can use it against non-Muslims. It decidedly doesn't apply when Islam is criticised.

But being the stupid paki bvgger that you are, that irony escapes you entirely and you get bogged down, as usual, in some weaselly, swivel-eyed nonsense. 

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islamophobia World English Dictionary Islamophobia (ˌɪzlɑːməˈfəʊbɪə) —n      hatred or fear of Muslims or of their politics or culture Islamo'phobic —adj

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/islamophobia

Just so you know the definition.

SOB

I like this clip of the atheist convention in Melbourne, muslims trying out their hate speach as free speach again, wonder if we can spot falah?

Muslims loose!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCfwcd_Ajg4

Adamant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

I like this clip of the atheist convention in Melbourne, muslims trying out their hate speach as free speach again, wonder if we can spot falah? Muslims loose! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCfwcd_Ajg4

Burn in hell, burn in hell!

ZZ Tops, ZZ Tops!

Burn in hell, burn in hell!

ZZ Tops, ZZ Tops!

Islamophobia is prevalent above all among Muslims”
Felix Strüning9. April 20123

CT-Interview with German Islam-critic Udo Ulfkotte on Hitler, Mohammed and the financial crisis as a solution




Udo Ulfkotte with the Bavarian interior minister and panegyrist at that time, Günter Beckstein (right), concerning the award of the civic prize of the Annette Bartheit Foundation, 2003

He is to a certain extent the inventor of the Islam-critical fact book and probably the most provocative opponent of political Islam in Germany: Udo Ulfkotte explains in a Citizen Times interview why Islamophobia is prevalent above all among Muslims; German Islam critics are changing nothing; what Mohammed and Hitler had in common; and what he would urgently advise Interior Minister Friedrich (German original, tanks for translation by JLH at Gates of Vienna).

Citizen Times: Mr. Ulfkotte, almost exactly nine years ago your first book on Islam, The War in our Cities, appeared. How has the debate about Islam in Germany developed since then?

Udo Ulfkotte: We have given up more and more since then. Let us leave my books and look at Thilo Sarrazin. Then we just have to accept the fact: Even when an author sells far more than a million books on the subject, is quoted in all the media — absolutely nothing changes. We are today where we were before Sarrazin. No. We are getting worse and worse in the realm of political correctness. The debate on Islam is not developing. It is repeatedly choked off. Quite slowly we are choking ourselves by doing that.

Citizen Times: A broad front of so-called bias researchers has arisen specifically in reference to that, who classify Islam criticism as Islamophobia. What is there to this charge?

Udo Ulfkotte: It always makes me chuckle, when this idea is mentioned. Islamophobia comes from Islamic territory. Most Muslims suffer from it. The Sunni Muslims have an Islamophobia about the Shi’ite Muslims, the Shi’ite Muslims have an Islamophobia about the Muslims of the Ahmadiyya, and so on. In the 17 years when I lived largely among Muslims in Islamic countries, I was able to study this Islamophobia.

I know of no other group of people in he world who are so shaped by Islamophobia as are the Muslims. And I do not know of one single bias researcher who has ever dealt with that. That, too, is choked off. So it is not at all a question of Islamophobia, but of political correctness. Something is being hammered into the heads of the stupid Germans. And the really stupid ones actually believe it.

Citizen Times: How do you see the various actors in the Islam-critical scene in Germany in its broadest sense — from the PRO movement to organizations like BPE?

Udo Ulfkotte: They are moving nothing, except themselves. There is not one group in this area which, soberly regarded, could move or has moved anything. That is not a reproach, but a finding of fact. The actors are interchangeable and random. They have no charisma or they would be further along in this arena. The vacuum is there. But no one is in sight to fill it. That was exactly the case in the Netherlands — until Wilders. Then everything happened very quickly.

Citizen Times: Let’s talk straight. What is Islam — religion, culture or political ideology?

Udo Ulfkotte: You said it exactly. Islam is religion and political ideology and culture. But it is also an economic model, a judicial system, a political order and a social model. Islam is therefore not just a religion.

Regarded seriously, the founder of Islam, Mohammed, did what Adolf Hitler did in the past century to win power. What Mein Kampf is to Adolf Hitler, the Koran is to Muslims. A neutral reader will find there more than 200 passages with calls to battle against infidels. This devilish concoction, the Koran, should be on the Index, like Mein Kampf. Mohammed and Adolf Hitler are alike in many ways.

In the city of Yathrib, now called Medina, Mohammed beheaded more than 500 Jews. More wouldn’t have been possible. At that time, there were no longer any male Jews in Yathrib. The Nazi ideology and Islam are very similar. It was not for no reason that the leaders of Islam formed their own Islamic SS brigades to support Hitler in his genocidal campaign against the Jews. Allah’s green Nazis are being courted by today’s policies. An irony of world history.

Citizen Times: Assuming that the office of Interior Minister Friedrich should call and ask for your advice…What three specific steps would you recommend for immediate implementation?

Udo Ulfkotte: I would tell him the truth. Time is working against him with furious speed, and against all the political parties represented in the Bundestag. For now, forget Islam and the problems we have with Muslims. I personally am no longer afraid of that, and I am no longer going to try to change anything in the political arena. For the pendulum of history will soon be swinging back in the other direction. For a very simple reason. The government bankruptcies everywhere in the EU are rolling our way. And we have a financial shield for everyone, but none for ourselves. In the end, we will pay. And I look forward to that. Because the only thing to do will be to dial everything back severely — from pensions to social aid. And then, of course, there will be no more money for the millions of Muslims everywhere who want to be taken care and are living on Hartz-IV funds.

Then the battle over distribution of moneys will start. And that will be the very latest point at which citizens will forget all political correctness and wonder whether they can continue to play social service office to the world, and whether they want to share the fruits of their labor with people who have brought them nothing but expenses. That will circulate.

Citizen Times: A theory which you expressed as early as 2010, borrowing from the US futurologist, Gerald Celente.

Udo Ulfkotte: …correct. At any rate, that is the latest when there will be massive steams of Muslims from Europe to their home countries. That is all predictable. Against this background, these are my three suggestions for Interior Minister Friedrich:

First: Now, today — in accordance with our laws — deport all Muslims who are not employed and do not have German citizenship.

Second: Retroactively withdraw citizenship from all Muslims and deport those who have not proven worthy of having citizenship. The USA has been doing that slowly for a long time, for instance with Islamists and criminals.

And third: Institute comprehensive Islam instruction in German schools. And there, enlighten children on the Nazi-like ideology of Muslims, Anyone who wants to fight Nazis must also fight the ideology of the founder of Islam, Mohammed.

Now, Minister Friedrich will not do all that. So it is foreseeable that Muslims will sometime be driven from Europe. I certainly do not want that. But it is looming on the horizon. History means change. And we will soon see great changes. Simply because we have destroyed our financial basis. Soon the big bang is coming which will also solve our Muslim problem.

Citizen Times: Political scientist Dr. Thomas Tartsch once called you the inventor of the Islam-critical book of facts. In point of fact, you are journalistically pretty busy. What book may we expect this summer?

Udo Ulfkotte: I do not write only under my own name, but I also ghostwrite autobiographies for large publishing houses. And I am presently working on the autobiography of a well-known SPD politician. You understand, I cannot mention his name. In passing, I can say that he shares my opinion about Islam. On television and in public, he speaks quite differently. That gets him votes. In contrast to me, he is a true Muslim-hater. He will seem completely different in a book. He values the fact that he is mentioned in connection with visits to mosques and intercultural conferences as many times as possible in the book. That is the side of him that readers will get. That is how it is with political correctness.


http://www.citizentimes.eu/2012/04/09/islamophobia-is-prevalent-above-all-among-muslims/

Adamant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

I like this clip of the atheist convention in Melbourne, muslims trying out their hate speach as free speach again, wonder if we can spot falah?

I wouldn't waste my time on a bunch of losers who listen to liars.

Their star attraction was a huge liar named Ayaan Hirsi:


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Outspoken Dutch MP admits lying http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/05/16/svAYAAN_narrowweb__300x404,0.jpg AYAAN Hirsi Ali, a Somali-born Dutch politician known for her outspoken criticism of Islam, is leaving parliament and moving to the US after admitting she lied to gain asylum in the Netherlands. Ms Hirsi Ali, 36, sought asylum in the Netherlands in 1992, claiming to be escaping from an arranged marriage. She was granted Dutch citizenship in 1997 and elected to parliament in 2003... http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/outspoken-dutch-mp-admits-lying-to-gain-asylum/2006/05/16/1147545326279.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z82C10myBmM





Adamant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

Muslims loose!

Is the intelligence level of the average Islam-hater? Can't spell simple English words.

Adamant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 3:37pm:

CT-Interview with German Islam-critic Udo Ulfkotte on Hitler, Mohammed and the financial crisis as a solution

Ahh yes, nutty old Udo Ulfkotte.

The guy who came up with the 'fecal jihad' theory  :D :D :D

Udo Ulfkotte and Fecal Jihad: Asymmetric Warfare or Crazy Conspiracy Theory?

Russell Blackford recently wrote a piece on Islamophobia that was reproduced by Richard Dawkins, in which he said,


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“attacks on Islam..made opportunistically..cannot be dismissed out of hand as worthless.”

We responded on Twitter by saying that most attacks can be dismissed as worthless. Exhibit A: Conspiracy Theories.

Now here is a perfect example, from one Dr. Udo Ulfkotte, who thinks the recent E.coli outbreak in Germany is linked to Muslim immigrants’ importation of “fecal jihad.” After this, I don’t know who could compete for “the craziest conspiracy theory of the year award.” (hat tip: Sphinx and Jake)

Ulfkotte: Turkish women’s poor hygiene to blame for E.coli/EHEC outbreak

The writer and “Islam expert” Dr. Udo Ulfkotte has made a nice career for himself in Germany by spreading hate and fear against Muslims.  In a recent interview he fantasized about all the “living space” (Lebensraum) ethnic Germans could have if only they could conduct forced deportation of all the Turkish and Arab people living in Germany. No matter that nearly all of Dr. Ulfkotte’s hateful diatribes are based on lies: he is a much sought-after guest for TV talk shows and discussion panels.

But even Dr. Ulfkotte may have outdone himself with his mostrecent piece on the right-wing Truther site of Kopp Verlag(with thanks to Politblogger). Germany is facing a health crisis due to vegetables tainted with E.coli. Naturally, Udo Ulfkotte seizes the opportunity for yet another attack on immigrants from Turkey:


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Im »Erdbeerland« in Pottenstein und auf mindestens zehn weiteren Erdbeerplantagen erfand man den Hosenzwang, weil Türkinnen, die dort saisonal gearbeitet hatten, bei der Arbeit auf die Erdbeeren uriniert und zwischen den Pflanzen auch noch andere »größere Geschäfte« verrichtet hatten. … Bestimmte Migranten haben eben völlig andere Vorstellungen von Hygiene und der Einhaltung von Hygiene-Richtlinien als wir Europäer.     (In the “strawberry region” in Pottenstein (Austria) and on at least ten other strawberry farms workers are required to wear pants because Turkish women who were working there seasonally were urinating on the strawberries and even defecating among the plants….Certain migrants have a completely different concepts of hygiene than we Europeans.)

Dr. Ulfkotte goes on to describe a “fecal Jihad” being waged by Muslims against Europeans.

Thus far, there is zero evidence that the E.coli outbreak has any connection with strawberries, much less strawberries from Austria.  Authorities believe rather that cucumbers from Spain may be to blame.  But don’t look for a retraction or an apology from Dr. Udo Ulfkotte.  He has never once retracted any of the numerous lies he’s published at Kopp Verlag or elsewhere.

Again, Ulfkotte is free to publish whatever he wishes, even if it’s mostly lies.  What concerns me is that he is viewed by the German media as an “expert” and frequently appears on German television.  They are lending to this fraud credibility he in no way deserves.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/07/udo-ulfkotte-and-fecal-jihad-asymmetric-warfare-or-crazy-conspiracy-theory/

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We responded on Twitter by saying that most attacks can be dismissed as worthless. Exhibit A: Conspiracy Theories.

Falah, isn't it true that you previously took the protocols of the elders of zion seriously?

falah wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 7:47pm:

Crap crap crap

Galah, you have bizarre rituals around sh!t and p!ss - and everything else. Village Turks transported to Germany wouldn't know how to operate mod cons. They are primitive people, aliens dropped into an alien civilisation.

Back in Turkey, Turks are fantastic. Most hospitable and generous. In Europe - WTF? As welcome and fitting as Jews in Mecca during  Hajj.

Is it true that the Koran instructs Muslims to wipe their arse with their bare hand? Is that what the fecal warfare thing is about that Falah brought up?

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:04pm:

Quote: We responded on Twitter by saying that most attacks can be dismissed as worthless. Exhibit A: Conspiracy Theories. Falah, isn't it true that you previously took the protocols of the elders of zion seriously?

Freeliar how do you hope to start a political party when everyone sees what a liar you are?

I never said I take the Protocol of the elders of Zion seriously. I have no way of knowing whether or not is has been fabricated. It does seem to fit in with is going on, but that in itself does not prove that it is authentic. Heck of a coincidence that it does though.

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:19pm:

Is it true that the Koran instructs Muslims to wipe their arse with their bare hand? Is that what the fecal warfare thing is about that Falah brought up?

Freeliar, you really can't help yourself with all the lies can you?

At least it is good that people see how corrupt you Islam-haters are and how nutty any political party started by you would be.

Have you solved the problem of sheep rape in the Netherlands yet? :D :D :D :D

falah wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:20am:

I never said I take the Protocol of the elders of Zion seriously. I have no way of knowing whether or not is has been fabricated. It does seem to fit in with is going on, but that in itself does not prove that it is authentic. Heck of a coincidence that it does though.

"I am not superstitious- but you never know".



(thank god you are Arabs)

falah wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:20am:

freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 9:04pm: Quote: We responded on Twitter by saying that most attacks can be dismissed as worthless. Exhibit A: Conspiracy Theories. Falah, isn't it true that you previously took the protocols of the elders of zion seriously? Freeliar how do you hope to start a political party when everyone sees what a liar you are? I never said I take the Protocol of the elders of Zion seriously. I have no way of knowing whether or not is has been fabricated. It does seem to fit in with is going on, but that in itself does not prove that it is authentic. Heck of a coincidence that it does though.

;D


falah wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:21am:

freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 9:19pm: Is it true that the Koran instructs Muslims to wipe their arse with their bare hand? Is that what the fecal warfare thing is about that Falah brought up? Freeliar, you really can't help yourself with all the lies can you?

Is it true Falah? Is that what your post about fecal warfare was referring to?

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

Is it true Falah? Is that what your post about fecal warfare was referring to?

If it were true wouldn't you have used one of your sock puppets to cut and paste it from one of the anti-islam websites by now?

falah wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 11:32am:

freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:17am: Is it true Falah? Is that what your post about fecal warfare was referring to? If it were true wouldn't you have used one of your sock puppets to cut and paste it from one of the anti-islam websites by now?

It did come up a long time ago, but Abu refused to discuss it then too. There seems to be a lot in the Koran that he refuses to talk about.

Are you deflecting because you don't know the answer, or because you do know?

C'mon! pull your finger out! >:(

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:19pm:

Is it true that the Koran instructs Muslims to wipe their arse with their bare hand? Is that what the fecal warfare thing is about that Falah brought up?

I suppose it's better than using a handful of sand.

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

falah wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:32am: freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:17am: Is it true Falah? Is that what your post about fecal warfare was referring to? If it were true wouldn't you have used one of your sock puppets to cut and paste it from one of the anti-islam websites by now? It did come up a long time ago, but Abu refused to discuss it then too. There seems to be a lot in the Koran that he refuses to talk about. Are you deflecting because you don't know the answer, or because you do know?

Freeliar. Please show us the part of the Quran that says so. There are plenty of Quran translations on the web. If you there is such a verse in the Quran quote it or be known for the Zionist liar that you are.

I am asking you Falah. I know you like to help Christians and Jews out when they forget what they believe, but I don't see it as my place to tell you what you believe.

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 10:00pm:

I am asking you Falah. I know you like to help Christians and Jews out when they forget what they believe, but I don't see it as my place to tell you what you believe.

Freeliar, there is no verse in the Quran thatsays what you have suggested. Some ignorant people may not take my word for it, which is why I asked you to produce the verse if you think that it exists.

You obviously could not produce any such verse, which only demonstrates that your desire to malign Islam is only overtaken by your ignorance.



Freeliar, I am curious as to when you think that Europeans began to use paper to clean themselves after defecating. I am sure you will consider that mass-production of paper occurred recently, and that Arabs produced paper before Europeans.


Paper, originally invented in China, was adopted in the Islamic world, and was eventually introduced to Europe via the Islamic world in the 13th century¹


Paper was first produced in Europe in 1276. Arabs had begun making paper in 751. The Chinese invented paper in 105



¹Burns, Robert I. (1996). "Paper comes to the West, 800−1400". In Lindgren, Uta. Europäische Technik im Mittelalter. 800 bis 1400. Tradition und Innovation (4th ed.). Berlin: Gebr. Mann Verlag. pp. 413–422.

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Freeliar, there is no verse in the Quran thatsays what you have suggested. Some ignorant people may not take my word for it, which is why I asked you to produce the verse if you think that it exists. You obviously could not produce any such verse, which only demonstrates that your desire to malign Islam is only overtaken by your ignorance.

I'll try it a little bit slower this time Falah. I was asking you, not telling you.

Is it in the Hadiths?

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

falah wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:32am: freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:17am: Is it true Falah? Is that what your post about fecal warfare was referring to? If it were true wouldn't you have used one of your sock puppets to cut and paste it from one of the anti-islam websites by now? It did come up a long time ago, but Abu refused to discuss it then too. There seems to be a lot in the Koran that he refuses to talk about. Are you deflecting because you don't know the answer, or because you do know?

Right, I don't dignify such trash with a response.

If you claim it's in hadith or qur'an, then please bring it forth, otherwise put your tail between your legs and scamper back to your hovel.

“A man sprayed a mixture of urine and feces in two supermarkets, a pub and a bookshop in Gloucestershire, a jury at Bristol Crown Court has heard. Sahnoun Daifallah, 42,  a devout muslim of Bibury Road, Gloucester, is alleged to have caused damage estimated at £700,000 last May. Mr Daifallah pleaded not guilty to four charges of contaminating goods and two of damaging property. He also denied possession of material to contaminate goods and possession of an offensive weapon. The court heard he visited the Air Balloon pub near the village of Birdlip on 14 May 2008 where police were called after he asked a barmaid how much it would cost to rape her.”

For article go to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/7906639.stm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIvuyeZaw2Y&feature=player_embedded
A man sprayed a mixture of urine and faeces in two supermarkets, a pub and a bookshop in Gloucestershire, a jury at Bristol Crown Court has heard.

Sahnoun Daifallah, 42, of Bibury Road, Gloucester, is alleged to have caused damage estimated at £700,000 last May.

Mr Daifallah pleaded not guilty to four charges of contaminating goods and two of damaging property.

He also denied possession of material to contaminate goods and possession of an offensive weapon.

The court heard he visited the Air Balloon pub near the village of Birdlip on 14 May 2008 where police were called after he asked a barmaid how much it would cost to rape her.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/gloucestershire/7906639.stm


Two shop-owners were today fined for selling chocolate cake - which had been sprinkled with human faeces.

A horrified customer ate the foul-smelling gateaux but noticed that it didn't taste or smell "quite right" and handed the cake to public health scientists.

The analysts soon established that the sweet treat was covered in faeces and legal proceedings against the shop owners were started.

Shop owners Saeed Hasmi, 25, and Jan Yadgari, 23, were fined £1,500 for selling food unfit for human consumption.

The pair - who ran the Italiano Pizzeria in Roath, Cardiff - admitted the charge but did not say how the chocolate cake was contaminated.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-513621/Shop-owners-sold-chocolate-cake-sprinkled-human-faeces.html#ixzz1ygc94hAP



Sh!t Jihad. The filthy bastards.

Is that the best you can do; a three year-old story about some crazy person.




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The court heard he visited the Air Balloon pub near the village of Birdlip on 14 May 2008 where police were called after he asked a barmaid how much it would cost to rape her.”

Sore One, you do realise that alcohol and fornication are forbidden in Islam?


Islam also forbids poisoning of water supplies even at times of war


Not so prohibited for Jews though:


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Settlers suspected of well attack Israeli police suspect Jewish settlers of poisoning the only water source in a Palestinian village in the West Bank. Residents of Tatwana near Hebron found rotting chicken carcases in their well after four Jewish settlers were seen in the village early on Tuesday morning. Israeli police said they suspected militant Jews from a nearby wildcat settlement outpost called Havat Maon. "No-one has water," said village elder Saber Ehrany, who accused settlers of trying to drive the villagers out. But settlers denied being responsible and blamed the contamination on an "internal tribal fight between the Palestinians". "We are opposed in principle to any kind of violence and to poisoning wells," said their spokesman Yehoshua Mor-Yosef. Settlers have returned several times to the Havat Maon site after Israeli soldiers expelled them. Mr Ehrany said it was common for the settlers to harass and intimidate the residents of Tatwana. "They always do these things to us. They are trying to push us to leave the village," he said. Police spokesman Doron Ben-Amo said it was "unlikely" that the Palestinians would contaminate their own well. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3891531.stm

falah wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 4:30pm:

Is that the best you can do; a three year-old story about some crazy person. Quote: The court heard he visited the Air Balloon pub near the village of Birdlip on 14 May 2008 where police were called after he asked a barmaid how much it would cost to rape her.” Sore One, you do realise that alcohol and fornication are forbidden in Islam?

The 9/11 crazies spent their last evening is a strip club, ogling and sucking down whiskey. Taqiya, innit.

Soren wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

falah wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 4:30pm: Is that the best you can do; a three year-old story about some crazy person. Quote: The court heard he visited the Air Balloon pub near the village of Birdlip on 14 May 2008 where police were called after he asked a barmaid how much it would cost to rape her.” Sore One, you do realise that alcohol and fornication are forbidden in Islam? The 9/11 crazies spent their last evening is a strip club, ogling and sucking down whiskey. Taqiya, innit.

Sure they did... or so the propaganda spinners would have us believe.

If anything that little "seasoning" that was added to the tale makes it even clearer the U.S are absolutely full of bovine faeces. I wouldn't believe a single word those mongrels uttered.

The whole country are liars?

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2012 at 9:33am:

The whole country are liars?

Anyone with half a neuron would've taken that to mean the government, nevermind though, that obviously rules you out.

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 6:47pm: falah wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 4:30pm: Is that the best you can do; a three year-old story about some crazy person. Quote: The court heard he visited the Air Balloon pub near the village of Birdlip on 14 May 2008 where police were called after he asked a barmaid how much it would cost to rape her.” Sore One, you do realise that alcohol and fornication are forbidden in Islam? The 9/11 crazies spent their last evening is a strip club, ogling and sucking down whiskey. Taqiya, innit. Sure they did... or so the propaganda spinners would have us believe. If anything that little "seasoning" that was added to the tale makes it even clearer the U.S are absolutely full of bovine faeces. I wouldn't believe a single word those mongrels uttered.

Well, that's how I feel about your Islamist propaganda - it's just a lot of self-serving shite.
Cross-cultural communication - ain't it great?

http://static.thepeoplescube.com/images/Stop_Islamic_Intimidation2.jpg

Soren wrote on Jul 25^th, 2012 at 11:42pm:

http://static.thepeoplescube.com/images/Stop_Islamic_Intimidation2.jpg

Awww poor little sorrey worrey, are the big bad bearded men intimidating you again?

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 7:23am:

Soren wrote on Jul 25th, 2012 at 11:42pm: http://static.thepeoplescube.com/images/Stop_Islamic_Intimidation2.jpg Awww poor little sorrey worrey, are the big bad bearded men intimidating you again?

Well, they intimidate the press, councils, universities, schools, life savers, everyone they can. The pricks even want to outlaw criticism of Islam. How buggered is that?

When they start killing people over a cartoon it does kind of get your attention.

By their deeds you shall know them.
Now where did I get that from. Makes sense to me. And an non-believer at that.

I wish all these towel heads would piss off.
No one wants them here.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:55pm:

I wish all these towel heads would piss off. No one wants them here.

they are attracted to australia because of the generous welfare they wouldn't get in their own stuffed up countries. But they want to bring all of their baggage with them and dress their women in bullsh.t attire to fraught off any rapists amongst them :(

Hi Nail,
They should never have been allowed to come here in the first place -
they are nothing but trouble makers.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 11:02pm:

Hi Nail, They should never have been allowed to come here in the first place - they are nothing but trouble makers.

they should be made to denounce their religion and burn the Quaran before they set foot in this country. God knows we already have enough religious nutcases in this country :D

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 11:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 11:02pm: Hi Nail, They should never have been allowed to come here in the first place - they are nothing but trouble makers. they should be made to denounce their religion and burn the Quaran before they set foot in this country. God knows we already have enough religious nutcases in this country :D

thelastnail,

A healthy organism cannot be attacked by infection and cancer.        [ <--- this is true. it is, a FACT.]

'The West', today, IS NOT A [morally] HEALTHY 'ORGANISM'.



If the West were morally healthy, then we [as a whole society] would choose to reject a philosophy like ISLAM,
......their would be protests in teh streets, demanding the banishment of ISLAM on these shores, and the expulsion from these shores, of anyone who self declared to be a moslem.

But the majority of the peoples of the West, today, have chosen not to reject the philosophy known as ISLAM.

We have chosen to tolerate a philosophy like ISLAM.

That must tell you something, about the state of 'affairs' within all Western societies ???






thelastnail,

The fact is, that many people [in our Australian society] would rather ban someone like myself, from an internet forum [and i have been gagged, and banned on internet forums], for criticising ISLAM.

And my experience is that even today, the majority of Australians would still rather gag and ban someone, for their criticism of ISLAM, rather than [themselves,] enquire as to [or debate] whether the accusations against ISLAM were true.

Many people just do not want to know.

That is not healthy [for a free society].






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"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."
Karl Popper

"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."
Thomas Mann

Not just tolerate, but embrace. Thousands of Australians, mostly former Christians, embrace Islam each year Yadda, and this is the bee that's buzzing around in your bonnet isn't it?

When you see churches being sold off to Muslim groups to turn into mosques, that's what gets up your nose doesn't it?

When you see churches empty on Sundays, whilst mosques are jam packed every single day of the week, that's what drives you batty, isn't it?

Because your philosophy is almost the same. We have to reject both or accept both.

SOB

Quote:

A healthy organism cannot be attacked by infection and cancer.

Try telling that to the people working at the world trade center on 9/11.
We don't want all these terrorists here.
Is that so hard to understand?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

Quote: A healthy organism cannot be attacked by infection and cancer. Try telling that to the people working at the world trade center on 9/11. We don't want all these terrorists here. Is that so hard to understand?

The terrorists that did that are dead. Gone. Therefore i have to ask who you are talking about.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 8:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2012 at 8:31am: Quote: A healthy organism cannot be attacked by infection and cancer. Try telling that to the people working at the world trade center on 9/11. We don't want all these terrorists here. Is that so hard to understand? The terrorists that did that are dead. Gone. Therefore i have to ask who you are talking about. SOB

OK  - I mean all their mates who have turned up here.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

OK  - I mean all their mates who have turned up here.

Just out of curiosity bobby, are all Christians who come to Australia "the mates of Timothy McVeigh"?

Why the double standard? Why discriminate against one religion in this way and not the other? Is it because you perceive one to be weak and a minority, and therefore easier to pick on? Because I assure you, in reality it's not the case. Just ask soren, he's constantly hounded by the big bad bearded men. We can hold our own  ;D

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 28th, 2012 at 8:40am: Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2012 at 8:31am: Quote: A healthy organism cannot be attacked by infection and cancer. Try telling that to the people working at the world trade center on 9/11. We don't want all these terrorists here. Is that so hard to understand? The terrorists that did that are dead. Gone. Therefore i have to ask who you are talking about. SOB OK  - I mean all their mates who have turned up here.

Who?

SOB

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2012 at 8:46am: OK  - I mean all their mates who have turned up here. Just out of curiosity bobby, are all Christians who come to Australia "the mates of Timothy McVeigh"? Why the double standard? Why discriminate against one religion in this way and not the other? Is it because you perceive one to be weak and a minority, and therefore easier to pick on? Because I assure you, in reality it's not the case. Just ask soren, he's constantly hounded by the big bad bearded men. We can hold our own  ;D

I am sorry but after 9/11 I just don't trust anyone with a beard wearing a towel.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 6:35am:

Not just tolerate, but embrace. Thousands of Australians, mostly former Christians, embrace Islam each year

Yeah, it's either that or joining the Communist Party. There will always be a few thousand disaffected people.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 6:35am:

When you see churches being sold off to Muslim groups to turn into mosques, that's what gets up your nose doesn't it?

Yeah, Muslim immigrants. They get up people's noses.
The natives like you are the commies of yesteryear and the black shirts of the year before that. You signed up to Islam for political and psychological reasons, not because of some spiritual quest.
I have not seen a single post from you about Islam that was not entirely political.

Soren wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 9:17pm:

The natives like you are the commies of yesteryear and the black shirts of the year before that. You signed up to Islam for political and psychological reasons, not because of some spiritual quest. I have not seen a single post from you about Islam that was not entirely political.

There really is no difference between religion and politics, both are concerned with organising the affairs of humanity.

The "spiritual quest" you speak of is what the secularist movement relegated Christianity to in Europe, in order to strip it of all meaning in people's life, and render it useless. It became merely a collection of rituals and "golden rules" that offer the needy a temporary abode of refuge in times of crisis in their lives.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 10:31pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 28th, 2012 at 9:17pm: The natives like you are the commies of yesteryear and the black shirts of the year before that. You signed up to Islam for political and psychological reasons, not because of some spiritual quest. I have not seen a single post from you about Islam that was not entirely political. There really is no difference between religion and politics, both are concerned with organising the affairs of humanity. The "spiritual quest" you speak of is what the secularist movement relegated Christianity to in Europe, in order to strip it of all meaning in people's life, and render it useless. It became merely a collection of rituals and "golden rules" that offer the needy a temporary abode of refuge in times of crisis in their lives.

Yeah, there is no 'care of the soul' in Islam. It's all about 'organising' other people's lives.According top god's will.
Except you have no idea of what is god's will because he is not talking to you. You only have an idea of other men's idea of what god's will is.
SO being completely devoid of a personal (ie personally free) spiritual dimension, all you (and a billion other Mohamedans) have is falling in with the dictates of some local mullah or other whose only claim to fame and authority is that he memorised a book.

What that book means - he is no greater authority on that than anyone else who has studied history, philosophy, theology and languages. And since most mullahs have studied no history or philosophy or theology or languages, they are mostly semi-literate peasants like Mohammed or Hilali, who garner authority by the stupidest of stupid demands of Islam - there shall be no questions asked.

That should have made your alarm bells go off - but no.  'Orders must be obeyed at all times' - that appealed to you more than anything else. Order. Discipline. Sacrifice. Fuhrer figure in Mohammed. Storm troopers (jihadis), thousand year reich (ummah) etc, etc.
In 1925 you would have joined the nazi party. Today, it's Islam. You are a Nazi in a night shirt and with a beard.i

Well it's not like Islam is devoid of spiritual activities.

It just doesn't reduce religion down to being some spiritual mumbo jumbo. It's a very practical and relevant belief system.

All your crap about Nazis in night shirts is bollocks and you know it. If anyone around here is a bit of a goose stepper, it's you and your anti-Islamic cohorts. You'd love to load Muslims into ovens and do as your political predecessors did to the Jews, and you think if you rustle up enough propaganda for it, you might just get the masses to consent to it. You're a wannabe goebbels and you know it.

So tell us Abu, how many Jews did Muhammed slaughter?

Oh that's right, they all deserved it, didn't they?

freediver wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 7:22am:

So tell us Abu, how many Jews did Muhammed slaughter? Oh that's right, they all deserved it, didn't they?

how many did "god" slaughter? the entire world except for the ark? Oh thats right they deserved it didnt they.

SOB

Interesting example there spot. Can you tell me the difference between those two? Which one do you think is intended by the doctrine to be an example for people to follow?

freediver wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 7:22am:

So tell us Abu, how many Jews did Muhammed slaughter? Oh that's right, they all deserved it, didn't they?

I don't know of him slaughtering a single Jew.

Can you name a single Jew he slaughtered?

How about you tell me how many goyim the Jews slaughtered in the Bible? How many women, children, old folk and the like?

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 6:35am:

Not just tolerate, but embrace. Thousands of Australians, mostly former Christians, embrace Islam each year Yadda, and this is the bee that's buzzing around in your bonnet isn't it? When you see churches being sold off to Muslim groups to turn into mosques, that's what gets up your nose doesn't it? When you see churches empty on Sundays, whilst mosques are jam packed every single day of the week, that's what drives you batty, isn't it?

Abu,

You credit me with very little faith.

I know very well, that most of mankind will choose your path Abu.

And, that you will all end up, at the same destination.

I can't change their destiny,   .....only God can do that.


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Every day in my prayers i ask God to guide me.

And i trust God.

I feel a great joy, in my trust of God, because i know that i can trust my God.

He is faithful and true.







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Google;
99 names of Allah, the best deceiver



Abu,

As you well know, according to the Koran [i.e. according to Allah himself], Allah is the best deceiver.
[.....in Christian tradition, THAT, is the title of SATAN!! ]

And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.
Koran 3.54





In the Bible, the God of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, is attributed thus;

Job 12:16
With him is strength and wisdom: the deceived and the deceiver are his.

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Yadda wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 28th, 2012 at 6:35am: Not just tolerate, but embrace. Thousands of Australians, mostly former Christians, embrace Islam each year Yadda, and this is the bee that's buzzing around in your bonnet isn't it? When you see churches being sold off to Muslim groups to turn into mosques, that's what gets up your nose doesn't it? When you see churches empty on Sundays, whilst mosques are jam packed every single day of the week, that's what drives you batty, isn't it? Abu, You credit me with very little faith. I know very well, that most of mankind will choose your path Abu.

I am not frightened to die, at the hand of someone like you Abu.

I will die, but i will not die on my knees, before people like yourself.



Revelation 13:1
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2  And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3  And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4  And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5  And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6  And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9  If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10  He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.



Hey Abu,

What does that last verse mean ?

"He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity:...."

LOL




Hint.....

If God owns our souls [i.e. our 'identities'] [AND HE DOES!!], and if God has said [again and again] that our reward will be what we sow [i.e. what we ourselves choose] in this life, then, if in this life, our choice is to enslave other human beings, then who will you be compelled to serve Abu ?

Which Jew, will be YOUR master Abu, in your 'paradise' ?

LOL






Galatians 6:7
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.





Hey Abu,

A question.

What do you think is actually occurring, right now, in this world, in this apparent world ???

i.e.
Why are we here Abu ?

Psalms 110:1
The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

LOL

Have fun Abu [you and your 'brothers'], in your 'mastery', in this world.

And God's joke, is that even knowing this, you and yours cannot help yourselves.

You must, you are compelled, to 'pursue' the 'promise' of your destiny.

LOL !!!

"Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in Hell, and from it they will find no way of escape."
Koran 4.120








Again i say;

God is clever.

Men are dumb.

Send all towel heads with beards to Iran.

Quote:

Not just tolerate, but embrace. Thousands of Australians, mostly former Christians, embrace Islam each year Yadda, and this is the bee that's buzzing around in your bonnet isn't it?

Good riddance I say.  It's one thing being born into Islam, but converting to it is the mark of a deficient person. 

Elvis,

We have the fine example of a Christian here in Yadda, it's quite clear for anyone to see who is deficient (I assume you mean mentally).

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

freediver wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 7:22am: So tell us Abu, how many Jews did Muhammed slaughter? Oh that's right, they all deserved it, didn't they? I don't know of him slaughtering a single Jew. Can you name a single Jew he slaughtered? How about you tell me how many goyim the Jews slaughtered in the Bible? How many women, children, old folk and the like?

You want me to tell you about Islam?

Are you saying he didn't personally kill them, he just ordered someone else to do it? Or are you trying to rewrite history again?

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Elvis, We have the fine example of a Christian here in Yadda, it's quite clear for anyone to see who is deficient (I assume you mean mentally).

Abu,

As a Christian, all i see is the poetic justice, in the form of God's judgement that will come against those, who hate him.

Is that a mental deficiency ?            ;D



Abu,

Moslems define their personal faith, in their declaration, that their desire is, to be a slave of their god.

They will be.     ;D

That, will be their fate.



It just seems to me, to be a fitting fate, for those who [in this life] would seek to enslave all of mankind, to their own authority, to have the tables turned on them, in the afterlife.

'Turning the tables', on moslems.

Eewww!!, i can't think of anything more bitter, to moslem pride.
;D        ;D        ;D


Psalms 28:4
Give them according to their deeds, and according to the wickedness of their endeavours: give them after the work of their hands; render to them their desert.





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2 Timothy 2:11
It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
12  If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


Psalms 110:1
The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.


John 10:35
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

freediver wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 7:22am: So tell us Abu, how many Jews did Muhammed slaughter? Oh that's right, they all deserved it, didn't they? I don't know of him slaughtering a single Jew. Can you name a single Jew he slaughtered? How about you tell me how many goyim the Jews slaughtered in the Bible? How many women, children, old folk and the like?

Which Jew? Name one.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 12:32pm:

Send all towel heads with beards to Iran.

They'll be happy there & so will we.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

Have you read your book? SOB

Well apparently, i have SPOT.





Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 7:28am:

freediver wrote on Jul 29th, 2012 at 7:22am: So tell us Abu, how many Jews did Muhammed slaughter? Oh that's right, they all deserved it, didn't they? how many did "god" slaughter? the entire world except for the ark? Oh thats right they deserved it didnt they. SOB

Hey SPOT,

Well apparently they did.

Genesis 6:5
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
.....
11  The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

And God's judgement came down upon them.




Hey SPOT,

Why do you think that those people [who died in the flood] did not deserve to die ???

Oh yeah, that's right,   .....you are someone who believes that it is wrong to kill MURDERERS, in self defence.
[....e.g. condeming Israelis, for killing moslems who attack and MURDERER Israeli civillians.]

Proverbs 28:4
They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.
5  Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.







Hey SPOT,

"And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

Don't you think that my God will judge mankind today ???

If mankind truly is the creation of God, don't you think that my God has the right to destroy mankind, if men displease him ???

Or do you believe that you [and mankind] are beyond God's grasp and power ?

You [and most men] are in rebellion, against God's will.




Hey SPOT,

Clearly, you 'believe' in what is apparent [...to you!].

But at the same time, you deny the culpability of man, for his wickedness, and claim that there is no consequence for man's poor [and wicked] choices.

To you, that is 'reality'.

It is a lie.





Q.
What is 'wickedness' ???

A.
The breaking of God's laws.

Soren wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqUuTaK-zMo These are all words from the Koran, with the names reversed. Imagine if Christians talked like this today! It would be a hate crime. But these are Koranic verses with only the object of hate changed.

But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one. (Luke 22:36 NASB)

:o :o

Quote:

Don't you think that my God will judge mankind today ??? If mankind truly is the creation of God, don't you think that my God has the right to destroy mankind, if men displease him ???

Thats sounds rather moslem to me - are you moslem?


Quote:

Why do you think that those people [who died in the flood] did not deserve to die ???

Everyone in the world except for that 1 guy and all those animals. All the children and babies. If they were evil wouldn't that be because your god made them that way? What a nasty childish god. A mass murdering god.


Quote:

[....e.g. condeming Israelis, for killing moslems who attack and MURDERER Israeli civillians.]

And now you pass judgement in the name of your mass murdering god  . . .

SOB

---

Hooray someone has got it right!!!

Stop shooting rockets moron!!

:D :D

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 11:46pm:

Well it's not like Islam is devoid of spiritual activities. It just doesn't reduce religion down to being some spiritual mumbo jumbo. It's a very practical and relevant belief system. All your crap about Nazis in night shirts is bollocks and you know it. If anyone around here is a bit of a goose stepper, it's you and your anti-Islamic cohorts. You'd love to load Muslims into ovens and do as your political predecessors did to the Jews, and you think if you rustle up enough propaganda for it, you might just get the masses to consent to it. You're a wannabe goebbels and you know it.

Loading muslims into ovens - you are hamming it up as usual, overacting outrageously.  You identify with the jews when there is a chance to sell a carpet in the bazaar, I mean a chance to show yourself as a victim - but otherwise your hatred towards them is greater than all the Nazis' put together.


Muslims are tolerated in every Western society and enjoy equal individual rights. Not something you can say about non-Muslims in every Muslim country.

Even fellow Muslims are persecuted in Muslim countries, Shia by Sunnis and Sunnis by the Shia, (and that's just the two largest Muslim groupings at each other's throats.)

Islam is all about outward show - which is of course for the benefit of all the other Muslims watching.

BTW, dont sidestep this:

Soren wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 10:53pm:

you have no idea of what is god's will because he is not talking to you. You only have an idea of other men's idea of what god's will is. SO being completely devoid of a personal (ie personally free) spiritual dimension, all you (and a billion other Mohamedans) have is falling in with the dictates of some local mullah or other whose only claim to fame and authority is that he memorised a book. What that book means - he is no greater authority on that than anyone else who has studied history, philosophy, theology and languages. And since most mullahs have studied no history or philosophy or theology or languages, they are mostly semi-literate peasants like Mohammed or Hilali, who garner authority by the stupidest of stupid demands of Islam - there shall be no questions asked. That should have made your alarm bells go off - but no.  'Orders must be obeyed at all times' - that appealed to you more than anything else. Order. Discipline. Sacrifice.

Quote:

Muslims are tolerated in every Western society and enjoy equal individual rights. Not something you can say about non-Muslims in every Muslim country.

As i have said many times now i have lived in muslim countries and nobody bothered me. . . . . what are these restrictions of which you speak?

SOB

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 29^th, 2012 at 11:18pm:

But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one. (Luke 22:36 NASB) :o :o

"34 Jesus answered, “I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me.”
35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?”
“Nothing,” they answered.
36 He said to them, “But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.". 37 It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’[b]; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”
38 The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”
“That’s enough!” he replied.
....

47 While he was still speaking a crowd came up, and the man who was called Judas, one of the Twelve, was leading them. He approached Jesus to kiss him, 48 but Jesus asked him, “Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?”
49 When Jesus’ followers saw what was going to happen, they said, “Lord, should we strike with our swords?”
50 And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear.
51 But Jesus answered, “No more of this!” And he touched the man’s ear and healed him.



Geddit???

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 4:00pm:

Quote: Muslims are tolerated in every Western society and enjoy equal individual rights. Not something you can say about non-Muslims in every Muslim country. As i have said many times now i have lived in muslim countries and nobody bothered me. . . . . what are these restrictions of which you speak? SOB

Read and weep.

http://www.answering-islam.org/NonMuslims/rights.htm

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Non-Muslims

Soren wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 4:10pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 4:00pm: Quote: Muslims are tolerated in every Western society and enjoy equal individual rights. Not something you can say about non-Muslims in every Muslim country. As i have said many times now i have lived in muslim countries and nobody bothered me. . . . . what are these restrictions of which you speak? SOB Read and weep. http://www.answering-islam.org/NonMuslims/rights.htm http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Non-Muslims

So somebody said something. Not all countries with mostly muslims actually have islamic law though. There are the "trouble spots" we all know about but there are countries where it isnt a problem. Funnily enough the ones with the most violence and problems are the ones with western interference.

I tell you who are more dangerous are the hindu kali worshippers.

SOB

Quote:

Funnily enough the ones with the most violence and problems are the ones with western interference.

You sure about that? Or is it just that they are the most hypersensitive to western interference and complain the loudest about not being left to slaughter each other in peace?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

So somebody said something. Not all countries with mostly muslims actually have islamic law though. There are the "trouble spots" we all know about but there are countries where it isnt a problem. Funnily enough the ones with the most violence and problems are the ones with western interference. I tell you who are more dangerous are the hindu kali worshippers. SOB

That IS what you are saying, mother: we should deport all Muslims and sink every bloody boat with Muslims on them the moment they come over the horizon - lest we expose them to our meddlesome Western ways because our ways are harmful to Muslims, Western influence turns them into blood-thirsty maniacs. And when we're done with the Muslims, do the same to the Hindus. That's what you are saying - and you don't even know it.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/rocketback.jpg

All of the claims made in that image are predicated upon a lie.

"YOU... STEAL MY LAND"




It is not your land.

No one has stolen ANYTHING from you.

The land of Israel is not your land.

Jordan is your homeland.

p.s.
You 'Palestinians' are yourselves, the thieves and the murderers.

The Israelis intentionally keep you out of Israel, because you do things like this, in homage to your deity of death....

http://www.israelnewsagency.com/beersheva8.04.jpg




AND SO LONG AS YOU MOSLEMS KEEP ATTACKING ISRAEL, YOU WILL BE KILLED.






The land of Israel is the ancient homeland of the Jewish people.

Everyone knows that.

The Jewish people were dispossessed of their ancient homeland, by moslems, and others.

Everyone knows that.

The Turkish caliphate took possession of and administered what we know as land of Israel [and other lands in the region].

Everyone knows that.

Because of Turkey's involvement in WWI, Turkey lost possession of its external territories [including the land that now constitutes the state of Israel], post WWI.

Everyone knows that.






Q.
Why can't moslems in the nations surrounding Israel, accept that the Jewish people now have their ancient homeland back ?

Q.
Why do moslems insist in persecuting the Jewish people, and denying the Jewish people the right to live in what is their own ancient homeland ?

http://www.protestwarrior.com/nimages/signs/large/pw_sign_22.gif



A.
Coz it is an article of faith in ISLAM that the lands and the possessions of all other peoples, belong to moslems.


"Or have they gods that can guard them from Us? They have no power to aid themselves, nor can they be defended from Us.
...See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Koran 21:43-44


"And He made you [moslems] heirs to their [non-moslem] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things."
Koran 33:27



And moslems [AS ALWAYS] are fighting to take possession of something which is not theirs.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 4:34am:

Quote: Don't you think that my God will judge mankind today ??? If mankind truly is the creation of God, don't you think that my God has the right to destroy mankind, if men displease him ??? Thats sounds rather moslem to me - are you moslem?

No, that is not moslem.






This sounds 'moslem' to me......

Murdering for 'religion'....

"Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #005.059.369



And this....

Murdering for 'religion'....

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260




And this....

Murdering for 'religion'....

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."
ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......A moslem, promoting, justifying, ISLAM's murder of those who do not believe, as they believe.i



Quote:

[quote]Why do you think that those people [who died in the flood] did not deserve to die ???

Everyone in the world except for that 1 guy and all those animals. All the children and babies. If they were evil wouldn't that be because your god made them that way? What a nasty childish god. A mass murdering god.
[/quote]

Do you believe that your life is something precious ?

What about your opinion, is that something precious [important] too ?

What about the opinion, of the being who created you ?i


Quote:

[quote][....e.g. condeming Israelis, for killing moslems who attack and MURDERER Israeli civillians.]

And now you pass judgement in the name of your mass murdering god  . . .

SOB[/quote]


Why are you lefties and 'collectivists' so offended by a simple truth ?

Oh yes,  ......because truth exposes the utter hypocrisy of your 'argument'.


http://www.israelnewsagency.com/beersheva8.04.jpg

Quote:

That IS what you are saying, mother

Of course we know you are an idiot sister. And a hypocrite because i doubt your fairy king wants you to act like that.


Quote:

It is not your land. No one has stolen ANYTHING from you. The land of Israel is not your land.

I expect he is talking about his home in the west bank which got bulldozed. Couldn't you work that out?


Quote:

Q. Why can't moslems in the nations surrounding Israel, accept that the Jewish people now have their ancient homeland back ?

They are in gaza and west bank - why wont the israelis agree to 2 state?


Quote:

Q. Why do moslems insist in persecuting the Jewish people, and denying the Jewish people the right to live in what is their own ancient homeland ?

Because the jewish ppl are asrseholes and keep killing them and destroying their homes and crops.


Quote:

And moslems [AS ALWAYS] are fighting to take possession of something which is not theirs.

I dont know about muslims since there are plenty in australia not fighting for anything and in america and in other countries but the palestinians are fighting in self defence.


Quote:

What about your opinion, is that something precious [important] too ?

Obviously not as important as you think your opinion is


Quote:

What about the opinion, of the being who created you ?

My mother is fine thanks for asking. She is 84 and needs someone to mow her lawn for her now because she cant manage it by herself anymore.


Quote:

Why are you lefties and 'collectivists' so offended by a simple truth ?

Why would you call me a "lefty" and what is a "collectivist"? Your definition please.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:38am:

Quote: Q. Why can't moslems in the nations surrounding Israel, accept that the Jewish people now have their ancient homeland back ? They are in gaza and west bank - why wont the israelis agree to 2 state?

SPOT,

YOU ARE LIVING A LIFE, IN DENIAL.
YOU REJECT THE TRUTH - WHENEVER TRUTH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
AND YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT; YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.
YOU INSIST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT,   .....EVEN WHEN >> WHAT IS APPARENT << DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
YOU ARE LIVING IN DENIAL.

[And you berate me, for believing in a 'sky fairy' !!    LOL   ]



SPOT,

There is, and always was '2 states', 'on the ground'.

Jordan is the 2nd state.


In 'occupying' 'Palestine' [i.e. including historical Judea, and Samaria], the Jewish people have merely taken back, what was once their ancient homeland.

That is, the Jewish people, post WWI, were allocated land from what were former Turkish [MOSLEM] territories.


And, the 'Palestinians' already have a 'homeland'.

The 'Palestinian' 'homeland', is called >> Jordan << .




IMAGE...
http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/oren/Transjordan%20separation%201922.jpg



IMAGE...
http://zioneocon.blogspot.com.au/map%20partition%20transjordan.gif



IMAGE...
http://www.solarnavigator.net/geography/geography_images/Palestine_British_Mandate_1920.jpg







Quote:

[quote]Q. Why do moslems insist in persecuting the Jewish people, and denying the Jewish people the right to live in what is their own ancient homeland ?

Because the jewish ppl are asrseholes and keep killing them and destroying their homes and crops.

[/quote]




And why do the Israelis keep 'oppressing' and killing the 'Palestinians' ???

Because those moslems, in Judea, and Samaria, 'are asrseholes', and they keep trying to kill Israelis and keep trying to destroy Israel. [.....because they are seeking to take illegal possession of Judea, and Samaria, and to take illegal possession of ALL of the land which constitutes the current state of Israel]



"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Koran 9.29i
Quote:

[quote]And moslems [AS ALWAYS] are fighting to take possession of something which is not theirs.

I dont know about muslims since there are plenty in australia not fighting for anything and in america and in other countries but the palestinians are fighting in self defence.

[/quote]

SPOT,

Moslems [by definition], must come into conflict with those who are not moslems.

That is the undeniable truth.

Study their Mohammedan philosophy.




SPOT,

YOU ARE LIVING A LIFE, IN DENIAL.
YOU REJECT THE TRUTH - WHENEVER TRUTH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
AND YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT; YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.
YOU INSIST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT,   .....EVEN WHEN >> WHAT IS APPARENT << DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
YOU ARE LIVING IN DENIAL.

e.g.
Moslem drug wars over 'turf', Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne.



e.g.
The strong assertion by a spokesman for the moslem community in Australia, that all moslems in Australia must reject Australian law [and our political system],
.....MUST [eventually] BRING ALL MOSLEMS IN AUSTRALIA, INTO CONFLICT WITH THE WIDER AUSTRALIAN COMMUNITY.


e.g. #1,

Quote:

"[a respected moslem community spokesman has] called on Australian Muslims to spurn secular democracy and Western notions of moderate Islam... ...[moslems in Australia were told] that democracy is "haram" (forbidden) for Muslims, whose political engagement should be be based purely on Islamic law. "We must adhere to Islam and Islam alone," Mr Hanif [said]"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/australia-members-of-hizb-ut-tahrir-say-country-is-god-forsaken-and-that-muslims-must-shun-secular-a.html



e.g. #2,
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200508/r54561_147958.jpg

Australian Islamic leader defends jihad.
".....Abu Bakr says he does not accept other religions.
"I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion. It doesn't tolerate," he said.
"The only one law which needs to spread, it can be here or anywhere else, is Islam." "
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200508/s1430551.htm




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Just keep living in denial SPOT.

That is your way.

It is the way which you have chosen.

A way which turns away from all truth.

Yadda wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 10:48am:

Quote: [quote]And moslems [AS ALWAYS] are fighting to take possession of something which is not theirs. I dont know about muslims since there are plenty in australia not fighting for anything and in america and in other countries but the palestinians are fighting in self defence.

SPOT,

Moslems [by definition], must come into conflict with those who are not moslems.

That is the undeniable truth.




Study their Mohammedan philosophy.



[/quote]


"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' and whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law....." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196


"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Koran 9.29


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


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SPOT,

YOU ARE LIVING A LIFE, IN DENIAL.
YOU REJECT THE TRUTH - WHENEVER TRUTH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
AND YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT; YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.
YOU INSIST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT,   .....EVEN WHEN >> WHAT IS APPARENT << DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
YOU ARE LIVING IN DENIAL.

falah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 9:44pm:

I could take some crazy-looking guy and get him to mistranslate parts of the Bible, and take them out of context too. [...]

You forget one very important and salient fact: the Qur'an is the immutable word of allah. That means that any page in the Qur'an can be read in isolation and it makes perfect sense.

Stop being so defensive about Islam. I am a proud New Age Muslim and I love the violence in the holy Na'ruq.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:38am:

Why would you call me a "lefty" and what is a "collectivist"? Your definition please. SOB

Collectivism, the practice of giving priority to..
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1343700582/0#0

Yadda wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 5:38am: Why would you call me a "lefty" and what is a "collectivist"? Your definition please. SOB Collectivism, the practice of giving priority to.. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1343700582/0#0

Not a link, your definition. What did YOU mean by it.

SOB

Yadda wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 10:48am:

Quote: [quote]And moslems [AS ALWAYS] are fighting to take possession of something which is not theirs. I dont know about muslims since there are plenty in australia not fighting for anything and in america and in other countries but the palestinians are fighting in self defence.

SPOT,

Moslems [by definition], must come into conflict with those who are not moslems.

That is the undeniable truth.

Study their Mohammedan philosophy.




SPOT,

YOU ARE LIVING A LIFE, IN DENIAL.
YOU REJECT THE TRUTH - WHENEVER TRUTH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
AND YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT; YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.
YOU INSIST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT,   .....EVEN WHEN >> WHAT IS APPARENT << DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
YOU ARE LIVING IN DENIAL.


[/quote]




Yadda said,

Quote:

Moslems [by definition], must come into conflict with those who are not moslems.

An example from France;


Quote:

France: Muslims who attacked police refused to recognize French law As the number of Muslims in France and other Western countries continues to rise, we will see more and more of this rejection of Infidel law. Muslims will demand more and more accommodation to Sharia, and increasingly ignore the laws of the secular society -- and once their numbers grow large enough, some of these Muslims will attempt to impose Sharia in its entirety upon the Infidel polity.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/07/france-muslims-who-attacked-police-refused-to-recognize-french-law.html



Hey SPOT,

She [this French moslem woman] was a 'Palestinian'.

So she was obviously 'justified'.

Right ?

/sarc off

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 12:12pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 5:38am: Why would you call me a "lefty" and what is a "collectivist"? Your definition please. SOB Collectivism, the practice of giving priority to.. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1343700582/0#0 Not a link, your definition. What did YOU mean by it. SOB

If you want to know, then follow the link.

Duh.

So you are saying that because i dont think the israelis are being fair to the palestinians i must think palestinians can do no wrong? What kind of dick are you? Oh i know a whacko kooky religious black and white dick. No middle ground black or white thats it.

YADDA,

YOU ARE LIVING A LIFE, IN DENIAL.
YOU REJECT THE TRUTH - WHENEVER TRUTH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
AND YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT; YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.
YOU INSIST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT,   .....EVEN WHEN >> WHAT IS APPARENT << DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
YOU ARE LIVING IN DENIAL.

Meanwhile why dont you want to explain what you meant by "collectivism" is it because you know it wasnt appropriate?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 1:03pm:

So you are saying that because i dont think the israelis are being fair to the palestinians i must think palestinians can do no wrong? What kind of dick are you? Oh i know a whacko kooky religious black and white dick. No middle ground black or white thats it. YADDA, YOU ARE LIVING A LIFE, IN DENIAL. YOU REJECT THE TRUTH - WHENEVER TRUTH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION. AND YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT; YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG. YOU INSIST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT,   .....EVEN WHEN >> WHAT IS APPARENT << DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION. YOU ARE LIVING IN DENIAL. Meanwhile why dont you want to explain what you meant by "collectivism" is it because you know it wasnt appropriate? SOB

You can't beat my argument, you refuse to address the truth of the issue [....moslem supremacism and violence],

.....so now its disparagement, and abuse of someone who's opinion does not align with your opinion, because, as always,   ....
"YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG."

Spot always resorts to insults when he has lost an argument. I think he picked that trick up from Abu.

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 1:52pm:

Spot always resorts to insults when he has lost an argument. I think he picked that trick up from Abu.

That is a moslem trait, which you will witness in all public forums [...which moslems do not control].

Yadda wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 1:52pm: Spot always resorts to insults when he has lost an argument. I think he picked that trick up from Abu. That is a moslem trait, which you will witness in all public forums [...which moslems do not control].

WTF you 2 just crap on without any substance. Freediver twists things and yadda just doesnt address anything @ all just goes on about how everyone is wrong except him. Seriously you guys are weird.

Yadda WTF is it you think is your point? That all ;muslims are bad? Well not all of them are bad. Not unless all xtians are bad too. You are an extremist though so you are bad. You need to be locked away where you wont be a danger to other ppl and yourself. Voices getting louder?

You are so scared of psychiatric drugs i have to wonder if you are supposed to be taking them and you arent. Try it - you never know you might feel better and think clearer.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:24pm:

Yadda WTF is it you think is your point? That all ;muslims are bad? Well not all of them are bad. Not unless all xtians are bad too. You are an extremist though so you are bad.

Yes.

Exactly so.

ISLAM is an evil and violent philosophy.

e.g.

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' and whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law....." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196


"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Koran 9.29


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123




And moslems choose to associate themselves with ISLAM,
.....even though it can be demonstrated that ISLAM is an evil and violent philosophy,
.....which promotes the enslavement and murder of those who are not moslems.

Ergo;
Yes, ys, yes, moslems are bad, wicked, evil.




Hey SPOT,

Once more.....

THE TRUTH.....


There is no 'nice' ISLAM.

And there are no 'moderate', or 'nice' moslems.

All, moslems, imo, are bad, wicked, evil.

Because they choose to be, moslems, to join themselves to, ISLAM.








A moslem, is a moslem.

"Allah is my god, and Mohammed is his prophet."

Period.





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Google;
Shahada, confession of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."



"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111



What 'moslems', choose to embrace......

Murdering for 'religion'....

"Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #005.059.369



And this....

Murdering for 'religion'....

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260




And this....

Murdering for 'religion'....

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."
ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......A moslem, promoting, justifying, ISLAM's murder of those who do not believe, as they believe.i




Quote:

You need to be locked away where you wont be a danger to other ppl and yourself.

How convenient.

I [SPOT!] can't win an argument in a public forum.

Solution ???

I know!!!

I will lobby to 'lock away' those people who express an opinion which does not align with my own opinion.

How clever of me!!!
/sarc off





SPOT,

YOU ARE LIVING A LIFE, IN DENIAL.
YOU REJECT THE TRUTH - WHENEVER TRUTH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
AND YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT; YOU ARE CORRECT, ....AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG.
YOU INSIST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT,   .....EVEN WHEN >> WHAT IS APPARENT << DOES NOT ALIGN WITH, AND SUPPORT, YOUR OPINION.
YOU ARE LIVING IN DENIAL.

Yadda wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:59pm:

Quote: You need to be locked away where you wont be a danger to other ppl and yourself. How convenient. I [SPOT!] can't win an argument in a public forum. Solution ??? I know!!! I will lobby to 'lock away' those people who express an opinion which does not align with my own opinion. How clever of me!!! /sarc off

Hey SPOT,

Do you know what a >> bigot << is?





Open a dictionary;

bigot = = a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others.


Bigots, are those people who are,
".....intolerant of the opinions of others."








And "prejudiced in their views"  ???

Hmmm.

I wonder where i could find an example of, 'prejudiced in their views' ???

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

It wasnt a comment on your opinions hateful as they are but on your psychological health. I am worried about you - you may no9t be tkaing your medication.

Xtians are all full of hate. They all are worshipping a murderous god being. The book tells them to kill unbelievers.
/sarc off

your fairy tale book:

Quote:

Kill Followers of Other Religions.     1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.  (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)     2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden.  When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.  (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:29pm:

It wasnt a comment on your opinions hateful as they are but on your psychological health. I am worried about you - you may no9t be tkaing your medication. Xtians are all full of hate. They all are worshipping a murderous god being. The book tells them to kill unbelievers. /sarc off your fairy tale book: Quote: Kill Followers of Other Religions.     1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.  (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)     2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden.  When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.  (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT) SOB

Ooooh.

Ooooooh.

'That is a hard one.'
/sarc off






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Duh.

Covenant breakers.

The OT bible records that the Hebrew people entered into a covenant, with their God.

"...And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.
And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do...."
Exodus 19:5-8




Hey SPOT,

If the Hebrew people transgressed [broke] their side of the covenant, shouldn't those particular people responsible for the transgression of the covenant be punished,
ACCORDING TO THE TERMS OF THE COVENANT ?





And by the way SPOT, YOUR SUPPOSITION IS TOTALLY FALLACIOUS.

"The book tells them to kill unbelievers. ......Kill Followers of Other Religions."


Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

And, fallacious.





Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34  But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself...

n.b.
.....and thou shalt love him as thyself

Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19
For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 24:17
Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:
18  But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing.

Deuteronomy 27:19
Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger...

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:29pm:

It wasnt a comment on your opinions hateful as they are but on your psychological health. I am worried about you - you may no9t be tkaing your medication. SOB

SPOT,

Your concern for my well-being is noted.
/sarc off

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:29pm:

your fairy tale book: Quote: Kill Followers of Other Religions.     1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.  (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)     2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden.  When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.  (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT) SOB

Thats your book. Your god telling you to kill unbelievers. Want more?

This is leviticus (the same book you were quoting @ me)

Quote:

Death for Cursing Parents     1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness.  (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)     2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death.  They are guilty of a capital offense.  (Leviticus 20:9 NLT) Death for Adultery     If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.  (Leviticus 20:10 NLT) Death for Fornication     A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.  (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

What a violent religion . . . .

SOB

Quote:

Well not all of them are bad. Not unless all xtians are bad too.

So spot, which is it? Or does it not matter whether they are good or bad, so long as they are the same and you can tar them all with the same brush? For someone who is so hypersensitive to generalisations about Muslims you sure throw out enough of your own.

How can I be cured of Islamophobia?

Men with beards & towels over their heads frighten me.
Women with burquas frighten me too.

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:32pm:

Quote: Well not all of them are bad. Not unless all xtians are bad too. So spot, which is it? Or does it not matter whether they are good or bad, so long as they are the same and you can tar them all with the same brush? For someone who is so hypersensitive to generalisations about Muslims you sure throw out enough of your own.

Obviously you dont recognise irony when you see it. Turning the tables i am - he says muslims are all evil so i say xtians are all evil. Are you stupid or something?

SOB

Bobby. wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 11:11pm:

How can I be cured of Islamophobia? Men with beards & towels over their heads frighten me. Women with burquas frighten me too.

Probably. Maybe a course in common sense or rational thinking?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 6:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 11:11pm: How can I be cured of Islamophobia? Men with beards & towels over their heads frighten me. Women with burquas frighten me too. Probably. Maybe a course in common sense or rational thinking? SOB

No - I'm beyond help.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 7:31am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 1st, 2012 at 6:02am: Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 11:11pm: How can I be cured of Islamophobia? Men with beards & towels over their heads frighten me. Women with burquas frighten me too. Probably. Maybe a course in common sense or rational thinking? SOB No - I'm beyond help.

No one is beyond help, Bobbie. Have you tried psychoanalysis?

You'll find most of your problems are just an ego defense mechanism to deny latent homosexuality. Apparently it's quite common.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 6:01am:

freediver wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 7:32pm: Quote: Well not all of them are bad. Not unless all xtians are bad too. So spot, which is it? Or does it not matter whether they are good or bad, so long as they are the same and you can tar them all with the same brush? For someone who is so hypersensitive to generalisations about Muslims you sure throw out enough of your own. Obviously you dont recognise irony when you see it. Turning the tables i am - he says muslims are all evil so i say xtians are all evil. Are you stupid or something? SOB

Sorry Spot it is hard to tell the difference between you being serious and trying to win a stupidity contest.

freediver wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 4:25pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 1st, 2012 at 6:01am: freediver wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 7:32pm: Quote: Well not all of them are bad. Not unless all xtians are bad too. So spot, which is it? Or does it not matter whether they are good or bad, so long as they are the same and you can tar them all with the same brush? For someone who is so hypersensitive to generalisations about Muslims you sure throw out enough of your own. Obviously you dont recognise irony when you see it. Turning the tables i am - he says muslims are all evil so i say xtians are all evil. Are you stupid or something? SOB Sorry Spot it is hard to tell the difference between you being serious and trying to win a stupidity contest.

Oh i could never compete with you . . .

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 6:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 11:11pm: How can I be cured of Islamophobia? Men with beards & towels over their heads frighten me. Women with burquas frighten me too. Probably. Maybe a course in common sense or rational thinking? SOB

You wouldn't dare recommend common sense and rational thinking to bearded towelies or burqa-clad walking black post boxes, I bet. You are bending over backwards to accommodate and tolerate their Islamophobophobia.
Because you are afraid they'd cut off your [deleted by mod].

I don't trust people if I can't see their face -
whether they are hiding behind a beard or a burqua -
same deal.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 10:07pm:

I don't trust people if I can't see their face - whether they are hiding behind a beard or a burqua - same deal.

Beards have been around since time began. Do you hate hats too? How about nuns - they okay? Its not like many cover their whole faces. Helmets arent allowed in banks.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2012 at 4:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2012 at 10:07pm: I don't trust people if I can't see their face - whether they are hiding behind a beard or a burqua - same deal. Beards have been around since time began. Do you hate hats too? How about nuns - they okay? Its not like many cover their whole faces. Helmets arent allowed in banks. SOB

Hats are o.k. sometimes but rude to wear indoors.
Nuns look silly.
I can't stand anyone with a big beard.
Look at Costa on the gardening show - ridiculous.

---

Well just because you are offended by untrendy ppl doesnt mean its a matter of national security. Beards arent "in" @ the moment but the fashion comes and goes.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2012 at 7:15am:

Well just because you are offended by untrendy ppl doesnt mean its a matter of national security. Beards arent "in" @ the moment but the fashion comes and goes. SOB

Borg,
It's a free country & I am entitled to my opinion.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2012 at 7:17am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 2nd, 2012 at 7:15am: Well just because you are offended by untrendy ppl doesnt mean its a matter of national security. Beards arent "in" @ the moment but the fashion comes and goes. SOB Borg, It's a free country & I am entitled to my opinion.

Where did i say you werent?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2012 at 8:18am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 2nd, 2012 at 7:17am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 2nd, 2012 at 7:15am: Well just because you are offended by untrendy ppl doesnt mean its a matter of national security. Beards arent "in" @ the moment but the fashion comes and goes. SOB Borg, It's a free country & I am entitled to my opinion. Where did i say you werent? SOB

OK - you are forgiven.

Spot just likes to remind people (in every thread he can) that just because they are Muslims does not mean they are carrying a bomb.

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2012 at 5:36pm:

Spot just likes to remind people (in every thread he can) that just because they are Muslims does not mean they are carrying a bomb.

We werent talking about muslims we were talking about beards and headwear. If that gardener guy a muslim? You are obsessed.

SOB

Quote:

If that gardener guy a muslim?

No he's a Greek Aussie & quite likeable - it's just that beard!

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freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2012 at 5:36pm:

Spot just likes to remind people (in every thread he can) that just because they are Muslims does not mean they are carrying a bomb.

Someone needs to point it out to you, as you obviously don't have the requisite intelligence to determine it for yourself.

You should be thanking spot for educating you.

Hi Abu - what do you think of Costa's beard?

Would he be popular in Iran?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 7:31am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 1st, 2012 at 6:02am: Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 11:11pm: How can I be cured of Islamophobia? Men with beards & towels over their heads frighten me. Women with burquas frighten me too. Probably. Maybe a course in common sense or rational thinking? SOB No - I'm beyond help.

Me too.




"Men with beards & towels over their heads frighten me."



Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&oneclick=true





IMAGE...
http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/Isllam2.jpg
London, moslem street protests.
'Demonstrating' just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslem really are.



THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"



IMAGE...
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/middleeast28_04.jpg
The real holocaust is coming?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2012 at 9:24pm:

Hi Abu - what do you think of Costa's beard? Would he be popular in Iran?

I must admit when I first saw him, I instantly thought he looks Muslim.

As for Iran, I've told you plenty of times already, I couldn't give two hoots about the place. I consider it a deviant country that is based on an ideology (shi'ism) that is as foreign to me as Communism or Scientology.

Jesus isnt so nice either:


Quote:

I have come to bring fire to the earth. And how I wish it were blazing already! - Luke 12:49

Quote:

For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. - Matt 15:4

Yeah and look @ this opposite!


Quote:

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. - Luke 14:26

and for unbelievers:

Quote:

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. - John 15:6

These are new testament. Do you believe them? Do you live by them? Or do you ignore them and stay within the bounds of society in this time?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 5:00am:

Jesus isnt so nice either: Quote: I have come to bring fire to the earth. And how I wish it were blazing already! - Luke 12:49

Luke 12:41
Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 5:00am:

Jesus isnt so nice either: Quote: For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. - Matt 15:4 SOB

Matthew 15:4
For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.


"For God commanded," and of whom was it commanded ?

This Jewish [OT] law is speaking of COVENANT BREAKERS.

AGAIN,

If the Hebrew people had freely entered into a covenant with their God, and then transgressed their covenant,
IS IT A GREAT EVIL,
if those particular people that are responsible for the transgression of the covenant be punished,
ACCORDING TO THE TERMS OF THE COVENANT ?


Harsh ?

Yes.

But why is it 'not nice', or, EVIL,   ...to expect someone to honour their legal agreements, or, expect to receive the appropriate to punishment for NOT honouring an agreement ?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 5:00am:

Jesus isnt so nice either: and for unbelievers: Quote: If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. - John 15:6 SOB

John 15:6  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.


Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.




Jesus warned.....

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
.....Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

Who could Jesus have been talking about ???


IMAGE...
http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/Isllam2.jpg
London, moslem street protests.
'Demonstrating' just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslem really are.



THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 5:00am:

Jesus isnt so nice either: These are new testament. Do you believe them? Do you live by them? Or do you ignore them and stay within the bounds of society in this time? SOB

Clearly some people think that i do not 'stay within the bounds of society', because some people are asking that i should be locked up.

So clearly, in the eyes of some people, i must be a law breaker.

But, who's law ???





Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:24pm:

Yadda WTF is it you think is your point? That all ;muslims are bad? Well not all of them are bad. Not unless all xtians are bad too. You are an extremist though so you are bad. You need to be locked away where you wont be a danger to other ppl and yourself...... SOB

+++

And why am i accused of being an 'extremist' ???


Because i condemn people like these [below], and because I SAY, that the Australian government should make a law, which states that EVERY PERSON who subscribes to [is a member of] a philosophy which promotes such views, should be banned from living in this country....

Am i an 'extremist' ?

OR, just outspoken ?



IMAGE...
http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/Isllam2.jpg
London, moslem street protests.
'Demonstrating' just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslem really are.



THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"




AND;

Moslem community leader, Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad - Speaking publicly, AND THEN PRIVATELY, regarding the London 7/7 bombing victims.

"......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians. Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html




AND;


Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&oneclick=true

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 5:00am:

Jesus isnt so nice either: Quote: If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. - Luke 14:26 SOB

Jesus and John and the OT prophet Zephaniah, also said this.....


Zephaniah 2:3
Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger.

Matthew 6:33
...seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;


Matthew 16:25
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
26  For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
27  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Mark 8:35
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
36  For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
37  Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
38  Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.




John 8:23
And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

John 18:36
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world:...

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

John 17:1
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
.....
14  I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15  I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

Yadda wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 7:10am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 3rd, 2012 at 5:00am: Jesus isnt so nice either: These are new testament. Do you believe them? Do you live by them? Or do you ignore them and stay within the bounds of society in this time? SOB Clearly some people think that i do not 'stay within the bounds of society', because some people are asking that i should be locked up. So clearly, in the eyes of some people, i must be a law breaker. But, who's law ???

According to ISLAM,
anyone who opposes ISLAM,
anyone who opposes the spread of ISLAM,
anyone who criticises ISLAM,
....is a criminal.



"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world,......"
Koran 5.3


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11




+++

SPOT,

Again, you are a moslem [to me].

You have the heart of a moslem.



'Quack, quack.'

Yadda wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 7:10am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 2:24pm: Yadda WTF is it you think is your point? That all ;muslims are bad? Well not all of them are bad. Not unless all xtians are bad too. You are an extremist though so you are bad. You need to be locked away where you wont be a danger to other ppl and yourself...... SOB +++ And why am i accused of being an 'extremist' ??? Because i condemn people like these [below], and because I SAY, that the Australian government should make a law, which states that EVERY PERSON who subscribes to [is a member of] a philosophy which promotes such views, should be banned from living in this country.... Am i an 'extremist' ? OR, just outspoken ?

OR, just a voice for sanity, in an insane world ?




A simple definition of INSANITY.


Quote:

Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society]. And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.

Come on Yadda - keep the replies short.

I can't read all that.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 8:46am:

Come on Yadda - keep the replies short. I can't read all that.

Quote:

'Yadda is an extremist, and should be locked up.'

SPOT



I am not an extremist [....even though! i believe in the God of Israel, and read the Bible].
Yadda




How's that bobby ?

Better ?

That's better - thanks.

Yadda

You are extreme because you advocate the killing of ALL palestinians and muslims in general.

Those quotes i gave you were NEW TESTAMENT. Yes not OT but NT.


Quote:

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. - Luke 19:27 (!!!)

Quote:

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. - John 15:6

Hey? What are you supposed to do to unbeliever? Huh?

Yadda you need to think about whether you are following your gods word or not.

SOB

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Quote:

You are extreme because you advocate the killing of ALL palestinians and muslims in general.

LOL, from the guy who always complains about being misunderstood and misrepresented.

Or is this another attempt at irony spot?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 11:42am:

Hey? What are you supposed to do to unbeliever? Huh? Yadda you need to think about whether you are following your gods word or not. SOB

SPOT,

You err, through your own ignorance [  ...and your wilful blindness].

[Wilful blindness, because i have pointed out these things to you previously. And yet, you still reject their witness against your error.]



All men [no matter what their racial background], are accepted by my God, if they seek to act righteously.


Acts 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35  But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

n.b.
ISLAM declares that there is only ONE legitimate nation, or group of people, ....the Ummah, the worldwide moslem people/community.




Acts 17:26
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
27  That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:


Galatians 3:6
Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7  Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8  And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.





And from the OT Bible....

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34  But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself...

n.b.
.....and thou shalt love him as thyself

Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19
For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 24:17
Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:
18  But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing.

Deuteronomy 27:19
Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger...


How more definitive can the character of the person of the God of Israel be, than what is declared in those OT Bible verses ???


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These words [below] are the words of another god, NOT my God.


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


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Allah, and the God of Israel, are not the same god or, person.

That fact is clear, from comparing the contents of the Koran, with the contents of the Bible.

Google;
a different god allah

Google;
allah another god

Ukranian lovelies protesting Islamofascists at the Olympics.
Response?
They are arrested. Islamofascists are validated by the Spots of the world.  A Spotty world, this.



Femen stage topless anti-Islamist Olympic protest in London
Members of Ukrainian female protest group Femen demonstrate in London to draw attention to what they call "bloody Islamist regimes" taking part in the Olympics.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/olympicsvideo/9447608/Femen-stage-topless-anti-Islamist-Olympic-protest-in-London.html



Islamophobophobia in action.

Soren wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 1:33pm:

Ukranian lovelies protesting Islamofascists at the Olympics. Response? They are arrested. Islamofascists are validated by the Spots of the world.  A Spotty world, this. Femen stage topless anti-Islamist Olympic protest in London Members of Ukrainian female protest group Femen demonstrate in London to draw attention to what they call "bloody Islamist regimes" taking part in the Olympics. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/olympicsvideo/9447608/Femen-stage-topless-anti-Islamist-Olympic-protest-in-London.html Islamophobophobia in action.

It is a disgrace to Western culture peoples that the Islamofascists are validated by the Spots of the world.

A Spotty world this is, indeed!


Quack, quack!

freediver wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 12:50pm:

Quote: You are extreme because you advocate the killing of ALL palestinians and muslims in general. LOL, from the guy who always complains about being misunderstood and misrepresented. Or is this another attempt at irony spot?

Are you seriously denying he said that? There was a thread where you said you werent going to take any action on it . . . .

SOB

Soren wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 1:33pm:

Ukranian lovelies protesting Islamofascists at the Olympics. Response? They are arrested. Islamofascists are validated by the Spots of the world.  A Spotty world, this. Femen stage topless anti-Islamist Olympic protest in London Members of Ukrainian female protest group Femen demonstrate in London to draw attention to what they call "bloody Islamist regimes" taking part in the Olympics. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/olympicsvideo/9447608/Femen-stage-topless-anti-Islamist-Olympic-protest-in-London.html Islamophobophobia in action.

Who was breaking the law? Shoudlnt the ppl breaking the law be the ones punished?

Seeing the olympic is a tribute to zeus im surprised any xtians are there either. However the olympics are supposed to be a way for ppl to take out their aggression instead fo war. You dont want to ban ppl if its stopping them from fighting do you?

Anyway if the protesters break the law they are the ones that get arrested. Simple.

SOB

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Yadda your book is full of opposite rubbish. Paradoxical. You told me you dont use the OT so i quote to you from the NT then you quote @ me from the OT! Make up your mind! Do you ignore the OT or not? Cause if you dont i have a LOT of quotes for you about your murderous god and laws.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 2:37pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2012 at 1:33pm: Ukranian lovelies protesting Islamofascists at the Olympics. Response? They are arrested. Islamofascists are validated by the Spots of the world.  A Spotty world, this. Femen stage topless anti-Islamist Olympic protest in London Members of Ukrainian female protest group Femen demonstrate in London to draw attention to what they call "bloody Islamist regimes" taking part in the Olympics. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/olympicsvideo/9447608/Femen-stage-topless-anti-Islamist-Olympic-protest-in-London.html Islamophobophobia in action. Who was breaking the law? Shoudlnt the ppl breaking the law be the ones punished? Seeing the olympic is a tribute to zeus im surprised any xtians are there either. However the olympics are supposed to be a way for ppl to take out their aggression instead fo war. You dont want to ban ppl if its stopping them from fighting do you? Anyway if the protesters break the law they are the ones that get arrested. Simple. SOB

This is the modern olympics, Spoty. You know, the one started by Baron Pierre de Coubertin in the late 19th century.
Not Zeus. That's Ancient Greece. 8th century BC - 4th century AD.

Don't tell me you disagree with the Femen lovelies? Muslim countries do oppress their women, treating them as chattels. One reason for their backwardness on every possible count. Are you for backwardness, mother?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 2:26pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 3rd, 2012 at 12:50pm: Quote: You are extreme because you advocate the killing of ALL palestinians and muslims in general. LOL, from the guy who always complains about being misunderstood and misrepresented. Or is this another attempt at irony spot? Are you seriously denying he said that? There was a thread where you said you werent going to take any action on it . . . . SOB

I am just as serious as every time you deny saying things that I quote you on.


Quote:

Don't tell me you disagree with the Femen lovelies? Muslim countries do oppress their women, treating them as chattels. One reason for their backwardness on every possible count. Are you for backwardness, mother?

I think you'll find that because spotty didn't become a chattel in Malaysia, this proves that Christians are identical to Muslims, but not all Muslims are the same.

I still don't trust people with beards - whether they be Islamic or not.
Do I need help?

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Bobby. wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 8:52pm:

I still don't trust people with beards - whether they be Islamic or not. Do I need help?

Maybe if you were to meet him you would like him and lose your distrust? Go find him and ask for an autograph or ask him to look @ your garden.

SOB

For freediver:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338705521/60

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 6:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2012 at 8:52pm: I still don't trust people with beards - whether they be Islamic or not. Do I need help? Maybe if you were to meet him you would like him and lose your distrust? Go find him and ask for an autograph or ask him to look @ your garden. SOB

He's a nice guy - I like his show -
it's just that beard.

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 6:40am:

For freediver: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338705521/60 SOB

For SPOT;
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338705521/94#94

Yadda wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 11:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 4th, 2012 at 6:40am: For freediver: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338705521/60 SOB For SPOT; http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338705521/94#94

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yeah i left out your justification since it doesnt matter because you dont care about PPs justification. Just being fair.

SOB

The Victim Value Index is calculated based on one overriding factor: Disruptiveness…

To be a progressive is to be committed to perpetual reform in the name of perpetual grievance for perpetual power. Grievance ... justifies their right to agitate and undermine, to seize power by any means necessary and to implement their programs legally or extra-legally.

Reformers need their bleeding sores, their cries of outrage and their muck to rake. Those who give them that often go to the head of the line acting as their secular clergy, blessing their rule… But that’s just part of it.

Progressivism is a revolution in slow motion, and revolutions need revolutionaries. Disruption is more than just grievance, it’s violence. Those who are willing to ruthlessly attack the status quo clearing the ground for revolution are the ones who go to the head of the line and the dais of honor on top. A little murder and mayhem, and progressives will trot out “moderate” versions of the murderers and mayhemists, usually linked to them, and offer to represent them and tamp down the violence in exchange for meeting their demands…

September 11 and its aftermath is why Muslims have gone to the top of the Victim Value Index… Muslims used to be shelved in the back with Asians, Indians and Jews. The War on Terror dramatically upgraded their status. The other groups are stuck there because they are relatively successful and aren’t rioting or blowing things up.
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/the-minority-victim-value-index.html