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Message started by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 10:59am

Title: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 10:59am
http://greens-win.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/minimum-wage-rises-17-week-about-1.html


Minimum wage rises $17 a week


ABOUT 1.4 million low paid workers will receive a $17.10 pay rise after the industrial umpire lifted the minimum wage to $606.40 a week.

Fair Work Australia president Iain Ross said the “moderate” 2.9 per cent rise would maintain living standards for award wage earners.

"In this review we have decided that the relevant statutory considerations favour a moderate increase which will improve the real value of award wages and assist the living standards of the low paid,” he said.

Justice Ross said the tribunal had not been persuaded by employer submissions that this year’s minimum wage decision should be moderated by carbon tax compensation and recent budget handouts.

The tribunal has left it open to consider in future reviews the impact of the staged increase in superannuation guarantee payments.

Unions had claimed a $26 rise, while business groups wanted to constrain wage rises to as low as $9 a week.
Justice Ross said economic conditions had been “reasonably strong” , but structural challenges associated with the mining boom “will lead to some increased structural and/or frictional unemployment”.

“In summary, the economic outlook remains sound, with growth continuing around trend levels in aggregate, with continuing relatively low unemployment and moderate inflation,” he said.

“However, a number of considerations give rise to some caution. The outlook for growth is uneven, with the resources sector driving domestic growth and the non-resources sector growing less strongly.

“Global risks continue, most notably those associated with continuing sovereign debt problems in Europe.

“There are also conflicting signals in the main economic indicators and considerable volatility, from quarter to quarter, in important measures such as growth in company gross operating profits, inflation, hours worked and gross value added by industry.”

Title: Re: Minimun Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:00am
$17...

Don't go spending it all at once now ya hear....

;D

Title: Re: Minimun Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:02am
If Libs become the main party within a hung parliament, and are in a position to reverse the carbon price for the biggest polluters, will this minimum wage increase increase. Or will Abbott be attacking the minimum wage via his carbon compensation attack.


Title: Re: Minimun Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:04am
If we have no carbon tax - there is no need to give people compensation to pay it.

Quite simple really.

As a company we are already doing far more across the world to help the environment than Australia has done or will do in 10 years.

Real action happens at the big company level - not nonsense like the carbon tax.

Title: Re: Minimun Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:06am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:04am:
If we have no carbon tax - there is no need to give people compensation to pay it.

Quite simple really.

As a company we are already doing far more across the world to help the environment than Australia has done or will do in 10 years.

Real action happens at the big company level - not nonsense like the carbon tax.



The the minimum wage must increase, if abbott reverses the carbon compensation.

If not, workers will be worse off under an abbott government.

Title: Re: Minimun Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:07am
People should be paid market rate.

I don't like minimum or maximum wages.

I am a market capitalist. I am paid my market rate, so should everyone else be.

Title: Re: Minimun Wage Up $17 Week
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:10am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:07am:
People should be paid market rate.

I don't like minimum or maximum wages.

I am a market capitalist. I am paid my market rate, so should everyone else be.

Wouldn't you want it to be based on something a little more stable?

Title: Re: Minimun Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Prevailing on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:18am
Nothing but Bribes from the anti Humans who are driving the human race to extinction with their oligarchical insanity.  The Greenies are the enemy of the human race, killers of creativity and endeavor..

Title: Re: Minimun Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:32am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:10am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:07am:
People should be paid market rate.

I don't like minimum or maximum wages.

I am a market capitalist. I am paid my market rate, so should everyone else be.

Wouldn't you want it to be based on something a little more stable?



Nope.
The market decides costs and prices better than anything.

Why when I go for a job would I receive offers paying me roughly all within $10k of each other?

Market price of where I sit.

Title: Re: Minimun Wage Up $17 Week
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:34am
the only problem with the increase that its not enough to cover the increases in the cost of living and that without adding on the extra cost of the carbon tax. The unions should be ashamed for themselves.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Kat on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:56am

And the gap between the minimum-wage and the ridiculously low No-Start 'benefit' grows ever wider.

This really is a travesty.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by progressiveslol on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:57am

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am:
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.

Maybe gang-green overestimated the stupidity of Australians.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Kat on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:58am

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am:
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.



What an offensive term....

What about working singles, don't they count?

It SHOULD be referred to as 'Working HOUSEHOLDS'.

No matter how many or how few members that household has.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:00pm

Kat wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:56am:
And the gap between the minimum-wage and the ridiculously low No-Start 'benefit' grows ever wider.

This really is a travesty.

its called incentive to find work.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:00pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:57am:

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am:
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.

Maybe gang-green overestimated the stupidity of Australians.




Maybe regressive posters would like to keep on topic.

The coalition's plan to reverse carbon compensation will leave low income workers worse off.

Worse off under Abbott's coalition.

The sooner the liberal party realise Abbott is an economic illiterate and is holding the liberal brand back, the sooner they will replace him with Mr Turnbull.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by progressiveslol on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:02pm

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:57am:

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am:
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.

Maybe gang-green overestimated the stupidity of Australians.




Maybe regressive posters would like to keep on topic.

The coalition's plan to reverse carbon compensation will leave low income workers worse off.

Worse off under Abbott's coalition.

The sooner the liberal party realise Abbott is an economic illiterate and is holding the liberal brand back, the sooner they will replace him with Mr Turnbull.

Gang-green and you are still overestimating the stupidity of Australians. Australians dont want regressives with the ingenuine name progressives.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:03pm

Kat wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:58am:

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am:
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.



What an offensive term....

What about working singles, don't they count?

It SHOULD be referred to as 'Working HOUSEHOLDS'.

No matter how many or how few members that household has.



Agree. The old parties should be representing All Australians

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:04pm
What are the Greens going to do when they close all the mines and drive up the cost of living with things like the carbon tax and there is no money left to pay unenployment handouts, what then?

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:05pm

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:56am:
And the gap between the minimum-wage and the ridiculously low No-Start 'benefit' grows ever wider.

This really is a travesty.

its called incentive to find work.




By that logic, if we had slave labour, it would encourage workers to increase productivity.

That's how stupid it is to attack the unemployed and their families.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by progressiveslol on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:07pm

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:04pm:
What are the Greens going to do when they close all the mines and drive up the cost of living with things like the carbon tax and there is no money left to pay unenployment handouts, what then?

Dont forget the greens $100 a tonne carbon tax.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:10pm

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:04pm:
What are the Greens going to do when they close all the mines and drive up the cost of living with things like the carbon tax and there is no money left to pay unenployment handouts, what then?



If anyone is closing down coal mining in this country, it is the Liberals.

If they were realistic about keeping coal as a long term industry for Australia then they would be pushing to increase carbon pricing and then the extra cash raised being spent on a working carbon sequestration coal power station.

Why are Liberals against carbon sequestration?

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:12pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:07pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:04pm:
What are the Greens going to do when they close all the mines and drive up the cost of living with things like the carbon tax and there is no money left to pay unemployment handouts, what then?

Dont forget the greens $100 a tonne carbon tax.

I just don't understand how they expect to pay for things. Things like the carbon tax is driving  manufacturing offshore. They want to shut the mining industry. the money has to come from some place.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by progressiveslol on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:13pm

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:10pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:04pm:
What are the Greens going to do when they close all the mines and drive up the cost of living with things like the carbon tax and there is no money left to pay unenployment handouts, what then?



If anyone is closing down coal mining in this country, it is the Liberals.

If they were realistic about keeping coal as a long term industry for Australia then they would be pushing to increase carbon pricing and then the extra cash raised being spent on a working carbon sequestration coal power station.

Why are Liberals against carbon sequestration?

Der. you cant have it both ways. One minute you constantly call on Abbott and liberals for being controlled by the rich miners, then you stupidly say that they are trying to close down their rich masters mines.

lol you are an open slather try hard.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:17pm

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:10pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:04pm:
What are the Greens going to do when they close all the mines and drive up the cost of living with things like the carbon tax and there is no money left to pay unenployment handouts, what then?



If anyone is closing down coal mining in this country, it is the Liberals.

If they were realistic about keeping coal as a long term industry for Australia then they would be pushing to increase carbon pricing and then the extra cash raised being spent on a working carbon sequestration coal power station.

Why are Liberals against carbon sequestration?

Greeny, you need to increase carbon emissions to improve renewable things like trees.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:18pm

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:12pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:07pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:04pm:
What are the Greens going to do when they close all the mines and drive up the cost of living with things like the carbon tax and there is no money left to pay unemployment handouts, what then?

Dont forget the greens $100 a tonne carbon tax.

I just don't understand how they expect to pay for things. Things like the carbon tax is driving  manufacturing offshore. They want to shut the mining industry. the money has to come from some place.




I thought the high dollar was pushing manufacturing offshore.

I thought it was policies that previous governments that forced manufacturing offshore.

I thought it was policies of foreign governments, to encourage manufacturing, that pull manufacturing away from Australia.

I thought it was wages that was pushing manufacturing offshore.

Now according to regressives, it's a carbon price that hasn't even started that has done it.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:22pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:13pm:

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:10pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:04pm:
What are the Greens going to do when they close all the mines and drive up the cost of living with things like the carbon tax and there is no money left to pay unenployment handouts, what then?



If anyone is closing down coal mining in this country, it is the Liberals.

If they were realistic about keeping coal as a long term industry for Australia then they would be pushing to increase carbon pricing and then the extra cash raised being spent on a working carbon sequestration coal power station.

Why are Liberals against carbon sequestration?

Der. you cant have it both ways. One minute you constantly call on Abbott and liberals for being controlled by the rich miners, then you stupidly say that they are trying to close down their rich masters mines.

lol you are an open slather try hard.




Yet this is not about the rich miners, its about slashing carbon emissions.

By having a working sequestration coal power plant, this will help guarantee coal electricity for Australia and guarantee our coal exports. Why are Liberals refusing to fight for their coal electorate's long term coal industries.

By Liberals being anti a carbon price party, this makes them a anti coal party. Shame Liberals Shame.


Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:24pm

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am:
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.



You could always get a job?
Why are so many fking kiwis in Australia on the dole???


Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:26pm

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:17pm:

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:10pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:04pm:
What are the Greens going to do when they close all the mines and drive up the cost of living with things like the carbon tax and there is no money left to pay unenployment handouts, what then?



If anyone is closing down coal mining in this country, it is the Liberals.

If they were realistic about keeping coal as a long term industry for Australia then they would be pushing to increase carbon pricing and then the extra cash raised being spent on a working carbon sequestration coal power station.

Why are Liberals against carbon sequestration?

Greeny, you need to increase carbon emissions to improve renewable things like trees.



Higher rates of carbon in the atmosphere decreases food nutrition, decreasing return for our agriculture sector. Liberals being anti a carbon pollution price, are anti Australian agriculture and anti all Australians that consume food.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:28pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:24pm:

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am:
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.



You could always get a job?
Why are so many fking kiwis in Australia on the dole???



Shame of the Regressives attacking low income workers by wanting to reduce their income via reversing the carbon pollution compensation.

Neo Cons want to take away incentive for the unemployed to search for jobs.

Shame Abbott followers, Shame.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by progressiveslol on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:31pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:24pm:

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am:
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.



You could always get a job?
Why are so many fking kiwis in Australia on the dole???

And pushing for a republic, a carbon tax, more dole money, more taxes on employers. Maybe they should just shut the fu up and go push for changes in their own slum country.

Now if an Australian pushed for those, then that would be justified.

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by imcrookonit on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:33pm
Thank goodness the Greens hold the balance of power in the senate.  Very, very good insurance.   :)

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:35pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:31pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:24pm:

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am:
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.



You could always get a job?
Why are so many fking kiwis in Australia on the dole???

And pushing for a republic, a carbon tax, more dole money, more taxes on employers. Maybe they should just shut the fu up and go push for changes in their own slum country.

Now if an Australian pushed for those, then that would be justified.




So the regressives have been show up and now are trying to make this personal.

Abbott wants to attack the low income workers, the unemployed, the coal industry, the renewable industry, Agriculture and so on.

No wonder you guys are trying to sidetrack ... because The Greens_Win

Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by progressiveslol on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:41pm

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:35pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:31pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:24pm:

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am:
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.



You could always get a job?
Why are so many fking kiwis in Australia on the dole???

And pushing for a republic, a carbon tax, more dole money, more taxes on employers. Maybe they should just shut the fu up and go push for changes in their own slum country.

Now if an Australian pushed for those, then that would be justified.




So the regressives have been show up and now are trying to make this personal.

Abbott wants to attack the low income workers, the unemployed, the coal industry, the renewable industry, Agriculture and so on.

No wonder you guys are trying to sidetrack ... because The Greens_Win

Well when you talk regressive, I can only think of the ingenuine progressives.

Title: Re: Minimun Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Peter Freedman on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:06pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:04am:
If we have no carbon tax - there is no need to give people compensation to pay it.

Quite simple really.

As a company we are already doing far more across the world to help the environment than Australia has done or will do in 10 years.

Real action happens at the big company level - not nonsense like the carbon tax.


Andrei is a company? How interesting.


Title: Re: Minimum Wage Up $17 Week
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 1st, 2012 at 3:17pm

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:35pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:31pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 12:24pm:

____ wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 11:55am:
Why are the coalition silent about reimbursing low income workers with their carbon price reversal plan.

Why are any low income earner even considering attacking their own cost of living, by supporting abbott's policies.

If Abbott was serious about his mantra of working families, why does he only look after ultra rich, clive palmer type families.



You could always get a job?
Why are so many fking kiwis in Australia on the dole???

And pushing for a republic, a carbon tax, more dole money, more taxes on employers. Maybe they should just shut the fu up and go push for changes in their own slum country.

Now if an Australian pushed for those, then that would be justified.




So the regressives have been show up and now are trying to make this personal.

Abbott wants to attack the low income workers, the unemployed, the coal industry, the renewable industry, Agriculture and so on.

No wonder you guys are trying to sidetrack ... because The Greens_Win



Hardly we just find it offensive you go to someone else's country and start telling us how we should live.

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