The Jews will tell you that is an elaborate hoax, but one of the goals mentioned in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is to encourage atheism in order to facilitate their takeover of the world



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Chap. 14 The Destruction of Religion as a Prelude to the Rise of the Jewish God

You don't even know what atheism is

Certainly a good proportion of self-professed atheists are suckers.  But their atheism is not the reason why they are suckers. They are suckers because of the other ideologies most of them subscribe to, that tend to go hand-in-hand with atheism.

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

Certainly a good proportion of self-professed atheists are suckers.  But their atheism is not the reason why they are suckers. They are suckers because of the other ideologies most of them subscribe to, that tend to go hand-in-hand with atheism.

What other ideologies?

All the ideologies under the "leftwad" banner.  All the ideologies that are aimed at removing any group loyalties greater than the individual. 

Any of these statements sound familiar?

The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy. 
race doesn't exist. 
nationalism is evil. 
religion is even eviler. 
We're global citizens.

ie cultural marxism. 

Falah please tell me what an atheist is.

Hint: an atheist is not a jew

SOB

A mighty clever bit of game they're running there. 

If nobody stands for a cause greater than themselves, they're not in any position to stand against anything either.

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:39pm:

All the ideologies under the "leftwad" banner.  All the ideologies that are aimed at removing any group loyalties greater than the individual.  Any of these statements sound familiar? The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy.  race doesn't exist.  nationalism is evil.  religion is even eviler.  We're global citizens. ie cultural marxism.

Its not like they believe those things for no reason, they come to those conclusions after reviewing fact.
Global citizens isnt really leftist tho

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:04pm:

... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm: All the ideologies under the "leftwad" banner.  All the ideologies that are aimed at removing any group loyalties greater than the individual.  Any of these statements sound familiar? The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy.  race doesn't exist.  nationalism is evil.  religion is even eviler.  We're global citizens. ie cultural marxism.  Its not like they believe those things for no reason, they come to those conclusions after reviewing fact. Global citizens isnt really leftist tho

Facts eh?  I take it you wouldn't have any trouble pointing me in the direction of these *ahem* facts?

Just how much research into say, race, do you think the average person does?  I put the figure somewhere between nil and sweet FA. 

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:06pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:04pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm: All the ideologies under the "leftwad" banner.  All the ideologies that are aimed at removing any group loyalties greater than the individual.  Any of these statements sound familiar? The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy.  race doesn't exist.  nationalism is evil.  religion is even eviler.  We're global citizens. ie cultural marxism.  Its not like they believe those things for no reason, they come to those conclusions after reviewing fact. Global citizens isnt really leftist tho Facts eh?  I take it you wouldn't have any trouble pointing me in the direction of these *ahem* facts?

Well I don't know anyone who thinks the first too and they certainly are not ideas attributed to the left.
Nationalism has been responsible for a great number of attrocitites.
Need I say anything about religion.

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:08pm:

... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:06pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:04pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm: All the ideologies under the "leftwad" banner.  All the ideologies that are aimed at removing any group loyalties greater than the individual.  Any of these statements sound familiar? The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy.  race doesn't exist.  nationalism is evil.  religion is even eviler.  We're global citizens. ie cultural marxism.  Its not like they believe those things for no reason, they come to those conclusions after reviewing fact. Global citizens isnt really leftist tho Facts eh?  I take it you wouldn't have any trouble pointing me in the direction of these *ahem* facts? Well I don't know anyone who thinks the first too and they certainly are not ideas attributed to the left. Nationalism has been responsible for a great number of attrocitites. Need I say anything about religion.

It's easy to prove religion has had negative effects. 
It's not so easy to prove that it's overall impact is in the negative. 

You do indeed know people who believe these things - theres a number of them on this very forum.

I'm a little bemused by your insistence these are not ideas of 'the left" - where do they come from then? 

This is bloody silly. Tolerator do you know what an atheist is? Falah doesnt either. Atheists are all different. They all know about different things and can be in any walk of life. Some are lefties and some are righties and some dont have an affiliation. None of it has anything to do with atheism.

SOB

Borg - remember how I said there is NOTHING you understand that I don't?

I wasn't joking.



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Certainly a good proportion of self-professed atheists are suckers.  But their atheism is not the reason why they are suckers

Kinda makes your last post redundant, doesn't it?

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:11pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:08pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:06pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:04pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm: All the ideologies under the "leftwad" banner.  All the ideologies that are aimed at removing any group loyalties greater than the individual.  Any of these statements sound familiar? The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy.  race doesn't exist.  nationalism is evil.  religion is even eviler.  We're global citizens. ie cultural marxism.  Its not like they believe those things for no reason, they come to those conclusions after reviewing fact. Global citizens isnt really leftist tho Facts eh?  I take it you wouldn't have any trouble pointing me in the direction of these *ahem* facts? Well I don't know anyone who thinks the first too and they certainly are not ideas attributed to the left. Nationalism has been responsible for a great number of attrocitites. Need I say anything about religion. It's easy to prove religion has had negative effects.  It's not so easy to prove that it's overall impact is in the negative.  You do indeed know people who believe these things - theres a number of them on this very forum. I'm a little bemused by your insistence these are not ideas of 'the left" - where do they come from then?

You cant discredit atheism so you try and discredit a small minority of the people who believe in it?

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:14pm:

... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:11pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:08pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:06pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:04pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm: All the ideologies under the "leftwad" banner.  All the ideologies that are aimed at removing any group loyalties greater than the individual.  Any of these statements sound familiar? The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy.  race doesn't exist.  nationalism is evil.  religion is even eviler.  We're global citizens. ie cultural marxism.  Its not like they believe those things for no reason, they come to those conclusions after reviewing fact. Global citizens isnt really leftist tho Facts eh?  I take it you wouldn't have any trouble pointing me in the direction of these *ahem* facts? Well I don't know anyone who thinks the first too and they certainly are not ideas attributed to the left. Nationalism has been responsible for a great number of attrocitites. Need I say anything about religion. It's easy to prove religion has had negative effects.  It's not so easy to prove that it's overall impact is in the negative.  You do indeed know people who believe these things - theres a number of them on this very forum. I'm a little bemused by your insistence these are not ideas of 'the left" - where do they come from then?  You cant discredit atheism so you try and discredit a small minority of the people who believe in it?

Why would I want to discredit atheism, when I am an atheist? 

And it ain't no "small minority"

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:16pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:14pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:11pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:08pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:06pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:04pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm: All the ideologies under the "leftwad" banner.  All the ideologies that are aimed at removing any group loyalties greater than the individual.  Any of these statements sound familiar? The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy.  race doesn't exist.  nationalism is evil.  religion is even eviler.  We're global citizens. ie cultural marxism.  Its not like they believe those things for no reason, they come to those conclusions after reviewing fact. Global citizens isnt really leftist tho Facts eh?  I take it you wouldn't have any trouble pointing me in the direction of these *ahem* facts? Well I don't know anyone who thinks the first too and they certainly are not ideas attributed to the left. Nationalism has been responsible for a great number of attrocitites. Need I say anything about religion. It's easy to prove religion has had negative effects.  It's not so easy to prove that it's overall impact is in the negative.  You do indeed know people who believe these things - theres a number of them on this very forum. I'm a little bemused by your insistence these are not ideas of 'the left" - where do they come from then?  You cant discredit atheism so you try and discredit a small minority of the people who believe in it? Why would I want to discredit atheism, when I am an atheist?  And it ain't no "small minority"

Well then what are you trying to prove, shouldn't people be able to believe what they want without having a label?
I could just as easily quiz you on how Nazism is a rightist idea, but that would be pointless.

What am I trying to prove?  bugger knows - a question was asked, I answered it. 

If it would make you happy, maybe we could all just answer "yes" or 'No' and leave it at that?  Wouldn't that be a bit boring?

Not seeing the relevance of nazism thouhg.  Not even in a round about kind of way.  Unless.....unless...nar you're not so dumb as to think I subscribe to nazi ideology?  Or are you?

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:16pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:14pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:11pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:08pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:06pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:04pm: ... wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm: All the ideologies under the "leftwad" banner.  All the ideologies that are aimed at removing any group loyalties greater than the individual.  Any of these statements sound familiar? The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy.  race doesn't exist.  nationalism is evil.  religion is even eviler.  We're global citizens. ie cultural marxism.  Its not like they believe those things for no reason, they come to those conclusions after reviewing fact. Global citizens isnt really leftist tho Facts eh?  I take it you wouldn't have any trouble pointing me in the direction of these *ahem* facts? Well I don't know anyone who thinks the first too and they certainly are not ideas attributed to the left. Nationalism has been responsible for a great number of attrocitites. Need I say anything about religion. It's easy to prove religion has had negative effects.  It's not so easy to prove that it's overall impact is in the negative.  You do indeed know people who believe these things - theres a number of them on this very forum. I'm a little bemused by your insistence these are not ideas of 'the left" - where do they come from then?  You cant discredit atheism so you try and discredit a small minority of the people who believe in it? Why would I want to discredit atheism, when I am an atheist?  And it ain't no "small minority"

So you are a "leftard" with these positions?


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The family is nothing but a social construct reinforcing the patriarchy. race doesn't exist. nationalism is evil. religion is even eviler. We're global citizens. ie cultural marxism.

SOB

... wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:21pm:

What am I trying to prove?  bugger knows - a question was asked, I answered it.  If it would make you happy, maybe we could all just answer "yes" or 'No' and leave it at that?  Wouldn't that be a bit boring? Not seeing the relevance of nazism thouhg.  Not even in a round about kind of way.  Unless.....unless...nar you're not so dumb as to think I subscribe to nazi ideology?  Or are you?

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/007/cache/two-toed-sloth_744_600x450.jpg

*SIGH*

yes borg.  I am a leftwad.  Those are my most sincerely held opinions. 

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Well 2 pages later I will leave this here for Falah.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:39pm:

Falah please tell me what an atheist is. Hint: an atheist is not a jew SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:39pm:

Well 2 pages later I will leave this here for Falah. Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm: Falah please tell me what an atheist is. Hint: an atheist is not a jew SOB

Not necessarily, but he might have been brainwashed by one. How many people followed Jew Karl Marx and his ""Religion is the opium of the people" statement?

falah wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

The Jews will tell you that is an elaborate hoax, but one of the goals mentioned in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is to encourage atheism in order to facilitate their takeover of the world Quote: Chap. 14 The Destruction of Religion as a Prelude to the Rise of the Jewish God

falah - you're an idiot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion


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The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is an antisemitic hoax purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. Henry Ford funded printing of 500,000 copies that were distributed throughout the United States in the 1920s. Adolf Hitler and the Nazis were major proponents of the text. It was studied, as if a factual document, in German classrooms after the Nazi Party came to power in 1933, despite having been exposed as fraudulent years before. In the opinion of historian Norman Cohn, the Protocols was Hitler's primary justification for initiating the Holocaust—his "warrant for genocide".[1] The Protocols purports to document the minutes of a late 19th century meeting of Jewish leaders discussing their goal of global Jewish hegemony by subverting the morals of Gentiles, and by controlling the press and the world's economies. It is still widely available today—still presented, typically, as a genuine document—on the Internet and in print in numerous languages.

Falah - stop peddling your religious nonsense on Ozpolitics.
I don't know how you get away with it?

falah wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:58pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:39pm: Well 2 pages later I will leave this here for Falah. Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm: Falah please tell me what an atheist is. Hint: an atheist is not a jew SOB Not necessarily, but he might have been brainwashed by one. How many people followed Jew Karl Marx and his ""Religion is the opium of the people" statement?

Falah if a jew brainwashed someone to anything it would be judaism. Judaism is a religion. Atheism isnt a belief. Its a lack of belief in a deity.

Got that Falah? Repeat after me so I know you heard it. Atheism is a lack of belief in a deity. Like not collecting stamps is not a hobby.

Say it Falah so I know you heard me.

SOB

falah wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

The Jews will tell you that is an elaborate hoax, but one of the goals mentioned in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is to encourage atheism in order to facilitate their takeover of the world Quote: Chap. 14 The Destruction of Religion as a Prelude to the Rise of the Jewish God

:D


Everything is a Jewish plot. Atheism is a Jewish plot. (this shows your native Islamic fear of and sense of inferiority towards the 'clever Jews'. Anything brainy is suspicious to the Islamic outlook and so the low-brows of sharia are sniffing plots everywhere) Is there anything that is not a Jewish plot??

No... wait! Everything is Allah's will.

No... wait.... it's all a Jewish plot.
No... wait....  It's insh'allah!
No... wait... 


(and so on 'til death or apostasy, whichever comes first. This is a snippet of the constant buzz in Islamists' heads)

That's the thing with taking Islam seriously - it is impossible to keep life and  Islam in focus simultaneously. Either reality or Islamist doctrine has to be violated. Islamist, of course, always line up against common sense, on principle.
The disinfectant light of normal reality is just incompatible with Islamist political doctrine. The constant jumping in and out of reality and unreconstructed pre-medieval stupidity just makes you guys ditzy.

I agree & falah needs to apologise for peddling known false propaganda.

falah wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:58pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 6:39pm: Well 2 pages later I will leave this here for Falah. Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm: Falah please tell me what an atheist is. Hint: an atheist is not a jew SOB Not necessarily, but he might have been brainwashed by one. How many people followed Jew Karl Marx and his ""Religion is the opium of the people" statement?

Watch out for the filthy Yahud falah they might want to brainwash you as well.

I reckon you have been brainwashed by that Islam hogwash, the shahada starts off with "there is no god" and you must be blind because sura 4:82 even has the author of the Quran saing it is not from allah

I suggest you go to an atheist forum here is one it even has a section on that  Islam delusion-
http://www.atheistforums.com/viewforum.php?f=20

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Safran was born in Melbourne, Victoria. After attending North Balwyn Primary School he was sent to Yeshivah College, an Orthodox Jewish high school in St Kilda East...In August 2004 he debuted his new show John Safran vs God, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/John_Safran.jpg/220px-John_Safran.jpg

falah wrote on May 31^st, 2012 at 9:34am:

Quote: Safran was born in Melbourne, Victoria. After attending North Balwyn Primary School he was sent to Yeshivah College, an Orthodox Jewish high school in St Kilda East...In August 2004 he debuted his new show John Safran vs God, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/John_Safran.jpg/220px-John_Safran.jpg

That show wasn't anti religious he just went around trying lots of different religions and stuff

I know the protocols of the elders of zion has been "proven" to be fake.  What I don't know is who "proved" it, and how.  Until that is known, I can't shut the book on it.

It's no secret Jews dominate the media and finance.  It's no secret media and finance have incredible influence over society.

Put 2 and 2 together people. 

... wrote on May 31^st, 2012 at 9:56am:

I know the protocols of the elders of zion has been "proven" to be fake.  What I don't know is who "proved" it, and how.  Until that is known, I can't shut the book on it. It's no secret Jews dominate the media and finance.  It's no secret media and finance have incredible influence over society. Put 2 and 2 together people.

Well it is a bit hard to believe everything just fell into place for them accidently.

Finance has 100% control over society because it encompasses everything.
Every country on earth is controlled by a jewish minority run financial system. Entire armies can be destroyed by the drop of a dollar.

Are atheists suckers? Probably, but not as big a sucker as those who follow moronic religious beliefs

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 6:39pm:

Well 2 pages later I will leave this here for Falah. Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:39pm: Falah please tell me what an atheist is. Hint: an atheist is not a jew SOB

bump

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 31^st, 2012 at 10:00am:

Every country on earth is controlled by a jewish minority run financial system. Entire armies can be destroyed by the drop of a dollar.

That's a bit of an exageration. I don't think Russia,  Iran, China, or Venezuela are controlled by Jews. Looks like Egypt and Greece might take control of their own affairs soon too.

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