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Fair Work Australia has been recalled to Senate Estimates amid claims of a "smoking gun" memo which suggested police action be taken against the Health Services Union three years ago. Fair Work Australia officials finished giving their evidence to the Senate Estimates hearing yesterday. But Coalition Senator Eric Abetz has asked that they be recalled, saying he has proof Fair Work Australia had evidence three years ago that problems at the union should have been referred to police. He says he has acquired a 2009 memo from the head of the then Industrial Relations Commission, Doug Williams, as he was handing over to the body's replacement, Fair Work Australia. In the memo, Mr Williams says there needs to be a plan in place for any outcomes arising from the HSU inquiry. He suggests a referral to other authorities. Senator Abetz has described the memo as a "smoking gun" and says he now has more questions for Fair Work Australia. "These are very, very serious issues when three years ago, the possibility of police action was contemplated," he said. "The key question is, why did Fair Work Australia not act on the advice of the former industrial registrar, Mr Williams, that these matters should be referred to the police?" Last night, after Fair Work Australia officials had finished giving evidence to a Senate Estimates committee, it released some answers and documents requested at the last estimates hearing in February. The memo written by Mr Williams was among those documents. It was addressed to Terry Nassios, the man in charge of Fair Work Australia's investigation into Mr Thomson and the HSU. The memo was also copied to others within Fair Work Australia and was marked "high importance". The report into the HSU was finished in March, but only referred to police last month courtesy of the Director of Public Prosecutions, not Fair Work Australia. Liberal senators now want to know why that was not done three years ago. "We do not accept any excuse for these delays," Senator Abetz said. The Opposition is angry the information was released after officials appeared before Senate Estimates yesterday and they believe it was done deliberately to avoid answering questions.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-29/fair-work-to-give-more-evidence-over-thomson/4039800

wonder if it is this that they are looking into



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She spoke out not to get Craig Thomson MP, she said, but to clean up the HSU. But, in a stunning IA exclusive, Peter Wicks uncovers compelling documentary evidence to suggest HSU “whistleblower” Kathy Jackson may have herself misappropriated Union funds. http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2584/kathyjackson.png HSU national secretary Kathy Jackson (image courtesy ABC). It has been almost a week now since Australians sat mesmerised as they watched Craig Thomson tell his side of the HSU saga in an address to Federal Parliament, where he still sits — although now as an Independent member. And it has been almost 2 weeks since Independent Australia first broke the story of the tangled web behind the scenes of the Fair Work Australia Investigation. A web made up of a Liberal Party aligned think tank; the Liberal Party’s favourite lawyers; a factional battle; a Union “whistleblower”; this whistleblower’s partner; the whistleblower’s partner’s mate, the Opposition leader; and the whistleblowers partner’s organisation – where the partner is 2nd in charge – doing a five year investigation and finally issuing a report full of findings — most of which were dismissed by the Australian Electoral Commission within just a few days. If you have not read our previous articles, it is worth reading them here for background into this investigation. [Read the previous stories in this series: Part One, Part Two, Part Three and Part Four.[/url] The original article Independent Australia published was highly controversial. It highlighted a web of connections that have raised questions about the credibility and good faith of the union whistleblower, Kathy Jackson, and exposed the massive conflicts of interest of Fair Work Australia’s Vice President, Michael Lawler. These issues have placed a huge question mark over the entire Fair Work Australia investigation and its findings — most of which have been disproved by the AEC anyway, as we said before. It is worth remembering that there have been seven – that’s right, seven – prior investigations that have each concluded that Craig Thomson had no case to answer. This FWA investigation, however, has been the first investigation to be conducted by the body for which Craig’s accuser, Kathy Jackson’s partner, holds the position of Vice President. With this in mind, the results should come as no real surprise. The FWA investigation was set up to investigate financial irregularities within the Health Services Union. Most of the findings, however, centred around Craig Thomson. Kathy Jackson, in contrast, comes up smelling like roses in her partner’s organisation’s investigation — what a shock that was. http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5808/jacksonlawler.jpg The FWA investigation lasted five long years — longer than World War One; longer than many people spent in high school; longer, even, than every Australian Big Brother series to date combined. In the process of their investigation, FWA had access to the HSU files, records, offices, computers, staff, and even organized a police raid. Over five years, they had all the time, resources and personnel for a completely thorough and meticulous investigation of every aspect of the HSU. However, in just over five days, with none of the other resources FWA had access to, we have uncovered new evidence that FWA – Kathy Jackson’s partner’s team – conveniently missed. It is fair to say that the allegations against Craig Thomson are based primarily on information provided by Jackson. The evidence, which Thomson disputes and the other seven investigations dismissed, was presented by Fair Work Australia — the organisation where Michael Lawler, Jackson’s partner, is Vice President. Paramount to the Opposition bringing Craig Thomson down, is maintaining the integrity of Kathy Jackson, Michael Lawler, and the Fair Work Australia investigation. That combined with a sickening display of personal attacks from the Coalition that have highlighted the inner ugliness of some of the Liberal front bench. And after all the muck-racking and personal attacks from the Coalition frontbench, Tony Abbott today had the audacity to suggest that Craig Thomson [url=http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/craig-thomson-should-be-allowed-to-quit-tony-abbott-announces/story-e6freuzr-1226366800399]resign from Parliament — apparently for his own good. This whole Craig Thomson affair has a nauseating stench to it — and very little of it seems to be coming from the man so much under attack. Especially given I have in my possession many documents that have come from within the HSU that go towards the integrity of Craig’s accusers. These include copies of transactions, copies of cheque butts, original cheque requisitions, and remittances with signatures — all show details of transactions would appear to be extremely irregular. For legal reasons, we cannot show most of these documents, however there are a few we will share with you here. Both myself and Independent Australia would like to make clear that all of the original documents that are in my possession will be made available for any investigation by the Independent Commission Against Corruption or any Police investigation. I am also happy to provide copies for any kind of parliamentary enquiry. Some of these documents raise important questions that I will put out there now. [youtube]cSUIRCTyHNY[/youtube] Firstly, as some of you may remember, during an interview on ABC’s 7.30 programme on Monday, (transcript) Kathy Jackson answered “I reject all those claims” when asked whether the Union paid for specific things such as her gym, car, and also child care. Here is the relevant exchange: CHRIS UHLMANN: Well Mr Thomson’s made many accusations about you as you have of him. He points out that you drive a union paid for Volvo, that your child care and gym fees are paid for, you have taken numerous overseas trips at the expense of the union and that you’re salary doubled in the weeks after he left at $270,000. KATHY JACKSON: I reject all those claims…. This link, however, shows records of payments from the Health Services Union to Minifie Park Child Care Association. Some transactions are identified as “Staff Benefits”, and one as “Staff Uniforms”. Some of the electronic transaction records even show Kathy Jackson’s child’s name as a reference. http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8091/minifiechildcare.png The Minifie Park Child Care Centre is, quite literally, just around the corner from Kathy Jackson’s residence, where she allegedly spends most nights with Fair Work Australia’s Vice President Michael Lawler. When I contacted the child care centre, I was told that they do not have uniforms. However, when I asked what staff benefits there are being paid for with HSU member’s funds, I was told by their Director, Julie Oliver, quite abruptly, to contact their solicitor, whose details I was not given. These transactions seem to suggest that not only was Jackson concealing the truth during her interview on 7.30, but also that she may have been using Union funds to pay her substantial child care costs and was allegedly hiding the transactions in different accounts as general HSU expenses. Secondly, I also have original cheque requisitions and remittances in my possession that bear the approval signature of a Kathy Jackson. These documents detail payments, and have matching cheque numbers for payments, made to a company called Neranto No 10 — mostly for consultancy services. There are a rather large number of these payments, so I thought it best to have a look at Neranto No 10. A company search shows that Neranto No 10 was from 1994, until it was deregistered on 16 November 2008, owned and directed by Jeffrey Peter Jackson and Katherine Koukouvaos. Koukouvaos is Kathy Jackson’s maiden name and Jeffrey Jackson is her former husband. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1405/neranto10.png There are also documents that give a detailed breakdown of the hours of consultancy work being invoiced, and also details of travel expenses. These hours are totalled up and invoiced. It is important to remember that at the time these hours were being invoiced from her company, Neranto No 10, Jackson was also being paid a wage by the HSU.

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There are several companies registered in Victoria that bear the name Neranto, they go all the way to No 15. It would be interesting to know how many of these are owned by Jackson, and which organisation is their biggest client. The HSU No 3 Branch of which Kathy Jackson was General Secretary before the branch merged into HSU East, declared expenditure of $276,028 for consultancy fees between 2004 and 2008, that is over a quarter of a million dollars. I believe it warrants investigation in order to determine just how much of that expenditure ended up being paid to a company owned by Kathy Jackson — the person, it would appear, who approved the cheque requisitions. Of course, there may be a perfectly innocent explanation for all this… In the meantime, I believe what the union members would like to see is some transparency from Jackson. By this, I mean opening up the financial records of these companies so that it can be determined to what extent the membership were invoiced for the companies “consultancy services”. I do have to ask though, if these seemingly irregular transactions could be found so quickly by me, then shouldn’t one question the why Fair Work Australia did not uncover them. With glaring irregularities such as this missed, and Craig Thomson bearing the brunt of the allegations, I have to question why. Given that these irregularities involve Jackson, the partner of Fair Work Australia’s Vice President, Michael Lawler, only heightens my curiosity. Also given that Craig Thomson’s expulsion from parliament would likely cause the Labor Government to collapse, thus elevating Tony Abbott – the man who appointed Lawler to his position – to Prime Minister makes the investigation seem even more questionable. It is my belief that the financial irregularities within the HSU that involve Kathy Jackson warrant further investigation. I am not saying that she is guilty, as I believe guilt should be determined by a court, not by me, or the Leader Of Opposition Business. I would also like to see someone ensure that any funds that may have been taken fraudulently from members are returned as soon as possible — if such a thing is proven to have occurred. Given these findings, and given the relationship between Kathy Jackson and Michael Lawler, whom Kathy acknowledged discussing HSU matters with on the ABC’s 7.30 this week, I have major questions as to the integrity of the Fair Work Australia investigation. Particularly when one considers that as she was discussing these matters with her partner he was Vice President of the organisation investigating the Union where she was Secretary. In addition to this, you may remember, from one of our previous articles, that Jackson appeared to have access to a Fair Work Australia computer which she appears to have saved documents from. Imagine an organised crime figure being allowed access to the investigation files on his crime syndicate while an investigation is in place Adding to my doubts on the investigations integrity, is the decision for both the head investigator of Fair Work Australia, and Michael Lawler to suddenly go on “Long Leave” last Friday. This was the working day before Craig Thomson’s speech, and also not long after Independent Australia raised questions regarding Lawler’s involvement and conflicts of interest. [youtube] 2nrqF0fZb6M[/youtube] It is fortunate for Jackson that she is receiving free legal services from both James Ashby’s lawyer, and also Stuart Wood in Melbourne. You may remember Wood is from HR Nicholls, a Liberal Party aligned Think Tank dedicated to destroying trade unionism, with former Coalition frontbencher Peter Reith as a board member and contributors such as Andrew Bolt, Eric Abetz, Peter Costello, Michael Kroger, and of course Tony Abbott. Kathy Jackson is, against the wishes of the HSU, soon to speak at a HR Nicholls function — strange behaviour for a trade unionist. (You can see who attends and speaks at these functions by watching the video above.) As I said before, we are happy to provide all the documents we are in possession of for any official investigation into this matter — we have them in a safe place. Again, we are not stating that anybody is guilty or innocent of any crime, only putting a case forward for further investigation into the Union and maybe even Fair Work Australia itself. Suddenly, Craig Thomson’s so called “conspiracy theories” are beginning to look more and more believable — as details and documents, such as the ones shown here, emerge. Tony Abbott has called Kathy Jackson “credible” and “heroic” — and this is something he may come to regret.  Call it a hunch, but I think Jackson’s free legal services from one of the Liberal Party’s nearest and dearest may come in quite handy. But, then again, that’s just a hunch. [youtube]Wm28jYV7388[/youtube] http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/254/afternoontea.png

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/thomson-and-jackson-5-sticky-fingers/

goodness me valley boy you sure can bring up some serious information.. I understand how its all meant to shoot the messenger..

but having said that... what about all the deeds about THOMO.. I am sure you can infiltrate that as well.. like copies of receipts for the hookers will be a start as this is where it all started..

I am sure paying childcare fees was quite common in days of yore... yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn. in some cases companies paid school fees...so what?.. it part of a package deal..


DONT THINK HOOKERS comes under package deals though..

did she steal $500.000 dollars.??

its okay we realize

a $1700 childcare bill is worth a lot more than $500.000 unaccounted for dollars...????

sad but true...

if you are going to continue killing the whistleblower... how about you at least show us the evidence you and THOMO have to prove he is innocent.?

dont say you dont have it.. as you must be an insider to be able to access all this strange information that all points to Jackson and not a word about THOMO>.

of course you can be sucked in .. again its your choice.. I dont buy it though

My goodness cods, you really are thicker than the average house brick aren't you?

Or is it just that you're in denial of how much egg would be on your face after ranting endlessly about Thomson over the past year?

My guess is both.

So much for the "smoking gun".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-30/smoking-gun-takes-a-hit-in-senate-estimates/4040888

Another Lieberals lie. When will we get some pointy questions directed at the opposition?

cods wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:

goodness me valley boy you sure can bring up some serious information.. I understand how its all meant to shoot the messenger.. but having said that... what about all the deeds about THOMO.. I am sure you can infiltrate that as well.. like copies of receipts for the hookers will be a start as this is where it all started.. I am sure paying childcare fees was quite common in days of yore... yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn. in some cases companies paid school fees...so what?.. it part of a package deal.. DONT THINK HOOKERS comes under package deals though.. did she steal $500.000 dollars.?? its okay we realize a $1700 childcare bill is worth a lot more than $500.000 unaccounted for dollars...???? sad but true... if you are going to continue killing the whistleblower... how about you at least show us the evidence you and THOMO have to prove he is innocent.? dont say you dont have it.. as you must be an insider to be able to access all this strange information that all points to Jackson and not a word about THOMO>. of course you can be sucked in .. again its your choice.. I dont buy it though

Cods, it's a C & P from a looney web site.

Valley Boy has no inside information. He isn't that bright.

There is more to come of this

One Question is why was Michael Lawler, Kathy Jackson and Christopher Pyne having coffee together the other day?

wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 9:08am:

There is more to come of this One Question is why was Michael Lawler, Kathy Jackson and Christopher Pyne having coffee together the other day?

Now my friends and I are worried we maybe outed for having coffee together yesterday.

Come to think of it there were a couple of shady characters near by speaking into their wrists.

Hope they enjoyed hearing about menopause, bladder weakness  and having to wear  continence pads.

Gist wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 8:37am:

My goodness cods, you really are thicker than the average house brick aren't you? Or is it just that you're in denial of how much egg would be on your face after ranting endlessly about Thomson over the past year? My guess is both.

YOU ARE SO RUDE..... WHY???? IS IT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT i AM SAYING IS RIGHT???


IF SOMEONE HAS ALL THIS INFORMATION ABOUT THE WHISTLEBLOWER..


DOESNT YOUR TINY BRAIN ASK THE QUESTION...


WELL IF YOU KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT JACKSON..


HOW ABOUT THE TRUTH ON THOMO...

AFTER ALL HE HAS MADE SOME VERY VERY SERIOUS ACCUSATIONS IN PARLIAMENT..

THAT HE WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TOO..


SO ALL I ASK IS FOR VALLEY BOY!!

WHO APPEARS TO HAVE UNTOLD ACCESS TO INFORMATION ON THIS""" PARTICULAR CASE.""".

TO TELL US JUST WHAT THOMO HAS THAT IS PROOF OF HIS INNOCENCE.


YOU DONT LIKE TALKING ABOUT THOMO DO YOU??... WE KNOW THAT AND i CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING AND ANYONE.. IN FACT NOW i KNOW IT GIVES YOU THE SH!TS i WILL DO IT EVEN MORE SO.

I DONT LIKE RUDE PEOPLE.


you just come on here to be rude to people.. not a word about the topic.. typical of a loser.

wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 9:08am:

There is more to come of this One Question is why was Michael Lawler, Kathy Jackson and Christopher Pyne having coffee together the other day?

more questions... why did THOMO have two creditcards.?

why did THOMO have his driver licence/credit card/mobil phone stolen.. yet no report to police..

why have ALL the accusations THOMO made in parliament about FWA.. been dismissed as lies or dillusional..

there is no evidence at all of anything he claims...


why did THOMO sign off on every payment that has been credited to him over about 4 years???


if he was in another country at the time of one so called offence.. why doesnt he tell the police that and show the evidence.???



questions questions.. questions..

there are a million of them


what Jackson does in her spare time is her business.. she IS NOT UNDER INVESTIGATION.

as as far as I know if you have any evidence in this case then should you not tell the appropriate committee that is investigating it????

angeleyes wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 9:35am:

wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 9:08am: There is more to come of this One Question is why was Michael Lawler, Kathy Jackson and Christopher Pyne having coffee together the other day? Now my friends and I are worried we maybe outed for having coffee together yesterday. Come to think of it there were a couple of shady characters near by speaking into their wrists. Hope they enjoyed hearing about menopause, bladder weakness  and having to wear  continence pads.

maybe they borrowed the Table of Knowledge from the labor crooks in Wollongong..


hilarious!

angeleyes wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 8:45am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 9:15pm: goodness me valley boy you sure can bring up some serious information.. I understand how its all meant to shoot the messenger.. but having said that... what about all the deeds about THOMO.. I am sure you can infiltrate that as well.. like copies of receipts for the hookers will be a start as this is where it all started.. I am sure paying childcare fees was quite common in days of yore... yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn. in some cases companies paid school fees...so what?.. it part of a package deal.. DONT THINK HOOKERS comes under package deals though.. did she steal $500.000 dollars.?? its okay we realize a $1700 childcare bill is worth a lot more than $500.000 unaccounted for dollars...???? sad but true... if you are going to continue killing the whistleblower... how about you at least show us the evidence you and THOMO have to prove he is innocent.? dont say you dont have it.. as you must be an insider to be able to access all this strange information that all points to Jackson and not a word about THOMO>. of course you can be sucked in .. again its your choice.. I dont buy it though Cods, it's a C & P from a looney web site. Valley Boy has no inside information. He isn't that bright.

thanks for that I am just pulling him on.. he is printing it up all over the boards...

I say if you have it.. tell the right people.. if not shut up..it isnt Jackson thats on trial here.

although the looney left wish it was.

Gist wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 8:43am:

So much for the "smoking gun". http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-30/smoking-gun-takes-a-hit-in-senate-estimates/4040888 Another Lieberals lie. When will we get some pointy questions directed at the opposition?

If you are going to quote - at least do some research. He's the exact context of the memo

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-29/fair-work-to-give-more-evidence-over-thomson/4039800

    There should be a clear plan and actions arising from the outcome of the inquiries to date, including, inter alia, any actions and referrals to other authorities, e.g. the police because of identified malfeasance, which can occur on the strength of discoveries from inquiries which do not require further investigation.
    Doug Williams, memo excerpt



All that says is they should probably think about having an action plan for the findings and if it means they need to refer it to the police then so be it!

Maqqa wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

Gist wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 8:43am: So much for the "smoking gun". http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-30/smoking-gun-takes-a-hit-in-senate-estimates/4040888 Another Lieberals lie. When will we get some pointy questions directed at the opposition? If you are going to quote - at least do some research. He's the exact context of the memo http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-29/fair-work-to-give-more-evidence-over-thomson/4039800     There should be a clear plan and actions arising from the outcome of the inquiries to date, including, inter alia, any actions and referrals to other authorities, e.g. the police because of identified malfeasance, which can occur on the strength of discoveries from inquiries which do not require further investigation.     Doug Williams, memo excerpt All that says is they should probably think about having an action plan for the findings and if it means they need to refer it to the police then so be it!

you know one has to ask... what would the out come have been had they done just that...

referred it to the police in the very first instance.

we probably wouldnt know the half of what this guy is being accused of.

cods wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

I say if you have it.. tell the right people.. if not shut up..it isnt Jackson thats on trial here. although the looney left wish it was.

Well actually it is - the fair work enquiry and all the investigations have been about the union and specifically Thompson, Williams and Jackson.

As you say we can all be forgiven for forgetting that small point, it is clearly not the case the Liberals are interested in prosecuting.

Just shows that nobody gives a rats about the union members funds being improperly spent, its only relevant if you can use it to get Thomson.

Dnarever wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 9:53am: I say if you have it.. tell the right people.. if not shut up..it isnt Jackson thats on trial here. although the looney left wish it was. Well actually it is - the fair work enquiry and all the investigations have been about the union and specifically Thompson, Williams and Jackson. As you say we can all be forgiven for forgetting that small point, it is clearly not the case the Liberals are interested in prosecuting. Just shows that nobody gives a rats about the union members funds being improperly spent, its only relevant if you can use it to get Thomson.

So was Jackson cited in the FWA report?

Just shows that nobody gives a rats about the union members funds being improperly spent, its only relevant if you can use it to get Thomson.

But but but, Julia keeps saying "Labor politics is about what is best for millions and millions of working people,"

angeleyes wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

Just shows that nobody gives a rats about the union members funds being improperly spent, its only relevant if you can use it to get Thomson. But but but, Julia keeps saying "Labor politics is about what is best for millions and millions of working people,"

Hey longy, didn't you have a bet with someone that gillard wouldn't beat abbott in preferred pm polls?

Maqqa wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:06am:

Dnarever wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:04am: cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 9:53am: I say if you have it.. tell the right people.. if not shut up..it isnt Jackson thats on trial here. although the looney left wish it was. Well actually it is - the fair work enquiry and all the investigations have been about the union and specifically Thompson, Williams and Jackson. As you say we can all be forgiven for forgetting that small point, it is clearly not the case the Liberals are interested in prosecuting. Just shows that nobody gives a rats about the union members funds being improperly spent, its only relevant if you can use it to get Thomson. So was Jackson cited in the FWA report?

Would you expect someone who is going horizontal with fair works second in charge to be in the report?

Dnarever wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:19am:

Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:06am: Dnarever wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:04am: cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 9:53am: I say if you have it.. tell the right people.. if not shut up..it isnt Jackson thats on trial here. although the looney left wish it was. Well actually it is - the fair work enquiry and all the investigations have been about the union and specifically Thompson, Williams and Jackson. As you say we can all be forgiven for forgetting that small point, it is clearly not the case the Liberals are interested in prosecuting. Just shows that nobody gives a rats about the union members funds being improperly spent, its only relevant if you can use it to get Thomson. So was Jackson cited in the FWA report? Would you expect someone who is going horizontal with fair works second in charge to be in the report?

So the answer is no - other than the assumption that she's sleeping with the second in charge therefore she's not in the report because of that?

Maqqa wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

All that says is they should probably think about having an action plan for the findings and if it means they need to refer it to the police then so be it!

Yes, I agree, that's what it says. But Abetz was claiming that the memo said they SHOULD BE REFERRING matters to police. That it was a "smoking gun". It doesn't say that at all. The only smoking guns belong to the opposition.

Maqqa wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:23am:

Dnarever wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:19am: Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:06am: Dnarever wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:04am: cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 9:53am: I say if you have it.. tell the right people.. if not shut up..it isnt Jackson thats on trial here. although the looney left wish it was. Well actually it is - the fair work enquiry and all the investigations have been about the union and specifically Thompson, Williams and Jackson. As you say we can all be forgiven for forgetting that small point, it is clearly not the case the Liberals are interested in prosecuting. Just shows that nobody gives a rats about the union members funds being improperly spent, its only relevant if you can use it to get Thomson. So was Jackson cited in the FWA report? Would you expect someone who is going horizontal with fair works second in charge to be in the report? So the answer is no - other than the assumption that she's sleeping with the second in charge therefore she's not in the report because of that?

She does get a minor mention in terms of not being on time with a financial report and missing meetings, nothing about any of the other things which have been shown and interesting enough no sign of any related questions or investigations.

Looking at the report only one person was really investigated at all.

she's sleeping with the second in charge

That is what has been stated, nobody had denied it and the guy in question has been on leave ever since.

therefore she's not in the report because of that?

There are areas where things not only have to be right they need to be seen to be right, In a case of a very significant conflict of interest clear public steps of seperation need to be taken - they aparently wern't.

The people doing this invertigation work directly for a person with a vested interest in the outcome of the process.

It is a very bad look at best and exactly what it looks like at worst.

This is kindergarden stuff the type of error which makes the whole report worthless.

Maqqa wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:06am:

Dnarever wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:04am: cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 9:53am: I say if you have it.. tell the right people.. if not shut up..it isnt Jackson thats on trial here. although the looney left wish it was. Well actually it is - the fair work enquiry and all the investigations have been about the union and specifically Thompson, Williams and Jackson. As you say we can all be forgiven for forgetting that small point, it is clearly not the case the Liberals are interested in prosecuting. Just shows that nobody gives a rats about the union members funds being improperly spent, its only relevant if you can use it to get Thomson. So was Jackson cited in the FWA report?

In an organisation with so many of the management engaging in corrupt practices? Clearly she should have been investigated. Why was she not?

she's sleeping with the second in charge


So?

Gist wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:53am:

Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:06am: Dnarever wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:04am: cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 9:53am: I say if you have it.. tell the right people.. if not shut up..it isnt Jackson thats on trial here. although the looney left wish it was. Well actually it is - the fair work enquiry and all the investigations have been about the union and specifically Thompson, Williams and Jackson. As you say we can all be forgiven for forgetting that small point, it is clearly not the case the Liberals are interested in prosecuting. Just shows that nobody gives a rats about the union members funds being improperly spent, its only relevant if you can use it to get Thomson. So was Jackson cited in the FWA report? In an organisation with so many of the management engaging in corrupt practices? Clearly she should have been investigated. Why was she not?

If you are accusing a legislated body (FWA) of corruption then please provide evidence.

This is like accusing the ATO of corruption. Even Paul Hogan settled out of court despite protesting his innocence at their FINDINGS

Dnarever wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:23am: Dnarever wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:19am: Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:06am: Dnarever wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:04am: cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 9:53am: I say if you have it.. tell the right people.. if not shut up..it isnt Jackson thats on trial here. although the looney left wish it was. Well actually it is - the fair work enquiry and all the investigations have been about the union and specifically Thompson, Williams and Jackson. As you say we can all be forgiven for forgetting that small point, it is clearly not the case the Liberals are interested in prosecuting. Just shows that nobody gives a rats about the union members funds being improperly spent, its only relevant if you can use it to get Thomson. So was Jackson cited in the FWA report? Would you expect someone who is going horizontal with fair works second in charge to be in the report? So the answer is no - other than the assumption that she's sleeping with the second in charge therefore she's not in the report because of that? She does get a minor mention in terms of not being on time with a financial report and missing meetings, nothing about any of the other things which have been shown and interesting enough no sign of any related questions or investigations. Looking at the report only one person was really investigated at all. she's sleeping with the second in charge That is what has been stated, nobody had denied it and the guy in question has been on leave ever since. therefore she's not in the report because of that? There are areas where things not only have to be right they need to be seen to be right, In a case of a very significant conflict of interest clear public steps of seperation need to be taken - they aparently wern't. The people doing this invertigation work directly for a person with a vested interest in the outcome of the process. It is a very bad look at best and exactly what it looks like at worst. This is kindergarden stuff the type of error which makes the whole report worthless.

So she was late in providing so info and missed meetings which is not a breach - yet you are focusing on these events but ignore the 181 breaches??!!

Maqqa wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 11:05am:

Gist wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:53am: Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:06am: Dnarever wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:04am: cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 9:53am: I say if you have it.. tell the right people.. if not shut up..it isnt Jackson thats on trial here. although the looney left wish it was. Well actually it is - the fair work enquiry and all the investigations have been about the union and specifically Thompson, Williams and Jackson. As you say we can all be forgiven for forgetting that small point, it is clearly not the case the Liberals are interested in prosecuting. Just shows that nobody gives a rats about the union members funds being improperly spent, its only relevant if you can use it to get Thomson. So was Jackson cited in the FWA report? In an organisation with so many of the management engaging in corrupt practices? Clearly she should have been investigated. Why was she not? If you are accusing a legislated body (FWA) of corruption then please provide evidence. This is like accusing the ATO of corruption. Even Paul Hogan settled out of court despite protesting his innocence at their FINDINGS

I do not see where he has accused fair work of being corrupt.

You seem too smart to fail with comprehension so often (inadvertently).

Maqqa wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 11:06am:

Dnarever wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:49am: Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:23am: So the answer is no - other than the assumption that she's sleeping with the second in charge therefore she's not in the report because of that? She does get a minor mention in terms of not being on time with a financial report and missing meetings, nothing about any of the other things which have been shown and interesting enough no sign of any related questions or investigations. So she was late in providing so info and missed meetings which is not a breach - yet you are focusing on these events but ignore the 181 breaches??!!

Comprehension again?

You asked if she was in the report and then interpreted my answer as no..

Macca
So the answer is no -

I pointed out that she got a minor mention (as asked by you not making a big deal about it).

Dna
She does get a minor mention in terms of not being on time with a financial report and missing meetings,

Macca
yet you are focusing on these events

No - I am clearly not focused on it just answered the question you asked.

Do you deliberately not understand?

Maqqa wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 11:05am:

If you are accusing a legislated body (FWA) of corruption then please provide evidence. This is like accusing the ATO of corruption. Even Paul Hogan settled out of court despite protesting his innocence at their FINDINGS

No I'm not outright accusing FWA of being corrupt. But it does seem to me that in an organisation with so many problems among management as HSU had, it's a pretty glaring omission for FWA NOT to investigate a senior person. That omission could be because of corruption or it could just as easily be due to incompetence.

Either way, who knows what would be found if an investigation was done? So far it appears nobody else has had clean hands so why would anyone who is not a house brick assume Jackson lilly white?

Gist wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 11:37am:

Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:05am: If you are accusing a legislated body (FWA) of corruption then please provide evidence. This is like accusing the ATO of corruption. Even Paul Hogan settled out of court despite protesting his innocence at their FINDINGS No I'm not outright accusing FWA of being corrupt. But it does seem to me that in an organisation with so many problems among management as HSU had, it's a pretty glaring omission for FWA NOT to investigate a senior person. That omission could be because of corruption or it could just as easily be due to incompetence. Either way, who knows what would be found if an investigation was done? So far it appears nobody else has had clean hands so why would anyone who is not a house brick assume Jackson lilly white?

You either accuse them or you are not accusing them. They are a legislated body and if there are proof of corruption then it should be referred to the appropriate authorities for investigation. Otherwise you have nothing!!

Gist, along with most of the looney left belong to the 'may, maybe, could, what if' party.

Matty supports Mr Abbott as the member for Warringah.

An interesting article, just for you Cods seeing your so outraged at this scandal.

Its a bit long so I'll post a few salient points & a link.


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Another ground-breaking investigative report from Peter Wicks shows evidence of huge unexplained payments being made to HSU “whistleblower” Kathy Jackson — as Craig Thomson’s so-called “conspiracy theories” begin to look more and more believable.

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However, as we have written about over the past fortnight, with the evidence of Michael Lawler’s massive conflicts of interest, which also includes his active involvement in HSU politics on behalf of Kathy Jackson (as has now finally been reported by the ABC in the last 24 hours), Lawler’s seniority within the FWA does lead many, including us, to have deep misgivings about the even-handedness and veracity of the FWA investigation. This is magnified when we consider that it appears as if Kathy Jackson has had access to FWA computers, and used them to send HSU material, as we’ve previously reported.

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These reservations are multiplied again, when one considers that when Nassios asked the HSU to provide all the financial and management records for the time period that Craig Thomson was working for the HSU — it was Kathy Jackson who personally delivered the 4 boxes of records, containing just 12 folders. That’s right, Craig Thomson’s main accuser was the one who checked out all the records and then personally delivered them to the FWA. Once Nassios checked through the records, he found that many documents he had expected to find, like the minutes of all HSU national office board meetings, were not included in those 12 folders. Nassios says he rang the HSU but was unable to talk to Kathy Jackson as she had left the country, so he asked other staff there if there were any records that had failed to be delivered to him. The staff assured him that he had been given the records but couldn’t confirm that this was, in fact, the case. All they could say definitively was that Kathy Jackson had checked out all the records — none of them were present when she delivered the documents.

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The first question that should be asked is why a senior union official, who was being paid over a quarter of a million dollars per annum, plus benefits, was doing such a mundane job as being a courier? Secondly, what proof is there that she actually delivered all the records? Thirdly, why did Nassios not question the fact that Jackson had just had unrestricted access to the records immediately before they came into his possession?

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It seems that one of the reasons the FWA report took so long to complete was that Nassios was, right up until the 2nd half of last year, still trying to get the missing board minutes from the FWA. If Craig Thomson is actually telling the truth about trying to implement proper procedures, controls and standards of accounting at the HSU while being actively resisted by Kathy Jackson— then those minutes going missing would indeed be most advantageous to Jackson, as they would be the exact records that could prove this one way or the other.

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From our investigations, however, it is abundantly clear that the rot in the HSU was far more extensive than just one or two corrupt individuals. And the more I look into it, the more information I uncover, and the more documents that find their way into my hands — the more I understand why HSU members are so livid. The following video is instructive as to the extent of the factional in-fighting and allegations of corruption by multiple officials at the HSU:

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There are those who have pointed out to me that, according to the Murdoch press, Craig Thomson has over $500,000 worth of union money to explain. Many of these people point out that the approximately $26,000 of questionable Union funds that we have exposed – which Craig’s accuser Kathy Jackson needs to explain – is small-fry in comparison. Contrary to those assertions, the Australian Electoral Commission has cleared has, in fact, cleared most of the accusations about Craig’s electoral funding, which apparently made up the bulk of the $500,000. This in turn has brought the amount of unexplained funding down to about $17,000. It must also be remembered, these funds were used for union advertising, as part of the anti-WorkChoices campaign — not going straight to Thomson’s bank account. There are no allegations I can find that suggest any payments had been made directly to Craig Thomson.

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It appears, judging by this statement, that Jackson does not like to see unnecessary expenditure and, indeed, is willing to make personal sacrifices for the good of the members. It is commendable, yet rather odd, that after receiving this salary for years, she had only chosen to address her excessive pay now — still, better late than never, I guess. While Kathy Jackson’s statement on 7.30 may seem honourable to some – including Tony Abbott, who called her a hero – documents that have come into my possession paint a rather different picture. [NOTE: All documents, by the way, will be turned over to any police or official investigation upon request. We want to make clear that we have no – and never at any time had any – intention of retaining possession of these documents and will make all reasonable efforts, once our investigations are complete, to return all items to their rightful and lawful owners.]     From the HSU Vic No. 3 Branch  minutes: Kathy Jackson’s “honorarium” According to these documents, Kathy Jackson claimed, and was paid, $63,000 on 30 June 2010. The payment was called an “honorarium” and was, according to the HSU – Victorian Branch No. 3 minutes, simply performing her duties as the Branch Secretary and were in addition to her $270,000 annual salary. If somebody really wanted to reduce their wage by $100,000 then, to me, it would seem logical not to claim an extra $63,000 when it was not necessary she do so. Even more seriously, the 2010 Auditors by Agostinelli and Perlen, Chartered Accountants, into the HSU – Vic No. 3 Branch has a payment that stands out alarmingly, to say the very least. On page 18 of that report, it shows an amount described as “Key Management Personnel Compensation”. The only recipient listed is Katherine Jackson — and it is for $522,570. That’s over half a million dollars taken from some of the nation’s lowest paid workers.

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ndependent Australia and I have both have received numerous anonymous tips to look into the HESTA fund and its trustee’s. Unfortunately, we have not had the time to thoroughly do so. It is, however, interesting to note that on 15 August 2007, there is a payment for Accommodation and Travel to Kathy Jackson marked ‘HESTA’ for $13,100. That’s some travel expense. Indeed, in just two weeks, we have found payments to Kathy Jackson, and to her children’s Child Care Centre, totalling $659,063.18. Bear in mind that Kathy Jackson is not an investment banker, she is a union official representing low-paid healthy service workers. Below is a breakdown:     $4,860.72 – K. Koukavaos Consulting     $36,867.46 – Neranto No. 10, for consultancy services     $13,100 – Katherine Jackson direct, for Accommodation and travel HESTA     $12,500 – Katherine Jackson direct, for postage and shipping. Apparently lots of shipping…     $63,000 – Katherine Jackson direct, for an Honorarium payment     $6,165 – Minifie Park Child Care Association, apparent staff benefits and uniforms     $522,570 – Katherine Jackson direct – Key Management Personnel Compensation Documentation of these payments may be accessed on our site via the links mentioned above.

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In the thousands of messages we have received, there was just one that expressed concern for Jackson’s partner, Michael Lawler, Vice President of Fair Work Australia. Lawler has, as we’ve reported, been on “Long Leave” suddenly the working day before Thomson’s address to parliament and has been keeping a low profile since. We have some good news for that person, and anyone else with concerns for Lawler. According to several eye-witness reports we have received, he was spotted last week looking dapper and as fresh as a daisy in a café, having a cuppa with his partner Kathy Jackson, along with the manager of Opposition Business Christopher Pyne. The same Christopher Pyne who had a late night drinking session James Ashby. Hmmm…

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/thomson-6-the-falling-few-and-the-fall-guy/



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Maqqa wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 1:04pm:

You either accuse them or you are not accusing them. They are a legislated body and if there are proof of corruption then it should be referred to the appropriate authorities for investigation. Otherwise you have nothing!!

[list bull-bluecheck]

I have the observational fact that there are many, many allegations against many senior people in the HSU

I have the observational fact that there are serious allegations of corruption being rife within that organisation

I have the observational fact that Jackson was a senior person within that organisation

I have the observational fact that some senior people were investigated

I have the observational fact that Jackson was not investigated


Would you care to explain why on that last one?

The first question that should be asked is why a senior union official, who was being paid over a quarter of a million dollars per annum, plus benefits, was doing such a mundane job as being a courier?




What does her remuneration have to do with her taking paperwork to FWA?

Here is something you missed.


    CHRIS UHLMANN: Doesn’t that seem a little excessive… [discussing Kathy Jackson’s pay rise to $270,000]

    KATHY JACKSON: Yes, it does.

    CHRIS UHLMANN: … for someone who represents some of the poorest workers in Australia?

    KATHY JACKSON: I agree with you but let’s look at the history of this. As I said previously this was rammed through the council, by Michael Williamson and his people. We objected to it. The Victorians ran a case against it to the council, it was in camera.

    I wasn’t at the meeting. We were asked to leave. The New South Wales councillors rammed this proposal through.

    At mediation last week in the courts, as part of that mediation, process, I put my hand up and said that I should get at least $100,000 salary cut, and that was rejected.

Make sure you tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth smithy.

According to several eye-witness reports we have received, he was spotted last week looking dapper and as fresh as a daisy in a café, having a cuppa with his partner Kathy Jackson, along with the manager of Opposition Business Christopher Pyne.


And................................................

angeleyes wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 2:39pm:

The first question that should be asked is why a senior union official, who was being paid over a quarter of a million dollars per annum, plus benefits, was doing such a mundane job as being a courier? What does her remuneration have to do with her taking paperwork to FWA? Here is something you missed.     CHRIS UHLMANN: Doesn’t that seem a little excessive… [discussing Kathy Jackson’s pay rise to $270,000]     KATHY JACKSON: Yes, it does.     CHRIS UHLMANN: … for someone who represents some of the poorest workers in Australia?     KATHY JACKSON: I agree with you but let’s look at the history of this. As I said previously this was rammed through the council, by Michael Williamson and his people. We objected to it. The Victorians ran a case against it to the council, it was in camera.     I wasn’t at the meeting. We were asked to leave. The New South Wales councillors rammed this proposal through.     At mediation last week in the courts, as part of that mediation, process, I put my hand up and said that I should get at least $100,000 salary cut, and that was rejected. Make sure you tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth smithy.

And here's something YOU missed my dear,which is actually posted above,

According to these documents, Kathy Jackson claimed, and was paid, $63,000 on 30 June 2010. The payment was called an “honorarium” and was, according to the HSU – Victorian Branch No. 3 minutes, simply performing her duties as the Branch Secretary and were in addition to her $270,000 annual salary. If somebody really wanted to reduce their wage by $100,000 then, to me, it would seem logical not to claim an extra $63,000 when it was not necessary she do so.

Even more seriously, the 2010 Auditors by Agostinelli and Perlen, Chartered Accountants, into the HSU – Vic No. 3 Branch has a payment that stands out alarmingly, to say the very least.

On page 18 of that report, it shows an amount described as “Key Management Personnel Compensation”. The only recipient listed is Katherine Jackson — and it is for $522,570. That’s over half a million dollars taken from some of the nation’s lowest paid workers.

If crikey are condemning Peter Wicks than WOW.



MarilynS
30 May, 2012 at 1:45 pm

Now even Crikey’s Andrew Crook who has been condemning Thomson over nothing is condemning Peter Wicks over this story while not looking back on the others that connect to this story which all prove the MSM have been spectacularly lazy and that they don’t even check their own archives.

The only thing he is right about is that the $500,000 was reported some weeks ago, but Kathy denied it so that was OK.

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 2:45pm:

angeleyes wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 2:39pm: The first question that should be asked is why a senior union official, who was being paid over a quarter of a million dollars per annum, plus benefits, was doing such a mundane job as being a courier? What does her remuneration have to do with her taking paperwork to FWA? Here is something you missed.     CHRIS UHLMANN: Doesn’t that seem a little excessive… [discussing Kathy Jackson’s pay rise to $270,000]     KATHY JACKSON: Yes, it does.     CHRIS UHLMANN: … for someone who represents some of the poorest workers in Australia?     KATHY JACKSON: I agree with you but let’s look at the history of this. As I said previously this was rammed through the council, by Michael Williamson and his people. We objected to it. The Victorians ran a case against it to the council, it was in camera.     I wasn’t at the meeting. We were asked to leave. The New South Wales councillors rammed this proposal through.     At mediation last week in the courts, as part of that mediation, process, I put my hand up and said that I should get at least $100,000 salary cut, and that was rejected. Make sure you tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth smithy. And here's something YOU missed my dear,which is actually posted above, According to these documents, Kathy Jackson claimed, and was paid, $63,000 on 30 June 2010. The payment was called an “honorarium” and was, according to the HSU – Victorian Branch No. 3 minutes, simply performing her duties as the Branch Secretary and were in addition to her $270,000 annual salary. If somebody really wanted to reduce their wage by $100,000 then, to me, it would seem logical not to claim an extra $63,000 when it was not necessary she do so. Even more seriously, the 2010 Auditors by Agostinelli and Perlen, Chartered Accountants, into the HSU – Vic No. 3 Branch has a payment that stands out alarmingly, to say the very least. On page 18 of that report, it shows an amount described as “Key Management Personnel Compensation”. The only recipient listed is Katherine Jackson — and it is for $522,570. That’s over half a million dollars taken from some of the nation’s lowest paid workers.

For gods sake smithy. Don't you think FWA are fully aware of that report.

angeleyes wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 2:57pm:

For gods sake smithy. Don't you think FWA are fully aware of that report.

I'm sure they are but you wished to paint Jackson as some sort of crusading clean skin bemoaning her remuneration package & begging for it to be reduced, when as we see from an audit independent of FWA on the HSU she is not.

Frankly in my personal opinion on the subject all involved should be thrown in prison & forced to pay the money back whether it bankrupts them or not.
This is a Union turf war/Power Struggle, we would know nothing of it if not for a hung parliament, more to the point we wouldn't care.

angeleyes wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 2:56pm:

If crikey are condemning Peter Wicks than WOW. MarilynS 30 May, 2012 at 1:45 pm Now even Crikey’s Andrew Crook who has been condemning Thomson over nothing is condemning Peter Wicks over this story while not looking back on the others that connect to this story which all prove the MSM have been spectacularly lazy and that they don’t even check their own archives. The only thing he is right about is that the $500,000 was reported some weeks ago, but Kathy denied it so that was OK.

Pretty sure by the last sentence this is actually sarcasm :D ;)

smith darling...yes I am outraged   outraged that THOMO is sitting parliament...


STILL


last i heard smithy jackson didnt and has never run for parliament


you and your laughingly called independent!!!.. may like to check that out I could be wrong.,


otherwise you see what happens with the unions.. as far as I am concerned this would be the TIP OF THE ICEBERG...

if he used hookers or bath houses...that would be up to the union members to sort out..

not ME



but the devil is in parliament..he is sitting in a seat of trust


does anyone from the left understand that word TRUST??????



why I dont  believe you do?



if Jackson could end up doing more jail time than THOMO...[hummmmm] then she is a lot dumber than she looks..


if there is a shred of evidence against her partner.. [so far none has come forward]..

then she most certainly is dumber than she looks..


Jackson took over from THOMO....of course she would be on a fine wicket..he took over from Williamson...all she hasnt done as far as yoiur accusation go is abuse her credit card.. of which I am sure she has one.

yes it is extraordinary that they pay such huge sums in wages... lets have a look at the ACTU shall we????

basically its none of our business.....thats for the people that pay them money.[members].. I dont..

how ever I do contribute to THOMO having a nice lifestyle..

this has all come about since he was elected to PARLIAMENT

he has claimed a lot of things under the protection of parliament..


all I say is.. when someone has all this information regarding someone who hasnt been charged with anything..[Jackson]


then they must have information regarding the innocence of THOMO


as a law abiding citizen I demand to see it..

The biggest thing to come out of all of this is will Fairwork recover from all the scandel?

It has been seriously compromised through this, and I think wont it will have any faith from those who will be involved with it.

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 3:25pm:

angeleyes wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 2:57pm: For gods sake smithy. Don't you think FWA are fully aware of that report. I'm sure they are but you wished to paint Jackson as some sort of crusading clean skin bemoaning her remuneration package & begging for it to be reduced, when as we see from an audit independent of FWA on the HSU she is not. Frankly in my personal opinion on the subject all involved should be thrown in prison & forced to pay the money back whether it bankrupts them or not. This is a Union turf war/Power Struggle, we would know nothing of it if not for a hung parliament, more to the point we wouldn't care.

there you go back peddling again... of course you would like to see them all in prison thats why you are on here trying to blacken Jackson..

thats a good little lefty..

this whole thing is about THOMO and his hanging on come hell or highwater..

for all the drama about him cracking up he is still there isnt he?????


how about we get rid of the THOMO saga and then deal with the Jackson saga if there is one?..

I havent seen much of the crusading Jackson society.. but she is the whistleblower

I just hate the left because it never fails they crucify the messenger every time

if this woman has done more than receive anything other than what she is allowed..

dont you think one of these 9 investigation will find that out????????

Verge wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:

The biggest thing to come out of all of this is will Fairwork recover from all the scandel? It has been seriously compromised through this, and I think wont it will have any faith from those who will be involved with it.

I wish I understood what it was meant to do what its powers are...I thought it was there for the workers..

how did it get to become an FWA problem?unless it was meant to disappear?????

cods wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 4:10pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 3:25pm: angeleyes wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 2:57pm: For gods sake smithy. Don't you think FWA are fully aware of that report. I'm sure they are but you wished to paint Jackson as some sort of crusading clean skin bemoaning her remuneration package & begging for it to be reduced, when as we see from an audit independent of FWA on the HSU she is not. Frankly in my personal opinion on the subject all involved should be thrown in prison & forced to pay the money back whether it bankrupts them or not. This is a Union turf war/Power Struggle, we would know nothing of it if not for a hung parliament, more to the point we wouldn't care. there you go back peddling again... of course you would like to see them all in prison thats why you are on here trying to blacken Jackson.. thats a good little lefty.. this whole thing is about THOMO and his hanging on come hell or highwater.. for all the drama about him cracking up he is still there isnt he????? how about we get rid of the THOMO saga and then deal with the Jackson saga if there is one?.. I havent seen much of the crusading Jackson society.. but she is the whistleblower I just hate the left because it never fails they crucify the messenger every time if this woman has done more than receive anything other than what she is allowed.. dont you think one of these 9 investigation will find that out????????

BWHAHAHAHA, I knew you'd love it Cods.

Why is it we cannot delve fully into the corruption of this Union?
Why cant we bring ALL those guilty of misappropriation of funds to justice?

Verge wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:

The biggest thing to come out of all of this is will Fairwork recover from all the scandel? It has been seriously compromised through this, and I think wont it will have any faith from those who will be involved with it.

Well it was a mob of union lackeys investigating anthe mob  of union lackeys. what was the chance of a decent timely investigation? NONE.

look for the Judicial enquiry into the HSU after the next election.

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 4:37pm:

cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 4:10pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 3:25pm: angeleyes wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 2:57pm: For gods sake smithy. Don't you think FWA are fully aware of that report. I'm sure they are but you wished to paint Jackson as some sort of crusading clean skin bemoaning her remuneration package & begging for it to be reduced, when as we see from an audit independent of FWA on the HSU she is not. Frankly in my personal opinion on the subject all involved should be thrown in prison & forced to pay the money back whether it bankrupts them or not. This is a Union turf war/Power Struggle, we would know nothing of it if not for a hung parliament, more to the point we wouldn't care. there you go back peddling again... of course you would like to see them all in prison thats why you are on here trying to blacken Jackson.. thats a good little lefty.. this whole thing is about THOMO and his hanging on come hell or highwater.. for all the drama about him cracking up he is still there isnt he????? how about we get rid of the THOMO saga and then deal with the Jackson saga if there is one?.. I havent seen much of the crusading Jackson society.. but she is the whistleblower I just hate the left because it never fails they crucify the messenger every time if this woman has done more than receive anything other than what she is allowed.. dont you think one of these 9 investigation will find that out???????? BWHAHAHAHA, I knew you'd love it Cods. Why is it we cannot delve fully into the corruption of this Union? Why cant we bring ALL those guilty of misappropriation of funds to justice?

I think they are doing just that.. didnt shorten try to deregister the HSU.. hasnt just about every union leader condemned it..yet I cant help thinking there is a lot of shredding going on right now..

it is funny though if a business is corrupt it takes no time at all to bring the villains to face the court yet something like this...


well cant help thinking they keep hoping something will come along that will take everyones mind off it.. and it will disappear forever

how about you talk to your mate at independent whatever.. he has so much on Jackson he must have heaps on everyone else.

cods wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 4:03pm:

smith darling...yes I am outraged   outraged that THOMO is sitting parliament... STILL last i heard smithy jackson didnt and has never run for parliament you and your laughingly called independent!!!.. may like to check that out I could be wrong., otherwise you see what happens with the unions.. as far as I am concerned this would be the TIP OF THE ICEBERG... if he used hookers or bath houses...that would be up to the union members to sort out.. not ME but the devil is in parliament..he is sitting in a seat of trust does anyone from the left understand that word TRUST?????? why I dont  believe you do? if Jackson could end up doing more jail time than THOMO...[hummmmm] then she is a lot dumber than she looks.. if there is a shred of evidence against her partner.. [so far none has come forward].. then she most certainly is dumber than she looks.. Jackson took over from THOMO....of course she would be on a fine wicket..he took over from Williamson...all she hasnt done as far as yoiur accusation go is abuse her credit card.. of which I am sure she has one. yes it is extraordinary that they pay such huge sums in wages... lets have a look at the ACTU shall we???? basically its none of our business.....thats for the people that pay them money.[members].. I dont.. how ever I do contribute to THOMO having a nice lifestyle.. this has all come about since he was elected to PARLIAMENT he has claimed a lot of things under the protection of parliament.. all I say is.. when someone has all this information regarding someone who hasnt been charged with anything..[Jackson] then they must have information regarding the innocence of THOMO as a law abiding citizen I demand to see it..

cods I am not trying to prove Thomson innocent or guilty, I am just putting facts from another web site so people can make up their own mind, don't be like some people and say Thomson is guilty even before the FWA report was release.

Read the previous stories in this series:
Part One, Part Two, Part Three, Part Four & Part Five.]


If he says what he is posting then it puts a new light on to the investigation and don't forget he has copies of cheque butts and receipts.

There are questions that should be answer by someone from the HSU and FWA

• Why did Michael Lawler and the head investigator of Fair Work Australia go on leave the Friday before Craig Thomson speech to parliament?
  
  
• why was there money paid to Minifie Park Child Care Association where Kathy Jackson daughter goes to?
  
  
• Why was money paid to Neranto No 10 consultancy fees between 2004 and 2008 which was register to Jeffrey Peter Jackson and Katherine Koukouvaos. Koukouvaos is Kathy Jackson’s maiden name and Jeffrey Jackson is her former husband?
  
  
• Abbott has said that he hasn't seen Michael Lawler for years. Did he have any contact with him by phone calls, emails or a third person?
  
  
• Kathy Jackson is due to speak at a HR Nicholls function Who invite her to speak and why is she speaking there?
  
  
• Michael Lawler wrote a letter of complaint to New South Wales police last year on behalf of himself and his partner, HSU national secretary Kathy Jackson. Did he bring to FWA investigations the same complaint, if not why not?
  
  
• Is Michael Lawler a member of the Liberal party or HR Nicholls society?
  
  
• Is Kathy Jackson a member of the Australia Labor Party? If not why not? She is the Vice President of the Australian Council of Trade Unions.
  
  
• Why has channel 9 can the interview with the Hooker all of a sudden?
  
  

wrote on May 31^st, 2012 at 7:57am:

cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 4:03pm: smith darling...yes I am outraged   outraged that THOMO is sitting parliament... STILL last i heard smithy jackson didnt and has never run for parliament you and your laughingly called independent!!!.. may like to check that out I could be wrong., otherwise you see what happens with the unions.. as far as I am concerned this would be the TIP OF THE ICEBERG... if he used hookers or bath houses...that would be up to the union members to sort out.. not ME but the devil is in parliament..he is sitting in a seat of trust does anyone from the left understand that word TRUST?????? why I dont  believe you do? if Jackson could end up doing more jail time than THOMO...[hummmmm] then she is a lot dumber than she looks.. if there is a shred of evidence against her partner.. [so far none has come forward].. then she most certainly is dumber than she looks.. Jackson took over from THOMO....of course she would be on a fine wicket..he took over from Williamson...all she hasnt done as far as yoiur accusation go is abuse her credit card.. of which I am sure she has one. yes it is extraordinary that they pay such huge sums in wages... lets have a look at the ACTU shall we???? basically its none of our business.....thats for the people that pay them money.[members].. I dont.. how ever I do contribute to THOMO having a nice lifestyle.. this has all come about since he was elected to PARLIAMENT he has claimed a lot of things under the protection of parliament.. all I say is.. when someone has all this information regarding someone who hasnt been charged with anything..[Jackson] then they must have information regarding the innocence of THOMO as a law abiding citizen I demand to see it.. cods I am not trying to prove Thomson innocent or guilty, I am just putting facts from another web site so people can make up their own mind, don't be like some people and say Thomson is guilty even before the FWA report was release. Read the previous stories in this series: Part One, Part Two, Part Three, Part Four & Part Five.] If he says what he is posting then it puts a new light on to the investigation and don't forget he has copies of cheque butts and receipts. There are questions that should be answer by someone from the HSU and FWA Why did Michael Lawler and the head investigator of Fair Work Australia go on leave the Friday before Craig Thomson speech to parliament? why was there money paid to Minifie Park Child Care Association where Kathy Jackson daughter goes to? Why was money paid to Neranto No 10 consultancy fees between 2004 and 2008 which was register to Jeffrey Peter Jackson and Katherine Koukouvaos. Koukouvaos is Kathy Jackson’s maiden name and Jeffrey Jackson is her former husband? Abbott has said that he hasn't seen Michael Lawler for years. Did he have any contact with him by phone calls, emails or a third person? Kathy Jackson is due to speak at a HR Nicholls function Who invite her to speak and why is she speaking there? Michael Lawler wrote a letter of complaint to New South Wales police last year on behalf of himself and his partner, HSU national secretary Kathy Jackson. Did he bring to FWA investigations the same complaint, if not why not? Is Michael Lawler a member of the Liberal party or HR Nicholls society? Is Kathy Jackson a member of the Australia Labor Party? If not why not? She is the Vice President of the Australian Council of Trade Unions. Why has channel 9 can the interview with the Hooker all of a sudden?

well fair enough but if you expect me to believe you then you will also put up the evidence THOMO has that says he is innocent..

for someone who has this much on Jackson then surely you/they have plenty on THOMO  as it is apart froma creditcard with THOMPSON on it.. I really havent seen anything on him..

I certainly havent seen any of the evidence he claimed he had in parliament..

to me I agree there are always two sides to every story...

I see where ACA have handed over their evidence to the police!!!!

and I for one am prepared to take a good hard look at THOMOs evidence..

but sorry I cant just take his word for it..


as for Jackson..

if you are not trying to make THOMO look innocent..'

then why are you trying to make the whistleblower look GUILTY???


sorry but for a whistleblower to put their head in their own noose seems hardly likely to me..

I am sure she is entitled to wine and dine with whom she pleases unless someone claims subversion.if you have proof the police would like to talk to you

the whole UNION HSU IS BEING INVESTIGATED..

its not just the THOMO credit cards..being looked at.

THE WHOLE UNION IS UNDER A CLOUD...so dont panic

I am sure whatever has gone on.. will come out..

just tell your mates at this independent..to wait and see before they poo their pants