Has Labor lost the plot or what !!

Isn't there anyone in Australia suitable for the job ?

What are all of these skilled migrants that we have been bringing in over the years qualified to do and now we need another 1700 that we supposedly don't already have !!

This must be noddy land :(


Quote:

Prime Minister Julia Gillard was not consulted on the decision to bring more than 1,700 foreign workers to work on a major mine project in Western Australia. The workers have been granted visas under the first Enterprise Migration Agreement to work at Gina Rinehart's $9 billion Roy Hill iron ore project. Immigration minister Chris Bowen signed off on the deal but Ms Gillard was not informed about it until Wednesday after her return from the United States. But Labor MP Nick Champion has told ABC News 24's Weekend Breakfast the Enterprise Migration Agreement (EMA) was discussed by cabinet and caucus last year. "This process went through cabinet, it went through cabinet and caucus last year in actual fact," he said. "It's fair to say most of the caucus want Australians to be trained up and skilled first but we have to accept that with these massive projects we just simply won't undertake them without both foreign capital and foreign labour." Mr Champion says it is in the national interest to develop the projects with foreign workers. "Sure, there's up to 1,700 foreign workers coming in under this agreement. But 6,000 Australian jobs will be created because of it. So, you know, we do have to be careful to see the whole picture here." Skills Minister Chris Evans says the deal is a necessary step to manage the workforce. "There'll be thousands and thousand of jobs available in Australia," he said. "First preference will go to Australians, who want to work in these projects, that are often in very remote areas, but the EMA is part of managing that massive investment pipeline and peak construction activity." He told ABC Radio's AM the move is a sensible economic solution. "Tens of thousands of Australians will get job opportunities in construction of these projects in the next few years," he said. "But we will need overseas labour to supplement that and it's better that it comes in temporarily than permanently because those jobs will be part of a peak activity, which won't last and the temporary top-up of foreign labour is the sensible economic solution." 'Gobsmacked' But the Government is facing an angry backlash from unions and within its own ranks over the move. Labor backbencher Doug Cameron says he is gobsmacked and bemused by the decision, and does not believe Labor's caucus will be comfortable with it either. "I'm gobsmacked. In the week where Australian workers are being marched off the job in Kurri Kurri and Tullamarine that we're marching Chinese workers onto Roy Hill. It just defies logic to me," he said. Outspoken MP Bob Katter also faulted the Government's move, branding it a ludicrous decision which erodes confidence in the national economy. "These people are so lacking in patriotism and so committed to looking after the interests of corporations that invariably are foreign owned or foreign financed, that they have agreed to fly in people from overseas," Mr Katter said. "They will undermine our awards and they will take your jobs, and I don't just mean in mining - it'll spread beyond that. "The Australian people will not stand for this." When the only backers of Bowen's foreign workers decision are Clive & Gina it's clear it's a bad call - even Twiggy is opposed. Australian Workers Union national secretary Paul Howes, via Twitter The AMWU says the move sets a dangerous precedent and is a slap in the face for the domestic workforce. "The respect we believe all employees should have for Australian workers I think is going out the window," union secretary Andrew Dettmer said. "What we will be seeing is employers like Gina Rinehart and others, Clive Palmer, BHP, trying to import more compliant and complacent work forces, ones who don't have a commitment to the local economy, who don't have a commitment to the local community, and of course are only coming here for the dollar. The CMFEU's national secretary Dave Noonan says the announcement has been mired in "spin and nonsense", and claims there are plenty of avenues for Ms Rinehart to hire overseas workers in specific roles without offering local workers the jobs first. He says his union has been flooded with calls, emails and texts from concerned members, and it represents a "sell-out" of Australian jobs. "The project would create many more jobs for Australian workers if Australians were given the opportunity to apply for them first. "Australia's migration policy has been handed over holus-bolus to Gina Rinehart."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-26/gillard-not-consulted-on-move-to-import-workers/4034860

Jobs for Aussies not foreign workers.

Shame on labor!

Labior must have formed the policy from Winefarts poem :D LOL


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Our Future The globe is sadly groaning with debt, poverty and strife And billions now are pleading to enjoy a better life Their hope lies with resources buried deep within the earth And the enterprise and capital which give each project worth Is our future threatened with massive debts run up by political hacks Who dig themselves out by unleashing rampant tax The end result is sending Australian investment, growth and jobs offshore This type of direction is harmful to our core Some envious unthinking people have been conned To think prosperity is created by waving a magic wand Through such unfortunate ignorance, too much abuse is hurled Against miners, workers and related industries who strive to build the world Develop North Australia, embrace multiculturalism and welcome short term foreign workers to our shores To benefit from the export of our minerals and ores The world's poor need our resources: do not leave them to their fate Our nation needs special economic zones and wiser government, before it is too late.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/02/15/3431797.htm

I've got one thing to say.

UNBLOODYBELIEVABLE

Gina owns Julia.

Next step Australia.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 11:44am:

I've got one thing to say. UNBLOODYBELIEVABLE Gina owns Julia. Next step Australia.

Sad, isn't it!  I was just telling my mum the story of a friend of mine who has just packed up and moved to WA for a job interview in the mines.  No guarantee of work - just the interview.  Now if she is willing to do that I am certain there are 1700 more like her around the country.

glee wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 11:47am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 11:44am: I've got one thing to say. UNBLOODYBELIEVABLE Gina owns Julia. Next step Australia. Sad, isn't it!  I was just telling my mum the story of a friend of mine who has just packed up and moved to WA for a job interview in the mines.  No guarantee of work - just the interview.  Now if she is willing to do that I am certain there are 1700 more like her around the country.

yep and I bet your friend will be sidelined in favour of the foreign workers :( Not only that if your friend did get a job she would have to pay ripoff rents just to live there :(

these are the future job prospects for the youth :(

Like I said this must be noddy land !!

Sir lastnail wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 12:49pm:

glee wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 11:47am: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 11:44am: I've got one thing to say. UNBLOODYBELIEVABLE Gina owns Julia. Next step Australia. Sad, isn't it!  I was just telling my mum the story of a friend of mine who has just packed up and moved to WA for a job interview in the mines.  No guarantee of work - just the interview.  Now if she is willing to do that I am certain there are 1700 more like her around the country. yep and I bet your friend will be sidelined in favour of the foreign workers :( Not only that if your friend did get a job she would have to pay ripoff rents just to live there :( these are the future job prospects for the youth :( Like I said this must be noddy land !!

I  know you are most probably right, but for her sake I hope you are wrong.  I'll let you know how she goes.

glee wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 12:57pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 12:49pm: glee wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 11:47am: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 11:44am: I've got one thing to say. UNBLOODYBELIEVABLE Gina owns Julia. Next step Australia. Sad, isn't it!  I was just telling my mum the story of a friend of mine who has just packed up and moved to WA for a job interview in the mines.  No guarantee of work - just the interview.  Now if she is willing to do that I am certain there are 1700 more like her around the country. yep and I bet your friend will be sidelined in favour of the foreign workers :( Not only that if your friend did get a job she would have to pay ripoff rents just to live there :( these are the future job prospects for the youth :( Like I said this must be noddy land !! I  know you are most probably right, but for her sake I hope you are wrong.  I'll let you know how she goes.

her only saving grace is this bit of spin from the pollies


Quote:

"Sure, there's up to 1,700 foreign workers coming in under this agreement. But 6,000 Australian jobs will be created because of it. So, you know, we do have to be careful to see the whole picture here."

The 6,000 Aussie jobs created is a con. They always feed us this crap, 10,000, 120,000, 250,000 jobs created. What a con.

its racist to oppose immigration and foreign workers.

JC Denton wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

its racist to oppose immigration and foreign workers.

No it's not.

JC Denton wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

its racist to oppose immigration and foreign workers.

and it's racist to ignore workers here :(

Sir lastnail wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 4:32pm: its racist to oppose immigration and foreign workers. and it's racist to ignore workers here :(

Hi Nail,
we're a soft touch for foreigners here.
They take our jobs & we give them $5,000 for every baby they pop out.

Bobby. wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 6:48pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 6:37pm: JC Denton wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 4:32pm: its racist to oppose immigration and foreign workers. and it's racist to ignore workers here :( Hi Nail, we're a soft touch for foreigners here. They take our jobs & we give them $5,000 for every baby they pop out.

and we allowed them to buy up and land bank properties here whilst jacking up the prices :( and whose hair brain idea was that ?

try and do that in china or japan !! lets see who are the racists then !!

Sir lastnail wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 7:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 6:48pm: Sir lastnail wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 6:37pm: JC Denton wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 4:32pm: its racist to oppose immigration and foreign workers. and it's racist to ignore workers here :( Hi Nail, we're a soft touch for foreigners here. They take our jobs & we give them $5,000 for every baby they pop out. and we allowed them to buy up and land bank properties here whilst jacking up the prices :( and whose hair brain idea was that ? try and do that in china or japan !! lets see who are the racists then !!

Hear hear Nail,
the government is allowing China to buy all our land!

Bobby. wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 7:17pm: Bobby. wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 6:48pm: Sir lastnail wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 6:37pm: JC Denton wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 4:32pm: its racist to oppose immigration and foreign workers. and it's racist to ignore workers here :( Hi Nail, we're a soft touch for foreigners here. They take our jobs & we give them $5,000 for every baby they pop out. and we allowed them to buy up and land bank properties here whilst jacking up the prices :( and whose hair brain idea was that ? try and do that in china or japan !! lets see who are the racists then !! Hear hear Nail, the government is allowing China to buy all our land!

we allow any foreigner to buy up to 230 millions worth of land without question and all Billy two face Shorten can say is that "we have to get the balance right" :(

Lets face it if we are no good at making or manufacturing anything at least we should be able to grow crops using our rich fertile land and then make the foreigners pay us for our goods. But not much chance of doing this if we keep selling off the land :(

[/quote]we allow any foreigner to buy up to 230 millions worth of land without question and all Billy two face Shorten can say is that "we have to get the balance right" :(

Lets face it if we are no good at making or manufacturing anything at least we should be able to grow crops using our rich fertile land and then make the foreigners pay us for our goods. But not much chance of doing this if we keep selling off the land :([/quote]

This is all because we still live under the rule of a monarchy with no formal Bill of Rights that give citizens as much EXPLICIT - DEFINED - DEFENDABLE - NON NEGOTIABLE - INALIENABLE - NON NEGOTIABLE rights before the courts of Australia.

EVERYONE who holds an office or a positon of the government has defined extraordinary rights accorded to that office. Those rights are granted by the monarchy and our vice regal apointee. Everyone else is here for the benefit of the MONARCHY.....

You are all SLAVES to the Queen of England, The house of Windsor, Soren will be happy to tell you what your place in the Empire is. Won't you Soren.

Soren prolly belongs to one of those stupid British ex-military upper middle class inbred families that fawn all over her at the mention of her name........ You the type I'm talking about don't you? Most of them seem to hang onto hyphenated names out of some sort of badge of honour harking back to the "good ol'days, hey wot ol'chap"    :D :D :D

just heard on the radio how people are applying for these mining jobs and are getting knocked back even when they have the right tickets !!

Some mining mobs won't employ you unless you live in the area and to do that you are looking at paying $1000 a week in rent !!

Of course our workers won't be suitable. It's most likely a deal between Gillard and Rhinehart, I'll tax you more, but I'll let you have cheap workers.

The same deal will apply to Palmer and Forrest if they ever start production.

From what I've read, Australians will be picked first for work. Foreigners will only be employed if the positions can't be filled.
This shouldn't be the case though. Australia has nowhere near full employment so they shouldn't go looking overseas.
Rhinehart can spare a bit of cash to train Australian workers, surely?

Dooley wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 2:02am:

Quote: we allow any foreigner to buy up to 230 millions worth of land without question and all Billy two face Shorten can say is that "we have to get the balance right" :( Lets face it if we are no good at making or manufacturing anything at least we should be able to grow crops using our rich fertile land and then make the foreigners pay us for our goods. But not much chance of doing this if we keep selling off the land :( This is all because we still live under the rule of a monarchy with no formal Bill of Rights that give citizens as much EXPLICIT - DEFINED - DEFENDABLE - NON NEGOTIABLE - INALIENABLE - NON NEGOTIABLE rights before the courts of Australia. EVERYONE who holds an office or a positon of the government has defined extraordinary rights accorded to that office. Those rights are granted by the monarchy and our vice regal apointee. Everyone else is here for the benefit of the MONARCHY..... You are all SLAVES to the Queen of England, The house of Windsor, Soren will be happy to tell you what your place in the Empire is. Won't you Soren. Soren prolly belongs to one of those stupid British ex-military upper middle class inbred families that fawn all over her at the mention of her name........ You the type I'm talking about don't you? Most of them seem to hang onto hyphenated names out of some sort of badge of honour harking back to the "good ol'days, hey wot ol'chap"    :D :D :D

The monarchy has nothing to do with the allowance of foreign ownership.

The government of the day allows it to be so.