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Title: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:28pm

Intelligent Design vs. Evolution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlMjwPQS_Do

Should Tony Abbott's Liberal Party, if elected at a future election, support Intelligent Design being taught alongside Evolution in the science class?

If not, why not.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:32pm

What does intelligent design have to do with evolution.
Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:37pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

What does intelligent design have to do with evolution.
Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life

Evolution would require a starting point. So what is this beginning point : God?

Do right wing Christians like Tony Abbott think evolution is ... a religious or atheist belief.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by BigOl64 on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:38pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

What does intelligent design have to do with evolution.
Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life

Intelligent design vs Big bang Theory, maybe? And no greens I don't mean the TV show. ;D

This isn't the first time greens has gone on an unintelligent rant that was wrong from the beginning, and I say we will look forward to many, many more of them.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Spot of Borg on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:45pm

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

What does intelligent design have to do with evolution.
Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life

Evolution would require a starting point. So what is this beginning point : God?

Do right wing Christians like Tony Abbott think evolution is ... a religious or atheist belief.

Atheists are all different with different beliefs or maybe no beliefs. There is no atheist doctrine.

Why is this in a political area?

SOB

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:52pm

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

What does intelligent design have to do with evolution.
Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life

Evolution would require a starting point. So what is this beginning point : God?

Do right wing Christians like Tony Abbott think evolution is ... a religious or atheist belief.

No it wouldn't

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:52pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:45pm:

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

What does intelligent design have to do with evolution.
Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life

Evolution would require a starting point. So what is this beginning point : God?

Do right wing Christians like Tony Abbott think evolution is ... a religious or atheist belief.

Atheists are all different with different beliefs or maybe no beliefs. There is no atheist doctrine.

Why is this in a political area?

SOB

evolution has nothing to do with atheism either

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Spot of Borg on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:56pm

Quote:

evolution has nothing to do with atheism either

Nope.

SOB

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:59pm

BigOl64 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

What does intelligent design have to do with evolution.
Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life

The Big Bang theory, wrongly named since if it happened, unlikely to have been an explosion. That said, the Big Bang theory is suppose to be the beginning point of the atheist belief called Evolution. Not separate.

So comparison should be Atheist's Evolution, including the Big Bang V Christian's Intelligent Design.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Uncle Meat on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:02pm

BigOl64 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

Intelligent design vs Big bang Theory, maybe? And no greens I don't mean the TV show. ;D

Well, that's a good enough excuse for me to post this picture:

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:02pm

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:59pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

What does intelligent design have to do with evolution.
Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life

Incorrect. The adaption of life is separate to its origins. Also the big bang is only the beginning of life and matter as we know it in this universe, therefore cannot be associated with the origins of life and matter in general.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:04pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

What does intelligent design have to do with evolution.
Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life

Evolution would require a starting point. So what is this beginning point : God?

Do right wing Christians like Tony Abbott think evolution is ... a religious or atheist belief.

No it wouldn't

So what is the beginning point of evolution, if it isn't god.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Spot of Borg on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:07pm

Quote:

That said, the Big Bang theory is suppose to be the beginning point of the atheist belief called Evolution.

Evolution is not an atheist belief. Some atheists may believe it. Some atheists may be scientists. Some atheists may not believe it. Doesnt have anything to do with atheism with - i better repeat this - means a lack of belief in a deity.

SOB

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by BigOl64 on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:11pm

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:59pm:

I dare say that the physicists and biologists of the world might disagree. But I doubt they would give much thought to the mindless rantings of a greens party stooge who believes spamming unintelligent horse sh1t passes for intellectual discourse

Science has nothing to do with theism of any kind, it's just science; you know, one of the many subjects you failed as school.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Uncle Meat on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:12pm

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

So what is the beginning point of evolution, if it isn't god.

Microscopic purple unicorns.

And no, I can't prove that they exist. How about your God?

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by BigOl64 on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:13pm

Uncle Meat wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

Intelligent design vs Big bang Theory, maybe? And no greens I don't mean the TV show. ;D

Well, that's a good enough excuse for me to post this picture:

One thing we can all agree on.

Well except greens-wank of course ;D

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:13pm

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

What does intelligent design have to do with evolution.
Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life

Evolution would require a starting point. So what is this beginning point : God?

Do right wing Christians like Tony Abbott think evolution is ... a religious or atheist belief.

No it wouldn't

So what is the beginning point of evolution, if it isn't god.

When a complex recipe of chemicals mixed in a special way creating organic life and it began to adapt to chemical interferences and reactions

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Uncle Meat on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:15pm

BigOl64 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

Intelligent design vs Big bang Theory, maybe? And no greens I don't mean the TV show. ;D

Well, that's a good enough excuse for me to post this picture:

One thing we can all agree on.

Well except greens-wank of course ;D

I do quite enjoy looking at that young lady's body.

There are a couple of better pics I could have used, but didn't want to offend ;)

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:15pm

Uncle Meat wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

So what is the beginning point of evolution, if it isn't god.

Microscopic purple unicorns.

And no, I can't prove that they exist. How about your God?

Then how about the other end of evolution.

Where do the believers of evolution think this evolutional theory will lead them to ... what is the completion point. Becoming God?

Is Evolution just another religion?

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:19pm

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

So what is the beginning point of evolution, if it isn't god.

Microscopic purple unicorns.

And no, I can't prove that they exist. How about your God?

Ok greens you really need to do some more research on the topic, you fail to grasp the concept or even the concept of the concept.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Uncle Meat on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:19pm

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

So what is the beginning point of evolution, if it isn't god.

Microscopic purple unicorns.

And no, I can't prove that they exist. How about your God?

I suspect it will go full circle: we'll end up microscopic purple unicorns again.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by The tolerator on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:20pm

It's just failure after failure for greeny.

I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:47pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:19pm:

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

So what is the beginning point of evolution, if it isn't god.

Microscopic purple unicorns.

And no, I can't prove that they exist. How about your God?

Ok greens you really need to do some more research on the topic, you fail to grasp the concept or even the concept of the concept.

Then explain. What is the end point for the theory of evolution. Is it suppose to be a path to full godliness?

If so, its a religious theory being taught in an atheist school system.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Spot of Borg on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:54pm

Quote:

Then explain. What is the end point for the theory of evolution. Is it suppose to be a path to full godliness?

If so, its a religious theory being taught in an atheist school system.

There is no "end point" and it isnt a religion. Its science. Didnt you learn it in school?

SOB

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:04pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:54pm:

Quote:

Then explain. What is the end point for the theory of evolution. Is it suppose to be a path to full godliness?

If so, its a religious theory being taught in an atheist school system.

There is no "end point" and it isnt a religion. Its science. Didnt you learn it in school?

SOB

That is illogical in that the evolution theory has a beginning point, the silent big bang theory, and to have a beginning point it has to have an end point. Life is evolving upward, because evolution only moves in one way, to a cause.

And this cause must be completion or godliness.

If there wasn't a god point to reach, then why do atheists evolve?

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by The tolerator on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:07pm

FFS greeny. Evolution is the process of adapting to the environment. As the environment is always changing, life is always adapting.

There - 2 sentences, and I've already infintely increased your understanding.

You're welcome.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:15pm

... wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:07pm:

Yes, and that is the reason why the environment is in flux is because it is part of the intelligent design.

It is god forcing life to evolve and evolve in on direction. Towards godliness.

Evolution and Intelligent Design is the same thing and Liberals who oppose both being taught side by side in Australian schools are agents for the religion of atheism working against christianity in Australia.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Spot of Borg on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:24pm

Quote:

Evolution and Intelligent Design is the same thing and Liberals who oppose both being taught side by side in Australian schools are agents for the religion of atheism working against christianity in Australia.

Why do you refuse to acknowledge that atheism is a lack of belief in a deity?

Science has nothing to do with lack of belief in a deity.

SOB

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:29pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

Quote:

Why do you refuse to acknowledge that atheism is a lack of belief in a deity?

Science has nothing to do with lack of belief in a deity.

SOB

By claiming atheism exists, you claim a god exists. For without a god figure, atheism would not have to be.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Uncle Meat on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:32pm

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

By claiming atheism exists, you claim a god exists. For without a god figure, atheism would not have to be.

LOL ;D

This one has to go into some one's signature. Please.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:41pm

Uncle Meat wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

By claiming atheism exists, you claim a god exists. For without a god figure, atheism would not have to be.

LOL ;D

This one has to go into some one's signature. Please.

The Atheist Religion empowers God Religion and God Religion empowers the Atheism Religion.

Its basic. If these so called Atheists where really out to collapse Religion, which they are not, then they would cut their resistance.

What you resist, persists ... what you look at, disperses.

Atheists don't want to end resistance because they want to grow their religion and so their power. Atheists are just Religionists, just at opposite ends of the spectrum.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Spot of Borg on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:45pm

Secularism is more non belief. Not atheism or religion. A lack of religion is all.

SOB

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Spot of Borg on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:46pm

Uncle Meat wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

By claiming atheism exists, you claim a god exists. For without a god figure, atheism would not have to be.

LOL ;D

This one has to go into some one's signature. Please.

yeah lol

I would but i still like this sig

SOB

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:51pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:45pm:

Secularism is more non belief. Not atheism or religion. A lack of religion is all.

SOB

What rubbish.

If we have a secular parliament, why have a religious prayer at the beginning of question time.

If we have a secular society, why do our taxes fund religious schools, fund religious wars, fund religious decisions and votes in the UN.

Secularism is a con. It's a pretend state.

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Spot of Borg on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:53pm

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:51pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:45pm:

Secularism is more non belief. Not atheism or religion. A lack of religion is all.

SOB

That is a good question. That stupid prayer should NOT be there imo.

SOB

Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Greens_Win on May 24^th, 2012 at 5:09pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:53pm:

____ wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:51pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:45pm:

Secularism is more non belief. Not atheism or religion. A lack of religion is all.

SOB

That is a good question. That stupid prayer should NOT be there imo.

SOB

Australia's constitution mentions God ... so how can we be secular?

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Title: Re: Intelligent Design V Evolution
Post by Spot of Borg on May 24^th, 2012 at 5:18pm

Quote:

Australia's constitution mentions God ... so how can we be secular?

Also a good question. It needs to be removed from the constitution.

SOB