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Message started by Armchair_Politician on May 23rd, 2012 at 8:46pm

Title: State of Origin
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 23rd, 2012 at 8:46pm
I think that rugby league bosses are making a massive blunder with State of Origin on three fronts this year:

1. No games should be played in Victoria as there is no Victorian side in the series (and never has been).

2. The matches should be played on a weekend, not right in the middle of the week when most people have to work the following day.

3. The week of the State of Origin should be a bye for all clubs, so that those teams that have multiple players representing their state are not unfairly disadvantaged when playing against teams with few or none on representative duties.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:08pm
The decision to award a try to Greg Inglis in the 73rd minute is nothing short of disgraceful. Radio and television commentators I was listening to at the time were all in agreement - Inglis dropped the ball and it should not have been a try. The standard of refereeing in this series opener had been - until that point - a major disappointment. Following that decision, I turned off the television. I just couldn't stomach the blatant bias against NSW from the referees. I realise that everyone makes mistakes, but the video referee presiding over the game tonight should be sacked, never to hold that position again. A blunder of that magnitude when the correct decision to be made was crystal clear is just not forgiveable.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Dnarever on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:13pm
The Try and the send off were probably two of the worst decisions in Origin history.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:26pm

Dnarever wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:13pm:
The Try and the send off were probably two of the worst decisions in Origin history.


The try - I agree. The send-off, I am not so sure. He did run over and come in with a swinging arm and closed fist. Can't have that but perhaps being put on report might have been enough.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Swagman on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:43pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 8:46pm:
I think that rugby league bosses are making a massive blunder with State of Origin on three fronts this year:

1. No games should be played in Victoria as there is no Victorian side in the series (and never has been).

2. The matches should be played on a weekend, not right in the middle of the week when most people have to work the following day.

3. The week of the State of Origin should be a bye for all clubs, so that those teams that have multiple players representing their state are not unfairly disadvantaged when playing against teams with few or none on representative duties.


The NRL need to quit having Origin games in Melbourne.  Victorians just aren't interested in the game. 

The Inglis try was a joke and so was the sin bin.  There was easy half a dozen that should have been binned.  Geesus such a close match was swung by crap decisions... :( :( :( :( :(

Big Mal in his press conference reckons Inglis's try was fair  ;D ;D.....I wonder what he would have said with the boot on the other foot...??? :(

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Dnarever on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:48pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:13pm:
The Try and the send off were probably two of the worst decisions in Origin history.


The try - I agree. The send-off, I am not so sure. He did run over and come in with a swinging arm and closed fist. Can't have that but perhaps being put on report might have been enough.



It was about 15 on one at the time and the guy who started it only got a mild slap on the wrist.

I have seen origin matches where if it was ruled to that standard all players on both teams would have been sent off.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 24th, 2012 at 6:26am

Swagman wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:43pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 8:46pm:
I think that rugby league bosses are making a massive blunder with State of Origin on three fronts this year:

1. No games should be played in Victoria as there is no Victorian side in the series (and never has been).

2. The matches should be played on a weekend, not right in the middle of the week when most people have to work the following day.

3. The week of the State of Origin should be a bye for all clubs, so that those teams that have multiple players representing their state are not unfairly disadvantaged when playing against teams with few or none on representative duties.


The NRL need to quit having Origin games in Melbourne.  Victorians just aren't interested in the game. 

The Inglis try was a joke and so was the sin bin.  There was easy half a dozen that should have been binned.  Geesus such a close match was swung by crap decisions... :( :( :( :( :(

Big Mal in his press conference reckons Inglis's try was fair  ;D ;D.....I wonder what he would have said with the boot on the other foot...??? :(


I agree that Origin games should not be played in Victoria, but disagree that they aren't interested in watching the game down there. It was a sellout crowd at the game last night and I suspect that is why (or one of the main reasons) the game was played there.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by nairbe on May 24th, 2012 at 6:54am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 6:26am:

Swagman wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:43pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 8:46pm:
I think that rugby league bosses are making a massive blunder with State of Origin on three fronts this year:

1. No games should be played in Victoria as there is no Victorian side in the series (and never has been).

2. The matches should be played on a weekend, not right in the middle of the week when most people have to work the following day.

3. The week of the State of Origin should be a bye for all clubs, so that those teams that have multiple players representing their state are not unfairly disadvantaged when playing against teams with few or none on representative duties.


The NRL need to quit having Origin games in Melbourne.  Victorians just aren't interested in the game. 

The Inglis try was a joke and so was the sin bin.  There was easy half a dozen that should have been binned.  Geesus such a close match was swung by crap decisions... :( :( :( :( :(

Big Mal in his press conference reckons Inglis's try was fair  ;D ;D.....I wonder what he would have said with the boot on the other foot...??? :(


I agree that Origin games should not be played in Victoria, but disagree that they aren't interested in watching the game down there. It was a sellout crowd at the game last night and I suspect that is why (or one of the main reasons) the game was played there.


Considering NSW have had one sell out in about 6 years i am amazed that Melbourne doesn't get a lot more games.

Wednesday is the traditional day for Origin, i was at the first game Wednesday night great feeling, oh and most importantly it is a ratings bonanza so they won't get the money for it on a weekend.

Ask yourself, if the incident had happened in general play what would it have been? I say it would have been play on six to go, it was a try or it was a penalty try for kicking in danger. Either he played at it in defence of the try and it was legal or he was lashing out and it was ilegal.

The bin was justified so long as that now stands as the benchmark for the series. Jennings ran 40 mtrs and then threw a clear punch with intent. At any other level he would be rubbed for six weeks, it was a lame attempt by an out of form player.

I see the players said it was a very fast game, it looked slow and QLD looked to struggle for most of the game, NSW were the better team but between some poor decision making in their halves and the joke they call a coach they will struggle to win. Stuart was disgraced as the Australian Coach with an outburst of bad sportsmanship and should never have coached at first grade level again

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by muso on May 24th, 2012 at 9:19am
They had me worried a bit, but in the end we pulled through. I watched the whole thing in a bush pub. (Probably the last time for me in Moura.) They are always the best for atmosphere.


QUEENSLANDER!!!



Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Swagman on May 24th, 2012 at 10:03am

nairbe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 6:54am:
   

Considering NSW have had one sell out in about 6 years i am amazed that Melbourne doesn't get a lot more games.


That's not the point.  When NSW play QLD it should be in either NSW or QLD not VIC. 


nairbe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 6:54am:

Wednesday is the traditional day for Origin, i was at the first game Wednesday night great feeling, oh and most importantly it is a ratings bonanza so they won't get the money for it on a weekend.


Fair enough but clubs should get a percentage of gate & broadcast rights payments per representative player that are unavailable for club games due to origin.


nairbe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 6:54am:
Ask yourself, if the incident had happened in general play what would it have been? I say it would have been play on six to go, it was a try or it was a penalty try for kicking in danger. Either he played at it in defence of the try and it was legal or he was lashing out and it was ilegal.


It would have been a simple knock on and a scrum with a NSW feed.


nairbe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 6:54am:
The bin was justified so long as that now stands as the benchmark for the series. Jennings ran 40 mtrs and then threw a clear punch with intent. At any other level he would be rubbed for six weeks, it was a lame attempt by an out of form player.


No way , totally disagree.   He should have been placed on report and dealt with by the League judiciary.

This Ref decision arguable effected the result.  Take a man out of the defensive line in the Origin just before half time and it was a gift 6 points.  Stupid and biased decision. >:( .  The guy that threw the ball should have been binned as well as all the other guys that threw punches.


nairbe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 6:54am:

I see the players said it was a very fast game, it looked slow and QLD looked to struggle for most of the game, NSW were the better team but between some poor decision making in their halves and the joke they call a coach they will struggle to win. Stuart was disgraced as the Australian Coach with an outburst of bad sportsmanship and should never have coached at first grade level again


I watched last night's game at the pub, it was packed.  Last year it was empty.  There's alot more anticipation that NSW are back and competitive.

I'm looking forward to the next games as long as the Refs have a trip to Specsavers in the mean time... :D

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 24th, 2012 at 10:35am

I thought the ref had a good game.

the NSW ran in from 30 M away and threw a haymaker - have a rest mate.

the ball was kicked from Inglis's hand - which is illegal.

We won, NSW lost. It was a good game.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Swagman on May 24th, 2012 at 4:25pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 10:35am:
I thought the ref had a good game.

the NSW ran in from 30 M away and threw a haymaker - have a rest mate.

the ball was kicked from Inglis's hand - which is illegal.

We won, NSW lost. It was a good game.


Really.....you'd better go to specsavers... :D

Yeah, have a gloat but It wouldn't be the Origin without a 'blue' (no pun intended) :) and last night's was pretty tame anyway.  Yes, as I said the League should penalise the bloke but not the team.  Put him on report and suspend him.

Sorry the boy from Bowraville NSW that plays for QLD spilled the ball but as usual QLD got the benefit of all the dodgy calls....



If this happened to you Toads or the mighty Bonkos you'd be in uproar.. :( :(

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by nairbe on May 24th, 2012 at 5:30pm

Quote:
[quote]Considering NSW have had one sell out in about 6 years i am amazed that Melbourne doesn't get a lot more games.


That's not the point.  When NSW play QLD it should be in either NSW or QLD not VIC.  [/quote]

No the point is that both teams make the sacrifice every third year alternately and it is in the interests of the game as a whole. That NSW always has a pathetic whinge about it show everyone exactly why they are struggling.


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nairbe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 6:54am:

Wednesday is the traditional day for Origin, i was at the first game Wednesday night great feeling, oh and most importantly it is a ratings bonanza so they won't get the money for it on a weekend.


Fair enough but clubs should get a percentage of gate & broadcast rights payments per representative player that are unavailable for club games due to origin.


This is already in discussion. It has been put forward for debate in the lead up to the next media negotiation, both paying bonuses to players and compensation to teams who loose players to origin. Interesting that this attitude that the club matters more than state or country is what killed it in the AFL. NSW selfishness will kill Origin.


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nairbe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 6:54am:
Ask yourself, if the incident had happened in general play what would it have been? I say it would have been play on six to go, it was a try or it was a penalty try for kicking in danger. Either he played at it in defence of the try and it was legal or he was lashing out and it was ilegal.


It would have been a simple knock on and a scrum with a NSW feed.


Rubbish, it would have been a penalty to QLD for kicking in danger. ::)


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nairbe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 6:54am:
The bin was justified so long as that now stands as the benchmark for the series. Jennings ran 40 mtrs and then threw a clear punch with intent. At any other level he would be rubbed for six weeks, it was a lame attempt by an out of form player.


No way , totally disagree.   He should have been placed on report and dealt with by the League judiciary.
This Ref decision arguable effected the result.  Take a man out of the defensive line in the Origin just before half time and it was a gift 6 points.  Stupid and biased decision. >:( .  The guy that threw the ball should have been binned as well as all the other guys that threw punches.


For fighting yes or any normal incident but that was a total brain explosion. He ran in from distance and threw a punch with intent to injure. It was a Les Boyd moment.


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nairbe wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 6:54am:

I see the players said it was a very fast game, it looked slow and QLD looked to struggle for most of the game, NSW were the better team but between some poor decision making in their halves and the joke they call a coach they will struggle to win. Stuart was disgraced as the Australian Coach with an outburst of bad sportsmanship and should never have coached at first grade level again


I watched last night's game at the pub, it was packed.  Last year it was empty.  There's alot more anticipation that NSW are back and competitive.

I'm looking forward to the next games as long as the Refs have a trip to Specsavers in the mean time... :D
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NSW need to be loyal to what is an excellent team that can win this thing. There biggest impediments are their attitude to difficulty, team spirit and the idiot Coach. I see he was verbaling Harrigan today. He has no honor.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Swagman on May 24th, 2012 at 11:06pm
There is NO WAY this was kicking in danger.  Inglis just spilled the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8upGTJDcA

Nothing like Billy the Skid Slater from the 2008 GF.



QLD are due for a few dud decisions, maybe one will cost them the series huh.... ;)

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 25th, 2012 at 12:31am

Swagman wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 10:35am:
I thought the ref had a good game.

the NSW ran in from 30 M away and threw a haymaker - have a rest mate.

the ball was kicked from Inglis's hand - which is illegal.

We won, NSW lost. It was a good game.


Really.....you'd better go to specsavers... :D

Yeah, have a gloat but It wouldn't be the Origin without a 'blue' (no pun intended) :) and last night's was pretty tame anyway.  Yes, as I said the League should penalise the bloke but not the team.  Put him on report and suspend him.

Sorry the boy from Bowraville NSW that plays for QLD spilled the ball but as usual QLD got the benefit of all the dodgy calls....



If this happened to you Toads or the mighty Bonkos you'd be in uproar.. :( :(




Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Swagman on May 25th, 2012 at 8:33am
Ok fair enough.........no use complaining.....the results in the score book..... :'(

Enjoy rubbing it in....... :(

One of these years, decades, or centuries the Blues might just win a series......

......and it gets worse the T-Rex is out for 6 weeks

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/manly-sea-eagles-second-rower-tony-williams-to-miss-clash-against-penrith-with-back-injury/story-fn2mcuj6-1226366158968

I'm a Manly supporter as well...... :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by nairbe on May 26th, 2012 at 7:51pm

Swagman wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 8:33am:
Ok fair enough.........no use complaining.....the results in the score book..... :'(

Enjoy rubbing it in....... :(

One of these years, decades, or centuries the Blues might just win a series......

......and it gets worse the T-Rex is out for 6 weeks

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/manly-sea-eagles-second-rower-tony-williams-to-miss-clash-against-penrith-with-back-injury/story-fn2mcuj6-1226366158968

I'm a Manly supporter as well...... :'( :'( :'( :'(


The boy from Bowraville, my home town till 12 month ago, has never complained about playing for QLD. He was taken as a teenager from Macksville to brisbane before he played senior footy. By your theory Sterlo the boy from Toowomba should have been a QLD'er.

NSW still need to stop whinging and blaming others for their own stupidity like Jenkins sin bin, if they can they will win a series no problem. Oh that idiot of a coach will need to go too.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 26th, 2012 at 9:46pm

Swagman wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 8:33am:
Ok fair enough.........no use complaining.....the results in the score book..... :'(

Enjoy rubbing it in....... :(

One of these years, decades, or centuries the Blues might just win a series......

......and it gets worse the T-Rex is out for 6 weeks

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/manly-sea-eagles-second-rower-tony-williams-to-miss-clash-against-penrith-with-back-injury/story-fn2mcuj6-1226366158968

I'm a Manly supporter as well...... :'( :'( :'( :'(



good on you swaggie.
Nsw looked the better team to me on the night.
the send off cost them the game.
changing players too much is detrimental to them

you'ld get very good odds on NSW to take the series now

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Jasignature on May 30th, 2012 at 3:11pm
Ok.
You all know that I believe that the other half of a very successful Sharks 'centre' pairing that are also very successful away from the game ...should be the NSW Blues Coach.
Mark 'Sparkles/The Hammer' McGaw

I still have yet to see the recent game.
My prediction was a NSW win in a QLD won series again.
Ricky Stuart to blame the Refs as usual. He played Union where the 'rules' are rules ...unlike League, and he still can't adapt to Rugby League's 'stupidity' of rulings.
Under McGaw (runs the 'Scientific' Sports Academy with HEAPS of success), he would push the players to score tries 5 to 1 to nullify anything the Refs could 'blunder'. Its like going overseas (or to QLD to fight Mundine / team Fenech) to fight in Boxing and knowing you will need to knockout the opponent to win, not via the judges. Read Kostya's books and he'll tell ya straight about this mentality.

...so I wasn't far off in regards to the game.
Inglis scored - the ball was dislodged by a kick, he fell upon the ball again for a try.

Ricky Stuart teaches players to attack/blame the Referee and so Gallen did just that.
STILL NOT GOOD ENOUGH fellas  ::)

I also predicted this T-Rex dude to get sent off. Did this actually happen also? Was he the one sent off?

Although BIG (headswell) Mal is listed as the Greatest Aust Player, etc and belted an aged non-boxing Mark 'Jacko' Jackson (AFL) around the ring in a very anal match.
Mark McGaw is someone who always bettered Mal Meninga, as a Centre (thats when the blues began winning ;)) as a pair of fists and hopefully as a Coach.

I predict Mal to retire asap when news of Mark McGaw coming onto the scene let alone his lip to curl in anger at the sight of that 'sparkle' in Mark's eyes as he smiles at the QLD demise.

Ef-Off Stuart you little angry Ref biatching. Go hang out with Ian Roberts again. Maybe take a plane to Christchurch where I saw you because you couldn't cope with coaching the Sharks.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Swagman on May 31st, 2012 at 12:52pm
Des Hasler would be my vote for NSW coach.

He has the best recent club record and the experience.

 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 3:11pm:
I also predicted this T-Rex dude to get sent off. Did this actually happen also? Was he the one sent off?


Hmmm I really don't think you watched the game too closely did you?....which is why you think the Inglis try was legit I suppose... :D

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Dnarever on May 31st, 2012 at 2:15pm
Farrah Played at the ball.

About 85% of the time this type of thing happens it is ruled as no try.

Looking at the point in the air where Slatter first touched the ball the reality is that it probably went forward, when you consider that his momentum was fwd and he landed on the line he had to have been a few feet before the line when he made contact and the ball landed closer to the try line. While you could not see this from the film it had to have been the case as it is the only way the ball could have landed where it did. Slatter clearly did not touch the ball and then drop at 90 degrees.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Jasignature on May 31st, 2012 at 3:05pm
I've watched the YouTubes, but not the whole game.
I've been informed it wasn't T-Rex who got sinbinned.

Did the ball leave Inglis's hands 'onto' the leg or did the leg 'dislodge' the ball ??
If it is the former, then NO TRY, the latter - the TRY.
The fact that there was mention of 'BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT' is absurd and thus makes us wonder why we have Video decisions in the first place :-? ::)
Just have the Ref, his call and at the end of the match he is paid/deducted $$$ according to his success rate. I'm pretty sure the decisions will suddenly become a lot more 'accurate' ...also in cricket. ;)

I was astonished to see Gallen say what he said. Guess that's Ricky Stuart's REF WHINGING philosophy at work there. Disgraceful, even as a Sharks fan. :-[
Stop being the Ref Gallen and just play the ball!
Christ. ::)

We need a SPARK to HAMMER the Toads. ;)
A coach with a BRAIN.
Hasler is like Folkes and Pearce - super trainers that make superfit teams that come home in the latter stages of a game.
Bennett & Gould are super motivators.

Would Sterlo crack under pressure and take on the role? :-?

No - the only option is to get 'Sparkles' McGaw away from his Science Academy of Sport and training other 'Champions' to take the Blues forward in a THINKING GAME.

Mark McGaw

...and of course we know how successful E.T. has been too.
Two guys who haven't had to spend their days doing adverts. :P

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Dnarever on May 31st, 2012 at 3:53pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on May 31st, 2012 at 3:05pm:
I've watched the YouTubes, but not the whole game.
I've been informed it wasn't T-Rex who got sinbinned.

Did the ball leave Inglis's hands 'onto' the leg or did the leg 'dislodge' the ball ??
If it is the former, then NO TRY, the latter - the TRY.
The fact that there was mention of 'BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT' is absurd and thus makes us wonder why we have Video decisions in the first place :-? ::)
Just have the Ref, his call and at the end of the match he is paid/deducted $$$ according to his success rate. I'm pretty sure the decisions will suddenly become a lot more 'accurate' ...also in cricket. ;)

I was astonished to see Gallen say what he said. Guess that's Ricky Stuart's REF WHINGING philosophy at work there. Disgraceful, even as a Sharks fan. :-[
Stop being the Ref Gallen and just play the ball!
Christ. ::)

We need a SPARK to HAMMER the Toads. ;)
A coach with a BRAIN.
Hasler is like Folkes and Pearce - super trainers that make superfit teams that come home in the latter stages of a game.
Bennett & Gould are super motivators.

Would Sterlo crack under pressure and take on the role? :-?

No - the only option is to get 'Sparkles' McGaw away from his Science Academy of Sport and training other 'Champions' to take the Blues forward in a THINKING GAME.

Mark McGaw

...and of course we know how successful E.T. has been too.
Two guys who haven't had to spend their days doing adverts. :P


the latter - the TRY.


In my view it was definatly the case and the correct interpritation is that it is a try however this is mitigated by the fact that it is only ruled this way about 15% of the time.

You often hear the commentators say things like no ball security or he didn't have control of the ball.

This is one of the more flexable areas where the refereeing decision is more related to the phase of the moon than anything which happened on the field.

THe probability is about 85% that this same incident would be ruled to be no try next time around so in that respect the referees were wrong.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Jasignature on Jun 1st, 2012 at 9:31pm
I agree with your point.

If I was Ref: If I was not 'sure' of it being a try (for that is why the players and ball are in that zone of the field - to be a try) by more than 50% confidence. Then I would declare it NO TRY (and scrum). I guess its like 'rounding-up' or 'down' in  numbers. If its 2.6 ...it becomes 3 rather than 2.
Rugby League sure is up the clacker in rules, etc these past few decades - no doubt about it. I lost confidence in the game when they stopped placing the ball in the 'middle' of the scrum. Imagine trying to explain the rules of this game to a foreigner - the hypocrisy is incredible.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by nairbe on Jun 4th, 2012 at 6:32pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 9:31pm:
I agree with your point.

If I was Ref: If I was not 'sure' of it being a try (for that is why the players and ball are in that zone of the field - to be a try) by more than 50% confidence. Then I would declare it NO TRY (and scrum). I guess its like 'rounding-up' or 'down' in  numbers. If its 2.6 ...it becomes 3 rather than 2.
Rugby League sure is up the clacker in rules, etc these past few decades - no doubt about it. I lost confidence in the game when they stopped placing the ball in the 'middle' of the scrum. Imagine trying to explain the rules of this game to a foreigner - the hypocrisy is incredible.


I think you are missing the most important issue here. The ref made it clear by the decision that the NSw player played at the ball. This means quite clearly that the ball was live. He then made it clear that the Qld player did not play at the ball, so this is a rebound. The alternates in old rules before it was allowed to use a boot to defend the line would probably have been kicking in danger penalty try.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Swagman on Jun 12th, 2012 at 4:04pm
The Video Ref's interpretation was that Farrar played at the ball, the consensus of most everyone else was that he didn't.

If Farrar had time to use his foot then Inglis had time to avoid it.  The fact is that Farrar's action was unintentional and so was Inglis's.  Neither had the time to react.  The bottom line being that it was a simple knock on and the Ref made the wrong call. :(

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by muso on Jun 13th, 2012 at 10:15pm
Well, the Blues managed to scrape a win. I guess they had to. Let's see how they go in Brisbane.

There was a lot of fumbling and dropping the ball, mainly from Queensland.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by John Smith on Jun 13th, 2012 at 10:36pm
just watched it ... good game, blues outplayed qld, although they had me worried for the last 25 mins .... game 3 should be good ... lets hope the refs don't determine who wins

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by nairbe on Jun 14th, 2012 at 7:31pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 10:36pm:
just watched it ... good game, blues outplayed qld, although they had me worried for the last 25 mins .... game 3 should be good ... lets hope the refs don't determine who wins


You should have been worried. The Blues had the lions share of the ball, field position and decisions but only just managed to scrape through on a piece of total arse when Haine dropped the ball and it hit his foot, other wise it was a QLD win on what could only have been seen as a very off night. The funny thing is QLD had the sin bin this time and dam near still won but NSW can always find something to whinge about.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by muso on Jun 14th, 2012 at 8:14pm
It all happened for NSW when Cronk went into the sin bin for 10 minutes.  Of course, being a Queenslander (take heed),  I won't whinge about that.  Try not to whinge too much when the Maroons win the decider in Brisbane.

The outcome of game 2 will only make the final game more interesting.

It was funny at the local pub when a sole Blues supporter was making most noise. He had a bunch of blue balloons. Eventually, somebody popped his balloons.


Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by John Smith on Jun 14th, 2012 at 8:49pm

nairbe wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 10:36pm:
just watched it ... good game, blues outplayed qld, although they had me worried for the last 25 mins .... game 3 should be good ... lets hope the refs don't determine who wins


You should have been worried. The Blues had the lions share of the ball, field position and decisions but only just managed to scrape through on a piece of total arse when Haine dropped the ball and it hit his foot, other wise it was a QLD win on what could only have been seen as a very off night. The funny thing is QLD had the sin bin this time and dam near still won but NSW can always find something to whinge about.


Who's whinging? it's arse when the luck goes to NSw , and skill when QLD get lucky? get real ...

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Dnarever on Jun 14th, 2012 at 9:16pm
The Blues celibrated like game two was their grand final.

They should have won that by 20 but stopped playing when they got in front.

Except for the hurt Qld players I would say that NSW can not win game 3.

The NSW halves were both almost useless.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by John Smith on Jun 14th, 2012 at 9:28pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 9:16pm:
The Blues celibrated like game two was their grand final.

They should have won that by 20 but stopped playing when they got in front.

Except for the hurt Qld players I would say that NSW can not win game 3.

The NSW halves were both almost useless.


the only one NSW needs to change is that moron that let the ball bounce (forgot his name) ..... twice he let QLD score ... useless twat ... didn't once contest the ball in the air

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Dnarever on Jun 14th, 2012 at 9:37pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 9:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 9:16pm:
The Blues celibrated like game two was their grand final.

They should have won that by 20 but stopped playing when they got in front.

Except for the hurt Qld players I would say that NSW can not win game 3.

The NSW halves were both almost useless.


the only one NSW needs to change is that moron that let the ball bounce (forgot his name) ..... twice he let QLD score ... useless twat ... didn't once contest the ball in the air



It came down 3 yards from the goal posts - while I agree about the winger being a problem that one was the full backs ball.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Dnarever on Jun 14th, 2012 at 10:00pm
two incidents in the game.

The ball was ruled as forced when it was bobbling around in the ingoal area, I suspect that had Qld forced the ball it would have been awarded as a try or BOD YRT TRY YRT.

When the Qld player was tackled near the sideline and the NSW player chose to not go on with it and push him into touch then he got up and played on. Had the NSW player pushed him out it would have been penalised.

Very strange decisions made no difference.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by ... on Jun 15th, 2012 at 2:50pm
I wonder how the 34 players pull up after the game and how many are going to play this weekend

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by muso on Jun 15th, 2012 at 8:39pm

John S wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 2:50pm:
I wonder how the 34 players pull up after the game and how many are going to play this weekend

Yeah - it was a rough game.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by nairbe on Jun 16th, 2012 at 7:46pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 8:49pm:

nairbe wrote on Jun 14th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2012 at 10:36pm:
just watched it ... good game, blues outplayed qld, although they had me worried for the last 25 mins .... game 3 should be good ... lets hope the refs don't determine who wins


You should have been worried. The Blues had the lions share of the ball, field position and decisions but only just managed to scrape through on a piece of total arse when Haine dropped the ball and it hit his foot, other wise it was a QLD win on what could only have been seen as a very off night. The funny thing is QLD had the sin bin this time and dam near still won but NSW can always find something to whinge about.


Who's whinging? it's arse when the luck goes to NSw , and skill when QLD get lucky? get real ...


Is that a sensitive nerve that i touched? :) :) Come now 6 straight series and a seventh very likely is luck is it? my goodness NSW really do need to do some serious soul searching.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:25pm

i thought NSW were better in both games.
now we have many walking wounded and they have their backs up

it's not looking good to me.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Swagman on Jun 17th, 2012 at 1:08pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:25pm:
i thought NSW were better in both games.
now we have many walking wounded and they have their backs up

it's not looking good to me.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/billy-slater-will-miss-up-to-6-weeks-thanks-to-knee-injury/story-e6frfghx-1226396008276

No Billy the Skid will make a massive difference..... :)

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Dnarever on Jun 17th, 2012 at 1:12pm

Swagman wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 1:08pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:25pm:
i thought NSW were better in both games.
now we have many walking wounded and they have their backs up

it's not looking good to me.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/billy-slater-will-miss-up-to-6-weeks-thanks-to-knee-injury/story-e6frfghx-1226396008276

No Billy the Skid will make a massive difference..... :)



Billy was lame in both games - a teriffic player but has done nothing in this series, Frightening that they could replace him with Inglis who may well tear us apart.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Swagman on Jun 19th, 2012 at 9:33am

Dnarever wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 1:12pm:

Swagman wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 1:08pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 9:25pm:
i thought NSW were better in both games.
now we have many walking wounded and they have their backs up

it's not looking good to me.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/billy-slater-will-miss-up-to-6-weeks-thanks-to-knee-injury/story-e6frfghx-1226396008276

No Billy the Skid will make a massive difference..... :)



Billy was lame in both games - a teriffic player but has done nothing in this series, Frightening that they could replace him with Inglis who may well tear us apart.


Inglis - great player his is, can't cover the ground Slater does.

Although I hear Glenn Stewart was injured last night and is out of O3 which is a big loss for NSW & Manly.  Excellent defender.


Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Jasignature on Jun 24th, 2012 at 2:40pm
I walked away from the game at half-time.
1. I'm in NSW and they served only VB & XXXX, not Resches or Tootheys New.
2. The game was a bore of dropped bores and points scored from mishaps and as usual ...kicking. ::)

I say this as a Blues supporter.
Ricky Stuart is so unimaginative and his style is mostly based upon - yep, ...kicking. ::) So they plugged away with kicks to Slater. Wow - what a tactic ::)

Thank god he ain't coaching the Blues next year and even I can agree that QLD will win Game 3  :-[

Meninga's EGO wants a DECADE OF WINS and he can achieve that. But I'll still plug away at Mark (Sparkles / The Hammer) McGaw being the saviour of NSW and what a nice touch it would be to see Meninga snuffed out at the 9th ;D :P.
Mark McGaw is Meninga's NEMESIS and he is a very successful one at that - both on field against Meninga and in his 'after league' life as well with his Science Academy of Sport ...a success just like his centre partner Ettingshausen.
Most other NRL players have to get by doing adverts or promos after football.  ::)

I think Des Hasler will be next Coach ...but even he will fail.

Its not QLD that has to be beaten ...its MENINGA. :o

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Swagman on Jun 26th, 2012 at 1:43pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 2:40pm:
Its not QLD that has to be beaten ...its MENINGA. 


Big Mal was a great player but is an overrated coach.

Mal is the preverbial "drover's dog" which could have coached QLD over the last 6 years and won...

The Toads just had the best players, Lockyer, Slater, Smith, Thursten, Inglis, Hodges, Thaiday etc etc all in their prime.....but the gloss is fading.... :D

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Jasignature on Jun 26th, 2012 at 6:57pm
I definately agree Swaggie. Meninga is over-rated as a Coach, but he has the stats to back his Ego up considerably. He is the quintessential Maroon 'Big Bully' who is getting his spoiled way and 'Big Bubba' wants his Decade of Wins ...and what Big Bubba wants, ::)

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by nairbe on Jul 5th, 2012 at 8:34pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jun 26th, 2012 at 6:57pm:
I definately agree Swaggie. Meninga is over-rated as a Coach, but he has the stats to back his Ego up considerably. He is the quintessential Maroon 'Big Bully' who is getting his spoiled way and 'Big Bubba' wants his Decade of Wins ...and what Big Bubba wants, ::)


WOW isn't that a bitter looser outburst.
It would be fair to say that Maninga proved a pretty ordinary NRL coach and even funnier political candidate but when it comes to Origin he has shown that at the representative level he is in a good head space. No doubt to manage a team of champions, it takes certain abilities. We saw Bennett fail as national coach because his own persona didn't blend at that level. Meninga has the goods for origin and no question he has had the cattle.

The next 3 years are the challenge for Meninga with the need for some new forwards and some consideration of the backs with Inglis looking in need of a fitness coach and a few others like Billy starting to loose that magic edge. Most important for QLD though will be the resigning of Stewart as NSW coach. That will almost get them there. As this is the man that embarrassed a whole nation by his bad sportsmanship toward a referee as the national coach and a coaching record of destroying teams i find your comments reek of sour grapes.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by matty on Jul 5th, 2012 at 8:49pm
Why are rugby supporters such bogans? No wonder Swan's so into it.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Swagman on Jul 5th, 2012 at 10:39pm
Keee---rrryst......another year of gloating Queenslanders.... :(

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 6th, 2012 at 12:06am

Swagman wrote on Jun 26th, 2012 at 1:43pm:

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 2:40pm:
Its not QLD that has to be beaten ...its MENINGA. 


Big Mal was a great player but is an overrated coach.

Mal is the preverbial "drover's dog" which could have coached QLD over the last 6 years and won...

The Toads just had the best players, Lockyer, Slater, Smith, Thursten, Inglis, Hodges, Thaiday etc etc all in their prime.....but the gloss is fading.... :D


Apparently Mal does little coaching, as such. he is more the public image, the front person.
So it leaves the real coaches out of the limelight and able to focus on what they do.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Jasignature on Jul 17th, 2013 at 5:09pm
Not intereted in watching the final game tonight.

Until they have MARK 'Sparkles'  (The Hammer) MCGAW as the COACH...

...for starters, Laurie Daley (although a step in the positive direction) never got the better of Wally Lewis,
like McGaw got of Meninga (so-called 'Greatest Player') ...even with the Biff.



Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Aussie on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:16pm
:)

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Peter Freedman on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:27pm
:) :) :)

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Aussie on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:31pm
Must make Abbott want to be more than Rudd is as a Queenslander, wot!

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:44pm

Phew

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by John Smith on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:51pm
bugger me, as a blues supporter living in Qld, this is all I'm going to hear about for the next 4 weeks. ...... again ... I'm getting used to it though.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Aussie on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:51pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:44pm:
Phew


Yeah, Sprint, it was an ugly win.  But, we'll take it.  I reckon we are good for nine..............ten could be a challenge.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by John Smith on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:54pm

matty wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 8:49pm:
Why are rugby supporters such bogans? No wonder Swan's so into it.


yeah, why is that?


Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:57pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:51pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:44pm:
Phew


Yeah, Sprint, it was an ugly win.  But, we'll take it.  I reckon we are good for nine..............ten could be a challenge.


An ugly win is a good win.
better than snatching defeat from the jaws of victory any day thanks :-)

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Jasignature on Jul 17th, 2013 at 11:35pm
Told yas.
Nananananana

Meninga will get his PERFECT 10

...unless McGaw appears to just give him 9


Knowing NRL (and AFL ...which is like watching the Ren & Stimpy Show)
...they won't bring in McGaw.
That would be 'common sense'

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by shockresist on Jul 18th, 2013 at 6:38pm

Swagman wrote on Jun 26th, 2012 at 1:43pm:

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 2:40pm:
Its not QLD that has to be beaten ...its MENINGA. 


Big Mal was a great player but is an overrated coach.

Mal is the preverbial "drover's dog" which could have coached QLD over the last 6 years and won...

The Toads just had the best players, Lockyer, Slater, Smith, Thursten, Inglis, Hodges, Thaiday etc etc all in their prime.....but the gloss is fading.... :D


They still have some good upcoming players.

Mcqueen has been very good, boyd has years left in him, teo is a good runner.

Hannant is lucky not to be in the team

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Jasignature on Jul 18th, 2013 at 8:34pm
Officially today on TV:

Michael Hagan is the 'brains' behind QLD
Mal Meninga is the 'father figure' (have heard of a 'pedophile' history with Mal and why he was moved to Canberra years ago  :o)

So Mark McGaw to over-ride Meninga like he did on the field during those NSWinning years.

Who will combat Michael Hagan?

...this is why QLD can play so pathetically and STILL WIN.  ::)

C'mon - who has the answer?
:-?

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 20th, 2013 at 2:34pm

We win more than we should because we wear the colour of passion.

NSW wear the colour of calm, precision, confidence inspiring.

Title: Re: State of Origin
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 20th, 2013 at 6:19pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2013 at 10:51pm:
bugger me, as a blues supporter living in Qld, this is all I'm going to hear about for the next 4 weeks. ...... again ... I'm getting used to it though.


As a Queenslander living in NSW i will be grinning for another year, 8 in a row.

The NSW players/supporters did not  whinge about the ref this time,NSW won the penalty count so they could not use that as an excuse.

The NSW players punch like girls,fair dinkum cheap shots from the big men in NSW and they couldnt even drop someone with a free punch.


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