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A 12 year-old prostitute cries in a medical center in Kinshasa on November, 2010 after she was stoned by another child prostitute. Child prostitutes earn about 2000 Congolese Francs (2.20 USD) for sexual intercourse.


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Last summer I travelled to the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) to help establish the first free legal advice centre in Kinshasa. I arrived with grand aspirations and bags of enthusiasm. But it was short lived. It was not long before I discovered the vast sexual exploitation of young Congolese women at the hands of peace keeping troops, aid workers, non-governmental organisation employees and others acting on behalf of the international community. At restaurants, bars and clubs, white men in smart suits dangled dollars as bait before impoverished young girls’ eyes, some as young as 12. They did so with no shame and arrogant impunity. Their actions are despicable; they rape the most vulnerable children and adults in the world, the very people they are supposed to protect. It is hard to imagine a more grotesque abuse of authority and flagrant violation of human rights. Heavily dependent on foreign aid and with virtually no regulation or accountability, Kinshasa’s justice system is dysfunctional and ill-equipped to deal with a rising tide of sex missionaries. In a city with exceeding levels of unemployment and few opportunities, the impoverished are sexually exploited by do-gooder men because they need money to survive. Victims do not have access to courts and the police, as they are under resourced and the enforcement agents themselves are often complicit in the abuse. Many victims also fear that if they report the abuse they will suffer stigmatisation, negative economic impact, fear of retaliation or retribution and resignation of abuse. As a result an overwhelming majority of victims do not report the abuse. Under-reporting perpetuates a lack of accountability for the abuse, since it underplays the true scale of the problem. This creates a perfect environment for abuse by visiting humanitarian workers to flourish. I discussed the abuse with humanitarian workers and I was astounded by their response. The women I spoke to turn a blind eye and refuse to discuss the matter on anything more than a superficial level. Meanwhile the male abusers believed that their behaviour is acceptable. It seems that once people are taken out of socially and legally controlled societies where their desires are repressed by rules and order, they feel able to fulfil their sexual fantasies through licentious behaviour with no conscience. You might wonder how they reconcile their humanitarian role with their abusive acts; it appears that their charitable purpose compensates for any conscience that might arise.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/05/22/charitable-rape-peacekeepers-dirty-little-secrets/

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It seems that once people are taken out of socially and legally controlled societies where their desires are repressed by rules and order, they feel able to fulfil their sexual fantasies through licentious behaviour with no conscience.

A case of "when in rome" I guess.  The question is why are there no rules or order in the Congo?

I immediately thought of you when I read the bit you quoted.


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The question is why are there no rules or order in the Congo?

Why is this such a huge problem in the vast majority of post colonial countries?

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 1:40pm:

I immediately thought of you when I read the bit you quoted. Quote: The question is why are there no rules or order in the Congo? Why is this such a huge problem in the vast majority of post colonial countries?

Maybe something to do with the people in post-colonial* countries?

Can you see another common link between these post-colonial countries that might explain it a bit better than the bizarre and illogical "legacy of colonialism"?

... wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 1:53pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:40pm: I immediately thought of you when I read the bit you quoted. Quote: The question is why are there no rules or order in the Congo? Why is this such a huge problem in the vast majority of post colonial countries? Maybe something to do with the people in post-colonial* countries? Can you see another common link between these post-colonial countries that might explain it a bit better than the bizarre and illogical "legacy of colonialism"?

No. Want to show me?

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 1:55pm:

... wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:53pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:40pm: I immediately thought of you when I read the bit you quoted. Quote: The question is why are there no rules or order in the Congo? Why is this such a huge problem in the vast majority of post colonial countries? Maybe something to do with the people in post-colonial* countries? Can you see another common link between these post-colonial countries that might explain it a bit better than the bizarre and illogical "legacy of colonialism"? No. Want to show me?

Sure.

http://geology.com/world/world-map-clickable.gif

"post colonial countries" are mostly located in that pink land mass in the middle, labelled "Africa".

Yes.

You think the fact that these people are struggling so much is due to their geographical location?

Is Africa a black hole where law and order gets sucked into an abyss? Or are African people sub-human barbarians incapable of controlling themselves?

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 2:06pm:

Yes. You think the fact that these people are struggling so much is due to their geographical location? Is Africa a black hole where law and order gets sucked into an abyss? Or are African people sub-human barbarians incapable of controlling themselves?

maybe some kinda cultural thing.  Geographically close countries tend to share many cultural aspects.  What do you think? 

Do you think the fact that a white people once lived in these countries adequately explains the shocking incidence of rape and other violent crimes in Africapost colonial countries?  If so, can you please explain your reasoning, as I don't follow. 

Cultural? What are you - a post colonialist?

Try again, PB. I'll even give you a clue. Ever notice the colour of ther skin?

Tinted, innit.

My goodness!  Whatever are you implying?

innit, PB

... wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 6:29pm:

My goodness!  Whatever are you implying?

Don't play the funny bugger with us, PB. We know where you're going with this.

You pomo numpties will never, ever, EVER get it. It's just words on a page to you lot, innit.

Take white civilization with you. It's only taken us a few thousand years to create the disinfected non-tinted world you live in, so feel free to p!ss all over it. It's just good, clean undergraduate fun, what.

Carry on with your fun, PB. Oh, and turn off the light when you've finished.

You can't be suggesting it's genetic?  I mean, if that were true then people who have african genes but none of their culture, lets say.......african americans, would also be prone to commit disproportionate levels of violent crime. 

I'm not aware of any such over representation among african-americans in the us crminal justice system*, are you? To even think this is an atrocity.  Everybody knows that if there was a disparity in the amount of violent crimes committed by african americans, which by the way theres not, then it would be wholly, 100% caused by white racism.  Nothing to do with your "inferior' darkie genes, thank you very much Dr Mengele.

Typical of you pathetic Paki buggerizing post colonectomy numpties to turn this into yet another Amerikan rant. You're obsessed with sticking it to Uncle.

You have black buggers here too, no? I hear they even have an embassy. Reggie would be proud.

interesting

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Annie Anthrax wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 1:40pm:

I immediately thought of you when I read the bit you quoted. Quote: The question is why are there no rules or order in the Congo? Why is this such a huge problem in the vast majority of post colonial countries?

Oh, lawlessness is only "a huge problem in the vast majority of post colonial countries?"

Is that your argument ???

And the problems of mankind [and particularly the problems of the peoples of the 3rd world], are caused by, can be laid at the feet of, the exploitative culture and the exploitative people of the morally exploitative West/1st world.

???i

Annie,

Coming back to the subject of those persons, who are sexually exploiting others, in the Congo [and in other places];

A question;

Do >> you << want the right to choose [and to be unrestrained by rules] ?

Or, do you want the right to choose [and to be unrestrained by rules],
AND,
to have the right to be offended when others are allowed to exercise their choices too [in a totally unrestrained fashion] ?


Annie,

Why are you arguing that the choices of some people should be subject to censure [i.e. but not your choices!] ?


Ah, but you are a moral person.          :P

And the choices that you would make, would never offend others.

But the unrestrained choices of some people should be censured, because their clearly immoral choices, will offend >> you <<] ?

Is that your argument ???




Annie,

Another question;

If you must be permitted [must have the right] to be unrestrained in your choices, then why shouldn't everyone else have that same right ?i
'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1293669294/0#0

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Why when we remove the light of day, and the restraining / calming influence of society / authority do many ppl behave in this way? Why? The TRUTH is that for many of us, human 'civility' is paper thin. Why so? Because many of us 'normal' people, demonstrate [when unrestrained] that we are 'normal' human beings who are vain, selfish, lecherous, greedy, violent creatures, when we are without restraint. And, we demonstrate that we have no moral compass. Why so? Why do ppl start to behave immorally [violently] towards others, when they think that they are unrestrained by authority?

The worst thing about this is the lack of condemnation shown towards the animals lining up to rape these children. Personally i would like to put a bullet into each and every one of them.

ian wrote on Oct 27^th, 2013 at 11:31am:

The worst thing about this is the lack of condemnation shown towards the animals lining up to rape these children. Personally i would like to put a bullet into each and every one of them.

I blame all of those animals who turn up, coming from post colonial countries.

Rape would never happin in Africa,
.....except that those post colonialist bods go there, to exploit the locals, seeking to put their little dickies in places where they shouldn't.       :P




Why can't the post colonialist bods just go chocolate mining, and lip syncing, back in their own homelands !?

... wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 6:29pm:

My goodness!  Whatever are you implying?

Do accept my apology for encouraging a little intelligence. I get a little tired of stupids saying stupid things.


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Even though Rajan doesn’t try to define a failed state, he gives enough evidence what it might mean. It is typically an ex-colony that experienced a civil war following political independence, followed by dictatorial rule by a military junta or a small set of warlords. According to Rajan, there is a vicious circle in the political dynamics of such states. The main participants of civil wars are warlords with narrow support bases predicated on ethnic/regional/tribal loyalties. The very process of civil war destroys the country’s economy and exhausts its resource base. In such a setting, winners in the civil war set out to consolidate their own hold on political power based on the self-serving winner-take-all precepts, which further undermines progression to democratic political and economic norms in an already ravaged society. Needless to say, such an outcome sows seeds for the next stage of the civil war. - See more at: http://sanhati.com/excerpted/3940/#sthash.W52q9FW3.dpuf

I think a lot of the strife in Africa is due to colonialism, in that the colonial powers drew maps of their possessions to suit themselves and in doing so cut tribal areas in half and jammed different tribes together, setting up strains that resulted in civil wars and the breakdown in law and order that always comes in the wake of wars.

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 12^th, 2013 at 2:50pm:

I think a lot of the strife in Africa is due to colonialism, in that the colonial powers drew maps of their possessions to suit themselves and in doing so cut tribal areas in half and jammed different tribes together, setting up strains that resulted in civil wars and the breakdown in law and order that always comes in the wake of wars.

So you're saying multiculturalism is a bad thing?

People-men- that go to the phillipines etc say that sex is too difficult to get in australia. Obviously i'm not defending rape or child abuse but on that note i do observe the importance of not going there for reputational reason. It's crazy when people that go there offer to buy you plane fare and such just to go there with them- such friends must be treated carefully!

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 12^th, 2013 at 5:56pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 12th, 2013 at 2:50pm: I think a lot of the strife in Africa is due to colonialism, in that the colonial powers drew maps of their possessions to suit themselves and in doing so cut tribal areas in half and jammed different tribes together, setting up strains that resulted in civil wars and the breakdown in law and order that always comes in the wake of wars. So you're saying multiculturalism is a bad thing?

;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, but - no but -yeah, but - no, but -yeah, but - no, but-yeah, but - no, but-yeah, but - no, but.

What was the question again?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 12^th, 2013 at 5:56pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 12th, 2013 at 2:50pm: I think a lot of the strife in Africa is due to colonialism, in that the colonial powers drew maps of their possessions to suit themselves and in doing so cut tribal areas in half and jammed different tribes together, setting up strains that resulted in civil wars and the breakdown in law and order that always comes in the wake of wars. So you're saying multiculturalism is a bad thing?

Didn’t mention multiculturalism!