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Message started by Neo Imperium on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:09pm

Title: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:09pm
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/the-tide-of-public-opinion-is-turning-against-immigration/story-e6freuzr-1226362835067

MORE than half of Australians want our borders closed and immigration ended.

New research, provided exclusively to The Daily Telegraph, reveals a dramatic swing against border issues, with 51 per cent in favour of saying no to all migrants - a 10 per cent jump since 2005.

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by The tolerator on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:10pm

JC Denton wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:09pm:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/the-tide-of-public-opinion-is-turning-against-immigration/story-e6freuzr-1226362835067

MORE than half of Australians want our borders closed and immigration ended.

New research, provided exclusively to The Daily Telegraph, reveals a dramatic swing against border issues, with 51 per cent in favour of saying no to all migrants - a 10 per cent jump since 2005.



So? Since when has public opinion mattered when the state/corporate machine wants something?

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:11pm
hey now i never said this is something to be jumping for joy about.

its just better than nothing, isnt it?

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by The tolerator on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:14pm

JC Denton wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:11pm:
hey now i never said this is something to be jumping for joy about.

its just better than nothing, isnt it?



I dunno....maybe I'm just a jaded old crank, but I foresee a redoubling of efforts to demonise/marginalise this line of thought as a result. 

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:15pm
huiuhuhugllugug skills shortages huguguglguugugu FAILING ECONOMY huhugugllug RACISM

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:16pm
the government asked their high priests about this troubling turn of opinion in the public

THE IMMIGRATION GODS

NEED MORE SACRIFICE

that was their answer

but that was always their answer

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by mozzaok on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:17pm

JC Denton wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:09pm:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/the-tide-of-public-opinion-is-turning-against-immigration/story-e6freuzr-1226362835067

MORE than half of Australians want our borders closed and immigration ended.

New research, provided exclusively to The Daily Telegraph, reveals a dramatic swing against border issues, with 51 per cent in favour of saying no to all migrants - a 10 per cent jump since 2005.


How is that good?

Personally I do not rate Xenophobia as a positive character trait.

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by The tolerator on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:19pm

mozzaok wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:17pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:09pm:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/the-tide-of-public-opinion-is-turning-against-immigration/story-e6freuzr-1226362835067

MORE than half of Australians want our borders closed and immigration ended.

New research, provided exclusively to The Daily Telegraph, reveals a dramatic swing against border issues, with 51 per cent in favour of saying no to all migrants - a 10 per cent jump since 2005.


How is that good?

Personally I do not rate Xenophobia as a positive character trait.



What if you chose to forego the pointless labelling?  Could you see a point then?

huiuhuhugllugug skills shortages huguguglguugugu FAILING ECONOMY huhugugllug RACISM huhugugllug XENOPHOBIA

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:19pm
mozz with his finger on the pulse of public opinion

he knows wat makes em tick

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Andrei.Hicks on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:19pm

mozzaok wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:17pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:09pm:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/the-tide-of-public-opinion-is-turning-against-immigration/story-e6freuzr-1226362835067

MORE than half of Australians want our borders closed and immigration ended.

New research, provided exclusively to The Daily Telegraph, reveals a dramatic swing against border issues, with 51 per cent in favour of saying no to all migrants - a 10 per cent jump since 2005.


How is that good?

Personally I do not rate Xenophobia as a positive character trait.


My parents were migrants and they were a benefit to Australia.
I am in favour of migration but rather tightening up who we let in rather than how many.

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by pansi1951 on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:21pm
That just proves that nothing has changed since the Eureka Stockade and the White Australia Policy. We are world renowned for being a racist nation, it's no surprise.

Australians are always happy to leave and go somewhere else to live, hypocrites!

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Spot of Borg on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:21pm

JC Denton wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:09pm:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/the-tide-of-public-opinion-is-turning-against-immigration/story-e6freuzr-1226362835067

MORE than half of Australians want our borders closed and immigration ended.

New research, provided exclusively to The Daily Telegraph, reveals a dramatic swing against border issues, with 51 per cent in favour of saying no to all migrants - a 10 per cent jump since 2005.


Oh. so murdoch/fairfax have decided they wants to end immigration?

SOB

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:21pm
i am in favour of eliminating it or just reducing it to negligble proportions

both are A OK with me

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:22pm

Quote:
That just proves that nothing has changed since the Eureka Stockade and the White Australia Policy. We are world renowned for being a racist nation, it's no surprise.


stop posting you cretin

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by The tolerator on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:27pm

Quote:
Monash University migration expert Bob Birrell said the results showed public opinion about immigration had moved into new territory.

"I think they are right to be worried, we have record levels of immigration and as a consequence we are allowing 100,000 migrants to enter the workforce at a time when employment growth is at a level lower than that," Dr Birrell said.

"People are concerned that the present rate of population growth is not sustainable and is going to make Australia a poorer place to live rather than a better one."

The government's immigration and refugee program for 2012-13 is expected to reach a record 203,000 people, similar to the mass migration intakes of the 1960s.


Just pure racism and/or xenophobia innit?  ::)

Seriously though "eliminating" immigration entirely is dumb, but levels are way too high. 

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:30pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:21pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:09pm:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/the-tide-of-public-opinion-is-turning-against-immigration/story-e6freuzr-1226362835067

MORE than half of Australians want our borders closed and immigration ended.

New research, provided exclusively to The Daily Telegraph, reveals a dramatic swing against border issues, with 51 per cent in favour of saying no to all migrants - a 10 per cent jump since 2005.


Oh. so murdoch/fairfax have decided they wants to end immigration?

SOB

lets hope so

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Uncle Meat on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:35pm

JC Denton wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:30pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:21pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:09pm:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/the-tide-of-public-opinion-is-turning-against-immigration/story-e6freuzr-1226362835067

MORE than half of Australians want our borders closed and immigration ended.

New research, provided exclusively to The Daily Telegraph, reveals a dramatic swing against border issues, with 51 per cent in favour of saying no to all migrants - a 10 per cent jump since 2005.


Oh. so murdoch/fairfax have decided they wants to end immigration?

SOB

lets hope so



From all countries?

No more immigrants from the UK, for example?


Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:37pm
sure meat

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by The tolerator on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:16pm
Now if only this 51% could make as much noise as the 1% who ensure that the trivial issue of homosexual unions enjoys disproportionate attention.


Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Spot of Borg on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:32pm

... wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:16pm:
Now if only this 51% could make as much noise as the 1% who ensure that the trivial issue of homosexual unions enjoys disproportionate attention.


lol @ 1%. maybe 1% are gay but non gays object to them not being treated equally too.

SOB

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by corporate_whitey on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:37pm
We call upon the New World Order to surrender ownership of Australia, its Government, its assets, its infrastructure, its resources,its wealth and its borders back to the Australian people and remove your transnational corporations or face escalating resistance.

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by The tolerator on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:39pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:32pm:

... wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:16pm:
Now if only this 51% could make as much noise as the 1% who ensure that the trivial issue of homosexual unions enjoys disproportionate attention.


lol @ 1%. maybe 1% are gay but non gays object to them not being treated equally too.

SOB


yes, and I'm sure the media inflating this trivial issue to colossal proportions had nothing to do with that. 

so 51% explicitly state they want something, while 1% imply they want something - which issue gets the more prominence in the media? 

Answer:  the one that suits the medias goals/views.   

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Karnal on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:49pm
There's only one race, and that's the human race.

You said so yourself, Honky.

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Spot of Borg on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:54pm

... wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:39pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:32pm:

... wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:16pm:
Now if only this 51% could make as much noise as the 1% who ensure that the trivial issue of homosexual unions enjoys disproportionate attention.


lol @ 1%. maybe 1% are gay but non gays object to them not being treated equally too.

SOB


yes, and I'm sure the media inflating this trivial issue to colossal proportions had nothing to do with that. 

so 51% explicitly state they want something, while 1% imply they want something - which issue gets the more prominence in the media? 

Answer:  the one that suits the medias goals/views.   


Thats right. What the media wants to push. Which @ the moment is thomson.

SOB

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by The tolerator on May 22nd, 2012 at 3:10pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 2:49pm:
There's only one race, and that's the human race.

You said so yourself, Honky.



ggrrrr

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by corporate_whitey on May 22nd, 2012 at 3:52pm
On this continent there is only one people - the Australian people.   If yo have other loyalties then go and live somewhere else.

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 22nd, 2012 at 3:55pm

corporate_whitey wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 3:52pm:
On this continent there is only one people - the Australian people.   If yo have other loyalties then go and live somewhere else.

We prefer to be called imigrant-Australians

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by corporate_whitey on May 22nd, 2012 at 3:57pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 3:55pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 3:52pm:
On this continent there is only one people - the Australian people.   If yo have other loyalties then go and live somewhere else.

We prefer to be called imigrant-Australians

If people are not Australian have no intention of becoming Australian then I invite them to leave

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by The tolerator on May 22nd, 2012 at 4:33pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 3:55pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 3:52pm:
On this continent there is only one people - the Australian people.   If yo have other loyalties then go and live somewhere else.

We prefer to be called imigrant-Australians


I prefer not to call you what you prefer to be called.

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by freediver on May 22nd, 2012 at 7:12pm
I think we just need to be a bit more selective.

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by bobbythebat1 on May 22nd, 2012 at 7:31pm

freediver wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 7:12pm:
I think we just need to be a bit more selective.



I agree FD,
we allow too many losers to come here.

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Grey on May 22nd, 2012 at 7:48pm

freediver wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 7:12pm:
I think we just need to be a bit more selective.


Yeah, who let in all these Tories? Not only do they not understand, 'a fair go', they're all damned ugly. :)

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 22nd, 2012 at 8:42pm
i'm not ugly

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Karnal on May 22nd, 2012 at 8:59pm
You're hardly a Tory, Imperium. More like a Nazi.

I mean this in the nicest possible way, of course.

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 23rd, 2012 at 5:50am

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Spot of Borg on May 23rd, 2012 at 7:01am
What is that supposed to demonstrate? An aging woman who doesnt live here.

SOB

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Karnal on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:22am
Perhaps it represents Imperium's recent conversion to neoliberalism.

There is no such thing as society.

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by The tolerator on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:26am
11,743 - the ideal number of immigrants to Australia for the 2012 -13 financial year.  No more, no less.

203,000 is just ridiculous.   

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by falah on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:22pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 12:19pm:
I am in favour of migration but rather tightening up who we let in rather than how many.


Yes I agree.

Before I moved recently, I had some British neighbours, and they were awful people. Once they even called the local council to complain about the grass in my backyard being too long! They didn't have the balls to come around and say anything to my face. What the Hell were they doing looking in my backyard anyway?

I had European neighbours who were great. Made friends with the Chinese people behind, they would even bring us gifts.

At my new house, the Turkish neighbours are really nice, they invited me to come wround whenever I felt bored. The Filipinos nextdoor seem nice too.

But the British neighbours were the worst neighbours I ever had.



Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Grey on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:09pm
Before I moved recently, I had some falah neighbours, and they were lovely people. Not like the ones you meet around here at all  ;D

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Spot of Borg on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:31pm

Grey wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:09pm:
Before I moved recently, I had some falah neighbours, and they were lovely people. Not like the ones you meet around here at all  ;D


Like falah or not like falah?

SOB

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:49pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:22am:
Perhaps it represents Imperium's recent conversion to neoliberalism.

There is no such thing as society.


neoimperiumism

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Neo Imperium on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:51pm

... wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:26am:
11,743

 

where did that number come from?

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by The tolerator on May 23rd, 2012 at 3:08pm

JC Denton wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:51pm:

... wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:26am:
11,743

 

where did that number come from?


I punched all the pertinent factors into the Cray supercomputer, programmed with my own patented algorithm and that was the number that came out. 

Title: Re: good news everybody
Post by Grey on May 23rd, 2012 at 5:03pm

JC Denton wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:51pm:

... wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:26am:
11,743

 

where did that number come from?


Oooot his arse with the rest of his key slaps.

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