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Title: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:11am

Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

Deuteronomy 22:13-22: If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

Theres heaps more but there ya go

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:34am

Borg, they sound like Bible quotes, not Yadda's beliefs.

By way of a guide, here is a list of our resident Muslims' actual beliefs, with links to where they said it:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Islam_and_Australian_values

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:47am

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:34am:

Yadda pastes bible verses all the time. Its just as bad as the koran. If you are going to judge religions then there ya go. Next will be avrams torah. In it you are supposed to stone ppl and put them to death too.

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:45pm

You are missing the point Borg. The problem is not what is written. The problem is when people want to stone others to death for thought crimes, consensual sex etc. Abu and Falah actually want this. Without that connection back to reality, your point about religion is largely moot. After all, you did not title this thread Christianity. You titled it Yadda's beliefs. But you ended up telling Yadda what he believed. You should let Yadda decide for himself what he believes, and criticise that, if you still think it is wrong.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:50pm

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

Yadda says he would kill all Palestinians...a moot point?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:59pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:11am:

deuteronomy = OT = jews.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:08pm

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:50pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

Yadda says he would kill all Palestinians...a moot point?

Perhaps they are shites.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:10pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:11am:

deuteronomy = OT = jews.

How about leviticus?

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:11pm

How about what Yadda actually believes?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by NorthOfNorth on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:11pm

Falah Fullah Shi'te - I've just finished reading about him. He's a militaristic Sunni Muslim cannibal.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:14pm

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:11pm:

How about what Yadda actually believes?

He believes in the bible doesnt he? I might have to change this thread to "avram" though we shall see. Not being religous i have trouble telling them apart.

Which is why im doing this as you well know freediver. You judge someones religion to be "extreme" but to most normal ppl all these religions are extreme.

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:18pm

You can get extremists from every religion. There just seems to be a lot more from Islam. It is hard to find one that counts as moderate. Abu has claimed before that he represents mainstream Islam, and it is hard to fault him on that claim.

At the end of the day, you can only go by what these people believe. Trying to interpret their bible for them gets silly very quickly. That's why you titled this thread Yadda's beliefs, not 'me telling Christians what they believe'.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:34pm

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

You can get extremists from every religion. There just seems to be a lot more from Islam.

Tell that to the people in Africa who have been raped or had their limbs hacked off by fundamentalist Christian militias run by Kony.

Did George Bush really believe that God told him to start a 'Crusade' in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Why is it that Jews keep telling us that they should be allowed to violently dispossess Palestinians? Something about the Bible promising them Palestine isn't?

Why are Christians blowing up abortion clinics in the US?

Every terrorist attack in Australia in living memory carried out by white Christians!

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by NorthOfNorth on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:42pm

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

You can get extremists from every religion. There just seems to be a lot more from Islam.

So you condemn religious extremism? Do you condemn the same in the name of Islam?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:48pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

You can get extremists from every religion. There just seems to be a lot more from Islam.

So you condemn religious extremism? Do you condemn the same in the name of Islam?

I condemn extremism...and not all of it is religious. Many acts of extremism have been carried out by atheist communists, socialists, anarchists, animal liberationists, etc.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by NorthOfNorth on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:59pm

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:48pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

You can get extremists from every religion. There just seems to be a lot more from Islam.

So you condemn religious extremism? Do you condemn the same in the name of Islam?

I condemn extremism...and not all of it is religious. Many acts of extremism have been carried out by atheist communists, socialists, anarchists, animal liberationists, etc.

That is true, although the examples you gave are those (you claim) of religious extremism.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 19^th, 2012 at 2:11pm

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:48pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

You can get extremists from every religion. There just seems to be a lot more from Islam.

So you condemn religious extremism? Do you condemn the same in the name of Islam?

I condemn extremism...and not all of it is religious. Many acts of extremism have been carried out by atheist communists, socialists, anarchists, animal liberationists, etc.

Yet you excuse 9/11.....

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 19^th, 2012 at 2:15pm

Quote:

At the end of the day, you can only go by what these people believe. Trying to interpret their bible for them gets silly very quickly. That's why you titled this thread Yadda's beliefs, not 'me telling Christians what they believe'.

No. You dont get it? I guess I overestimated your powers of perception. lol. I titled the thread "yaddas beliefs" to make a point to YOU.

You made a thread titled falahs beliefs in this same area and you quoted passages from his holy book.

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 19^th, 2012 at 2:17pm

Quote:

Every terrorist attack in Australia in living memory carried out by white Christians!

Indeed

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 19^th, 2012 at 2:18pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

Quote:

SOB you appear to have me confused with someone else.

The quotes in question were not from a holy book. They were direct quotes of things that Falah himself had posted. See my last post in the stoning shites thread on the Islam board.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 19^th, 2012 at 2:50pm

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 2:18pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

Quote:

you are right. It was sprintcyclist. You did argue with me though about this judging of someones religion to be extremist which is my point.

Someone else in the thread pointed out that some of the stuff I quoted was jewish though so avram should have been cited in that case. Well if its true lets see what yadda says about leviticus.

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:03pm

Most people would see what he has to say first before starting a thread about it.

Most people (excluding Muslims) are more than capable of separating their religion from their politics. In this context 'extremist religion' does not have much meaning.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:29pm

Yadda said that he would kill all Palestinians. A true Christian. Just like the Crusaders before him.

Anders Breivik and Yadda should be put in the same lunatic asylum.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:35pm

But you are better than that because you would give shites a chance to repent?

Falah, if Yadda killed all Palestinians, and you killed everyone you wanted to kill (including after giving them a chance to repent), who do you think would have the highest death toll?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Avram Horowitz on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:41pm

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:29pm:

Yadda said that he would kill all Palestinians. A true Christian. Just like the Crusaders before him.

Anders Breivik and Yadda should be put in the same lunatic asylum.

You defended a rape victim being stoned to death.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:52pm

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

I do not want to kill anyone Freeliar. I have no blood on my hands unlike the Liberal and Labor parties in Australia. I have never killed anyone, unlike those who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq.

I have never killed anyone, nor do I call for the killing of innocent non-combatants.

Yadda has said he would kill innocent non-combatants.

Jewish rabbis funded by the Israeli government call for the killing of innocent non-combatants.

The Australian military under orders from the Liberal and Labor governments has certaintly killed innocent non-combatants.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:54pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:29pm:

Yadda said that he would kill all Palestinians. A true Christian. Just like the Crusaders before him.

Anders Breivik and Yadda should be put in the same lunatic asylum.

You defended a rape victim being stoned to death.

Avram do Jews always lie?

I have posted fatwas on this forum which clearly state that a rape victim should not punished.

Yet it seems that Jews cannot help themselves from lying.

Freeliar are you a Jew? You seem to have a lot in common with Avram.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Avram Horowitz on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:56pm

But you defended the decision in north Somalia to stone to death a young girl who reported rape from 5 men.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 19^th, 2012 at 4:01pm

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:29pm:

Yadda said that he would kill all Palestinians. A true Christian. Just like the Crusaders before him.

Anders Breivik and Yadda should be put in the same lunatic asylum.

This puts yadda in the same catagory as falah according to your criteria. My protest here is the area the thread is in. Falahs should have been in islam and yaddas in xtianity. Unless we just use the extremism area for anything religious.

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 19^th, 2012 at 4:03pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:56pm:

But you defended the decision in north Somalia to stone to death a young girl who reported rape from 5 men.

I provided newspaper reports that said that eyewitnesses said that she was a 23 year-old woman who had admitted to adultery.

You provided an Amnesty report that said she was a victim of rape.

You refused to answer my question about whether Amnesty was a credible source of information.

Avram is Amnesty a credible source of information?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 19^th, 2012 at 4:07pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 4:01pm:

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:29pm:

Yadda said that he would kill all Palestinians. A true Christian. Just like the Crusaders before him.

Anders Breivik and Yadda should be put in the same lunatic asylum.

This puts yadda in the same catagory as falah according to your criteria.

Except that I have never said that I would kill a whole nation of people...or any innocent non-combatants.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Avram Horowitz on May 19^th, 2012 at 4:07pm

Eyewitness who was a corrupt Islamic local.
Her own father said she was 13 years old. Does he not know her age?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 19^th, 2012 at 4:11pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 4:07pm:

Eyewitness who was a corrupt Islamic local.
Her own father said she was 13 years old. Does he not know her age?

Is Amnesty a reliable source Avram?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Avram Horowitz on May 19^th, 2012 at 4:13pm

Her father is the most reliable.
She was 13 and Islamic animals stoned her to death.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 19^th, 2012 at 4:27pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 4:13pm:

Her father is the most reliable.
She was 13 and Islamic animals stoned her to death.

It was Amnesty that was quoting her father. Is Amnesty a reliable source?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 19^th, 2012 at 4:30pm

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:52pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

Ah, the old 'innocence' thing again. You realise Yadda could play the same silly trick and make the same accusations of non-innocence against Palestinians?

falah wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 10:30am:

There is a good case for the death penalty for the Shi-ite leaders who have killed and persecuted Muslims. Just as there is a good case for the death penalty for George Bush, Benjamin Netanhayu, Tony Blair or John Howard - I am advocating for a retrospective change of laws that will allow war criminals like Howard to be executed.

Sounds to me like you are calling for their death Falah. Plus you still have not revealed what your plans would be for all the shites who do utter 'the heresies'.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by adamant on May 20^th, 2012 at 12:53am

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:29pm:

Yadda said that he would kill all Palestinians. A true Christian. Just like the Crusaders before him.

Anders Breivik and Yadda should be put in the same lunatic asylum.

You have clearly stated your hatred and disgust of Jews.
You are a disgusting liar!
You wet your pants in glee at the thought of 30 Jewish prison guards being burnt to death when they were roasted by being rostered on to empty a Jewish prison caught in a bush fire path. (prison full of Muslim scum )
You are the biggest and most frequent liar on this forum.
Why don't you go live in Saudi Arabia your hatred will be appreciated much more in that truly great Kaffir place, your blatant lies regarding non Muslims will be totally ignored which would be classed as a great boon to a bloated corpulent bigot such as yourself.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 20^th, 2012 at 1:17am

Adamant wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 12:53am:

You wet your pants in glee at the thought of 30 Jewish prison guards being burnt to death when they were roasted by being rostered on to empty a Jewish prison caught in a bush fire path. (prison full of Muslim scum )

When Nazi Zionist oppressors can no longer harm Muslims it is a good thing.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 20^th, 2012 at 2:11am

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:52pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

Firstly;
No moslem is a 'non-combatant'. [ <---- this is true. ]

Secondly;
That [#1 above] is not my own definition, but ISLAM's definition of ALL moslems.
i.e. All moslems, are combatants, for Allah's cause.

Here are just 3 examples from ISLAM's foundation text, the Koran, commanding >> every moslem << to enmity and warfare against all non-moslems....

#1,
"Those who believe in Allah and the Last Day ask thee for no exemption from fighting...And Allah knoweth well those who do their duty."
Koran 9.44

#2,
"Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).
And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"
Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan."
Koran 4.74-76

#3,
"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216
N.B. Allah himself, declares that fighting against the 'unbelievers' is a 'religious' obligation for every moslem.

And, there are dozens more examples of Allah and Mohammed exhorting moslems to open warfare against non-moslems,
......for the reason, that non-moslems do not believe, as moslems believe.

Thirdly;
Here is an example of what falah categorises as 'Palestinian' 'non-combatants'.

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These people [above], are people who will gladly, MURDER THEIR OWN CHILDREN, for the glory of Allah.

They are MOSLEMS.

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."
ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......A moslem, promoting, justifying, ISLAM's murder of those who do not believe, as they believe.

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p.s.

Its good to at least be able to respond to the accusations made against me.

Carry on. ;)

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 20^th, 2012 at 2:23am

Spot of Borg,

Clearly i do not need to express my beliefs in this thread.

You have me 'in a box', and Spot of Borg is fully capable of speaking for me in this forum, on the matter of expressing my deepest beliefs.

Right ?

Clever you.

IMAGE

Spot of Borg,

#9, is the one to look to - Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 20^th, 2012 at 2:30am

"And what do you believe Yadda, about X, Y, or Z ?"

A.
Ask 'Spot of Borg'.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 20^th, 2012 at 8:48am

Yadda wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 2:23am:

Yadda I was told it was actually the jews that believe the stuff in deuteronomy and acknowledged that earlier. However I still need to hear your thoughts on leviticus.

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 20^th, 2012 at 12:55pm

So Yadda admits that not only does he want to kill all Palestinians, but now he wants to kill all Muslims.

There is someone on this forum who wants to kill more than 1 billion people!

Yadda wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 2:11am:

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:52pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

Firstly;
No moslem is a 'non-combatant'. [ <---- this is true. ]

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:11pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 8:48am:

Yadda wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 2:23am:

Yadda I was told it was actually the jews that believe the stuff in deuteronomy and acknowledged that earlier.

However I still need to hear your thoughts on leviticus.

SOB

No you don't.

You are just 'baiting' me.iBut here goes, anyway.....

My attitude towards the OT covenant and its laws, is that;

If two person's enter into a covenant, and if one party breaks that covenant, shouldn't the terms of the covenant apply, against the party that transgressed the covenant ?

The OT bible records that the Hebrew people entered into a covenant, with their God.

"...And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.
And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do...."
Exodus 19:5-8

The God of Israel made a covenant with his people, and, the Hebrew people made a covenant with their God.

If the Hebrew people transgressed [broke] their side of the covenant, shouldn't those particular people responsible for the transgression of the covenant be punished, ACCORDING TO THE TERMS OF THE COVENANT ?

Or should people be permitted to ignore the >> PROMISES << which they make ?

And should people be permitted to do as they please **, and to walk away from their responsibilities and their commitments to abide by agreements which they have made ?

** Which is lawlessness, in my book!

Leviticus 20:24
...I am the LORD your God, which have separated you from other people.

Leviticus 20:26
And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine.

Deuteronomy 7:6
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

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OT covenant laws applied to the Hebrew people. [ <--- the 'covenant' people. ]

OT covenant laws are NOT binding upon Christians.

OT covenant laws are NOT binding upon Gentiles [i.e. 'infidels'].

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p.s.
And all that a Hebrew person had to do [1,400 BC], to escape those OT covenant laws, was to leave his people, and to join himself to the world.

And guess what?

We [humanity] have all 'joined ourselves to this world'.

Today, we [all humanity] are all infidels, before God.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:17pm

Well. Okay then. Fine. I guess it was avram i should have directed this to. Sorry like I said i get these religions confused.

Now on another note: was what falah said right? Do you believe all the muslims deserve to die? Or all the palestinians? Or anybody?

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:23pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:17pm:

SOB,

My only comment is that you should perhaps start a new thread, called;

'falah's Beliefs'

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 20^th, 2012 at 4:31pm

Yadda wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:17pm:

SOB,

My only comment is that you should perhaps start a new thread, called;

'falah's Beliefs'

Hahaha. That is funny. Did you read this entire thread? I stated that my only reason for making this thread was because of the thread titled "falahs beliefs". To demonstrate that all these silly religions have extremist beliefs. I did have your religion confused with avrams though I think.

I am not absolutely convinced I was wrong yet though. Who deserves to die and who decides that? Are there groups of ppl that deserve to be wiped out? Because of your religion?

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 20^th, 2012 at 5:23pm

Yadda wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

+++

OT covenant laws applied to the Hebrew people. [ <--- the 'covenant' people. ]

OT covenant laws are NOT binding upon Christians.

Typical hypocrite picking and choosing from the Bible as you desire.

Quote:

(Jesus said) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the way of the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the rabbis, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5:17-20

Yadda wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

Today, we [all humanity] are all infidels, before God.

Speak for yourself.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 20^th, 2012 at 8:33pm

we have been over this ground any times falah

you repeatedly lie or point blank refuse to listen to any quotes or explainations given.

it is a waste of time to chat with you.

Quote:

Then Jesus said, “Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear.”

Mark 4:9

you do not listen

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 21^st, 2012 at 8:46am

falah wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 5:23pm:

Yadda wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

+++

OT covenant laws applied to the Hebrew people. [ <--- the 'covenant' people. ]

OT covenant laws are NOT binding upon Christians.

Typical hypocrite picking and choosing from the Bible as you desire.

Quote:

Yadda wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

Today, we [all humanity] are all infidels, before God.

Speak for yourself.

Falah I don't see anything in there about killing people. From memory you recently promoted punishmnet in the afterlife as the only available Islamic punishment for raping your wife or slave. You have however promoted killing many people, then went all shy when you realised how absurd you sound.

Which is why you can no longer give a straight answer to a simple question - like what should happen to Iranian Shites who utter the heresies or refuse to repent their sins?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 21^st, 2012 at 12:45pm

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 8:46am:

falah wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 5:23pm:

Yadda wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

OT covenant laws applied to the Hebrew people. [ <--- the 'covenant' people. ]

OT covenant laws are NOT binding upon Christians.

Typical hypocrite picking and choosing from the Bible as you desire.

Quote:

Yadda wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

Today, we [all humanity] are all infidels, before God.

Speak for yourself.

Falah I don't see anything in there about killing people.

C'mon Freeliar, you know as well as I do that there is much killing in the Law of the Old Testament - have you even read the Bible?

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12)

Kill Witches

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)

Kill Fortunetellers

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27)

Death for Hitting Dad

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15)

Death for Cursing Parents

1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9)

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10)

Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9)

Death to Followers of Other Religions

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5)

Death for Blasphemy

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16)

Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5)

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die

...they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself...That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anway...
(Romans 1:24-32)

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 21^st, 2012 at 12:59pm

Killing in the Bible cont'd...

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15)

Kill Old Men and Young Women
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.

(Note that after God supposedly promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter)
(Jeremiah 51:20-26)

You Have to Kill

Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10)

Destruction of Ai
Then the LORD said to Joshua, "Do not be afraid or discouraged. Take the entire army and attack Ai, for I have given to you the king of Ai, his people, his city, and his land. You will destroy them as you destroyed Jericho and its king. But this time you may keep the captured goods and the cattle for yourselves. Set an ambush behind the city." So Joshua and the army of Israel set out to attack Ai. Joshua chose thirty thousand fighting men and sent them out... When the king of Ai saw the Israelites across the valley, he and all his army hurriedly went out early the next morning and attacked the Israelites at a place overlooking the Jordan Valley. But he didn't realize there was an ambush behind the city. Joshua and the Israelite army fled toward the wilderness as though they were badly beaten, and all the men in the city were called out to chase after them. In this way, they were lured away from the city. There was not a man left in Ai or Bethel who did not chase after the Israelites, and the city was left wide open.

Then the LORD said to Joshua, "Point your spear toward Ai, for I will give you the city." Joshua did as he was commanded. As soon as Joshua gave the signal, the men in ambush jumped up and poured into the city. They quickly captured it and set it on fire. When the men of Ai looked behind them, smoke from the city was filling the sky, and they had nowhere to go. For the Israelites who had fled in the direction of the wilderness now turned on their pursuers. When Joshua and the other Israelites saw that the ambush had succeeded and that smoke was rising from the city, they turned and attacked the men of Ai. Then the Israelites who were inside the city came out and started killing the enemy from the rear. So the men of Ai were caught in a trap, and all of them died. Not a single person survived or escaped. Only the king of Ai was taken alive and brought to Joshua. When the Israelite army finished killing all the men outside the city, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai was wiped out that day – twelve thousand in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. Only the cattle and the treasures of the city were not destroyed, for the Israelites kept these for themselves, as the LORD had commanded Joshua. So Ai became a permanent mound of ruins, desolate to this very day. Joshua hung the king of Ai on a tree and left him there until evening. At sunset the Israelites took down the body and threw it in front of the city gate... (Joshua 8:1-29)

Killing at Jericho
When the people heard the sound of the horns, they shouted as loud as they could. Suddenly, the walls of Jericho collapsed, and the Israelites charged straight into the city from every side and captured it. They completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21)

Mass Murder

The men of Israel withdrew through the territory of the Benjaminites, putting to the sword the inhabitants of the city, the livestock, and all they chanced upon. Moreover they destroyed by fire all the cities they came upon. (Judges 20:48)

Kill Your Neighbors
(Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, "All of you who are on the LORD's side, come over here and join me." And all the Levites came. He told them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors." The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, "Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing." (Exodus 32:26-29)

Kill the Family of Sinners
And Joshua said to Achan, My son, give, I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of Israel, and make confession to him; and tell me now what thou hast done, hide it not from me. And Achan answered Joshua, and said, Indeed I have sinned against the LORD God of Israel, and thus and thus have I done. When I saw among the spoils a goodly Babylonish garment, and two hundred shekels of silver, and a wedge of gold of fifty shekels weight, then I coveted them, and took them, and behold, they are hid in the earth in the midst of my tent, and the silver under it." [Note that the sin is not looting, but failing to give the loot to the treasury of the Lord.] "So Joshua sent messengers, and they ran to the tent, and behold, it was hid in his tent, and the silver under it. And they took them from the midst of the tent, and brought them to Joshua, and to all the children of Israel, and laid them out before the LORD. And Joshua, and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah, and the silver, and the garment, and the wedge of gold, and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and his tent, and all that he had: and they brought them to the valley of Achor. And Joshua said, why hast thou troubled us? the LORD shall trouble thee this day. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones...(Joshua 7:19-26)

Kill Followers of Other Religions
While the Israelites were camped at Acacia, some of the men defiled themselves by sleeping with the local Moabite women. These women invited them to attend sacrifices to their gods, and soon the Israelites were feasting with them and worshiping the gods of Moab. Before long Israel was joining in the worship of Baal of Peor, causing the LORD's anger to blaze against his people. The LORD issued the following command to Moses: "Seize all the ringleaders and execute them before the LORD in broad daylight, so his fierce anger will turn away from the people of Israel." So Moses ordered Israel's judges to execute everyone who had joined in worshiping Baal of Peor. Just then one of the Israelite men brought a Midianite woman into the camp, right before the eyes of Moses and all the people, as they were weeping at the entrance of the Tabernacle. When Phinehas son of Eleazar and grandson of Aaron the priest saw this, he jumped up and left the assembly. Then he took a spear and rushed after the man into his tent. Phinehas thrust the spear all the way through the man's body and into the woman's stomach. So the plague against the Israelites was stopped, but not before 24,000 people had died. (Numbers 25:1-9)

Kill False Prophets
Then Elijah commanded, "Seize all the prophets of Baal. Don't let a single one escape!" So the people seized them all, and Elijah took them down to the Kishon Valley and killed them there. (1 Kings 18:36-40)

Kill All of Babylon
"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22)

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 21^st, 2012 at 6:17pm

So Falah, why can you not be equally straight about Islam? Is it because you are more ashamed of Islam?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 21^st, 2012 at 7:57pm

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 6:17pm:

So Falah, why can you not be equally straight about Islam? Is it because you are more ashamed of Islam?

Freeliar it is you who lied about Biblical Law containing killing. Was it because you were ashamed of the Bible?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 21^st, 2012 at 8:31pm

quote me

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:10pm

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 8:46am:

Falah I don't see anything in there about killing people

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:54pm

falah wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:10pm:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 8:46am:

Falah I don't see anything in there about killing people

Seeing as you took it out of context Falah, perhaps you can fill us in.

Was there anything in the passage I referred to about killing people?

Where exactly is the lie?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 21^st, 2012 at 10:44pm

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:54pm:

falah wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:10pm:

[quote author=34203737363B243720520 link=1337382690/49#49 date=1337554001]

Was there anything in the passage I referred to about killing people?

[quote](Jesus said) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the way of the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Matthew 5:17

Freeliar what is "the Law" in the Biblical sense? Does it not cover all the commands to kill from Old Testament?

Let's face it, Kony may be a murderer but at least, unlike you, he is honest about the Bible.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:57am

falah wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 12:55pm:

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:52pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

Firstly;
No moslem is a 'non-combatant'. [ <---- this is true. ]

falah,

Strangely enough, if someone, anyone [moslem or non-moslem], tried to murder me or someone i loved, i would feel justified in 'ending' that person.

Some people may claim that such an act would be illegal.

That would be their judgement, not mine.

I would consider such an act, a righteous killing.

And i know that i must answer to God for for what i do, for my choices.

Psalms 32:2
Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.iBut, it is ISLAM and moslems, who are making all of the threats to murder people.

falah,

Isn't it true that it is ISLAM and moslems, who are making all of the threats, and that moslems are justifying those threats of violence [against non-moslems] using the excuse of, their religious 'piety' ?
Koran 9.123 Koran 9.111 Koran 9.29

Dictionary;
pious = = devoutly religious.

Isn't it ISLAM and moslems, who are threatening to muder all non-moslems [if non-moslems refuse to allow moslems to impose ISLAMIC law in our non-moslem societies] ?

falah,

Isn't it true that moslems can 'righteously' kill non-moslems, whenever killing non-moslems is done to help make Allah's religion superior in the land [i.e. 'fighting in Allah's cause'] ?

Isn't it true that the never ending moslem 'struggle' against non-moslems is a 'righteous' 'struggle', even when that 'struggle' will include moslem violence against non-moslems ?

Isn't it true that moslems intend to use force [violence] to impose ISLAMIC law upon all non-moslems, at a future moment, when the time is suited to moslems, at the 'opportune' moment ?

falah,

Are moslems justified in making war against non-moslems, because they are non-moslems ?
Koran 2.98 Koran 4.74-76 Koran 47:8-11

Are moslems justified in killing non-moslems, if non-moslems resist moslems who are seeking to impose ISLAMIC law, in host societies, where moslems reside as cultural guests ?

Quote:

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

Quote:

Pakistani cleric: 'We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world. We would like to do this by preaching. But if not then we would use force.'

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/12/pakistani-cleric-we-want-islamic-law-for-all-pakistan-and-then-the-world-we-would-like-to-do-this-by.html

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026

"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.080i

n.b.
......"He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause."

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 22^nd, 2012 at 2:13am

falah wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 5:23pm:

Yadda wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

+++

OT covenant laws applied to the Hebrew people. [ <--- the 'covenant' people. ]

OT covenant laws are NOT binding upon Christians.

Typical hypocrite picking and choosing from the Bible as you desire.

falah,

It is not my fault that your comprehension of English language is so poor.

Quote:

The OT bible records that the Hebrew people entered into a covenant, with their God.

"...And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.
And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do...."
Exodus 19:5-8

The God of Israel made a covenant with his people, and, the Hebrew people made a covenant with their God.[/color][/i]

A covenant is an agreement made between two party's.

I am not Jewish, and i am not legally constrained by that OT covenant, a covenant made between the God of Israel, and, the Hebrew people.

I am guided by that OT covenant [and i am guided by the whole OT text], but not legally bound by it.

Each one of us, has to make our own moral choices.

And we all do.

John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 22^nd, 2012 at 3:17am

Yadda wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:57am:

But, it is ISLAM and moslems, who are making all of the threats to murder people.

falah,

Isn't it true that it is ISLAM and moslems, who are making all of the threats, and that moslems are justifying those threats of violence [against non-moslems] using the excuse of, their religious 'piety' ?
Koran 9.123 Koran 9.111 Koran 9.29

Dictionary;
pious = = devoutly religious.

Isn't it ISLAM and moslems, who are threatening to muder all non-moslems [if non-moslems refuse to allow moslems to impose ISLAMIC law in our non-moslem societies] ?

falah,

Isn't it true that moslems can 'righteously' kill non-moslems, whenever killing non-moslems is done to help make Allah's religion superior in the land [i.e. 'fighting in Allah's cause'] ?

Isn't it true that the never ending moslem 'struggle' against non-moslems is a 'righteous' 'struggle', even when that 'struggle' will include moslem violence against non-moslems ?

Isn't it true that moslems intend to use force [violence] to impose ISLAMIC law upon all non-moslems, at a future moment, when the time is suited to moslems, at the 'opportune' moment ?

falah,

Are moslems justified in making war against non-moslems, because they are non-moslems ?
Koran 2.98 Koran 4.74-76 Koran 47:8-11

Are moslems justified in killing non-moslems, if non-moslems resist moslems who are seeking to impose ISLAMIC law, in host societies, where moslems reside as cultural guests ?

The 'multicultural' chooks are coming home to roost in Germany......

Google;
"Germany: Islamic supremacist calls for murder of members of anti-Sharia party"

falah,

If moslems murder Germans who are of members of an anti-Sharia party, WOULD THAT BE A RIGHTEOUS KILLING, by moslems, in the 'cause of Allah' ???

+++

"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026

"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.080i

n.b.
......"He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause."

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 22^nd, 2012 at 3:35am

Yadda wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:57am:

AND, the 'moslem democracy', the 'moslem freedom', and teh 'Arab Spring way' chooks are all coming home to roost in Egypt......

Google;
"Egypt: Islamic supremacists warn of "armed action," murder if secularist wins presidency"

falah,

If moslems murder secularists in Egypt, so as to steal the upcoming election,
WOULD THESE BE RIGHTEOUS KILLINGS,
by moslems, in the 'cause of Allah' ???

+++

"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026

"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.080i

n.b.
......"He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause."

++++++++++++

Hey falah,

Your fate is sealed.

But you are just to dumb to acknowledge it.

You and your 'brothers' are the 'kuffar'.
[.....the liars, the deceivers, those who hide and deny the truth.]

Two of my favourite Koran verses..... ;D ;D ;D

"Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in Hell, and from it they will find no way of escape."
Koran 4.120

"Then, on the Day of Judgment,.....Then would they offer submission (with the pretence), "We did no evil (knowingly)." (The angels will reply), "Nay, but verily [God] knoweth all that ye did;"
Koran 16.27

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 22^nd, 2012 at 7:40am

Yadda is leviticus in the OT or do you have to abide by it?

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 22^nd, 2012 at 8:42am

falah wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 10:44pm:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:54pm:

falah wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:10pm:

[quote author=34203737363B243720520 link=1337382690/49#49 date=1337554001]

Was there anything in the passage I referred to about killing people?

[quote](Jesus said) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the way of the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Matthew 5:17

I would expect it is the ten commandments. Jesus outlines very clearly in that same passage what the 'religious' punishment is - the same punishment you promote for men who rape their wives and slaves.

In any case, I would not be so silly as to tell people what their beliefs are. If you want to know Falah, try asking them instead. Most people are not ashamed of their beliefs and are happy to tell you about them.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:21pm

freediver wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 8:42am:

falah wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 10:44pm:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:54pm:

falah wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:10pm:

[quote author=34203737363B243720520 link=1337382690/49#49 date=1337554001]

Was there anything in the passage I referred to about killing people?

[quote](Jesus said) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the way of the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Matthew 5:17

I would expect it is the ten commandments.

That is not how 'the Law' was understood by adherents of the Bible in the time of Jesus Freeliar.

The 'Law' was understood to be all the commands by God in the Bible - which includes the death penalty for a number of crimes including being disobedient to your parents.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by freediver on May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:31pm

I hope you don't expect me to take you seriously when it comes to other religions Falah. I can't even get you to be honest about Islam.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 23^rd, 2012 at 7:54am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 7:40am:

Yadda is leviticus in the OT or do you have to abide by it?

SOB

Well?

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:09am

freediver wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:31pm:

I hope you don't expect me to take you seriously when it comes to other religions Falah. I can't even get you to be honest about Islam.

Deflection Freeliar?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:11am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 7:40am:

Yadda is leviticus in the OT or do you have to abide by it?

SOB

sob,

Are you another one, who does not comprehend the English language ?

Quote:

A covenant is an agreement made between two party's.

I am not Jewish,......

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1337382690/59#59

Yes, Leviticus is in the OT.

I have to abide by God's law.

If i sin against God's law, God will destroy me.

Ezekiel 18:4
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

What is God's law ???

God's law, is the law of righteousness.

Matthew 6:33
.....seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;....

Jeremiah 9:23
Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:
24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.

n.b.
Loving kindness, righteousness AND, judgement.

What is 'righteousness' ?

"And what is good, Phaedrus? And what is not good? Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?"
Plato
and found in, Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance

But what is 'righteousness' ?

Just like everyone else [here], i have been given the freedom to make [moral] choices in this life.

What is 'righteousness' ?

That is our responsibility, we choose to know good, OR, we choose to know evil.

It is a simple choice.

We merely have to choose to seek the light [truth], or, choose to KNOW the darkness [i.e. seeking to act just as you please [i.e. lawlessness], all the while seeking to avoid responsibility for the consequences of your choices].

And seeking to avoid responsibility for the consequences of our choices, is what people who love lawlessness tend to do, i.e. >> CRIMINALS<<.

'lawlessness' ???

Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

God hates lawlessness [in men] !

And he will not tolerate it, in us.

Psalms 5:4
For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.

If you are a person who chooses lawlessness, in this life, God will destroy you.

+++

Daniel 12:10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Karnal on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:21am

You asked for it, SOB.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:32am

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:21am:

You asked for it, SOB.

Yes. I did. 4 times. Thanks for finally answering yadda. I just wanted to know if it was the xtians or the jews that believe in leviticus. Geez.

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:33am

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:21am:

You asked for it, SOB.

Exactly K.    ;D

Be careful what you ask for.       ;)

Eh ?

In our journey here, we either come to love God, and his righteousness,    OR,    we choose the world.

The vast majority of mankind, will choose this world, and what it offers.

Death [....ultimately].

+++

1 John 5:4
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:35am

[edit]sob,

Are you another one, who does not comprehend the English language ?[/edit]

Yadda you had not answered my question I had asked 4 times. All I wanted to know was if leviticus was in the OT. Thankyou for finally answering.

Okay. Then you are not bound by the OT except for the 10 commandments right?

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:54am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:35am:

[edit]sob,

Are you another one, who does not comprehend the English language ?[/edit]

Yadda you had not answered my question I had asked 4 times.

All I wanted to know was if leviticus was in the OT.

Thankyou for finally answering.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 7:43am:

Thanks Falah I was going to make this thread.

I have read the koran.

I have read the bible.

SOB

sob reads bible.

but sob does not comprehend, does not know, if the book of Leviticus is in the bible.

???

Like Yadda said.......

Quote:

sob,

Are you another one, who does not comprehend the English language ?

sob,

Did you give the same attention to the content of the Koran, as what you did, when you read the bible ???

:P

I'm sure that you did. :P

"In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful."
Koran 1.1

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 23^rd, 2012 at 12:24pm

Okay yadda. If you ant to be that way.

Quote:

sob reads bible.

but sob does not comprehend, does not know, if the book of Leviticus is in the bible.

Speaking of comprehension the question was about whether it was OT or NT. Obviously i knew it was in the bible.

I did not memorise all the chapter names. I bet you dont know all the chapter names either but you would know which are OT and NT if you only are bound by 1 of them.

Quote:

Did you give the same attention to the content of the Koran, as what you did, when you read the bible ???

I read them I didnt memorise them. As I pointed out @ the beginning I dont know which bits are figurative and which are literal. This is why I am asking you the questions.

Now that I addressed your pathetic attempt @ diversion can you tell me what I want to know?

Okay. Then you are not bound by the OT except for the 10 commandments right?

Do you believe you have to kill or "stone" anyone in your religion?

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:03pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 12:24pm:

Now that I addressed your pathetic attempt @ diversion can you tell me what I want to know?

Okay. Then you are not bound by the OT except for the 10 commandments right?

Do you believe you have to kill or "stone" anyone in your religion?

SOB

I am not bound by the 10 commandments. [....but i can read them, and i have come to the conclusion that i should try to obey them.]

I don't have to kill anyone for my religion.

I am a flawed human being, and i do not have the right to take the life of another human being.

But in a 'creature' response, i would defend myself.

If i don't 'turn the other cheek', and do NOT allow myself to be victimised or brutalised, will God condemn me ?

Perhaps.

I try to do what i believe is righteous, .....and i believe that God will judge my actions and choices.

Personally, i believe that killing another human being in > legitimate < self defence is justifiable, AND, that it would be pardoned by my God.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Karnal on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:09pm

Yadda wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:33am:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:21am:

You asked for it, SOB.

Exactly K.    ;D

Be careful what you ask for.       ;)

Eh ?

In our journey here, we either come to love God, and his righteousness,    OR,    we choose the world.

Or we choose third-hand accounts of the word/ld and sincerely believe that we know something.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 24^th, 2012 at 9:35am

Quote:

Thankyou yadda. And thanks for not calling me names. That is what I wanted to know.

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 25^th, 2012 at 10:13pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:09pm:

Yadda wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:33am:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:21am:

You asked for it, SOB.

Exactly K.    ;D

Be careful what you ask for.       ;)

Eh ?

In our journey here, we either come to love God, and his righteousness,    OR,    we choose the world.

Or we choose third-hand accounts of the word/ld and sincerely believe that we know something.

Speak for yourself, Special K.

Yadda - experiencing this life, 1st hand.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Karnal on May 26^th, 2012 at 9:33pm

Yadda wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 10:13pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:09pm:

Yadda wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:33am:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:21am:

You asked for it, SOB.

Exactly K.    ;D

Be careful what you ask for.       ;)

Eh ?

In our journey here, we either come to love God, and his righteousness,    OR,    we choose the world.

Or we choose third-hand accounts of the word/ld and sincerely believe that we know something.

Speak for yourself, Special K.

Believe me, Yadda, I do!

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 27^th, 2012 at 1:07am

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 9:33pm:

Yadda wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 10:13pm:

Speak for yourself, Special K.

Believe me, Yadda, I do!

One minute trying to appear a serious mind, .....the next, playing the forum joker.

I don't trust you.

K,

You should change your 'nick'.

Dictionary;
dissemble = = hide or disguise one’s true motives or feelings.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on May 27^th, 2012 at 10:54am

Yadda wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:03pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 12:24pm:

I am not bound by the 10 commandments. [....but i can read them, and i have come to the conclusion that i should try to obey them.]

I don't have to kill anyone for my religion.

So you would just kill all Palestinians and all Muslims just out hatred alone?

Yadda wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:03pm:

I am a flawed human being,

You certainly have a flawed moral compass.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 28^th, 2012 at 11:47pm

falah wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 10:54am:

Yadda wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:03pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 12:24pm:

I am not bound by the 10 commandments. [....but i can read them, and i have come to the conclusion that i should try to obey them.]

I don't have to kill anyone for my religion.

So you would just kill all Palestinians and all Muslims just out hatred alone?

Yadda wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:03pm:

I am a flawed human being,

You certainly have a flawed moral compass.

falah,

In a 'perfect world' i would seek to separate myself from moslems, and i would allow moslems to progress their own nations and communities, AS THEY WISH.

But i would outlaw moslems from living permanently in Western nations.

Why so ?

Because moslems believe that they have the right to murder those who do not believe as they believe.

The Koran.....

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

From ISLAMIC law texts, declaring how moslems may 'lawfully' treat those who are not moslems....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/fus3_50.html#3.110

n.b. "Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

The Hadith,
"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

ISLAM is a cancer to the human psyche.

+++

I believe that Western nations should bring back [or, ENFORCE current] treason and sedition laws.

And bring back the public execution of those convicted of treason.

Just as the Koran promotes.....

"Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City....whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy)."
Koran 33.60,61

Google;
Muslim Brotherhood aim, muslims, destroy their miserable house, from within

Google;
muslims, eliminating and destroying western civilization from within

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 28^th, 2012 at 11:53pm

Yaddas Beliefs

I count the Jewish people [people like Avram], as my brothers and sisters [and i always have].

The God of Israel has promised that he will join us, Judah and [Gentile] Israel, and bring us back together.

The God of Israel has made and everlasting covenant with Israel, his [whole] people.

Ezekiel 37

Ezekiel 37:16
......take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

Ezekiel 37:21
And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
.....
24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 29^th, 2012 at 9:38am

Yadda. What are your thoughts on muslims? In a nutshell.

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Karnal on May 29^th, 2012 at 9:56am

Yadda wrote on May 27^th, 2012 at 1:07am:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 9:33pm:

Yadda wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 10:13pm:

Speak for yourself, Special K.

Believe me, Yadda, I do!

Yadda, you don't seem to understand irony. It's not just joking - it means saying two different things at the same time.

Anyway, I wasn't being ironic. I was saying I'm often guilty of the same dogma as you.

And I don't think it's healthy. It's something I need to work on.

Trust yourself!

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on May 29^th, 2012 at 11:24pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 29^th, 2012 at 9:38am:

Yadda. What are your thoughts on muslims? In a nutshell.

SOB

I believe that moslems choose to embrace ISLAM because moslems have a gaining in mind.

And, they are mistaken, but they cannot see it.

I say;
Let moslems be, whoever they want to be.

Let moslems travel whatever 'path' they want to travel [in this life].

When we choose the evil, it is because we ourselves choose it.

No one compels us, to choose the evil.

And let moslems understand, that the God of creation is the God of Israel.

What moslems worship, is a demon, imo.

And, if moslems wish to worship a demon, then that is their own choice.

And when we take our last breath in this body, we will go, and each one of us will be judged by God, the God of creation.

And God will hold each one of us responsible for our own choices in this life.

Galatians 6:7
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Psalms 146:8
The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:

Anyone can repent [i.e. be sorry] before God [in their heart].

Anyone [who repents] can be accepted by God.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on May 30^th, 2012 at 8:14am

Thanks mate

Quote:

What moslems worship, is a demon, imo.

Well its the same god. The god of abraham apparently. They just have a different word for god.

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Karnal on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:11am

Yes, but first you must name your evil. Take your pick: the Torah, the Koran, John Stuart-Mill's On Liberty.

It's called ethics. The choice is yours.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on Jun 2^nd, 2012 at 11:21pm

What is your position on black people Yadda?

Yadda wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

this came in......due to lack of band width, i have NOT watched it.

"Black Folk Don't Know How to Run No Nation" (6.25)

Quote:

This is a 6.25min video...and it's dynamite! It shows a black preacher, speaking to a black audience...but just imagine if a white man said this! He would spend the rest of his life in prison - yet this guy tells it exactly how it is...and they all listen!

I have long thought this and certainly about Africa, but wouldn't dream of saying so! I saw it develop in B'ham, from 1955 onwards, as they immigrated into our city. Now, on top of this...we have the Muslim issue!

http://www.reallyreality.com/f10/black-folk-dont-know-how-run-no-nation-1463/

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 2:06am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 8:14am:

Thanks mate

Quote:

What moslems worship, is a demon, imo.

Well its the same god.

The god of abraham apparently. They just have a different word for god.

SOB

What is the title of this thread again ???

Ah, that's right, SOB's Beliefs.

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 7:05am

Yadda wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 2:06am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 8:14am:

Thanks mate

Quote:

What moslems worship, is a demon, imo.

Well its the same god.

The god of abraham apparently. They just have a different word for god.

SOB

What is the title of this thread again ???

Ah, that's right, SOB's Beliefs.

Oh sorry. Thought you were xtian. You re muslim are you?

SOB

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Yadda on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 2:16pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 7:05am:

Yadda wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 2:06am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 8:14am:

Thanks mate

Quote:

What moslems worship, is a demon, imo.

Well its the same god.

The god of abraham apparently. They just have a different word for god.

SOB

What is the title of this thread again ???

Ah, that's right, SOB's Beliefs.

Oh sorry. Thought you were xtian. You re muslim are you?

SOB

God forbid!

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Karnal on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 2:43pm

Christian, Muslim, Jew, all are friends, isn't it?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by falah on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 3:17pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

Quote:

Woman faces caning in Singapore for graffiti

Good.

Good, good, good, good,........good.

Yadda wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 3:13pm:

falah wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 3:03pm:

Singapore has:

*canings for unauthorised immigrants

Excellent !!!!!!!!

When is Australia going to follow Sing's lead ?

Title: Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 7:57am

Okay. Well Yadda I took you on your word that you were a harmless xtian and didnt want anyone to die. Now I find you fibbed a lil and you want to kill all the palestinians. Does your bible approve of this act?

SOB