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Message started by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 8:42am

Title: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 8:42am
UNIONS should back the Greens workplace policies at the next election because they offer the best protection for workers and reflect schemes from this week's Australian Council of Trade Unions congress, deputy leader Adam Bandt says.

Mr Bandt, the Greens lower house MP and workplace spokesman, told the Herald the party's policies, including making it easier for people to negotiate flexible working hours, better job security agreements, and requiring an employer to give a minimum notice of three days before locking out staff, were shared by the ACTU.

''I hope the new ACTU leadership faithfully tells its membership of the Greens' strong protection of peoples' rights at work. As we head towards the next election, Australians deserve honest information about who will best protect their rights at work,'' Mr Bandt said.

''When it comes to protecting peoples' rights at work, the Abbott-proof fence is painted Green.''

The Greens have bills in Parliament that Mr Bandt says will give people a better work-life balance, create a fairer bargaining system and make jobs more reliable and less insecure.

In February, Mr Bandt introduced legislation that would make it easier for workers and employers to negotiate working hours outside of the traditional nine-to-five regime so they could act as carers. The law would also use Fair Work Australia as an umpire if the sides were unable to come to a reasonable resolution.


http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/bandt-wants-unions-to-back-greens-policies-20120517-1yto1.html



Should the Unions support Greens because their policies are better for workers ... or the ALP because it suits the leaders in their ALP political career.

Who should the Union support?

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by progressiveslol on May 18th, 2012 at 8:48am
Have the greens costed their policies yet? Cant make up your mind about policies unless they are costed.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by freediver on May 18th, 2012 at 8:49am
If they can get Labor divorced from the Unions that would be a good thing.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Swagman on May 18th, 2012 at 8:51am
You should be asking......"Will the Greens Get ANY votes...... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Spot of Borg on May 18th, 2012 at 8:52am

freediver wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:49am:
If they can get Labor divorced from the Unions that would be a good thing.


Why?

SOB

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by freediver on May 18th, 2012 at 8:57am
The unions have too much political power. Voters are left with a choice between the conservative party and one that is held to ransom by internal union links.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 9:02am

progressiveslol wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:48am:
Have the greens costed their policies yet? Cant make up your mind about policies unless they are costed.




Have the liberals financed their black hole.

And have the Nationals costed their $10,000 Baby Bonus.


Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Spot of Borg on May 18th, 2012 at 9:20am

freediver wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:57am:
The unions have too much political power. Voters are left with a choice between the conservative party and one that is held to ransom by internal union links.


So what do you think should happen? Doesnt someone have to support them? Labour party is supposed to be the working persons party. Supposed to be.

SOB

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 9:22am
The Carbon Tax is class war by the Greens against the working class... 8-)

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 9:23am
Why do the Greens want to profit from the sale of Narcotics and whores in working class suburbs? 8-)

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by cods on May 18th, 2012 at 9:36am
hahahahahahahaha..


as the greenies tie themselves to backhoes.. and coal loaders... stopping any form of work.. I would think the unions voting green will be when the moon turns to green cheese and probably not even then..


if the greens have their way there will be no jobs to worry about they all create pollution.. or kill something..according to them

mind you doesnt stop them driving cars and flying in great big planes though.


even though that means trees being lopped to make a road or an airport..

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Spot of Borg on May 18th, 2012 at 9:52am

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:22am:
The Carbon Tax is class war by the Greens against the working class... 8-)



The carbon tax is racism!

SOB

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by cods on May 18th, 2012 at 9:58am

freediver wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:57am:
The unions have too much political power. Voters are left with a choice between the conservative party and one that is held to ransom by internal union links.




what sort of DEAL would the craft vote buying greens do with the Unions?


... doesnt bare thinking about.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 10:12am

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:22am:
The Carbon Tax is class war by the Greens against the working class... 8-)




How is the carbon tax class war when AGW inaction will reduce the wealth of all Australians.

Repeat, all Australians.

How is it class wars when everyone will suffer the consequences of the Right's inaction.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 10:15am

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:23am:
Why do the Greens want to profit from the sale of Narcotics and whores in working class suburbs? 8-)




Are the whores is narcotics in the liberal party held electorates better quality?

You sir, are the one waging class warfare for the right wing liberal party.


Yesterday you turned on the Aboriginal and today you turn on middle Australia.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 10:18am

cods wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:36am:
hahahahahahahaha..


as the greenies tie themselves to backhoes.. and coal loaders... stopping any form of work.. I would think the unions voting green will be when the moon turns to green cheese and probably not even then..


if the greens have their way there will be no jobs to worry about they all create pollution.. or kill something..according to them

mind you doesnt stop them driving cars and flying in great big planes though.


even though that means trees being lopped to make a road or an airport..




There are more jobs than the coal pit ... jobs in associate with agriculture, fishing, tourism, insurance, retail, manufacturing and so on.

More jobs than those created by your boss, Clive Palmer. Most Australians do not work in the coal pit and it's about time you cods, pull your head out of the tailings.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 10:21am

cods wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:58am:

freediver wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:57am:
The unions have too much political power. Voters are left with a choice between the conservative party and one that is held to ransom by internal union links.




what sort of DEAL would the craft vote buying greens do with the Unions?


... doesnt bare thinking about.




The agreement would be, support us if we have the best policies for workers .. if some other party comes forward with better policies for workers, shift their support.


Unlike you cods, this is not just a political game ... this effects Australian. The Australians you have turned your back on.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 11:42am

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:12am:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:22am:
The Carbon Tax is class war by the Greens against the working class... 8-)




How is the carbon tax class war when AGW inaction will reduce the wealth of all Australians.

Repeat, all Australians.

How is it class wars when everyone will suffer the consequences of the Right's inaction.

tHE gREENS ARE ALL ABOUT THE RICH INNER SUBURBS AND STEALING OFF THE OUTER SUBURBS.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 11:45am
The Greens will liquidate the working class mortguage belt with their policies and turn our suburbs into slums.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 12:06pm

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:42am:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:12am:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:22am:
The Carbon Tax is class war by the Greens against the working class... 8-)




How is the carbon tax class war when AGW inaction will reduce the wealth of all Australians.

Repeat, all Australians.

How is it class wars when everyone will suffer the consequences of the Right's inaction.

tHE gREENS ARE ALL ABOUT THE RICH INNER SUBURBS AND STEALING OFF THE OUTER SUBURBS.




I live in the outer suburbs ... and so is much of Greens support base.


Now try again ... this time not blurting hard right spew without thought.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 12:08pm

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:45am:
The Greens will liquidate the working class mortguage belt with their policies and turn our suburbs into slums.



It is not the Greens that want coal electricity to force up the cost of living while Greens renewable electricity is on projection to be cheaper than coal in the near future.

The Hard Right have financial interest in forcing up the cost of living.

i.e Clive Palmer Donations.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 12:15pm

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:42am:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:12am:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:22am:
The Carbon Tax is class war by the Greens against the working class... 8-)




How is the carbon tax class war when AGW inaction will reduce the wealth of all Australians.

Repeat, all Australians.

How is it class wars when everyone will suffer the consequences of the Right's inaction.

tHE gREENS ARE ALL ABOUT THE RICH INNER SUBURBS AND STEALING OFF THE OUTER SUBURBS.




I live in the outer suburbs ... and so is much of Greens support base.


Now try again ... this time not blurting hard right spew without thought.

Lies, there are no Greens supporters out here and it seems funny a person who deeply believes in inner suburban Vice Trading on the Outer suburbs through Pokie Venues, narcotic sales and burger chains calls me right wing Lol... ;D ;D ;D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 12:18pm

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:08pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:45am:
The Greens will liquidate the working class mortguage belt with their policies and turn our suburbs into slums.



It is not the Greens that want coal electricity to force up the cost of living while Greens renewable electricity is on projection to be cheaper than coal in the near future.

The Hard Right have financial interest in forcing up the cost of living.

i.e Clive Palmer Donations.

The Greens are old school vice traders and scammers, they would sell their own Grandmother, they will crush the outer suburbs unless we resist inner suburban predators like you.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 12:47pm
The Green must stay away from the working class and stop trying to decieve our communities with their elitist predatory lies and Vice... 8-)

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by freediver on May 18th, 2012 at 1:06pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:20am:

freediver wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:57am:
The unions have too much political power. Voters are left with a choice between the conservative party and one that is held to ransom by internal union links.


So what do you think should happen? Doesnt someone have to support them? Labour party is supposed to be the working persons party. Supposed to be.

SOB


It is the institutionalised links that bother me. I am all for NGO's encouraging members to vote a certain way. It is when they (as an organisation) hold an internal position within the party that it is a problem.

I don't really care what the party is 'supposed' to be. It's what it is that matters.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 1:49pm
I say its time for the working class to take down the inner suburban vice dealers and ban their pokie machines and fast food outlets and other money earners out of our suburbs. 8-)

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 3:38pm
When will te Green stop subsidizing McDonald's corp and its destucton of the Earth and get them out of out working class suburbs?
:D

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 3:55pm

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:15pm:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:42am:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:12am:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:22am:
The Carbon Tax is class war by the Greens against the working class... 8-)




How is the carbon tax class war when AGW inaction will reduce the wealth of all Australians.

Repeat, all Australians.

How is it class wars when everyone will suffer the consequences of the Right's inaction.

tHE gREENS ARE ALL ABOUT THE RICH INNER SUBURBS AND STEALING OFF THE OUTER SUBURBS.




I live in the outer suburbs ... and so is much of Greens support base.


Now try again ... this time not blurting hard right spew without thought.

Lies, there are no Greens supporters out here and it seems funny a person who deeply believes in inner suburban Vice Trading on the Outer suburbs through Pokie Venues, narcotic sales and burger chains calls me right wing Lol... ;D ;D ;D :D ;D ;D ;D



I live in outer Western Sydney and Greens came close to winning the local booth, in the last federal elections.

Greens supporters are everywhere.

And you are a right winger, thats why you were silent on the right's attack on Aboriginals in Queensland and Northern Territory.

You sir, are a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 4:05pm

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:55pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:15pm:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:42am:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:12am:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:22am:
The Carbon Tax is class war by the Greens against the working class... 8-)




How is the carbon tax class war when AGW inaction will reduce the wealth of all Australians.

Repeat, all Australians.

How is it class wars when everyone will suffer the consequences of the Right's inaction.

tHE gREENS ARE ALL ABOUT THE RICH INNER SUBURBS AND STEALING OFF THE OUTER SUBURBS.




I live in the outer suburbs ... and so is much of Greens support base.


Now try again ... this time not blurting hard right spew without thought.

Lies, there are no Greens supporters out here and it seems funny a person who deeply believes in inner suburban Vice Trading on the Outer suburbs through Pokie Venues, narcotic sales and burger chains calls me right wing Lol... ;D ;D ;D :D ;D ;D ;D



I live in outer Western Sydney and Greens came close to winning the local booth, in the last federal elections.

Greens supporters are everywhere.

And you are a right winger, thats why you were silent on the right's attack on Aboriginals in Queensland and Northern Territory.

You sir, are a wolf in sheep's clothing.

No one out here believes you Green - you are a pampered private school inner suburban Green who supports Earth destroying McDonald's in working class suburbs...go on deny it. 8-)

:D ::) :P

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 4:09pm

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 4:05pm:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:55pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:15pm:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:42am:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:12am:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:22am:
The Carbon Tax is class war by the Greens against the working class... 8-)




How is the carbon tax class war when AGW inaction will reduce the wealth of all Australians.

Repeat, all Australians.

How is it class wars when everyone will suffer the consequences of the Right's inaction.

tHE gREENS ARE ALL ABOUT THE RICH INNER SUBURBS AND STEALING OFF THE OUTER SUBURBS.




I live in the outer suburbs ... and so is much of Greens support base.


Now try again ... this time not blurting hard right spew without thought.

Lies, there are no Greens supporters out here and it seems funny a person who deeply believes in inner suburban Vice Trading on the Outer suburbs through Pokie Venues, narcotic sales and burger chains calls me right wing Lol... ;D ;D ;D :D ;D ;D ;D



I live in outer Western Sydney and Greens came close to winning the local booth, in the last federal elections.

Greens supporters are everywhere.

And you are a right winger, thats why you were silent on the right's attack on Aboriginals in Queensland and Northern Territory.

You sir, are a wolf in sheep's clothing.

No one out here believes you Green - you are a pampered private school inner suburban Green who supports Earth destroying McDonald's in working class suburbs...go on deny it. 8-)

:D ::) :P




Outer Sydney West

So deny it


And being a vego, don't touch maccas.


Now Righty Whitey, pull your head in and start telling how it is.

You are a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 4:17pm

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 4:09pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 4:05pm:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:55pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:15pm:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:42am:

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:12am:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:22am:
The Carbon Tax is class war by the Greens against the working class... 8-)




How is the carbon tax class war when AGW inaction will reduce the wealth of all Australians.

Repeat, all Australians.

How is it class wars when everyone will suffer the consequences of the Right's inaction.

tHE gREENS ARE ALL ABOUT THE RICH INNER SUBURBS AND STEALING OFF THE OUTER SUBURBS.




I live in the outer suburbs ... and so is much of Greens support base.


Now try again ... this time not blurting hard right spew without thought.

Lies, there are no Greens supporters out here and it seems funny a person who deeply believes in inner suburban Vice Trading on the Outer suburbs through Pokie Venues, narcotic sales and burger chains calls me right wing Lol... ;D ;D ;D :D ;D ;D ;D



I live in outer Western Sydney and Greens came close to winning the local booth, in the last federal elections.

Greens supporters are everywhere.

And you are a right winger, thats why you were silent on the right's attack on Aboriginals in Queensland and Northern Territory.

You sir, are a wolf in sheep's clothing.

No one out here believes you Green - you are a pampered private school inner suburban Green who supports Earth destroying McDonald's in working class suburbs...go on deny it. 8-)

:D ::) :P




Outer Sydney West

So deny it


And being a vego, don't touch maccas.


Now Righty Whitey, pull your head in and start telling how it is.

You are a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The Green inner suburburban vice dealers don't touch McDonallds...they eat their fancy chardonnay resteraunts - no they profit from and support vice and earth destroying industries like McDonalds in working class suburbs and get political kickbacks and funding graft for the Green. 8-)

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by cods on May 18th, 2012 at 6:00pm

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:18am:

cods wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:36am:
hahahahahahahaha..


as the greenies tie themselves to backhoes.. and coal loaders... stopping any form of work.. I would think the unions voting green will be when the moon turns to green cheese and probably not even then..


if the greens have their way there will be no jobs to worry about they all create pollution.. or kill something..according to them

mind you doesnt stop them driving cars and flying in great big planes though.


even though that means trees being lopped to make a road or an airport..




There are more jobs than the coal pit ...[highlight] jobs in associate with agriculture, fishing, tourism, insurance, retail, manufacturing and so on.[/highlight]

More jobs than those created by your boss, Clive Palmer. Most Australians do not work in the coal pit and it's about time you cods, pull your head out of the tailings.






agriculture... you mean the farms the Chinese are buying up... so you tell us..

fishing... what even though you have shut off most of the fishing..have you tries to buy a licence to fish of late??

tourism....yeah right... all that high priced /penalty rates holidays at home..cheaper to fly to Bangkok and back.


insurance... LOL.. selling or assessing..

retail you dont read the finance pages do you?


manufacturing.... which manufacturing are you talking about... not the car industry I trust..

we wont have one in two years.


you didnt mention construction... WOW I wonder why?



some how I do not see a lifetime of work in any of those careers you think will take the place of mining...


this country is blessed with minerals... sadly they need to be dug up..


why you think they are poison I will never know..

it took millions of years of droughts and bushfires to create this bounty..

and yet you can see no worth in it..

just whinge whinge whinge.


good luck with the insurance selling..

Title: Re: Will Greens Get The Union Vote
Post by cods on May 18th, 2012 at 6:03pm

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:21am:

cods wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:58am:

freediver wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:57am:
The unions have too much political power. Voters are left with a choice between the conservative party and one that is held to ransom by internal union links.




what sort of DEAL would the craft vote buying greens do with the Unions?


... doesnt bare thinking about.




The agreement would be, support us if we have the best policies for workers .. if some other party comes forward with better policies for workers, shift their support.


Unlike you cods, this is not just a political game ... this effects Australian. The Australians you have turned your back on.





me turned my back on.. are you kidding me.... thats exactly how I see you and the greens..


shut down industry shut down manufacturing... replace it with insurance selling>>   YAHOO! hilarious.

you want light rail but you dont give a sheet where the steel comes from do you?..

or will it all be made from recycled egg boxes?

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