America now has more babies born from "ethnic minorities" according to their census.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/17/us-census-babies-ethnic-minorities?newsfeed=true

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 6:46pm:

America now has more babies born from "ethnic minorities" according to their census. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/17/us-census-babies-ethnic-minorities?newsfeed=true SOB

America has only been "European" for a few hundred years..for thousands of years it was very different and now the non American blood is being bred out.

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America has only been "European" for a few hundred years..for thousands of years it was very different and now the non American blood is being bred out.

...?

by asians, african immigrants and people with mixed spanish and amerindian ancestry, from tribes that never lived or existed in the united states to begin with? those americans are breeding out the non-american blood, huh?

Why does it even matter?

JC Denton wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 7:14pm:

Quote: America has only been "European" for a few hundred years..for thousands of years it was very different and now the non American blood is being bred out. ...? by asians, african immigrants and people with mixed spanish and amerindian ancestry, from tribes that never lived or existed in the united states to begin with? those americans are breeding out the non-american blood, huh?

The American Indians are the descendants of the  Asians that migrated across the globe originally from Africa (where all of our ancestors came from).
The mix of races they have now are more American than the diseased ridden Europeans that invaded the country only a few hundred years ago

uh huh - i see all your civicist pretentions seem to fly out of the window when you're talking about non-whites.

Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race".

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 8:16am:

Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race". SOB

Where's the segregation?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 10:56am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race". SOB Where's the segregation?

the segregation is mainly under the guise of "cultures" and you know where it is. The Chinese over there the japanese over there the lebanese over there etc etc all these lil cultures inside our country instead of all mixing up together.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:02am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:56am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race". SOB Where's the segregation? the segregation is mainly under the guise of "cultures" and you know where it is. The Chinese over there the japanese over there the lebanese over there etc etc all these lil cultures inside our country instead of all mixing up together. SOB

That's called D I V E R S I T Y.  Lefties claim to love diversity...so why is the end point of their gambit the complete elimination of it? 

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:02am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:56am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race". SOB Where's the segregation? the segregation is mainly under the guise of "cultures" and you know where it is. The Chinese over there the japanese over there the lebanese over there etc etc all these lil cultures inside our country instead of all mixing up together. SOB That's called D I V E R S I T Y.  Lefties claim to love diversity...so why is the end point of their gambit the complete elimination of it?

Do you ever make sense?

Diversity is fine in the world. I personally dont like the segregation and different cultures separate from ours in our country though.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:38am:

... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:35am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:02am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:56am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race".SOB Where's the segregation? the segregation is mainly under the guise of "cultures" and you know where it is. The Chinese over there the japanese over there the lebanese over there etc etc all these lil cultures inside our country instead of all mixing up together. SOB That's called D I V E R S I T Y.  Lefties claim to love diversity...so why is the end point of their gambit the complete elimination of it?  Do you ever make sense? Diversity is fine in the world. I personally dont like the segregation and different cultures separate from ours in our country though. SOB

aaaah hum.
Can you explain how to reconcile the 2 highlighted statements? 

To put it even simpler - wheres the diversity if we all become "one race"?

LOL....Why won't you answer my question?  :P

TT

Hahahaha.

"I want one race."  "No, hang on, I want diversity." "No wait, I want one race." "I want ... umm ah..."

Yoohoo, Annie. Do you see what happens when people debate on instant emotional responses and don't think their position through?

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:43am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:38am: ... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:35am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:02am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:56am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race".SOB Where's the segregation? the segregation is mainly under the guise of "cultures" and you know where it is. The Chinese over there the japanese over there the lebanese over there etc etc all these lil cultures inside our country instead of all mixing up together. SOB That's called D I V E R S I T Y.  Lefties claim to love diversity...so why is the end point of their gambit the complete elimination of it?  Do you ever make sense? Diversity is fine in the world. I personally dont like the segregation and different cultures separate from ours in our country though. SOB aaaah hum. Can you explain how to reconcile the 2 highlighted statements?  To put it even simpler - wheres the diversity if we all become "one race"?

What i said was diversity in the world  but stop the segregation in our country. Learn to read.

What has it got to do with "lefties"? Pretty sure both of our "wings" of govt like it segregated.

SOB

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 12:33pm:

Hahahaha. "I want one race."  "No, hang on, I want diversity." "No wait, I want one race." "I want ... umm ah..." Yoohoo, Annie. Do you see what happens when people debate on instant emotional responses and don't think their position through?

Do you see what happens when you dont read and comprehend?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:43am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:38am: ... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:35am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:02am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:56am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race".SOB Where's the segregation? the segregation is mainly under the guise of "cultures" and you know where it is. The Chinese over there the japanese over there the lebanese over there etc etc all these lil cultures inside our country instead of all mixing up together. SOB That's called D I V E R S I T Y.  Lefties claim to love diversity...so why is the end point of their gambit the complete elimination of it?  Do you ever make sense? Diversity is fine in the world. I personally dont like the segregation and different cultures separate from ours in our country though. SOB aaaah hum. Can you explain how to reconcile the 2 highlighted statements?  To put it even simpler - wheres the diversity if we all become "one race"? What i said was diversity in the world  but stop the segregation in our country. Learn to read. What has it got to do with "lefties"? Pretty sure both of our "wings" of govt like it segregated. SOB

What you call "segregation" in our country is otherwise known as "multiculturalism".  I'm glad we agree that this is a toxic and destructive ideology.
Of course, the logical solution is to stop importing alien cultures, not keep doing it and then waiting 100 gnerations for us all to blend into one.(which will never happen anyway)

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 12:41pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:35pm: ... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:43am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:38am: ... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:35am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 11:02am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 10:56am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race".SOB Where's the segregation? the segregation is mainly under the guise of "cultures" and you know where it is. The Chinese over there the japanese over there the lebanese over there etc etc all these lil cultures inside our country instead of all mixing up together. SOB That's called D I V E R S I T Y.  Lefties claim to love diversity...so why is the end point of their gambit the complete elimination of it?  Do you ever make sense? Diversity is fine in the world. I personally dont like the segregation and different cultures separate from ours in our country though. SOB aaaah hum. Can you explain how to reconcile the 2 highlighted statements?  To put it even simpler - wheres the diversity if we all become "one race"? What i said was diversity in the world  but stop the segregation in our country. Learn to read. What has it got to do with "lefties"? Pretty sure both of our "wings" of govt like it segregated. SOB What you call "segregation" in our country is otherwise known as "multiculturalism".  I'm glad we agree that this is a toxic and destructive ideology. Of course, the logical solution is to stop importing alien cultures, not keep doing it and then waiting 100 gnerations for us all to blend into one.(which will never happen anyway)

Well it is pretty annoying to agree with you I must say.

Anyway if they stopped the crap it would happen.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 12:47pm:

Well it is pretty annoying to agree with you I must say. Anyway if they stopped the crap it would happen. SOB

If who stopped what crap, what would happen?

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 1:28pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:47pm: Well it is pretty annoying to agree with you I must say. Anyway if they stopped the crap it would happen. SOB If who stopped what crap, what would happen?

Geez. Pay attention. Follow the conversation. If the govts stopped the "multiculturalism" crap then we would be 1 culture.

you cant even agree to agree.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 1:31pm:

... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 1:28pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:47pm: Well it is pretty annoying to agree with you I must say. Anyway if they stopped the crap it would happen. SOB If who stopped what crap, what would happen? Geez. Pay attention. Follow the conversation. If the govts stopped the "multiculturalism" crap then we would be 1 culture. you cant even agree to agree. SOB

No we wouldn't. 
What makes you think abos would be happy to forget their culture and "melt into one"?

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 1:43pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 1:31pm: ... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 1:28pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:47pm: Well it is pretty annoying to agree with you I must say. Anyway if they stopped the crap it would happen. SOB If who stopped what crap, what would happen? Geez. Pay attention. Follow the conversation. If the govts stopped the "multiculturalism" crap then we would be 1 culture. you cant even agree to agree. SOB No we wouldn't.  What makes you think abos would be happy to forget their culture and "melt into one"?

I didnt say anyone would be happy about it. I dont care. IMO its what will happen eventually.

Aboriginals are different situation ATM though. They were here first. According to their perspective we should be melting into their culture. Its not going to happen though obviously. And I am talking about the far future as well since its obvious that it wont happen any time soon. It will happen with the races like in america before it happens with the cultures imo.

What do you think will happen?

SOB

People (except DWL's) have a general preference for their own people.  That's why blacks overwhelmingly hook up with other blacks, honkies overhwlemingly hook up with other honkies etc.  Don't see any reason why it needs to be forced - there is no benefit to be had from doing so. 

Every wonder why Cap'n Picard fought so hard against assimilation by the borg?  Because a loss of diversity and individuality is a terrible price to pay. 

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 2:42pm:

People (except DWL's) have a general preference for their own people.  That's why blacks overwhelmingly hook up with other blacks, honkies overhwlemingly hook up with other honkies etc.  Don't see any reason why it needs to be forced - there is no benefit to be had from doing so.  Every wonder why Cap'n Picard fought so hard against assimilation by the borg?  Because a loss of diversity and individuality is a terrible price to pay.

Not true. Before succession, many Pakistanis married Indians and vica versa.

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 2:42pm:

People (except DWL's) have a general preference for their own people.  That's why blacks overwhelmingly hook up with other blacks, honkies overhwlemingly hook up with other honkies etc.  Don't see any reason why it needs to be forced - there is no benefit to be had from doing so.  Every wonder why Cap'n Picard fought so hard against assimilation by the borg?  Because a loss of diversity and individuality is a terrible price to pay.

Who is proposing force?

SOB

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 2:42pm:

People (except DWL's) have a general preference for their own people.  That's why blacks overwhelmingly hook up with other blacks, honkies overhwlemingly hook up with other honkies etc.  Don't see any reason why it needs to be forced - there is no benefit to be had from doing so.  Every wonder why Cap'n Picard fought so hard against assimilation by the borg?  Because a loss of diversity and individuality is a terrible price to pay.

It's funny how your definition of diversity seems to be different  homogenous groups living on their own separate island.

I had to look up the word to verify whether I was making a mistake in meaning.

Here's what I found;

: the condition of having or being composed of differing elements : variety; especially : the inclusion of different types of people (as people of different races or cultures) in a group or organization <programs intended to promote diversity in schools>
2
: an instance of being composed of differing elements or qualities : an instance of being diverse <a diversity of opinion>

Synonyms: assortment, diverseness, variety, heterogeneity, heterogeneousness, manifoldness, miscellaneousness, multifariousness, multiplicity, variousness

Antonyms: alikeness, analogousness, analogy, community, likeness, resemblance, sameness, similarity

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diversity


1.
the state or fact of being diverse;  difference; unlikeness.
2.
variety; multiformity.
3.
a point of difference.

Synonyms
2.  change, difference, variation, dissimilarity.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/diversity

I also find it funny that you reference Cap'n Picard and the Star Trek universe.




Different races living and working side by side (and even interbreeding) for the good of all.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:

... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 2:42pm: People (except DWL's) have a general preference for their own people.  That's why blacks overwhelmingly hook up with other blacks, honkies overhwlemingly hook up with other honkies etc.  Don't see any reason why it needs to be forced - there is no benefit to be had from doing so.  Every wonder why Cap'n Picard fought so hard against assimilation by the borg?  Because a loss of diversity and individuality is a terrible price to pay.  Who is proposing force? SOB

Well if people aren't happy to do soemthing,


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I didnt say anyone would be happy about it

but you think it'll happen anyway,

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IMO its what will happen eventually

it suggests they're forced into it, does it not?

darkhall67 wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 3:13pm:

I also find it funny that you reference Cap'n Picard and the Star Trek universe. Different races living and working side by side (and even interbreeding) for the good of all.

yes side by side, not on top of each other.  You don't see the federation inviting the Borg to migrate to earth do you?

Curious how the federation is still 99% white, even in the 24th century, dontya think? 

darkhall67 wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 3:10pm:

... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 2:42pm: People (except DWL's) have a general preference for their own people.  That's why blacks overwhelmingly hook up with other blacks, honkies overhwlemingly hook up with other honkies etc.  Don't see any reason why it needs to be forced - there is no benefit to be had from doing so.  Every wonder why Cap'n Picard fought so hard against assimilation by the borg?  Because a loss of diversity and individuality is a terrible price to pay.  It's funny how your definition of diversity seems to be different  homogenous groups living on their own separate island. I had to look up the word to verify whether I was making a mistake in meaning. Here's what I found; : the condition of having or being composed of differing elements : variety; especially : the inclusion of different types of people (as people of different races or cultures) in a group or organization <programs intended to promote diversity in schools> 2 : an instance of being composed of differing elements or qualities : an instance of being diverse <a diversity of opinion> Synonyms: assortment, diverseness, variety, heterogeneity, heterogeneousness, manifoldness, miscellaneousness, multifariousness, multiplicity, variousness Antonyms: alikeness, analogousness, analogy, community, likeness, resemblance, sameness, similarity http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diversity 1. the state or fact of being diverse;  difference; unlikeness. 2. variety; multiformity. 3. a point of difference. Synonyms 2.  change, difference, variation, dissimilarity. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/diversity

What part are you having trouble with darkie? 

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 8:16am:

Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race". SOB

There is no such thing as race. Science has found that the percentage of difference in DNA between European and African is the same percentage that you would find from village to village across Europe. We are the same.

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 3:18pm:

darkhall67 wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:13pm: I also find it funny that you reference Cap'n Picard and the Star Trek universe. Different races living and working side by side (and even interbreeding) for the good of all. yes side by side, not on top of each other.  You don't see the federation inviting the Borg to migrate to earth do you? Curious how the federation is still 99% white, even in the 24th century, dontya think?

Klingons are white now?

darkhall67 wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 3:40pm:

... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:18pm: darkhall67 wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:13pm: I also find it funny that you reference Cap'n Picard and the Star Trek universe. Different races living and working side by side (and even interbreeding) for the good of all. yes side by side, not on top of each other.  You don't see the federation inviting the Borg to migrate to earth do you? Curious how the federation is still 99% white, even in the 24th century, dontya think?  Klingons are white now?

Do klingons make up a lot of the federation?*

*I rarely watch it, so forgive me if "the federation" isn't the right term to use for earth-dwellers.

falah wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 3:30pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race". SOB There is no such thing as race. Science has found that the percentage of difference in DNA between European and African is the same percentage that you would find from village to village across Europe. We are the same.

Take your disinformational groupthink elsewhere ya clown. 

falah wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 3:30pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race". SOB There is no such thing as race. Science has found that the percentage of difference in DNA between European and African is the same percentage that you would find from village to village across Europe. We are the same.

But even the pinko lefty sociologists believe in race as a political construct.

lol

race denial fallacies straight out of dicky lewontins playbook

falah is so dumb though hes not even worth talking to

falah do yourself a favour and stop talking about things you really don't understand

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 3:55pm:

falah wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:30pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race". SOB There is no such thing as race. Science has found that the percentage of difference in DNA between European and African is the same percentage that you would find from village to village across Europe. We are the same. Take your disinformational groupthink elsewhere ya clown.

You are obviously not a scientist.

Among humans, race has no taxonomic significance; all living humans belong to the same hominid subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.

'Race' is a social contruct which has no basis in science.

Racism exists and is based on ignorant people's misconceptions.

falah wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 3:30pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race". SOB There is no such thing as race. Science has found that the percentage of difference in DNA between European and African is the same percentage that you would find from village to village across Europe. We are the same.

Exactly. But we usually mean skin color when we refer to race.

SOB

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 3:52pm:

darkhall67 wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:40pm: ... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:18pm: darkhall67 wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:13pm: I also find it funny that you reference Cap'n Picard and the Star Trek universe. Different races living and working side by side (and even interbreeding) for the good of all. yes side by side, not on top of each other.  You don't see the federation inviting the Borg to migrate to earth do you? Curious how the federation is still 99% white, even in the 24th century, dontya think?  Klingons are white now? Do klingons make up a lot of the federation?* *I rarely watch it, so forgive me if "the federation" isn't the right term to use for earth-dwellers.

The first incarnation of star trek was done in the 60s and there was only the 1 significant non-white human. AFter that they became more common though and you should watch DS9 sometime or Voyager.

SOB

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 3:52pm:

darkhall67 wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:40pm: ... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:18pm: darkhall67 wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:13pm: I also find it funny that you reference Cap'n Picard and the Star Trek universe. Different races living and working side by side (and even interbreeding) for the good of all. yes side by side, not on top of each other.  You don't see the federation inviting the Borg to migrate to earth do you? Curious how the federation is still 99% white, even in the 24th century, dontya think?  Klingons are white now? Do klingons make up a lot of the federation?* *I rarely watch it, so forgive me if "the federation" isn't the right term to use for earth-dwellers.

It's the united federation of planets.



"The United Federation of Planets, also known as "The Federation" is a fictional interplanetary federal republic depicted in the Star Trek television series and motion pictures. In those episodes and films, the Federation is described as an interstellar federal polity with, as of the year 2373, more than 150 member planets and thousands of colonies spread across 8,000 light years of the Milky Way Galaxy, and taking the form of a post-capitalist liberal democracy and constitutional republic.[1] It has also been described as a utopian society. The Federation is described as stressing, at least nominally, the values of universal liberty, equality, justice, peace, and cooperation"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Federation_of_Planets

darkhall67 wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 5:23pm:

... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:52pm: darkhall67 wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:40pm: ... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:18pm: darkhall67 wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:13pm: I also find it funny that you reference Cap'n Picard and the Star Trek universe. Different races living and working side by side (and even interbreeding) for the good of all. yes side by side, not on top of each other.  You don't see the federation inviting the Borg to migrate to earth do you? Curious how the federation is still 99% white, even in the 24th century, dontya think?  Klingons are white now? Do klingons make up a lot of the federation?* *I rarely watch it, so forgive me if "the federation" isn't the right term to use for earth-dwellers. It's the united federation of planets. "The United Federation of Planets, also known as "The Federation" is a fictional interplanetary federal republic depicted in the Star Trek television series and motion pictures. In those episodes and films, the Federation is described as an interstellar federal polity with, as of the year 2373, more than 150 member planets and thousands of colonies spread across 8,000 light years of the Milky Way Galaxy, and taking the form of a post-capitalist liberal democracy and constitutional republic.[1] It has also been described as a utopian society. The Federation is described as stressing, at least nominally, the values of universal liberty, equality, justice, peace, and cooperation" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Federation_of_Planets

And the president of earth is not even human.

SOB

falah wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 5:12pm:

... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:55pm: falah wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:30pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:16am: Well @ any rate I think its a good idea the melting pot. I dont like the segregation we have here. We will eventually evolve into 1 "race". SOB There is no such thing as race. Science has found that the percentage of difference in DNA between European and African is the same percentage that you would find from village to village across Europe. We are the same. Take your disinformational groupthink elsewhere ya clown.  You are obviously not a scientist. Among humans, race has no taxonomic significance; all living humans belong to the same hominid subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens. 'Race' is a social contruct which has no basis in science. Racism exists and is based on ignorant people's misconceptions.

You have an arts degree if I'm not mistaken?  Your arts degree trumps my BSc in the scientific qualification stakes does it?

Mate, I've been thrtough this 1000 times before.  Go to the "multiculturalism and race" board if you want to learn something.


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In the Western Cape Province of South Africa, forensic pathologists examine numerous cases involving skeletal remains each year (Schwar et al. 1987). Most of these cases are the result of unnatural deaths and require forensic investigation. The usual procedure is to analyze the bones to determine the age, race, and sex of the individual)

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/lab/forensic-science-communications/fsc/jan2001/phillips.htm

I wonder how they can forensically detremine a cultural construct?  Any ideas falah?


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BiDil Receives FDA Approval as First Racially Targeted Drug Dr. Theodore Addai chief of cardiology at Nashville General Hospital and Meharry Medical College.  The Food and Drug Administration on June 23 approved BiDil, a drug treatment for cardiovascular disease that specifically targets blacks. In a statement, the FDA says the drug represents "a step toward the promise of personalized medicine."

http://nashville.medicalnewsinc.com/bidil-receives-fda-approval-as-first-racially-targeted-drug-cms-478

Gosh I wonder how this medicine targets a social construct?  Any ideas falah?

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/PG-43---Adult---young-----M.jpg

I can't see any differences between these people.  Can you Falah?


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Among humans, race has no taxonomic significance; all living humans belong to the same hominid subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens

Dogs are all classed as canis familaris.  Is there no such thing as breeds either Falah?

http://dog-photos.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Chihuahua-with-greatdane.jpg

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 12:33pm:

Hahahaha. "I want one race."  "No, hang on, I want diversity." "No wait, I want one race." "I want ... umm ah..." Yoohoo, Annie. Do you see what happens when people debate on instant emotional responses and don't think their position through?

Yes, Roger. Thanks for pointing that out.

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 7:03pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:33pm: Hahahaha. "I want one race."  "No, hang on, I want diversity." "No wait, I want one race." "I want ... umm ah..." Yoohoo, Annie. Do you see what happens when people debate on instant emotional responses and don't think their position through? Yes, Roger. Thanks for pointing that out.

You are joking. As i said several times before i think diversity is fine for the world (each country has its own culture) but not here in the form of segregation. We should have everyone together not segregated. 1 country. I expect those idiots to do this but not you. You have so far demonstrated understanding of concepts whether you agree with them or not.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 7:03pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:33pm: Hahahaha. "I want one race."  "No, hang on, I want diversity." "No wait, I want one race." "I want ... umm ah..." Yoohoo, Annie. Do you see what happens when people debate on instant emotional responses and don't think their position through? Yes, Roger. Thanks for pointing that out. You are joking. As i said several times before i think diversity is fine for the world (each country has its own culture) but not here in the form of segregation. We should have everyone together not segregated. 1 country. I expect those idiots to do this but not you. You have so far demonstrated understanding of concepts whether you agree with them or not. SOB

Spot, I was being sarcastic and it was directed at Morning Mist, not you.

I understand what you're saying. I think Wesley and MM and Soren are assholes for trying to make you feel you don't have a valid point.

You are saying you dont want ethnically or culturally segregated enclaves located in certain locations? You are saying that cultures should be able to mix freely together while still celebrating and sharing the things that make them unique?

If you are, I agree. That's the way it should be. There are reasons it doesn't work, but that would be ideal.

They think they're smarter than you - they're not. They've just had more practice at this.

No, they are. 

They really, really are.

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 7:19pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 7:09pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 7:03pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:33pm: Hahahaha. "I want one race."  "No, hang on, I want diversity." "No wait, I want one race." "I want ... umm ah..." Yoohoo, Annie. Do you see what happens when people debate on instant emotional responses and don't think their position through? Yes, Roger. Thanks for pointing that out. You are joking. As i said several times before i think diversity is fine for the world (each country has its own culture) but not here in the form of segregation. We should have everyone together not segregated. 1 country. I expect those idiots to do this but not you. You have so far demonstrated understanding of concepts whether you agree with them or not. SOB Spot, I was being sarcastic and it was directed at Morning Mist, not you. I understand what you're saying. I think Wesley and MM and Soren are assholes for trying to make you feel you don't have a valid point. You are saying you dont want ethnically or culturally segregated enclaves located in certain locations? You are saying that cultures should be able to mix freely together while still celebrating and sharing the things that make them unique? If you are, I agree. That's the way it should be. There are reasons it doesn't work, but that would be ideal. They think they're smarter than you - they're not. They've just had more practice at this.

Heh okay mate. Sorry. It didnt seem right I should have known it was sarcasm.

Yeah thats basically what Im saying. I know it wont happen though.

SOB

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

Quote: In the Western Cape Province of South Africa, forensic pathologists examine numerous cases involving skeletal remains each year (Schwar et al. 1987). Most of these cases are the result of unnatural deaths and require forensic investigation. The usual procedure is to analyze the bones to determine the age, race, and sex of the individual) http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/lab/forensic-science-communications/fsc/jan2001/phillips.htm I wonder how they can forensically detremine a cultural construct?  Any ideas falah? [quote]BiDil Receives FDA Approval as First Racially Targeted Drug Dr. Theodore Addai chief of cardiology at Nashville General Hospital and Meharry Medical College.  The Food and Drug Administration on June 23 approved BiDil, a drug treatment for cardiovascular disease that specifically targets blacks. In a statement, the FDA says the drug represents "a step toward the promise of personalized medicine."

http://nashville.medicalnewsinc.com/bidil-receives-fda-approval-as-first-racially-targeted-drug-cms-478

Gosh I wonder how this medicine targets a social construct?  Any ideas falah?

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/PG-43---Adult---young-----M.jpg

I can't see any differences between these people.  Can you Falah?[/quote]

Differences between races are skin-deep. If scientists can use DNA to determine the "race" of a particular person, it's most likely associated with superficial features like skin or hair colour or the shape of limbs. Other than these aspects of humans, there doesn't seem to be anything else that distinguishes different races according to this article:

http://newsreel.org/guides/race/pressreleasecredit.htm

i own a book that actually debunks every 'point' made  in that pbs documentary

JC Denton wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 5:15am:

i own a book that actually debunks every 'point' made  in that pbs documentary

Well? Whats the book?

SOB

... wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

No, they are.  They really, really are.

Toxic levels of arrogance does not mean smart, Wes.

Really, really.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 5:15am: i own a book that actually debunks every 'point' made  in that pbs documentary Well? Whats the book? SOB

race: the reality of human differences

by vincent sarich and frank miele

i own many many books about this subject

don't assume you know more than me

'race denial' arguments are in themselves mostly extremely boring b/c so many of them are nothing more than word games

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 8:35am:

... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 7:28pm: No, they are.  They really, really are. Toxic levels of arrogance does not mean smart, Wes. Really, really.

Don't act like you don't know. 

You're smarter than that, even if you do your best to hide it. 

Mnemonic wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:03am:

... wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 5:34pm: Quote: In the Western Cape Province of South Africa, forensic pathologists examine numerous cases involving skeletal remains each year (Schwar et al. 1987). Most of these cases are the result of unnatural deaths and require forensic investigation. The usual procedure is to analyze the bones to determine the age, race, and sex of the individual) http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/lab/forensic-science-communications/fsc/jan2001/phillips.htm I wonder how they can forensically detremine a cultural construct?  Any ideas falah? [quote]BiDil Receives FDA Approval as First Racially Targeted Drug Dr. Theodore Addai chief of cardiology at Nashville General Hospital and Meharry Medical College.  The Food and Drug Administration on June 23 approved BiDil, a drug treatment for cardiovascular disease that specifically targets blacks. In a statement, the FDA says the drug represents "a step toward the promise of personalized medicine." http://nashville.medicalnewsinc.com/bidil-receives-fda-approval-as-first-racially-targeted-drug-cms-478 Gosh I wonder how this medicine targets a social construct?  Any ideas falah? http://www.beautyanalysis.com/images/PG-43---Adult---young-----M.jpg I can't see any differences between these people.  Can you Falah?

Differences between races are skin-deep. If scientists can use DNA to determine the "race" of a particular person, it's most likely associated with superficial features like skin or hair colour or the shape of limbs. Other than these aspects of humans, there doesn't seem to be anything else that distinguishes different races according to this article:

http://newsreel.org/guides/race/pressreleasecredit.htm[/quote]


Oh, I can post links too.

http://www.racialcompact.com/Race_%20Realityand%20Denial.html

Of all the idiocy liberals are guilty of, race denial has to be the stupidest. 

But reading might be a bit advanced for a race-denier.  Here - watch a short video instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZurClqPGLc

Well one day we wont have to worry about it maybe.

SOB

We are all just small variations of the same race that came out of Africa in the dim dark distant past so this carry on about different facial features, skin colours, cultures, religions etc is just another excuse to bury our fear of change.
This unreasonable fear is easily exploited by hard line ultra conservatives on their grab for power and control as history has proved time and time again.

JC Denton wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 8:31am: JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 5:15am: i own a book that actually debunks every 'point' made  in that pbs documentary Well? Whats the book? SOB race: the reality of human differences by vincent sarich and frank miele i own many many books about this subject don't assume you know more than me 'race denial' arguments are in themselves mostly extremely boring b/c so many of them are nothing more than word games

I asked you what the book was I didnt say anything else. Why are you so hostile? I thought I might read it.

I never assume i know more than anyone else unless its on a topic i know a lot about.

SOB

^^ hates white people

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:19am:

JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 8:56am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 8:31am: JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 5:15am: i own a book that actually debunks every 'point' made  in that pbs documentary Well? Whats the book? SOB race: the reality of human differences by vincent sarich and frank miele i own many many books about this subject don't assume you know more than me 'race denial' arguments are in themselves mostly extremely boring b/c so many of them are nothing more than word games I asked you what the book was I didnt say anything else. Why are you so hostile? I thought I might read it. SOB

fair enough if i was a d1ck, sorry bro. though honestly i wouldn't bother reading that book.

there's way more informative stuff you can read like anything by l.l cavalli sforza - though you have to be careful with his tricky usage of terminology sometimes lol

JC Denton wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

^^ hates white people

what?

SOB

Run, Spot, run.

Listen to Adel - he said it best. We are all the same, we are all equal, none of it matters.

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:25am:

Run, Spot, run. Listen to Adel - he said it best. We are all the same, we are all equal, none of it matters.

i think its pretty obvious adels standards and rhetoric in that post hardly match anything he says anywhere else when it comes to white people and non-whites though

hes just an upholder of the double standard

i think youre sincere when you say these things, but adel most certainly isnt

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:23am:

JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:20am: ^^ hates white people what? SOB

^^ = two posts above

Well. We arent as different as the dogs. Not felines. Only skin color and sometimes some other minor features are different.

SOB

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:25am:

We are all the same, we are all equal, none of it matters.

2 outright lies and 1 valid opinion.  It's a start.

... wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:25am: We are all the same, we are all equal, none of it matters. 2 outright lies and 1 valid opinion.  It's a start.

We are all human and we should all be equal. Are you really going to argue with that?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:56am:

... wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:53am: Annie Anthrax wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:25am: We are all the same, we are all equal, none of it matters. 2 outright lies and 1 valid opinion.  It's a start. We are all human and we should all be equal. Are you really going to argue with that? SOB

1 truth and 1 valid opinion.  Well done.

... wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:25am: We are all the same, we are all equal, none of it matters. 2 outright lies and 1 valid opinion.  It's a start.

Shhh.

I'm just trying to help.

geeez.

... wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:56am: ... wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:53am: Annie Anthrax wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:25am: We are all the same, we are all equal, none of it matters. 2 outright lies and 1 valid opinion.  It's a start. We are all human and we should all be equal. Are you really going to argue with that? SOB 1 truth and 1 valid opinion.  Well done.

you are so smart. Wow i bet everyone wishes they were as smart as you.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

... wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:57am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:56am: ... wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:53am: Annie Anthrax wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 9:25am: We are all the same, we are all equal, none of it matters. 2 outright lies and 1 valid opinion.  It's a start. We are all human and we should all be equal. Are you really going to argue with that? SOB 1 truth and 1 valid opinion.  Well done. you are so smart. Wow i bet everyone wishes they were as smart as you. SOB

Not everyone - just ~97% of people.

*smirk*

heres wat i think

1) we are most certainly and unequivocally not, all equal (defined of course in terms of being psychologically equivalent, or psychologically equivalent after environmental influences have been perfectly controlled and equalised between individiauls). this is beyond dispute at this point in time. whether we all warrant equal rights of course is another matter
2) whether we are all 'equal' in all, or specific and socially significant capacities across human populations (rather than within them) is a question that is still ongoing and one that deserves immediate resolution rather than obfuscation and name calling. this is not an easy question at all and the evidence on the whole for either side is equivocal in some aspects, more concrete and certain in others
3) a lot of people who spout anti-racist and equalitarian, supposedly universal rhetoric have clandestine, sinister motivations, often hate white people and potentially want to see them destroyed (see Wise, Tim ' a letter to white america')
4) desiring the preservation of a people defined by genetic boundaries can but necessarily need not stem from 'supremacist' motivations, is likewise in my view a legitimate if not iconoclastic stance and intersects with philosophical, ethical, and empirical questions, some permeable to examination and investigation, some not.

no responses to any responses made to any of this will be made.

JC Denton wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 10:37am:

heres wat i think 1) we are most certainly and unequivocally not, all equal. this is beyond dispute at this point in time. whether we all warrant equal rights of course is another matter 2) whether we are all 'equal' in all, or specific and socially significant capacities across human populations (rather than within them) is a question that is still ongoing and one that deserves immediate resolution rather than obfuscation and name calling. this is not an easy question at all and the evidence on the whole for either side is equivocal in some aspects, more concrete and certain in others 3) a lot of people who spout anti-racist and equalitarian, supposedly universal rhetoric have clandestine, sinister motivations, often hate white people and potentially want to see them destroyed (see Wise, Tim ' a letter to white america') 4) desiring the preservation of a people defined by genetic boundaries sense can but necessarily need not stem from 'supremacist' motivations, is likewise in my view a legitimate if not iconoclasticstance and intersects with philosophical, ethical, and empirical questions, some permeable to examination and investigation, some not. no responses to any responses made to any of this will be made.

What exactly is an inequality if we are all equally human?

Chook

SOB

Some of us are God's chosen people...

:)

I am joking. I do not think this.

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

Some of us are God's chosen people... :)

I agree. The English are clearly, God's chosen people.

:)

JC Denton wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 10:45am: Some of us are God's chosen people... :) I agree. The English are clearly, God's chosen people. :)

Well @ least white english speakers

http://www.harvardichthus.org/fishtank/2012/04/whats-wrong-with-white-jesus/

http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~ichthus/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/jesus71.jpg

SOB

I'm sorry, I should have known that my usage of a word, which nearly everybody would have taken as read to describe an ethnic population, would have been redfined in a slippery manner by somebody such as yourself. I will be more specific in future to prevent this from happening.

no responses to any responses made to any of this will be made.

The chook was a lighthearted response to that and my post was a response to avram.

What word? equality? Hmmm . . . .

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

no responses to any responses made to any of this will be made. The chook was a lighthearted response to that and my post was a response to avram. SOB

;)

Nobody is quicker with the edits than me. All has been resolved.

JC Denton wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 10:45am: Some of us are God's chosen people... :) I agree. The English are clearly, God's chosen people. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a0yDfCGtRs

Ethiopian Jews
http://thekexperience.okeiweb.com/images/stories/Image/pictures/ethiopian_jew1.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nxTHk1BGwN4/TNt6OD_mmSI/AAAAAAAAAA4/x5AjLhg78XM/s1600/Ethiopian-Jews.jpg

Falah - we have 1.5m Arab Israelis.

Arab countries will not allow me in to the country on my Israel passport.
I must use my USA one if I wish to enter.

So tell me - who are the racists?

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 11:36am:

JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 10:52am: Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 10:45am: Some of us are God's chosen people... :) I agree. The English are clearly, God's chosen people. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a0yDfCGtRs Ethiopian Jews http://thekexperience.okeiweb.com/images/stories/Image/pictures/ethiopian_jew1.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nxTHk1BGwN4/TNt6OD_mmSI/AAAAAAAAAA4/x5AjLhg78XM/s1600/Ethiopian-Jews.jpg

relevance?

JC Denton wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 11:43am:

relevance?

It is idiocy to assume God's "chosen" are white considering that many of the main prophet's were coloured folk.

Abraham was an Asian.

Moses was an African.

Jesus was a Palestinian.

Muhammed an Arab.

Not an Englishman amongst them.

We are mostly white people and we belong in Jersualem and Tel Aviv.
But we are a melting pot country.

You see we allow Arabs to be part of our country.

The racist Arabs do not even allow us people in to their.

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:32pm:

We are mostly white people and we belong in Jersualem and Tel Aviv. But we are a melting pot country. You see we allow Arabs to be part of our country. The racist Arabs do not even allow us people in to their.

when are you going to answer my question inthe israel/palestiains thread?

SOB

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:32pm:

We are mostly white people and we belong in Jersualem and Tel Aviv. Quote: You are white because you came from Europe you AshkeNAZI Jews. You should have stayed in Europe instead of thinking you would get away with invading Palestinian lands and dispossessing Palestinian people. Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 12:32pm: You see we allow Arabs to be part of our country. After forcing 90% of them to flee their lands from Jewish terrorism or live in ghettoes. Avram Horowitz wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 12:32pm: The racist Arabs do not even allow us people in to their. Rubbish! Jews lived in Arab lands for centuries. It was Arabs that allowed Jews to live in Jerusalem after centuries of exile by the Romans/Byzantines. Jews lived in security in Arab lands while they were persecuted by European Christians. [quote]"Because We Are Jews" by Rabbi Mordechi Weberman ...We have no doubt that would Jewish refugees, have come to Palestine not with the intention of dominating: Not with the intention of making a Jewish state Not with the intention of dispossessing Not with the intention of depriving the Palestinians of their basic rights That they would have been welcomed by the Palestinians, with the same hospitality that Islamic peoples have shown Jews throughout history. And we would have lived together as Jews and Muslims lived before in Palestine in peace and harmony. To our Islamic and Palestinian friends around the world, please hear our message — There are Jews around the world who support your cause... http://thewe.cc/weplanet/news/middle_east/palestine/because_we_are_jews.htm

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:30pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 11:43am: It is idiocy to assume God's "chosen" are white considering that many of the main prophet's were coloured folk. Abraham was an Asian. Moses was an African. Jesus was a Palestinian. Muhammed an Arab. Not an Englishman amongst them. uh huh one day you will understand when people are making tongue in cheek posts Australian Politics Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.5.2! YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2026. All Rights Reserved.