A Song For Righties To Join In With


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FXIRoE1h2I

what a silly old tart he is...they should put him down gently he looks and sounds pathetic..sad but true... so we ever see ex Pm.. Presidents of other nations looking as stupid as this?

cods wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 9:26am:

what a silly old tart he is...they should put him down gently he looks and sounds pathetic..sad but true... so we ever see ex Pm.. Presidents of other nations looking as stupid as this?

Hey cods ... that tune is going to play in your head ... and you will find yourself singing it all day.


Solidarity forever ...

cods wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 9:26am:

what a silly old tart he is...they should put him down gently he looks and sounds pathetic..sad but true... so we ever see ex Pm.. Presidents of other nations looking as stupid as this?

cods calling for the death of of an old person,but its OK he's a Labor dude. ::)

Sell out scum b@stard.

skippy. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

cods wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:26am: what a silly old tart he is...they should put him down gently he looks and sounds pathetic..sad but true... so we ever see ex Pm.. Presidents of other nations looking as stupid as this? cods calling for the death of of an old person,but its OK he's a Labor dude. ::)

A Liberal support Non Voluntary Euthanasia ... while opposing Greens Voluntary Euthanasia.

And they still don't understand why so many think these right wingers are hypocrites.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Sell out scum b@stard.

;D ;D ;D andrei loves Bob.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Sell out scum b@stard.

Recommend you don't look into the mirror while typing Hicks.

Besides we all know you sold out on Australia.

skippy. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

cods wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:26am: what a silly old tart he is...they should put him down gently he looks and sounds pathetic..sad but true... so we ever see ex Pm.. Presidents of other nations looking as stupid as this? cods calling for the death of of an old person,but its OK he's a Labor dude. ::)

Ka BOOM!

I didnt like his politics but the old fella isnt too bad as a person. He fought pretty hard for unions back in the 70s but then he fought against them later. Bit like that midnight oil fellow really. Hawkie has character though.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:00am:

I didnt like his politics but the old fella isnt too bad as a person. He fought pretty hard for unions back in the 70s but then he fought against them later. Bit like that midnight oil fellow really. Hawkie has character though. SOB

Oh yeah he is a real stand-up character who looked after the Unions when he became PM.

My father and his colleagues were seeking to have their pay brought into line with their international colleagues and a fair pay rise.

What happened?
Hawke (the worker's man supposedly) sold them out and left them high and dry.

My old man lost his entire superannuation as a result and we upped sticks and had to move to Hong Kong for him to get a new role with a non-Aussie company.

Fking disgraceful episode which showed Hawke up to be the sell-out pr*ck he is.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:13pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:00am: I didnt like his politics but the old fella isnt too bad as a person. He fought pretty hard for unions back in the 70s but then he fought against them later. Bit like that midnight oil fellow really. Hawkie has character though. SOB Oh yeah he is a real stand-up character who looked after the Unions when he became PM. My father and his colleagues were seeking to have their pay brought into line with their international colleagues and a fair pay rise. What happened? Hawke (the worker's man supposedly) sold them out and left them high and dry. My old man lost his entire superannuation as a result and we upped sticks and had to move to Hong Kong for him to get a new role with a non-Aussie company. Fking disgraceful episode which showed Hawke up to be the sell-out pr*ck he is.

Yeah I know. I said that in fact. I was being kinda sarcastic about the character - as in beer swilling aussie.

SOB

Yes, the disruption to my family for which this PM is directly responsible is something that will sit with us for a long time.

lol what a tool and see all the comrads stand up and start singing. Looks worse that north korea.

progressiveslol wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

lol what a tool and see all the comrads stand up and start singing. Looks worse that north korea.

Bob Hawke.
It's one of the very very few times in my life I have heard my father drop the C-bomb when referring to someone.

He usually hardly swears.

progressiveslol wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

lol what a tool and see all the comrads stand up and start singing. Looks worse that north korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-1cY68ek8

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 1:17pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:10pm: lol what a tool and see all the comrads stand up and start singing. Looks worse that north korea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-1cY68ek8

You comrads are hopeless singers. Almost want to stab my ears.

Nice dictatorial lyrics.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:49pm:

Yes, the disruption to my family for which this PM is directly responsible is something that will sit with us for a long time.

Whilst I am sorry that your family suffered financial issues, the Australian economy and people suffered far more than that.  That pilot strike - in search of a 29% pay rise crippled Australia and cost more than the Vietnam War!   People around the country lost their jobs all because a bunch of greedy, elitist ar*eholes felt they were so important  they couldn't be done without.

Well they were done without!    And in a final huff, they refused to attend meetings to try and resolve the dispute then the pilots resiegned, only to be replaced with ones from overseas.

The good thing here is when they finally came to their senses, the airlines refused to take them back - so yes - many had to leave and go overseas.

Hawke compared them I think - with Pakistani bus drivers and called their bluff

I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.  They basically caused their own demise through greed and self importance.   

skippy. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

cods wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:26am: what a silly old tart he is...they should put him down gently he looks and sounds pathetic..sad but true... so we ever see ex Pm.. Presidents of other nations looking as stupid as this? cods calling for the death of of an old person,but its OK he's a Labor dude. ::)

where did I ,say DEAD>>>>>unlike yourself... when you wish for ALL OLD PEOPLE TO DIE>>


PUT DOWN>>>>>ever heard of a PUT DOWN>

progressiveslol wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:17pm: progressiveslol wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:10pm: lol what a tool and see all the comrads stand up and start singing. Looks worse that north korea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-1cY68ek8 You comrads are hopeless singers. Almost want to stab my ears. Nice dictatorial lyrics.

it did!


IT DID!


IT DID  have a look of Kim Jong 111..

I couldnt put my finger on it thanks prog.

Its a bloody awful cringe worthy song and the union movement should have ditched it years ago.

lisa.greek wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 3:21pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 12:49pm: Yes, the disruption to my family for which this PM is directly responsible is something that will sit with us for a long time. Whilst I am sorry that your family suffered financial issues, the Australian economy and people suffered far more than that.  That pilot strike - in search of a 29% pay rise crippled Australia and cost more than the Vietnam War!   People around the country lost their jobs all because a bunch of greedy, elitist ar*eholes felt they were so important  they couldn't be done without. Well they were done without!    And in a final huff, they refused to attend meetings to try and resolve the dispute then the pilots resiegned, only to be replaced with ones from overseas. The good thing here is when they finally came to their senses, the airlines refused to take them back - so yes - many had to leave and go overseas. Hawke compared them I think - with Pakistani bus drivers and called their bluff I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.  They basically caused their own demise through greed and self importance.

That's one view of it, which is not an uninformed one in comparison to most views on it I have read on here but it is very different to the recollections of my father and his colleagues.

The 29% figure is bandied about, the crux of the demand though was for the upgrade to occur over a set period of time and in stages.
The basis behind this was that he and his colleagues had the same qualifications as those working for Air France, Lufthansa, BA, Cathay etc but being paid a 80% set amount in comparison.
The benefits also offered to those pilots was almost 3 times what were on offer to my father and his colleagues.

The demands they made were not unreasonable, they had seen their wages suppressed for a consistent period of 3-5 years and all they were simply asking was to be brought to a semblance of parity with their industry.

My father was one of the guys at the forefront of this being a guy of 25+ years industry experience and attended several of the meetings with Hawke's men.
He said their attitude immediately from day 1 was one of confrontation.
I have no doubt this is the 100% truth but one of the Government negotiators actually started off with "I don't know who you blokes think you are, just because you can fly a plane you think you can have this Government over a barrel and to hell with the Australian workers...". The fact my old man recalls it word for word, suggests that's exactly what was said.

They never seriously considered the negotiating point of the Pilot Union.
They deliberately put the pilots into a shocking position of needing to stump up their own super to keep the action going and in the end my father had to resign to face bankrupcy.

What I find more a disgrace is that Cathay offered him a role paying him what he wanted - but he had to leave Australia to get it.

His friends ended up with Aer Lingus, Lufthansa, British Midland to name but a few.

So Hawke (and Australia) stood firm and in the process we the country lost hundreds of top class employees and skilled workers.

It was a dispute that remains a disgraceful sell-out and which Hawke will not live down.

The fact he would call guys who can operate the most difficult machines in the world, are always studying, are in charge of the safety of hundreds of people everyday as "glorified bus drivers" shows his ignorance.
My father once landed a fully loaded 737 into Alice Springs with one engine completely out and the other showing 50% fault capacity with a high cross wind. I would like to see your bus driver do that.

Hawke? I wouldn't give you a bucket of p*ss for him.

cods wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 3:56pm:

skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:07am: cods wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:26am: what a silly old tart he is...they should put him down gently he looks and sounds pathetic..sad but true... so we ever see ex Pm.. Presidents of other nations looking as stupid as this? cods calling for the death of of an old person,but its OK he's a Labor dude. ::) where did I ,say DEAD>>>>>unlike yourself... when you wish for ALL OLD PEOPLE TO DIE>> PUT DOWN>>>>>ever heard of a PUT DOWN>

LOL When I DONT say it I mean it, but when you SAY it ,its a put down. No wonder SOME people think you're a silly old sausage codsy. ;D

I'd pay good money never to hear Hawkey sing again.

adelcrow wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 4:20pm:

I'd pay good money never to hear Hawkey sing again.

It would have had more cred had he done a duet with PJ Keating. :-?

skippy. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 4:26pm:

adelcrow wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 4:20pm: I'd pay good money never to hear Hawkey sing again. It would have had more cred had he done a duet with PJ Keating. :-?

How about someone from the musicians union?

Perhaps they could rope A.D into a song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgvNQPPf2TY

Thanks for that Green..no dinner for me tonight  :o

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:13pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:00am: I didnt like his politics but the old fella isnt too bad as a person. He fought pretty hard for unions back in the 70s but then he fought against them later. Bit like that midnight oil fellow really. Hawkie has character though. SOB Oh yeah he is a real stand-up character who looked after the Unions when he became PM. My father and his colleagues were seeking to have their pay brought into line with their international colleagues and a fair pay rise. What happened? Hawke (the worker's man supposedly) sold them out and left them high and dry. My old man lost his entire superannuation as a result and we upped sticks and had to move to Hong Kong for him to get a new role with a non-Aussie company. Fking disgraceful episode which showed Hawke up to be the sell-out pr*ck he is.

You are going to have to provide a bit more context Andrei. Was your old man a pilot?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 4:09pm:

lisa.greek wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 3:21pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 12:49pm: Yes, the disruption to my family for which this PM is directly responsible is something that will sit with us for a long time. Whilst I am sorry that your family suffered financial issues, the Australian economy and people suffered far more than that.  That pilot strike - in search of a 29% pay rise crippled Australia and cost more than the Vietnam War!   People around the country lost their jobs all because a bunch of greedy, elitist ar*eholes felt they were so important  they couldn't be done without. Well they were done without!    And in a final huff, they refused to attend meetings to try and resolve the dispute then the pilots resiegned, only to be replaced with ones from overseas. The good thing here is when they finally came to their senses, the airlines refused to take them back - so yes - many had to leave and go overseas. Hawke compared them I think - with Pakistani bus drivers and called their bluff I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.  They basically caused their own demise through greed and self importance.    That's one view of it, which is not an uninformed one in comparison to most views on it I have read on here but it is very different to the recollections of my father and his colleagues. The 29% figure is bandied about, the crux of the demand though was for the upgrade to occur over a set period of time and in stages. The basis behind this was that he and his colleagues had the same qualifications as those working for Air France, Lufthansa, BA, Cathay etc but being paid a 80% set amount in comparison. The benefits also offered to those pilots was almost 3 times what were on offer to my father and his colleagues. The demands they made were not unreasonable, they had seen their wages suppressed for a consistent period of 3-5 years and all they were simply asking was to be brought to a semblance of parity with their industry. My father was one of the guys at the forefront of this being a guy of 25+ years industry experience and attended several of the meetings with Hawke's men. He said their attitude immediately from day 1 was one of confrontation. I have no doubt this is the 100% truth but one of the Government negotiators actually started off with "I don't know who you blokes think you are, just because you can fly a plane you think you can have this Government over a barrel and to hell with the Australian workers...". The fact my old man recalls it word for word, suggests that's exactly what was said. They never seriously considered the negotiating point of the Pilot Union. They deliberately put the pilots into a shocking position of needing to stump up their own super to keep the action going and in the end my father had to resign to face bankrupcy. What I find more a disgrace is that Cathay offered him a role paying him what he wanted - but he had to leave Australia to get it. His friends ended up with Aer Lingus, Lufthansa, British Midland to name but a few. So Hawke (and Australia) stood firm and in the process we the country lost hundreds of top class employees and skilled workers. It was a dispute that remains a disgraceful sell-out and which Hawke will not live down. The fact he would call guys who can operate the most difficult machines in the world, are always studying, are in charge of the safety of hundreds of people everyday as "glorified bus drivers" shows his ignorance. My father once landed a fully loaded 737 into Alice Springs with one engine completely out and the other showing 50% fault capacity with a high cross wind. I would like to see your bus driver do that. Hawke? I wouldn't give you a bucket of p*ss for him.

Hawke has just stepped up in my estimation. I'll have to buy the old b@stard a beer!  :D :D :D

Leave poor old Bob alone -
do any of you lot reckon you could sing any better?

Bobby. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:

Leave poor old Bob alone - do any of you lot reckon you could sing any better?

Prolly. Lets have a contest!

SOB

A traditional Ultra Conservative sing along  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpeiiuiPBd8