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Message started by Greens_Win on May 17th, 2012 at 8:53am

Title: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Greens_Win on May 17th, 2012 at 8:53am
Pyne sent aide email after drinks


http://images.smh.com.au/file/2012/05/17/3301877/pyneemail.pdf?rand=1337180462313

THE opposition powerbroker Christopher Pyne made direct email contact with the Peter Slipper aide James Ashby within minutes of leaving late-night drinks in the Speaker's office earlier this year.

PDF: the email
The revelation contradicts the impression Mr Pyne has given about his dealings with Mr Ashby, whose legal action against Mr Slipper for alleged sexual harassment has undermined Julia Gillard's already fragile majority.

Mr Pyne told the Herald earlier this month that he had ''no reason'' to contact Mr Ashby after the meeting, and has been widely quoted as saying that ''I did not email Mr Ashby after March 19''.

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The Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott, said on May 4 that ''there was no contact whatsoever after that drink, apparently, in Peter Slipper's office''.

But the Herald can reveal that Mr Pyne sent a cryptic email to Mr Ashby late on the night of March 19.

''You see, only aph [Australian Parliament House] address,'' Mr Pyne wrote to Mr Ashby at 11.03pm.

Half an hour later, Mr Ashby replied: ''Good having a beer tonight :)''

The Herald revealed two weeks ago that on the night of March 19, Mr Pyne spent almost two hours drinking and chatting with Mr Ashby and another Slipper aide in the Speaker's office.

Mr Pyne initially told the Herald: ''I don't remember ever having asked for Mr Ashby's number,'' before altering his statement to say he could ''not remember''.

Mr Pyne altered his recollection when the existence of an email he sent asking for Mr Ashby's email address - and a subsequent text message - was revealed by Fairfax Media.

''I don't remember asking for those, but by the same token I could well have,'' he said the following day.

Speaking on ABC radio last week, Mr Pyne refused on seven occasions to clarify his contact with Mr Ashby. But he maintained he had ''never had any contact of any nature with James Ashby in relation to the Federal Court action'' Mr Ashby has taken against Mr Slipper.

The latest email will add further fuel to claims made by Labor that Mr Pyne and others in the Coalition had prior knowledge of Mr Ashby's sexual harassment claim lodged against Mr Slipper, which has forced Mr Slipper to stand aside as Speaker.

Claims of Coalition involvement escalated when the Herald subsequently revealed that the former Howard government minister and Slipper rival, Mal Brough, met Mr Ashby on the Sunshine Coast while the aide was still in the Speaker's employment.

Mr Brough revealed he urged Mr Ashby to seek legal advice over his claims of sexual harassment and travel fraud.

The evidence of Mr Pyne's email to the Slipper aide comes as Mr Ashby confirmed he would not proceed with allegations about misuse of Cabcharge vouchers by his boss, Mr Slipper, to avoid any delay in the court's consideration of his civil claim of sexual harassment and discrimination.

Mr Pyne's office refused to comment last night. He is the member for Sturt.


http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/pyne-sent-aide-email-after-drinks-20120516-1yre6.html

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by skippy. on May 17th, 2012 at 8:58am
Yep, just read this on Latika Burkes twitter. This proves Pyne lied.
Why did he lie? her could only have done so because he had something to hide,as does phony Tony.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Doctor Jolly on May 17th, 2012 at 9:08am
They are all lying bastards.  What did you expect. One side honest, and one not ?

Give me a break.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Greens_Win on May 17th, 2012 at 9:10am
Pyne has had a whole night to think up a spin so to cover all his contradictions and flip flops ... why has he all of a sudden gone camera shy?

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by cods on May 17th, 2012 at 9:29am
SO WHAT???? IS IT AS BAD AS

i HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG....

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...


god lets hope you can come up with better than this before the election..

we enjoy rubbing your noses in the lies from the left...

but its wearing a bit thin..

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Greens_Win on May 17th, 2012 at 9:32am

cods wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:29am:
SO WHAT???? IS IT AS BAD AS

i HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG....

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...


god lets hope you can come up with better than this before the election..

we enjoy rubbing your noses in the lies from the left...

but its wearing a bit thin..




Hypocrite Cods ... Your side Lies and you say so what.

Your side lies in an attempt to overthrow a democratically elected government.

That is Treason isn't it?

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by progressiveslol on May 17th, 2012 at 9:34am
Wow that pdf is such a revelation lol

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Greens_Win on May 17th, 2012 at 9:36am

progressiveslol wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:34am:
Wow that pdf is such a revelation lol




It is.

That is why Pyne has gone into hiding while the Libs think up a story to cover all their arses ... including Abbott.



Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Verge on May 17th, 2012 at 9:48am
No contact after march 19.

This was true.  He made contact on March 19.

Devil in the detail.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Greens_Win on May 17th, 2012 at 10:14am

Verge wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:48am:
No contact after march 19.

This was true.  He made contact on March 19.

Devil in the detail.




Why didn't Pyne say that last night when questioned.


Is it because it still contradicts what the right have said before.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Righty27 on May 17th, 2012 at 10:46am
I read the article, and nowhere do I see any lie. Try again, loser lefties!

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Greens_Win on May 17th, 2012 at 10:54am

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:46am:
I read the article, and nowhere do I see any lie. Try again, loser lefties!




Mr Pyne says he didn't call or email Mr Ashby.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/pyne-says-he-didnt-phone-ashby-20120502-1xy1l.html



Check Mate Dude

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Righty27 on May 17th, 2012 at 10:59am

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:54am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:46am:
I read the article, and nowhere do I see any lie. Try again, loser lefties!




Mr Pyne says he didn't call or email Mr Ashby.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/pyne-says-he-didnt-phone-ashby-20120502-1xy1l.html



Check Mate Dude


"I have never had any discussions with James Ashby about these Federal Court matters," Mr Pyne told ABC radio in Adelaide on Wednesday.

By the way, I am not a dude.


Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Dnarever on May 17th, 2012 at 11:40am

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:59am:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:54am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:46am:
I read the article, and nowhere do I see any lie. Try again, loser lefties!



Mr Pyne says he didn't call or email Mr Ashby.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/pyne-says-he-didnt-phone-ashby-20120502-1xy1l.html



Check Mate Dude


"I have never had any discussions with James Ashby about these Federal Court matters," Mr Pyne told ABC radio in Adelaide on Wednesday.

By the way, I am not a dude.


If his impropper meetings and communications were not of an obvious professional nature are you infering that he contact with a known homosexual were with the view of a  sexual dalliance perhapse.

Really what other reasons would a Liberal minister have for conducting an impropper relationship with a staff member of the speaker of the house.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Righty27 on May 17th, 2012 at 12:01pm

Dnarever wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:40am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:59am:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:54am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:46am:
I read the article, and nowhere do I see any lie. Try again, loser lefties!



Mr Pyne says he didn't call or email Mr Ashby.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/pyne-says-he-didnt-phone-ashby-20120502-1xy1l.html



Check Mate Dude


"I have never had any discussions with James Ashby about these Federal Court matters," Mr Pyne told ABC radio in Adelaide on Wednesday.

By the way, I am not a dude.


If his impropper meetings and communications were not of an obvious professional nature are you infering that he contact with a known homosexual were with the view of a  sexual dalliance perhapse.

Really what other reasons would a Liberal minister have for conducting an impropper relationship with a staff member of the speaker of the house.


Very classy of you, to imply that Pyne is a closeted gay, and after some action.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by skippy. on May 17th, 2012 at 12:07pm

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 12:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:40am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:59am:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:54am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:46am:
I read the article, and nowhere do I see any lie. Try again, loser lefties!



Mr Pyne says he didn't call or email Mr Ashby.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/pyne-says-he-didnt-phone-ashby-20120502-1xy1l.html



Check Mate Dude


"I have never had any discussions with James Ashby about these Federal Court matters," Mr Pyne told ABC radio in Adelaide on Wednesday.

By the way, I am not a dude.


If his impropper meetings and communications were not of an obvious professional nature are you infering that he contact with a known homosexual were with the view of a  sexual dalliance perhapse.

Really what other reasons would a Liberal minister have for conducting an impropper relationship with a staff member of the speaker of the house.


Very classy of you, to imply that Pyne is a closeted gay, and after some action.

I didn't think he hid it. :-?

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Verge on May 17th, 2012 at 12:09pm

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:14am:

Verge wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:48am:
No contact after march 19.

This was true.  He made contact on March 19.

Devil in the detail.




Why didn't Pyne say that last night when questioned.


Is it because it still contradicts what the right have said before.


''I did not email Mr Ashby after March 19''.

This still stands as correct.  He emails Ashby on March 19.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Dnarever on May 17th, 2012 at 12:16pm

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 12:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:40am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:59am:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:54am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:46am:
I read the article, and nowhere do I see any lie. Try again, loser lefties!



Mr Pyne says he didn't call or email Mr Ashby.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/pyne-says-he-didnt-phone-ashby-20120502-1xy1l.html



Check Mate Dude


"I have never had any discussions with James Ashby about these Federal Court matters," Mr Pyne told ABC radio in Adelaide on Wednesday.

By the way, I am not a dude.


If his impropper meetings and communications were not of an obvious professional nature are you infering that he contact with a known homosexual were with the view of a  sexual dalliance perhapse.

Really what other reasons would a Liberal minister have for conducting an impropper relationship with a staff member of the speaker of the house.


Very classy of you, to imply that Pyne is a closeted gay, and after some action.



I am not implying anything - The people who think that this relationship is not about undermining the speaker seem to be infering the actual relationship entails a different dimention.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by adelcrow on May 17th, 2012 at 4:01pm
Its obvious that Fifi Pyne and Ashby are having it off and in a post coitus cuddle they both conspired to bring down Slipper.
Why all these lies if its all above board?
My question is..who gets the wet spot?

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by cods on May 17th, 2012 at 4:07pm

Verge wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 12:09pm:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:14am:

Verge wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:48am:
No contact after march 19.

This was true.  He made contact on March 19.

Devil in the detail.




Why didn't Pyne say that last night when questioned.


Is it because it still contradicts what the right have said before.


''I did not email Mr Ashby after March 19''.

This still stands as correct.  He emails Ashby on March 19.




hear hear[size=8][/size]


isnt this the most bizarre thread ever??


oooooooo girls listen a righty told a fib...wait a minute almost told a fibby..........no more than that...an untruth sort of ... oh girls..never mind.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by adelcrow on May 17th, 2012 at 4:18pm
The conservatives will never vote for a pollie that lies..so any govt with Abbott and Pyne in it is now out of the question.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Greens_Win on May 17th, 2012 at 10:40pm
Does anyone else get the impression that Ashby's move today is an attempt to shift the focus off Pyne's lies?

http://www.cobarage.com.au/news/national/national/general/pyne-emailed-slippers-accuser/2559308.aspx?storypage=0


Why hasn't Pyne made some sort of comment ... he seems to have gone into hiding.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by nairbe on May 18th, 2012 at 6:39am

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:40pm:
Does anyone else get the impression that Ashby's move today is an attempt to shift the focus off Pyne's lies?

http://www.cobarage.com.au/news/national/national/general/pyne-emailed-slippers-accuser/2559308.aspx?storypage=0


Why hasn't Pyne made some sort of comment ... he seems to have gone into hiding.


The whole affair is beginning to take on a foul stench. The looser here is Ashby, he has allowed himself to be used and now he will really be abused. He will also find that the country is a surprisingly small place and getting any meaningful work will now be very difficult. Unless the liberal party have a job for him, maybe fifi wants him for his office.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by MOTR on May 18th, 2012 at 7:28am
"You see, only APH address", love a good conspiracy. Sounds like a trick to disguise some form of communication. It's either an answer to a question or a direction to do something in a particular way.

Can't wait for Chris to resurface.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by cods on May 18th, 2012 at 7:52am

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:40pm:
Does anyone else get the impression that Ashby's move today is an attempt to shift the focus off Pyne's lies?

http://www.cobarage.com.au/news/national/national/general/pyne-emailed-slippers-accuser/2559308.aspx?storypage=0


Why hasn't Pyne made some sort of comment ... he seems to have gone into hiding.




at the end of the day a court case is pending???..and no body should be saying anything and that goes for our foreign minister.[hehe] who seems to have a say in everything..

ok if a righty didnt do the right thing.. not a good look..

but for the left to bring in the ALLEGED victim and make him out to be the villain is something else again.

I agree Ashby should have gone to the powers that be with his complaints as that seems protocol but at the end of the day  is it LAW ? L.A.W.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 18th, 2012 at 8:00am

progressiveslol wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:34am:
Wow that pdf is such a revelation lol


Yeah, the stench of corruption and wrongdoing is overwhelming, making the findings against Thomson look weak by comparison!  ;D

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by progressiveslol on May 18th, 2012 at 8:23am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:00am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:34am:
Wow that pdf is such a revelation lol


Yeah, the stench of corruption and wrongdoing is overwhelming, making the findings against Thomson look weak by comparison!  ;D

lol you would think so wouldnt you.

The amount of crying on this issue and from the same people, the lack of crying and emmense amount of support for thomson is a joke.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 8:33am

cods wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 7:52am:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:40pm:
Does anyone else get the impression that Ashby's move today is an attempt to shift the focus off Pyne's lies?

http://www.cobarage.com.au/news/national/national/general/pyne-emailed-slippers-accuser/2559308.aspx?storypage=0


Why hasn't Pyne made some sort of comment ... he seems to have gone into hiding.




at the end of the day a court case is pending???..and no body should be saying anything and that goes for our foreign minister.[hehe] who seems to have a say in everything..

ok if a righty didnt do the right thing.. not a good look..

but for the left to bring in the ALLEGED victim and make him out to be the villain is something else again.

I agree Ashby should have gone to the powers that be with his complaints as that seems protocol but at the end of the day  is it LAW ? L.A.W.




Pyne is lying ... lying to Australia


And a statement is due from him, followed by an apology.



Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2012 at 8:34am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:00am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:34am:
Wow that pdf is such a revelation lol


Yeah, the stench of corruption and wrongdoing is overwhelming, making the findings against Thomson look weak by comparison!  ;D



It is not a competition.

Pyne lied and that is why he is hiding.

Time for an apology.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by skippy. on May 18th, 2012 at 8:37am

____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 8:33am:

cods wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 7:52am:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:40pm:
Does anyone else get the impression that Ashby's move today is an attempt to shift the focus off Pyne's lies?

http://www.cobarage.com.au/news/national/national/general/pyne-emailed-slippers-accuser/2559308.aspx?storypage=0


Why hasn't Pyne made some sort of comment ... he seems to have gone into hiding.




at the end of the day a court case is pending???..and no body should be saying anything and that goes for our foreign minister.[hehe] who seems to have a say in everything..

ok if a righty didnt do the right thing.. not a good look..

but for the left to bring in the ALLEGED victim and make him out to be the villain is something else again.

I agree Ashby should have gone to the powers that be with his complaints as that seems protocol but at the end of the day  is it LAW ? L.A.W.




Pyne is lying ... lying to Australia


And a statement is due from him, followed by an apology.

Abbott just made a statement. He said this should no longer be discussed BY ANYONE as it is going to court. How convenient for phony Tony to role out that line after HE is the one that has spent weeks running this story and now that it has been confirmed Pyne LIED about it, phony tony wants it shut down, what a turd.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by buzzanddidj on May 18th, 2012 at 2:22pm




Intersting to note that Pyne was put in charge ( ... or stepped forward) of "seducing" the gay guy ( ... and recent Liberal Party member) into starting civil legal proceedings





Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by progressiveslol on May 18th, 2012 at 2:37pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 2:22pm:




Intersting to note that Pyne was put in charge ( ... or stepped forward) of "seducing" the gay guy ( ... and recent Liberal Party member) into starting civil legal proceedings

riveting lol

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by buzzanddidj on May 18th, 2012 at 2:49pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 2:22pm:




Intersting to note that Pyne was put in charge ( ... or stepped forward) of "seducing" the gay guy ( ... and recent Liberal Party member) into starting civil legal proceedings


riveting lol




... but WHO'S "riveting" WHO ?






Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Doctor Jolly on May 18th, 2012 at 2:52pm
Can we safely conclude that homosexuality is rampant in the coalition. ?

I think so.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by adelcrow on May 18th, 2012 at 2:58pm
Unfortunately the Liberal Party faction I support seems to be crawling with married closet homosexuals.
It looks like the Greens are the only honest alternative at the next election..I hate being lied to  :P

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by adelcrow on May 18th, 2012 at 3:05pm
The reading material in Fifi Pynes ministerial office waiting room


Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Gist on May 18th, 2012 at 3:08pm

adelcrow wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 2:58pm:
Unfortunately the Liberal Party faction I support seems to be crawling with married closet homosexuals.
It looks like the Greens are the only honest alternative at the next election..I hate being lied to  :P


Julie Bishop isn't married is he?

Slim.
Neat.
Unmarried.

...not that there's anything wrong with that...  ;D

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by corporate_whitey on May 18th, 2012 at 3:13pm

adelcrow wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 2:58pm:
Unfortunately the Liberal Party faction I support seems to be crawling with married closet homosexuals.
It looks like the Greens are the only honest alternative at the next election..I hate being lied to  :P

So do I thats why in the outer suburbs we will never vote for the Green - the Green want to subsidize its McDonald's Vice Fast food Food Industries in working class suburbs with a Carbon Tax.   8-)

Scam. 8-)

:D

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by falah on May 18th, 2012 at 3:21pm
Wasn't Tony Abbott training to become a Catholic priest?

The Liberal Party; the last refuge of the scoundrel.

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by buzzanddidj on May 18th, 2012 at 3:59pm

Gist wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:08pm:

adelcrow wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 2:58pm:
Unfortunately the Liberal Party faction I support seems to be crawling with married closet homosexuals.
It looks like the Greens are the only honest alternative at the next election..I hate being lied to  :P


Julie Bishop isn't married is he?

Slim.
Neat.
Unmarried.

...not that there's anything wrong with that...  ;D



I have "heard" from a few staff and "personal assistants" that it is not uncommon in BOTH sides of politics
Nothing like the Catholic Church, but above average of OUTSIDE of politics
As with the UK Monachy, I think the attraction may be the power, pomp and ceremony to all of the above


It seems to be one of the LAST things the media holds a PRIVACY "code of conduct" on





Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 20th, 2012 at 6:39am

adelcrow wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:05pm:
The reading material in Fifi Pynes ministerial office waiting room




Did you scan that cover from a magazine in your sock drawer in your bedroom at home? Now many of your posts make sense!

Title: Re: Pyne's Email To Ashby
Post by Dnarever on May 20th, 2012 at 7:49am
Pyne's Email To Ashby

Normally when something smells rotten there is a good reason.

You have a party hack that left the conservatives to join the speaker’s office, he made continuous communications with several high profile Liberals who typically would not have given him the time of day and he was supporting another contestant in the seat his employer held.

Then Surprise Surprise he makes claims which would benefit the conservatives made directly following meetings with several high profile Liberals.

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