It is so official.

How is John Howard going to be remembered again?

(Prediction: Howard Lovers will be scared stupid of this thread!)

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 6:34pm:

It is so official. How is John Howard going to be remembered again? (Prediction: Howard Lovers will be scared stupid of this thread!)

:D

OH LOOKY, LONGY DOESN'T LIKE THIS ONE EITHER!!

Longy is still no friend of this topic!!!

I wonder how many years he will spend refusing to entertain this subject!!????????!!

DRAH, you will not get the right into a proper discussion on the economic record of the Howard era because most of them don't get it and think that turning in very average surpluses and failing to save adequately while creating a massive financial burden on future governments by failing to prepare or plan future infrastructure, the adequate funding and planning of health, education and tax reform and the crowning glory middle class welfare that has created the entitlement mentality and is now a budgetary diaster zone all adds up to financial brilliance.

Hey longy,.... dood where are ya?!!? I thought you were hardore man???????????????

nairbe wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 7:54pm:

DRAH, you will not get the right into a proper discussion on the economic record of the Howard era because most of them don't get it and think that turning in very average surpluses and failing to save adequately while creating a massive financial burden on future governments by failing to prepare or plan future infrastructure, the adequate funding and planning of health, education and tax reform and the crowning glory middle class welfare that has created the entitlement mentality and is now a budgetary diaster zone all adds up to financial brilliance.

Yeh, i know, but in a democracy you should be giving everyone the chance to put forward their argument!

  8-) 8-)

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 7:57pm:

nairbe wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:54pm: DRAH, you will not get the right into a proper discussion on the economic record of the Howard era because most of them don't get it and think that turning in very average surpluses and failing to save adequately while creating a massive financial burden on future governments by failing to prepare or plan future infrastructure, the adequate funding and planning of health, education and tax reform and the crowning glory middle class welfare that has created the entitlement mentality and is now a budgetary diaster zone all adds up to financial brilliance. Yeh, i know, but in a democracy you should be giving everyone the chance to put forward their argument!   8-) 8-)

Fair enough :), OH i remember there was the complete lack of planning for the ageing population as well as a decade of neglect in mental health and disability support but they started the future fund to pay their super out.

the Liberals couldn't plan a Sunday school picnic. They're inadequate.

Without a quote to Ken Henry actually saying that Australia has wasted the mining boom, or at the very least, a link to a report of such, from a credible source, you do not actually provide us with any reliable evidence that he even said that, DRAH.

I certainly believe that the Howard government was absolutely irresponsible, in the way that they chose to waste, so much of the massive windfall bonus to Tax receipts, that they received whilst in office, and would enjoy a discussion on that subject.
To see highly respected, and well credentialed experts, echoing similar sentiments would certainly add to the debate, and also may spark enough interest for some of our Howard supporting members to debate it with you.
However, DRAH, if you make yourself a joke to them, by just posting a whole series of Pro-Labor, "motherhood" statements, then you will never attract the debates you want.

Mining boom isn't over by a long shot, so with the perfect record of the labor government in implementing major policies and projects, everything should be squared away very soon.

CHRIS UHLMANN: Alas we have to finish but one last thing, have we wasted the mining boom?

DR KEN HENRY: That’s a question for future generations.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3503553.htm


Read into that what you will. I'm pretty sure that Ken Henry believes we have wasted the mining boom.

What if no one has any use for our minerals bigole?

Mining bust???

mozzaok wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 8:47am:

Without a quote to Ken Henry actually saying that Australia has wasted the mining boom, or at the very least, a link to a report of such, from a credible source, you do not actually provide us with any reliable evidence that he even said that, DRAH. I certainly believe that the Howard government was absolutely irresponsible, in the way that they chose to waste, so much of the massive windfall bonus to Tax receipts, that they received whilst in office, and would enjoy a discussion on that subject. To see highly respected, and well credentialed experts, echoing similar sentiments would certainly add to the debate, and also may spark enough interest for some of our Howard supporting members to debate it with you. However, DRAH, if you make yourself a joke to them, by just posting a whole series of Pro-Labor, "motherhood" statements, then you will never attract the debates you want.

mozza, why dont you make your point to this perennial idiot by combining his daily flood of one-liner threads into one or even better DELETING them until he starts a thread of some actual substance?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

CHRIS UHLMANN: Alas we have to finish but one last thing, have we wasted the mining boom? DR KEN HENRY: That’s a question for future generations. http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3503553.htm Read into that what you will. I'm pretty sure that Ken Henry believes we have wasted the mining boom. What if no one has any use for our minerals bigole? Mining bust???

Thats a silly interpretation. he said 'i cannot be the judge of that nor can anny of us'. In otherwords we will rely on hindsight for the answer.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

What if no one has any use for our minerals bigole? Mining bust???

Only you could envisage a world without any need for steel, the single most important material to human civilisation.  ;D

I think we'll do alright for the next few years.

mozzaok wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 8:47am:

Without a quote to Ken Henry actually saying that Australia has wasted the mining boom, or at the very least, a link to a report of such, from a credible source, you do not actually provide us with any reliable evidence that he even said that, DRAH. I certainly believe that the Howard government was absolutely irresponsible, in the way that they chose to waste, so much of the massive windfall bonus to Tax receipts, that they received whilst in office, and would enjoy a discussion on that subject. To see highly respected, and well credentialed experts, echoing similar sentiments would certainly add to the debate, and also may spark enough interest for some of our Howard supporting members to debate it with you. However, DRAH, if you make yourself a joke to them, by just posting a whole series of Pro-Labor, "motherhood" statements, then you will never attract the debates you want.

He didn't say it: he said, "....that's for others to decide!"

Shouldn't we put all DRAH's posts in the drugs thread?

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 8:52am:

Mining boom isn't over by a long shot, so with the perfect record of the labor government in implementing major policies and projects, everything should be squared away very soon.

Dodging the question!

LOL!!!  :o :o :o :o :o That says it all!!!!!!  :-*

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 2:39pm:

Shouldn't we put all DRAH's posts in the drugs thread?

Shouldn't we put all Andreis posts in the still-trying-to-hide-hemi-demi-semi-quaver-greed-behind-complete-impotentcy-in-the-form-of-nuclear-weaponry thread?  ;D ;D ;D  :-*

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longweekend58 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:13am: CHRIS UHLMANN: Alas we have to finish but one last thing, have we wasted the mining boom? DR KEN HENRY: That’s a question for future generations. http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3503553.htm Read into that what you will. I'm pretty sure that Ken Henry believes we have wasted the mining boom. What if no one has any use for our minerals bigole? Mining bust??? Thats a silly interpretation. he said 'i cannot be the judge of that nor can anny of us'. In otherwords we will rely on hindsight for the answer.

Longy doesn't sound like he has much momentum behind that answer...............  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:59am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:13am: What if no one has any use for our minerals bigole? Mining bust??? Only you could envisage a world without any need for steel, the single most important material to human civilisation.  ;D I think we'll do alright for the next few years.

Once again, RATES OF CHANGE!

END OF STORY!

You're pretending not to live in a world infactutated with perpetual growth all of a sudden aren't you buddy!

Economies are complex things buddy and you are all of a sudden pretending they aren't my dearest buddy!

  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

SLEEP WELL TONIGHT WON'T YA MATE!!

  :-*

You're mistake is shown here: "Only you could envisage a world without any need for steel,..."

What is 'growth', sorry? Just cos demand aint growing doesn't mean demand is zero. YOU SHOW LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OF INTERPRETATION OF GRAPHS THERE BUDDY!

RATES OF CHANGE IS AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT THAT IS KNOWN TO EVEN THE MOST HUMBLE OF TRADIES!

Big ole is a numpty it would seem D'oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

WHO DOES A LIBERAL VOTER THINK HE IS FOOLING WHEN HE SPEAKS?  :D :D

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 2:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:52am: Mining boom isn't over by a long shot, so with the perfect record of the labor government in implementing major policies and projects, everything should be squared away very soon. Dodging the question! LOL!!!  :o :o :o :o :o That says it all!!!!!!  :-*

Ok to answer your somewhat disconnected question.

I will remember howard as the filthy scumbag fascist and nothing more.

Still doesn't detract from my statement, the boom isn't over so you can rely on labor to implement the big policies with the same professionalism as the they did for the pink bats, BER and the mining tax.

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 2:39pm: BigOl64 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:52am: Mining boom isn't over by a long shot, so with the perfect record of the labor government in implementing major policies and projects, everything should be squared away very soon. Dodging the question! LOL!!!  :o :o :o :o :o That says it all!!!!!!  :-* Ok to answer your somewhat disconnected question. I will remember howard as the filthy scumbag fascist and nothing more. Still doesn't detract from my statement, the boom isn't over so you can rely on labor to implement the big policies with the same professionalism as the they did for the pink bats, BER and the mining tax.

You can't admit that China won't boom forever!

You can't admit that Colin Barnett, the premier of W.A., doesn't even call it a boom!

You can't admit the sonic boom has been wasted and the Liberal Party will never hear the end of it!

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 2:53pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:59am: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:13am: What if no one has any use for our minerals bigole? Mining bust??? Only you could envisage a world without any need for steel, the single most important material to human civilisation.  ;D I think we'll do alright for the next few years. Once again, RATES OF CHANGE! END OF STORY! You're pretending not to live in a world infactutated with perpetual growth all of a sudden aren't you buddy! Economies are complex things buddy and you are all of a sudden pretending they aren't my dearest buddy!   :o :o :o :o :o :o :o SLEEP WELL TONIGHT WON'T YA MATE!!   :-* You're mistake is shown here: "Only you could envisage a world without any need for steel,..." What is 'growth', sorry? Just cos demand aint growing doesn't mean demand is zero. YOU SHOW LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OF INTERPRETATION OF GRAPHS THERE BUDDY! RATES OF CHANGE IS AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT THAT IS KNOWN TO EVEN THE MOST HUMBLE OF TRADIES! Big ole is a numpty it would seem D'oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( WHO DOES A LIBERAL VOTER THINK HE IS FOOLING WHEN HE SPEAKS?  :D :D

1. Not a liberal voter or supporter, so well done there

2. Making up words and not checking your rant before hitting the send button also brilliant.

3. No-one yet has explain what this zero-growth utopia looks like, let alone how it is supposed to benefit all humanity, constantly crapping out the word sustainable doesn't mean too much here in the real world without substance to define it.

4. Going on about 'rates of change' without providing the context by which you are using it to 'prove' how smart your; doesn't


Calm down, think about what information you wish to convey, type it out while still remaining calm, have someone read it, if they say what the bugger are you on about try re-wording it and finally USE THE SPELL CHECK it only takes a minute.


Finally I ain't your buddy!

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 3:05pm:

You can't admit that China won't boom forever! You can't admit that Colin Barnett, the premier of W.A., doesn't even call it a boom! You can't admit the sonic boom has been wasted and the Liberal Party will never hear the end of it!

Not once did I ever state that this boom would "last forever", the very meaning of the word should indicate that.

For the final time I said it wasn't over (this is not to be interpreted as lasting forever) and that labor with their long history of getting the big jobs done right should be able to fix any problem left behind by howard.

Read it a few time if it helps.

I stand corrected!

BHP reckons another ten years and then Australia could be in serious trouble....

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 3:20pm:

I stand corrected! BHP reckons another ten years and then Australia could be in serious trouble....

Always good when making such a bold statement that you provide the source from which it came.

Otherwise some people might think you were lying, not me of course I believe everything you post on these boards.

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 3:29pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 3:20pm: I stand corrected! BHP reckons another ten years and then Australia could be in serious trouble.... Always good when making such a bold statement that you provide the source from which it came. Otherwise some people might think you were lying, not me of course I believe everything you post on these boards.

I don't care if you think i'm lying!

Go ahead and make me cry: i love crying!

  ;D ;D ;D ;D  ;)

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 3:32pm:

[quote author=6D66686063393B0F0 link=1337157273/26#26 date=1337232556] I don't care if you think i'm lying! Go ahead and make me cry: i love crying!   ;D ;D ;D ;D  ;)

So no link to that statement then?

Good thing I believe everything you say, without any evidence to back it up; I think I might sell up and re-train into another industry before everything collapses.  ;D

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 3:38pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 3:32pm: [quote author=6D66686063393B0F0 link=1337157273/26#26 date=1337232556] I don't care if you think i'm lying! Go ahead and make me cry: i love crying!   ;D ;D ;D ;D  ;) So no link to that statement then? Good thing I believe everything you say, without any evidence to back it up; I think I might sell up and re-train into another industry before everything collapses.  ;D

Who gives a flying fubar what you do buddy!

Just get off my cloud and she'll be apples alright brutha from another mutha!  :o :o  :-*