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Message started by GoddyofOz on May 16th, 2012 at 1:45am

Title: The EU should throw Greece out
Post by GoddyofOz on May 16th, 2012 at 1:45am
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-15/greece-to-hold-new-elections-after-talks-fail/4013482


Quote:
Greece will have to hold fresh elections after talks on forming a new government broke up on Tuesday without agreement, prolonging a political crisis that pushes it closer to bankruptcy and exit from the euro.

An inconclusive election on May 6 left parliament split between supporters and opponents of a 130 billion euro bailout deal, which is reviled by Greeks for imposing deep wage, pension and public spending cuts.

After a third day of failed talks with political leaders, a spokesman for president Karolos Papoulias said the process of seeking a compromise had been declared a failure and a new vote must be held.

He did not immediately give the date for the new vote, but elections rules suggest it will be in mid June.

A caretaker government would be formed on Wednesday (local time), the spokesman said.

While a second election is expected to produce a similarly divided parliament, opponents of the EU/IMF rescue package are likely to consolidate their gains and attempt to form an anti-bailout coalition that reneges on the deal keeping Greece afloat.

"We are going again towards elections, in a few days, under very bad conditions," socialist Pasok party leader Evangelos Venizelos said, regretting the fact that there was no accord.

"For God's sake, let's move towards something better and not something worse. Our motherland can find its way, we will fight for it to find its way.

"The Greek people must now make the right decisions for the good of the country."

Mr Papoulias told the meeting that time was running out for Greece, adding: "I am terrified at the idea of the problems facing the country" in the coming days.

Polls show the leftist SYRIZA party, which rejects the bailout and placed second in last week's vote, is now on course to win, a result that would give it an automatic bonus of 50 seats in the 300-seat parliament.

European leaders say that they will cut off funding for Greece if it rejects the bailout agreed in March, which would mean bankruptcy and all but certain exit from the European single currency.

Figures released on Tuesday showed the Greek economy slumped a massive 6.2 per cent in the first quarter compared with a year earlier, leaving the country mired deep in recession for a fifth year.


Someone in the EU has to stand up and say "nope, that's it, we're putting a stop to this because this is ridiculous". The whole nation of Greece, whether it be the Politicians or the civilians are acting like a bunch of spoilt, naggy wankers, and if they're so unwilling to take the necessary measures to save their own nation then the world should leave them to suffer on their own.

Title: Re: The EU should throw Greece out
Post by pansi1951 on May 16th, 2012 at 6:40am
I don't think they're game because they know that if Greece go, others will follow. The EU has had its day in my opinion. It was never going to work.

I know people in Germany and they said the Germans are furiously collecting the Deutschmark.

Title: Re: The EU should throw Greece out
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2012 at 7:36pm
http://www.infowars.com/greece-now-certain-to-drop-out-of-the-euro/

Greece Now Certain To Drop Out of the Euro



It struck me some time ago that the legacy media had lost the art of reporting the news, and were devoting their energies either to anticipating it, or trying to make it.
The former is very much what is happening in The Guardian and elsewhere, so much so that the news of actual events is being crowded out by the speculation – much of it ill-informed.
What one has to bear in mind though is that, over the next few weeks and months, billions and possibly trillions are at stake, with major losses or gains dependent on the decisions made by bankers, politicians and others.
The flow, management and control of information will be crucial to the results achieved and, in the way of things, those who know most will be saying least. That which they do say will be done for effect, with veracity and openness well down the batting order.
Few, if any, will have perfect knowledge, by no means all will necessarily understand what they learn. Many will react inadequately, wrongly or tardily to the information that does come their way. Some information emerging will be correct, some will be distorted, and much will be wrong – some deliberately so.
Market data, of course, tells you what has happened – and for reasons not necessarily related to headline events. They are reactive, rather than predictive, and traders are not necessarily well informed, especially when issues are tainted by politics, of which very few have a good understanding.
Yet, despite all this, there are some certainties. One is that Greece is going to drop out of the euro. Another is that there is going to be a rush of ill-informed commentary, and the noise level is going to be so high that it is going to be exceedingly difficult to work out what exactly is happening.
But one other thing is also certain. Greece is not going to be thrown out of the euro. We’ve been there before. There is no provision within the treaties to expel a member from the single currency, which is why the pressure was on Greece a few months ago to encourage it to leave – an “assisted” rather than an enforced exit.

Without a government, though, the actions of the Greek authorities will be hard to assess, and we may misread or misunderstand some of the signs coming out of that country – to say nothing of Brussels, Frankfurt, Berlin, Paris and London.
And so that brings us to one other certainty – the only one that is absolutely certain. In a very Chinese sense, we are living in interesting times.

Title: Re: The EU should throw Greece out
Post by Deathridesahorse on May 16th, 2012 at 7:40pm
As long as Germany got a win out of it the world comes out strong!

Here comes the Renewable Energy future!!!

:D :D

Title: Re: The EU should throw Greece out
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2012 at 7:56pm
ive heard shes related to ratzinger

he was hitler youth history produces



fresh from the satanic sacrifice?







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