Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in Malaysia.

Bout bloody time too. Now for the rest of them! Heh bush is scared to leave america nowadays. Apparently Canada and Switzerland are after him tool.

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/05/12/bush-convicted-of-war-crimes-in-absentia/

SOB

I do think that nothing will come of it...when it comes to super powers and its  leaders whatever they do is always justified and for the better of mankind.

In my opinion the only time war criminals will be brought to justice is when they are part of a losing team...a lot like the end of WW2, the Germans were trialled over there atrocities towards humanity but there was no mention of the U.S dropping 2 atom bombs over cites in Japan while incinerating thousands of non-combatant men woman and children of all ages...So, where's the justice.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 8:06am:

Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in Malaysia. Bout bloody time too. Now for the rest of them! Heh bush is scared to leave america nowadays. Apparently Canada and Switzerland are after him tool. http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/05/12/bush-convicted-of-war-crimes-in-absentia/ SOB

So what gives that kangaroo court any credibility?

Malaysia has not ratified the Rome statute for the ICC and looking at the list of signatories there are no Islamic countries that have ratified the rome statute yet they still want their own unofficial kangaroo court.
If you want to use the ICC then you have to sign the Rome Statute.

The Geneva conventions have not been ratified by Islamic countries so how can they claim war crimes when they dont even want ratify this convention,chopping Nick Bergs head off was a war crime,chopping the heads off  prisoners is a war crime.

The Universal declaration of human rights was not ratified by any Islamic countries because it violates Islamic law, how does human rights violate religious laws?

They were found guilty in a kangaroo court, they have to sign the Rome statute if they want to take them to the ICC.

http://www.iccnow.org/documents/signatory_chart_Nov_2011_EN.pdf

The Anzus treaty would  have put us in Iraq and Afghanistan regardless of which party was leading the country at the time.

Its a symbol. They are making it known that they do not support the terrorism of the bush govt. Apparently (according to the article) Canada and switzerland want to do the same thing. Maybe even do it properly. That would be nice.

Heh I doubt bush will be able to leave his country.

SOB

Funny that Bush should be accused of war crimes while Obama gets awarded the nobel peace prize. 

Where Bush goes, brown nosed Little Johnny Howard follows.

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

Funny that Bush should be accused of war crimes while Obama gets awarded the nobel peace prize.

You obviously didnt read the article.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 8:06am:

Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in Malaysia. Bout bloody time too. Now for the rest of them! Heh bush is scared to leave america nowadays. Apparently Canada and Switzerland are after him tool. http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/05/12/bush-convicted-of-war-crimes-in-absentia/ SOB

They should have tried Dan Quayle too. I can just imagine his reaction.

Absentia..... Absentia ....... just North of Bolivia isn't it?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 2:40pm:

... wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 12:25pm: Funny that Bush should be accused of war crimes while Obama gets awarded the nobel peace prize.  You obviously didnt read the article. SOB

Does it say that Obama didn't get the nobel peace prize?  It doesn't does it?  So what's your point?

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 2:40pm: ... wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 12:25pm: Funny that Bush should be accused of war crimes while Obama gets awarded the nobel peace prize.  You obviously didnt read the article. SOB Does it say that Obama didn't get the nobel peace prize?  It doesn't does it?  So what's your point?

Lol. If you had read it you would know. Actually my point in this case is that you didnt read it. You cant comment on it when you havent read it obviously because you get stuff wrong.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 3:49pm:

... wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 3:25pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 2:40pm: ... wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 12:25pm: Funny that Bush should be accused of war crimes while Obama gets awarded the nobel peace prize.  You obviously didnt read the article. SOB Does it say that Obama didn't get the nobel peace prize?  It doesn't does it?  So what's your point? Lol. If you had read it you would know. Actually my point in this case is that you didnt read it. You cant comment on it when you havent read it obviously because you get stuff wrong. SOB

So Obama didn't get the nobel peace prize?

Not seeing much else "wrong" in the statement.  Unless of course you think the fac I said "accused" rather than "convicted" is important....but surely not even you would be that stupid.

ok here is a bone


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In response to questions about the difference between the Bush and Obama Administrations, he added: “If President Bush was the President of extra-judicial torture then US President Barak Obama is the President of extra judicial killing through drone strikes. Our work has only just begun.”

Heh now that you mention it he is convicted. In malaysia. It says in the article that they know this conviction is unenforceable but they can submit it to some committee or other. Dont remember. Read it and see. The point is that its a symbol. Bush is guilty.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 4:12pm:

ok here is a bone Quote: In response to questions about the difference between the Bush and Obama Administrations, he added: “If President Bush was the President of extra-judicial torture then US President Barak Obama is the President of extra judicial killing through drone strikes. Our work has only just begun.” Heh now that you mention it he is convicted. In malaysia. It says in the article that they know this conviction is unenforceable but they can submit it to some committee or other. Dont remember. Read it and see. The point is that its a symbol. Bush is guilty. SOB

Uhuh.  Thats lovely. 

But mentioning that Obama got a nobel peace prize when he continued, and even intensified Bushs course of action is wrong..........how?

metal_j wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:14am:

I do think that nothing will come of it...when it comes to super powers and its  leaders whatever they do is always justified and for the better of mankind. In my opinion the only time war criminals will be brought to justice is when they are part of a losing team...a lot like the end of WW2, the Germans were trialled over there atrocities towards humanity but there was no mention of the U.S dropping 2 atom bombs over cites in Japan while incinerating thousands of non-combatant men woman and children of all ages...So, where's the justice.

Well you see that’s where it gets ambiguous and hypocritical.

You mention the US atomic bombs in Japan, but not London….or Berlin…or Dresden….or Tokyo.

Why?

My point is...just in case you missed it...depending on who is in control,it will determine what is right or wrong in this world. 

metal_j wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 4:23pm:

My point is...just in case you missed it...depending on who is in control,it will determine what is right or wrong in this world.

So, was the bombing of London a war crime? :-/

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 4:12pm: ok here is a bone Quote: In response to questions about the difference between the Bush and Obama Administrations, he added: “If President Bush was the President of extra-judicial torture then US President Barak Obama is the President of extra judicial killing through drone strikes. Our work has only just begun.” Heh now that you mention it he is convicted. In malaysia. It says in the article that they know this conviction is unenforceable but they can submit it to some committee or other. Dont remember. Read it and see. The point is that its a symbol. Bush is guilty. SOB Uhuh.  Thats lovely.  But mentioning that Obama got a nobel peace prize when he continued, and even intensified Bushs course of action is wrong..........how?

It indicated to me that you hadnt read the article because it was totally off topic. This means that anything you say may or may not have anything to do with it. In fact after your lil topic change midstream in the other thread i see that is a pattern of yours. You cant accept anything anyone else says so you move the goalposts.

SOB

FriYAY wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

metal_j wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 4:23pm: My point is...just in case you missed it...depending on who is in control,it will determine what is right or wrong in this world.  So, was the bombing of London a war crime? :-/

Maybe it's me, it the way I'm interpreting it ... 

metal_j wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 4:34pm: metal_j wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 4:23pm: My point is...just in case you missed it...depending on who is in control,it will determine what is right or wrong in this world.  So, was the bombing of London a war crime? :-/ Maybe it's me, it the way I'm interpreting it ...

I get ya drift – winners are grinners and loser can go **** themselves.

It is just funny how the atom bombs used in Japan take precedent over mass aerial bombings of other cities, by both sides.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 4:35pm:

... wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 4:14pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 4:12pm: ok here is a bone Quote: In response to questions about the difference between the Bush and Obama Administrations, he added: “If President Bush was the President of extra-judicial torture then US President Barak Obama is the President of extra judicial killing through drone strikes. Our work has only just begun.” Heh now that you mention it he is convicted. In malaysia. It says in the article that they know this conviction is unenforceable but they can submit it to some committee or other. Dont remember. Read it and see. The point is that its a symbol. Bush is guilty. SOB Uhuh.  Thats lovely.  But mentioning that Obama got a nobel peace prize when he continued, and even intensified Bushs course of action is wrong..........how? It indicated to me that you hadnt read the article because it was totally off topic. This means that anything you say may or may not have anything to do with it. In fact after your lil topic change midstream in the other thread i see that is a pattern of yours. You cant accept anything anyone else says so you move the goalposts. SOB

Henceforth, let it be known that I consider you to be a complete waste of time. (and oxygen) I get more meaningful conversations from my houseplants, with the added bonus that they don't have a grudge which compels them to pick arguments about nothing.

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Henceforth, let it be known that I consider you to be a complete waste of time. (and oxygen) I get more meaningful conversations from my houseplants, with the added bonus that they don't have a grudge which compels them to pick arguments about nothing.

I wasnt going to reply to this @ all but I have to. I want to know what the "Grudge" is.

SOB

FriYAY wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

metal_j wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 4:23pm: My point is...just in case you missed it...depending on who is in control,it will determine what is right or wrong in this world.  So, was the bombing of London a war crime? :-/

I dont know about that one. It was an act of war wasnt it? The article said the charges leveled on bush were for torture and treatment of prisoners etc that were against the agreements the countries have with each other.

SOB

yes kissenger got a nobel peace prize

whilst carpet bombing cambodia

and obama got one too while carpet bombing

afghanistan with drones and other weapons

this trial is deliberated upon with hard evidence

they have been tried and convicted in this court

now the arrests of bush and co then obama

many bankers and world leaders all freemasons

the vatican the queen yes stay tuned

namaste

-:)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 5:07pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 4:34pm: metal_j wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 4:23pm: My point is...just in case you missed it...depending on who is in control,it will determine what is right or wrong in this world.  So, was the bombing of London a war crime? :-/ I dont know about that one. It was an act of war wasnt it? The article said the charges leveled on bush were for torture and treatment of prisoners etc that were against the agreements the countries have with each other. SOB

Did they give Charles Graner 10 years for what happened in abu ghraib?

There are already people in jail for those crimes.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 2:27pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 5:07pm: FriYAY wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 4:34pm: metal_j wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 4:23pm: My point is...just in case you missed it...depending on who is in control,it will determine what is right or wrong in this world.  So, was the bombing of London a war crime? :-/ I dont know about that one. It was an act of war wasnt it? The article said the charges leveled on bush were for torture and treatment of prisoners etc that were against the agreements the countries have with each other. SOB Did they give Charles Graner 10 years for what happened in abu ghraib? There are already people in jail for those crimes.

Already ppl in jail for german war crimes too. Doesnt stop them trying to get more ppl. All the ppl on the planes hitting hte towers died but they still went after bin ladin.

SOB