Since we saw Rudd come to power in 2007 and his subsequent destruction of Howard's very successful Pacific Solution legislation, there have been 17,246 illegal immigrants arrive by people smuggling boats. Already this year there have been 33 boats arrive carrying almost 2,600 illegal immigrants. In one 24-hour period, more people turned up under Labor's watch than did during the last six years of the Howard government. That statistic alone clearly demonstrates what an epic fail of massive proportions Labor has been on this policy alone. Labor has lost control of our borders and this is not debatable.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/labors-boat-people-would-fill-the-city-of-griffith/story-e6freuzr-1226349275981

Don't feed the troll,she thinks Griffith only has a population of 10 people.

have you put your hand up skippy for your two asylum seekers... LOL>..

cods wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 8:14am:

have you put your hand up skippy for your two asylum seekers... LOL>..

have a reasonable size acreage,cods, I could/would happily take more than two. I'll put them up in tents and get them to work picking finger limes for me. :)

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 7:09am:

Since we saw Rudd come to power in 2007 and his subsequent destruction of Howard's very successful Pacific Solution legislation, there have been 17,246 illegal immigrants arrive by people smuggling boats. Already this year there have been 33 boats arrive carrying almost 2,600 illegal immigrants. In one 24-hour period, more people turned up under Labor's watch than did during the last six years of the Howard government. That statistic alone clearly demonstrates what an epic fail of massive proportions Labor has been on this policy alone. Labor has lost control of our borders and this is not debatable. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/labors-boat-people-would-fill-the-city-of-griffith/story-e6freuzr-1226349275981

Howards Pacific Solution was a failure. Do you want me to pull out the charts again? You know you can't understand them, much less debate them.

Oh and by the way, they're not illegal immigrants. You've been told this 17,514 times this year alone which demonstrates that you've clearly lost all sense of brain function on this issue and this is not debatable.

skippy. wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 8:17am:

cods wrote on May 8th, 2012 at 8:14am: have you put your hand up skippy for your two asylum seekers... LOL>.. have a reasonable size acreage,cods, I could/would happily take more than two. I'll put them up in tents and get them to work picking finger limes for me. :)

Would two or more TB carriers be OK?

salad in wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 9:03am:

skippy. wrote on May 8th, 2012 at 8:17am: cods wrote on May 8th, 2012 at 8:14am: have you put your hand up skippy for your two asylum seekers... LOL>.. have a reasonable size acreage,cods, I could/would happily take more than two. I'll put them up in tents and get them to work picking finger limes for me. :) Would two or more TB carriers be OK?

Nice try, but no banana,monkey. asylum seekers are medically checked and security checked, so your assertions are full of sh it,no surprise there.

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 7:09am:

Since we saw Rudd come to power in 2007 and his subsequent destruction of Howard's very successful Pacific Solution legislation, there have been 17,246 illegal immigrants arrive by people smuggling boats.

Not sure where you're getting your information from (Bolty?), but it's wrong.

Boat people seeking asylum are not illegal immigrants.

Perhaps you should learn a little bit about the subject before making posts like this.   ;)

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 7:09am:

Since we saw Rudd come to power in 2007 and his subsequent destruction of Howard's very successful Pacific Solution legislation, there have been 17,246 illegal immigrants arrive by people smuggling boats. Already this year there have been 33 boats arrive carrying almost 2,600 illegal immigrants. In one 24-hour period, more people turned up under Labor's watch than did during the last six years of the Howard government. That statistic alone clearly demonstrates what an epic fail of massive proportions Labor has been on this policy alone. Labor has lost control of our borders and this is not debatable. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/labors-boat-people-would-fill-the-city-of-griffith/story-e6freuzr-1226349275981

No illegal immigrants have arrived on boats.

SOB

"Asylum seekers irrespective of their mode of arrival, like others that arrive in Australia without a valid visa, are classified by Australian law to be ‘unlawful non‐citizens’.

However, the term ‘unlawful’ does not mean that asylum seekers have committed a criminal offence.

There is no offence under Australian law that criminalises the act of arriving in Australia or the seeking of asylum without a valid visa."

http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/library/pubs/bn/sp/asylumfacts.pdf

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 10:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 8th, 2012 at 7:09am: Since we saw Rudd come to power in 2007 and his subsequent destruction of Howard's very successful Pacific Solution legislation, there have been 17,246 illegal immigrants arrive by people smuggling boats. Already this year there have been 33 boats arrive carrying almost 2,600 illegal immigrants. In one 24-hour period, more people turned up under Labor's watch than did during the last six years of the Howard government. That statistic alone clearly demonstrates what an epic fail of massive proportions Labor has been on this policy alone. Labor has lost control of our borders and this is not debatable. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/labors-boat-people-would-fill-the-city-of-griffith/story-e6freuzr-1226349275981 No illegal immigrants have arrived on boats. SOB

Good twist of words by leftists, They are illegal immigrants, but this ALP Government has played word games because due to its failed policies and its failed ability to do security checks they just lump them under the title "Asylum Seekers", the very fact that these people paid for their position on these boats shows they are not seeking Asylum but are country shoppers who do not wish to be identified for unknown reasons and that makes them a security threat to Australians and Australia as a whole.

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 12:42pm:

Good twist of words by leftists, They are illegal immigrants, ...

No twist of words, just facts.

Boat people are not illegal immigrants.

Read this carefully, and then let me know which bit you don't understand:

"There is no offence under Australian law that criminalises the act of arriving in Australia or the seeking of asylum without a valid visa."

http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/library/pubs/bn/sp/asylumfacts.pdf

Uncle Meat wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 1:06pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 8th, 2012 at 12:42pm: Good twist of words by leftists, They are illegal immigrants, ... No twist of words, just facts. Boat people are not illegal immigrants. Read this carefully, and then let me know which bit you don't understand: "There is no offence under Australian law that criminalises the act of arriving in Australia or the seeking of asylum without a valid visa." http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/library/pubs/bn/sp/asylumfacts.pdf

Maybe you should read your fact sheet
and you will find it is not a legal document and also find its full of personal views from a leftist point of view. for example.


Quote:

Are asylum seekers ‘illegals’? Generally speaking ‘illegal immigrants’ are people who enter a country without meeting the legal requirements for entry (without a valid visa, for example). However, under Article 14 of the 1948 Universal declaration of human rights, everyone has the right to seek asylum and the 1951 Refugee Convention prohibits states from imposing penalties on those entering ‘illegally’ who come directly from a territory where their life or freedom is threatened.7 The UNHCR emphasises that a person who has a well‐founded fear of persecution should be viewed as a refugee and not be labelled an ‘illegal immigrant’ as the very nature of persecution means that

not 'are to be viewed'
not 'will be viewed'

in other words this is nothing more then a background Note as stated at the top of the page and is very misleading.

And i love how it started off with Generally speaking as to undermine that fact that entering a country without meeting the legal requirements for entry is illegal.

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

Maybe you should read your fact sheet and you will find it is not a legal document and also find its full of personal views from a leftist point of view.

Oh dear, you really are having a bad day aren't you?

The fact sheet refers to:

"Article 14 of the 1948 Universal declaration of human rights"

"1951 Refugee Convention"

Both legal documents.  Read them.  Learn something.

Asylum seekers, in boats, are not illegal immigrants.

No 'leftist point of view', no 'personal views'.  Just legal fact.

Thanks, but not even these illegal immigrants will work for corporate maggots...their entitlement economy is passing away...the age of the corporate productivity bonus is over... ;D ;D ;D

in a few years, the illegals will fill melbourne

Brown Nosers will be extinct soon...suffer. :) :) :) :)

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

in a few years, the illegals will fill melbourne

I really dont think that many are getting through the security @ the airports. ASIO tracks them down too when they skip out on their return and deports them back to where they came from.

SOB

Its a new world coming into view...not quite the one the maggots envisaged - I love it...I see people becoming entirely energy self sufficient soon which will really root up the dream of an emissions trading scheme...!  Corporations are no longer relevant or beneficial to the modern economy, they are a handicap... :) :) :) :)

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

Maybe you should read your fact sheet and you will find it is not a legal document ...

I think you'll find that the documents the fact sheet refers to are.

" ... under Article 14 of the 1948 Universal declaration of human rights, everyone has the right to seek asylum and the 1951 Refugee Convention prohibits states from imposing penalties ... "

In case you don't believe me:

"The 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees is the key legal document in defining who is a refugee, their rights and the legal obligations of states."

http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49da0e466.html

"The Universal Declaration of Human Rights is generally agreed to be the foundation of international human rights law. Adopted in 1948, the UDHR has inspired a rich body of legally binding international human rights treaties."

"International human rights law lays down obligations which States are bound to respect. By becoming parties to international treaties, States assume obligations and duties under international law to respect, to protect and to fulfil human rights. "

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/hr_law.shtml

::)

The class war is almost over, the corporations and banks are reeling with the pace of change... :D :D :D

Uncle Meat wrote on May 8^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 8th, 2012 at 2:32pm: Maybe you should read your fact sheet and you will find it is not a legal document ... I think you'll find that the documents the fact sheet refers to are. " ... under Article 14 of the 1948 Universal declaration of human rights, everyone has the right to seek asylum and the 1951 Refugee Convention prohibits states from imposing penalties ... " In case you don't believe me: "The 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees is the key legal document in defining who is a refugee, their rights and the legal obligations of states." http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49da0e466.html "The Universal Declaration of Human Rights is generally agreed to be the foundation of international human rights law. Adopted in 1948, the UDHR has inspired a rich body of legally binding international human rights treaties." "International human rights law lays down obligations which States are bound to respect. By becoming parties to international treaties, States assume obligations and duties under international law to respect, to protect and to fulfil human rights. " http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/hr_law.shtml ::)

A right to seek asylum (ie temporary protection) is NOT the same as a right to permanent re-settlement.