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Message started by imcrookonit on May 5th, 2012 at 12:56pm

Title: What About The Impact Of The Carbon Price.
Post by imcrookonit on May 5th, 2012 at 12:56pm
Bernard Keane



Australia is a high-cost place to do business, apparently.   :-?

I know because I read it in the papers regularly. Tom Albanese, of Rio Tinto, complained this week about the high cost of doing business in Australia. BG Group saying the cost of its Gladstone coal-seam gas project have blown out. The Business Council cited high costs back in April. One of those absurd “business roundtables” the AFR conducts, back in February, was given over to business executives lamenting “we’re becoming a high-cost, low-productivity nation”.

Usually the fault is laid at the blame of the government. Labor was “anti-business”, complained Graham Bradley in February, mainly because of the Fair Work Act. But the carbon tax cops criticism too. Today the head of the AIG complained that the carbon tax was creating uncertainty because, unlike the GST, businesses couldn’t calculate its impacts.

So let’s look at the evidence.   :)

Has the Fair Work Act increased costs for business? Let’s look at the ABS’s unit labour cost index. When the index is above 100, wage pressures are assumed to exist. How has it fared under this government?

So, this is pretty much the only government in 30 years to eliminate wage pressures for business. The only area where the government has failed to curb wage pressures has been in executive remuneration, which continues to relentlessly increase at rates well ahead of inflation. 

How about industrial disputes? Let’s have a look at the long-term trend. This is the number of days lost to industrial disputes per thousand employees. There was a much-vaunted spike in disputes in the September quarter last year, mostly driven by aggressive employers, but otherwise the level of disputes remains at historic lows.   :)

What about the business cost that is in the direct control of government, tax? Last year’s budget papers tell us the ratio between company tax to corporate gross operating surplus:

That is, outside mining, the overall tax take from business has fallen as a proportion of gross operating surplus. Plus, there’s the small matter of the corporate tax cut the government wants to introduce, which the Coalition and the Greens are opposing. In fact, this is a low-taxing government compared to its predecessor. Remember the Coalition’s rhetoric about being the party of small government, then have a look at tax revenue as a proportion of GDP and figure out which side of politics taxes less:   :-?

What else could the government be doing? Well it could avoid stimulating the rest of the economy so companies in the resources sector such as BG Group that need construction workers and material aren’t competing against the rest of the economy. And, lo and behold, the government is engaged in a massive fiscal contraction even before we get to the issue of a budget surplus for 2012-13.

What about the carbon price? Is that really a major source of uncertainty for business? Innex Willox of the AI Group laments that the impact of the carbon price is harder to calculate than the GST. But the carbon price impact will be small compared to that of the GST. Work done by the CSIRO and AECOM for the Climate Institute shows the price impact from the carbon price will be 0.6%, barely above the impact of Cyclone Yasi last year (0.5%), less than Cyclone Larry (0.8%) and less than a quarter of the impact of the GST (2.5%).  Treasury’s assessment is that the impact will be 0.7%.   :)

That’s the impact on consumers, not businesses, but it gives a clear idea of the scale of impact compared to the GST that Willox believes was so much easier.

The historical data suggests that, when it comes to labour and tax costs, the claim that Australia is becoming more expensive is dead wrong. In fact, it’s the reason why the wage share of national income is currently only just above its historic low of 52%, while the profit share is higher than at any time before 2008. And that’s why capital expenditure is at record levels — nearly 30% of GDP. The business decisions of investors contradicts the claim that we’re driving business away with high costs.

The issue is not so much whether Australian is becoming a more expensive place to do business, as whether Australian business will ever be satisfied or whether it will continue to push for ever more wage cuts and corporate tax cuts at the expense of the rest of us.   :(




Comments

    Jimmy
    Posted Friday, 4 May 2012 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Gee if only some this rational fact based analysis hit the MSM!! 
    Peter Ormonde
    Posted Friday, 4 May 2012 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Excellent Mr K.

    I await with enthusiasm the avalanche of complaints from these industry groups about the absurd wages being paid to these whining executives in Australia. Seems they get paid for making excuses and blaming everything but themselves.   :(

Title: Re: What About The Impact Of The Carbon Price.
Post by Deathridesahorse on May 5th, 2012 at 12:59pm
ABBOTT HAS BEEN FLAWED BY THIS BROOOHAAA, as twiggy forrest would say!!

Title: Re: What About The Impact Of The Carbon Price.
Post by great one on May 5th, 2012 at 12:59pm
Facts? on this forum .... it feels strange

Title: Re: What About The Impact Of The Carbon Price.
Post by nairbe on May 5th, 2012 at 1:02pm
IT'S ALL THE FAULT OF THOSE LEFTIST, COMMO, WATERMELLON LOVING GREEN BRAINWASHED SOCIALIST CHINESE CONSPIRACY ORGANISING UNIONIST BASTARDS. ;D ;D ;D 8-)

Title: Re: What About The Impact Of The Carbon Price.
Post by Deathridesahorse on May 5th, 2012 at 1:03pm
It appears the faux-conservatives HAVE RUN OUT OF QUESTIONS!(AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

;D ;D ;D  ;)

Title: Re: What About The Impact Of The Carbon Price.
Post by Maqqa on May 5th, 2012 at 1:12pm
where's the link to the article?

Title: Re: What About The Impact Of The Carbon Price.
Post by progressiveslol on May 5th, 2012 at 3:40pm
link or call it BS

Title: Re: What About The Impact Of The Carbon Price.
Post by adelcrow on May 5th, 2012 at 3:54pm
Aussies have never had it so good but its the first time they have had an opposition manipulating and lying to them on a daily basis about the true facts of our economy.
In real terms almost everything we spend money on in this country is cheaper than its ever been and even housing is more affordable and interest rates lower than they were in the last two terms of the Howard govt.
The only thing that's changed is that we have for the first time in this countries history an opposition that thrives on lies and negativity.

Title: Re: What About The Impact Of The Carbon Price.
Post by imcrookonit on May 5th, 2012 at 4:01pm
Unfortunately for the best part of it we know very little, what an Abbott government would do.  To be fair it is true though, we do know a few very frightening things.  Although most of the time, Abbott and his team, keep the good Australian people in the dark.   :(   

Title: Re: What About The Impact Of The Carbon Price.
Post by nairbe on May 5th, 2012 at 5:09pm

adelcrow wrote on May 5th, 2012 at 3:54pm:
Aussies have never had it so good but its the first time they have had an opposition manipulating and lying to them on a daily basis about the true facts of our economy.
In real terms almost everything we spend money on in this country is cheaper than its ever been and even housing is more affordable and interest rates lower than they were in the last two terms of the Howard govt.
The only thing that's changed is that we have for the first time in this countries history an opposition that thrives on lies and negativity.


You are forgetting the critical part, that being there is no easy cheap credit anymore for everyone to run up huge bills and personal debts on. That is the part they all miss and they still have not realised that that was the part that has caused the GFC. GREED.

Title: Re: What About The Impact Of The Carbon Price.
Post by adelcrow on May 5th, 2012 at 5:17pm

nairbe wrote on May 5th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

adelcrow wrote on May 5th, 2012 at 3:54pm:
Aussies have never had it so good but its the first time they have had an opposition manipulating and lying to them on a daily basis about the true facts of our economy.
In real terms almost everything we spend money on in this country is cheaper than its ever been and even housing is more affordable and interest rates lower than they were in the last two terms of the Howard govt.
The only thing that's changed is that we have for the first time in this countries history an opposition that thrives on lies and negativity.


You are forgetting the critical part, that being there is no easy cheap credit anymore for everyone to run up huge bills and personal debts on. That is the part they all miss and they still have not realised that that was the part that has caused the GFC. GREED.


That is why household debt is coming down and savings are increasing...all good for the country as far as Im concerned.

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