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Title: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by freediver on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:00pm
Porn video reveals Al Qaeda planns to hijack cruise ships and execute passengers
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137848/Porn-video-reveals-Al-Qaeda-planns-hijack-cruise-ships-execute-passengers.html Al Qaeda planned to hijack cruise ships and post footage of passengers being executed online to pressurise governments to release particular prisoners, it has been revealed. Documents embedded inside a pornographic movie, on a memory disc, show how the terror network wanted to dress tourists up in Guantanamo Bay-style orange jumpsuits before murdering them. The audacious plan is just one of several plots discovered by investigators who decrypted the hardware found in the underpants of a suspected terrorist arrested in Berlin last year. The cache of 141 documents, described as 'pure gold' by intelligence agencies, also details how the network wanted to conduct a Mumbai-style attack - where ten gunmen killed 164 people in a three-day rampage in 2008 - in Europe. And it reveals the organisation is using a 'twin-track strategy' - using 'low-cost, low-tech attacks' to keep security services preoccupied as other 'operatives' plan large-scale 9/11 type atrocities. The documents, seized by German intelligence operatives in the days following Osama Bin Laden's death last year, reveal an 'extraordinarily detailed insight into the inner workings of Al Qaeda'. CNN reports how Al Qaeda's hand in the London 7/7 and attempted 7/21 bomb plots emerges for the first time with a highly detailed account from cell leader Rashid Rauf. CNN's Nic Robertson said: 'These documents show that London was extremely lucky on 7/21. Robertson added: 'These documents lay open Al Qaeda’s inner workings. They prove the links between some of its highest profile plots and attacks, and show how it's trying to cope with the constant pressure from military and intelligence operations against it.' http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1171104--cruise-ship-hijackings-obama-assassination-among-al-qaeda-s-plans-reports?bn=1 Meanwhile, a former U.S. government official said assassinating U.S. President Barack Obama and U.S. Gen. David Petraeus were on bin Laden’s “wish list.” Michael Leiter also told NBC’s Today show the assassinations weren’t bin Laden’s highest priority: that would have been another attack on the massive scale of Sept. 11, 2001. That supports disclosures from captured documents published on the weekend by the Washington Post, which painted bin Laden as a beleaguered, fretful CEO of a global terrorist organization slipping from his grasp. Bin Laden had become obsessed with the ideological purity of his terrorist mission, the Post said: killing innocent Muslims was wrong, killing Westerners was permissible. Bin Laden was also grooming new factions, such as Nigeria’s Boko Haram, to take up the ideological cause and terrorist attacks, the newspaper said. http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120502/news/705029969/ A few months before Osama bin Laden's death, websites linked to al-Qaida ran excited commentary about a proposed new killing machine dubbed the “human lawn mower.” The idea was to attach rotating blades to the front of a pickup truck and drive the contraption into crowds. While some jihadists admired the idea, one graying veteran of the terrorist movement took a stand against it. That was bin Laden himself, by then living out his twilight years in a Pakistani villa with ample time to think about his legacy. The man who famously ordered jetliners flown into skyscrapers drew the line at cutting down humans like weeds. Although some insights from the documents have been revealed over the past year, new excerpts reveal the extent of bin Laden's obsession with ideological purity as he sought to manage the group's demoralized and scattered networks in his final years. They show him seeking to reassert control over factions of loosely affiliated jihadists from Yemen to Somalia, as well as independent actors who he believed had sullied al-Qaida's reputation and muddied its central message. Bin Laden emerges from these accounts as a chief executive fully engaged in the group's myriad crises, grappling with financial problems, recruitment, rebellious field managers and sudden staff vacancies resulting from the unrelenting U.S. drone campaign. In some memos he worried about his own security, and in others he fretted about missing a huge potential marketing opportunity: the Arab Spring, with its millions of street revolutionaries looking to reshape politics in the Middle East. The Saudi who built the world's first truly global jihadist movement is viewed as distracted at times by mundane details, such as which crops should be planted by al-Shabab allies in Somalia. He was coolly cordial with his former partner Ayman al-Zawahiri but increasingly drawn to the ideas of a younger lieutenant who possessed a firmer grasp of the power of the Internet and an ambition to modernize al-Qaida's message. |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by Soren on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:12pm
First we had the banality of evil.
Now it's the slapstick of evil. |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by abu_rashid on May 3rd, 2012 at 7:24am freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:00pm:
Because the West don't lie through their teeth to justify their despicably inhuman actions against Muslim nations... And if they did lie, a reputable rag like the dailymail surely wouldn't stoop to printing it, would they? ::) Seriously fd, do you actually think about what you post? Or do you just get overwhelmed with the excitement of possibly getting your hands on another piece of propaganda you think you can use against Islam? |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by freediver on May 3rd, 2012 at 8:23am
Actually Abu, I first read about in the local paper. It is in the Australian also. Google it. It is everywhere.
Or do you expect us to believe Osama was actually a nice guy, just misunderstood? |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 3rd, 2012 at 10:08am
I think you pretty damn dumb to buy into crap like this
the fact that all msm outlets are covering it just makes it harder to believe |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by Soren on May 3rd, 2012 at 11:17am abu_rashid wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 7:24am:
Pakistan and Bangladesh were created out of a massive massacre and ethnic cleansing (in the millions of dead, tens of millions of displaced). that doesn't bother you? You are never exercised about that slaughter and despicably inhuman actions against Muslims by other Muslims. Why is that? |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by Spot of Borg on May 3rd, 2012 at 11:35am
Who cares. Hes dead.
SOB |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by falah on May 3rd, 2012 at 11:52am
The West has been making up these stories about alQaeda ever since 9/11.
I can remember in the days after 9/11, they were making up stories about hijackers getting lapdances, and even leaving a Quran in a bar. These claims are ridiculous. Muslims have to wash ritually before even touching the Quran. No Muslim would bring a Quran into a bar. http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Atta,_alcohol,_strip_clubs_and_drugs http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/09/10/911-hijacker-mohamed-atta-the-unreported-story/ |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by freediver on May 3rd, 2012 at 12:13pm
So killing 10000 innocent people is fine, but leaving a Koran in a bar would upset you?
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So what makes things easy to believe? Is it only true if it paints Islam in a better light? |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by falah on May 3rd, 2012 at 3:08pm freediver wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 12:13pm:
Are you insane? Do you think killing any civilians is fine? Do you think killing 1 is fine? |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by freediver on May 3rd, 2012 at 6:00pm
So why do you care whether they left a Koran in a bar? Surely that is trivial to the point of absurdity? Unless of course you think your fellow Muslims are going to care more about that than the innocent victims.
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by Yadda on May 3rd, 2012 at 10:42pm freediver wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 6:00pm:
Moslems are worshippers of pieces of paper. They worship dust. They worship the earth. [.....which in the end, is what any piece of paper is, a fragment of this earth] Moslem adulation of pieces of paper, is IDOLATRY http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1331861539/0#0 Quote:
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by Annie Anthrax on May 3rd, 2012 at 11:15pm freediver wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 6:00pm:
Falah is possibly making the point that pious Muslims about to sacrifice their lives for their religion probably wouldn't be in a bar in the first place, let alone take a Quran into one and leave it there. |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by Yadda on May 3rd, 2012 at 11:33pm Annie Anthrax wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 11:15pm:
'.....pious moslems about to sacrifice their lives for their religion', and become 'martyrs' ? Moslem 'martyrdom', is a perversion of the English word. Dictionary; pervert = = 1 alter from its original meaning or state to a corruption of what was first intended. 2 lead away from what is right, natural, or acceptable. ISLAM itself, is a perversion, imo. The truth is that ISLAM, and moslems, misrepresent ISLAM, to the world. Dictionary; religion = = the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. For moslems, killing [murdering] those who refuse to believe as you believe, is devotion to Allah ? "....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood." ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......PROMOTING, JUSTIFYING, ISLAM's VIOLENT JIHAD |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by freediver on May 4th, 2012 at 8:59am Annie Anthrax wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 11:15pm:
I see. So the Koran in a bar thing must be a lie, because it was pious Muslims who did it? Or was it the Jews? |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by bludger on May 4th, 2012 at 11:42am
See how religion stuffs everything up?
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by falah on May 4th, 2012 at 11:43am freediver wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 8:59am:
The point is that the whole story doesn't add up. It is just propaganda aimed at demonising Muslims. I am citing this example to demonstrate how the US propganda machine works. The stuff they are saying about Bin Laden is about as believable as a story about a Muslim taking a Quran into a bar. Quote:
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by Annie Anthrax on May 4th, 2012 at 12:04pm freediver wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 8:59am:
I don't know who was ultimately responsible. I think it's a bigger question than it appears. Falah is right in that the Quran being taken into a bar by pious Muslims doesn't make sense. It's obviously not impossible, but it's very unlikely. |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by freediver on May 4th, 2012 at 2:29pm Quote:
So examples of things the US did not do are proof that Osama is not behind 9/11? Can you elaborate a bit on your logic please? Also, why is it so hard to believe that an organisation that declared war on the US would be behind 9/11? Do you expect us to believe that Osama is just another misunderstood Muslim? |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by falah on May 4th, 2012 at 5:05pm freediver wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 2:29pm:
Do you deliberately misunderstand or are you really that stupid? The CIA propaganda plots demonstrate that the CIA is willing to make up stories about Muslims that are not true. If you read the article, you would see that the CIA did make a fake video of Bin Laden. Quote:
If they made this fake video, how many fake videos have they put out that they haven't admitted to yet? freediver wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 2:29pm:
First of all, Bin Laden was ordered by the Taliban government not to conduct such attacks. To disobey an Islamic government's legitimate order is a sin. Secondly, if Bin Laden did it, why deny it? He was already targetted as no.1 enemy of US before 9/11. If he did why deny it? Thirdly, what is the point of doing such an attack and not claiming responsibility? Is it normal for a terrorist group carry out an operation and then not claim responsibility? The whole point of terorrorism is to create fear of your group in order to further your political agenda. Yet Bin Laden denied responsibility. |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by freediver on May 4th, 2012 at 7:10pm Quote:
Actually they demonstrate the opposite. Did you even read your own evidence? It was examples of things they did not do. Quote:
You mean this one? You seem to have cut off your quote just before it says it was never released. Did you consciously do that to make it appear your evidence backed up your claims, rather than demonstrating that the CIA consciously chooses not to do these things? The video apparently used some of the CIA's "darker skinned" employees as extras playing the terror chief's henchmen. It does not seem to have been released. Quote:
You mean like Osama's declaration of war, or planes hitting the twin towers? Or just the grand total of 0 fake videos you have presented as evidence? Quote:
LOL. I guess that settles it then. Quote:
As I already explained in the other thread - because it furthered his agenda to lie about it. If he had admitted to it, the Taliban would have had their hand forced to turn him over - no war in Afghanistan - hardly the outcome desired by someone who declared war on the US. Do you think Osama wanted the troops out of Afghanistan, or in Afghanistan? Your own stupid attempts to insist the Jews must have done it shows how gullible the worlds Muslims are and how easy it is for evil men like Osama to take advantage of you. |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by falah on May 5th, 2012 at 11:06am freediver wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 7:10pm:
Your insistence that Muslims did 9/11 instead of Zionists, shows how the gullible you are - even after it has been shown that Israel has committed many false-flag operations. |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by freediver on May 5th, 2012 at 1:05pm
Falah, have you looked at your own evidence yet? Can you explain how examples of the CIA not doing what you accuse them of proves that they did it?
Why did you cut your quote off mid paragraph just before the article conceded the video was never released? Do you think Osama's declaration of war is fake? Do you think Osama wanted US troops in Afghanistan, or out of Afghanistan? |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by bludger on May 5th, 2012 at 5:22pm
See why religion stuffs everything up?
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by freediver on May 5th, 2012 at 5:57pm
You mean all the mindless repetition of mantras?
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by falah on May 6th, 2012 at 12:11pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po6xSgHp55w |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by Avram Horowitz on May 6th, 2012 at 12:14pm
SLAUGHTER CRUISE PASSENGERS?
PALESTINIANS = COWARDS Leon Klinghoffer (September 24, 1916 – October 8, 1985) was a disabled American appliance manufacturer who was murdered and thrown overboard by Palestinian terrorists in the hijacking of the cruise ship Achille Lauro in 1985 Leon Klinghoffer, 69, a retired businessman who was in a wheelchair, and his wife Marilyn (née Windwehr), were celebrating their 36th wedding anniversary with a cruise on the Achille Lauro. On October 7, 1985, four hijackers from the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF) took control of the liner off Egypt as it was sailing from Alexandria to Port Said, Egypt. Holding the passengers and crew hostage, they ordered the captain to sail to Tartus, Syria, and demanded the release of 50 Palestinians then in Israeli prisons, including the Lebanese prisoner Samir Kuntar. The next day, after being refused permission by the Syrian government to dock at Tartus, the hijackers singled out Klinghoffer, a Jew, for murder, shooting him in the forehead and chest as he sat in his wheelchair. They then forced the ship's barber and a waiter to throw his body and wheelchair overboard. Marilyn Klinghoffer, who did not witness the shooting, was told by the hijackers that he had been moved to the infirmary. She only learned the truth after the hijackers left the ship at Port Said. PLO Foreign Secretary Farouq Qaddumi said that perhaps the terminally ill Marilyn Klinghoffer had killed her husband for insurance money; however, the PLO later accepted responsibility, apologized, and reached a financial settlement with the Klinghoffer family. Initially, the hijackers were granted safe passage to Tunisia, but U.S. President Ronald Reagan ordered a U.S. fighter plane to force the get-away plane to land at Naval Air Station Sigonella in Italy. After an extradition dispute Italian authorities arrested and later tried the Palestinian terrorists but let Abu Abbas, the Palestinian who had served as a mediator, fly to Yugoslavia. Klinghoffer's body was found by the Syrians on October 14–15 and returned to the United States around October 20. Leon Klinghoffer was buried at Beth David Memorial Park in Kenilworth, New Jersey. Four months after her husband's murder, Marilyn Klinghoffer (October 5, 1926 – February 9, 1986) died of colon cancer, aged 59. The Klinghoffers are survived by two daughters, Ilsa and Lisa Klinghoffer. |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by falah on May 6th, 2012 at 12:31pm
The PLO was a communist organisation. Who invented communism? A Jew named Karl Marx!
People inspied by a Jew killed a Jew. |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by Soren on May 6th, 2012 at 1:23pm falah wrote on May 6th, 2012 at 12:31pm:
You bastards are excused for everything you do, aren't you? There isn't a single despicable thing done in the name of Mohammed that you would take responsibility for - or accept that t is despicable. You are all psychotics. |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by falah on May 6th, 2012 at 2:49pm
The PLO has nothing to do with Islam. They are a communist organisation inspired by the Jew, Karl Marx.
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by freediver on May 6th, 2012 at 2:56pm
Falah can you explain to us how to interpret Osama's claim that he was not responsible for 9/11? Does it mean that he did not do it? Or that he would apostasise himself by lying about it if he did do it? Or would it be perfectly acceptable for him to lie about it if he did do it?
Have you looked at your own evidence yet? Can you explain how examples of the CIA not doing what you accuse them of proves that they did it? Why did you cut your quote off mid paragraph just before the article conceded the video was never released? Do you think Osama's declaration of war is fake? Do you think Osama wanted US troops in Afghanistan, or out of Afghanistan? |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by abu_rashid on May 6th, 2012 at 11:10pm freediver wrote on May 6th, 2012 at 2:56pm:
As opposed to the supposed evidence he did do it? "We said he did, so he must've"? Come on fd, the argument you're pushing is far far weaker on this front. We operate on the presumption of innocence, when you've got some conclusive proof he did it, then your points will be worth making, until then, it's just a waste of time discussing this with you. Your views are pure hearsay. |
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Title: Re: Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers Post by freediver on May 7th, 2012 at 8:49am
Abu I thought you already conceded that he did it.
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