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Message started by Maqqa on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:35am

Title: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by Maqqa on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:35am
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-02/police-raid-hsu-sydney-office/3984666

Updated May 02, 2012 09:25:38

New South Wales Police officers raided the Sydney offices of the Health Services Union this morning, seizing "a large number of documents and computer equipment."

The search by Strike Force Carnarvon is part of an investigation from September last year, into allegations of fraud committed against the union.

Police have already examined a large amount of union documents and carried out detailed forensic accounting analysis of the union's affairs.

They say they are now seizing documents and computer equipment from the Pitt Street Premises.

More to come.

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by progressiveslol on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:39am
Do you think 6 months is enough warning to be able to shred important documents. Maybe 7 months would have been better.

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by Maqqa on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:43am

progressiveslol wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:39am:
Do you think 6 months is enough warning to be able to shred important documents. Maybe 7 months would have been better.


I thought it was 4 years?

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by Spot of Borg on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:47am
So who is behind this? The libs? Wanting to get rid of workers rights and unions? Why dont we do a raid on parliament house and go through both parties documents and computers?

SOB

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by progressiveslol on May 2nd, 2012 at 10:10am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:47am:
So who is behind this? The libs? Wanting to get rid of workers rights and unions? Why dont we do a raid on parliament house and go through both parties documents and computers?

SOB

labor had started the precedence for liberals (to get involved in union business) to make sure union heads dont rip the members off like has happened in the HSU. But you want that to continue I guess. Well it is not going to be under liberals watch.

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by borntorule on May 2nd, 2012 at 10:24am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:47am:
So who is behind this? The libs? Wanting to get rid of workers rights and unions? Why dont we do a raid on parliament house and go through both parties documents and computers?

SOB


It's probably because when FWA were ASKED for the documents to complete the police investigation, they refused to hand them over. So now, the police are just going to take them.

So for all those that seem to think that Craig Thomson is not on the police agenda, think again.

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by progressiveslol on May 2nd, 2012 at 10:33am

borntorule wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 10:24am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:47am:
So who is behind this? The libs? Wanting to get rid of workers rights and unions? Why dont we do a raid on parliament house and go through both parties documents and computers?

SOB


It's probably because when FWA were ASKED for the documents to complete the police investigation, they refused to hand them over. So now, the police are just going to take them.

So for all those that seem to think that Craig Thomson is not on the police agenda, think again.

They should raid FWA to see if the documents match or have been altered.

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by borntorule on May 2nd, 2012 at 10:48am

progressiveslol wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 10:33am:

borntorule wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 10:24am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:47am:
So who is behind this? The libs? Wanting to get rid of workers rights and unions? Why dont we do a raid on parliament house and go through both parties documents and computers?

SOB


It's probably because when FWA were ASKED for the documents to complete the police investigation, they refused to hand them over. So now, the police are just going to take them.

So for all those that seem to think that Craig Thomson is not on the police agenda, think again.

They should raid FWA to see if the documents match or have been altered.


They may yet raid the FWA if the documents they want are found to be missing.

It all feels like it is moving towards a point of criminal charges. That will probably be Gillard's undoing because Thomson will probably resign.

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by juliar on May 2nd, 2012 at 12:40pm
Strewth !!! Mick nicked in HSU car park while trying to nick documents !!!!!

Was Mick tipped off or did someone see Mick nicking stuff and call police ?

THE union boss Michael Williamson has allegedly been caught attempting to take a bag of documents out of the HSU while a police raid occurs on the premises.

Detectives from Strike Force Carnarvon moved in this morning to raid the premises as part of their investigation into alleged corruption in the Health Services Union.

The head of the fraud squad, Detective Superintendent Colin Dyson, confirmed police were considering charging someone with attempting to hinder the investigation by removing information.

http://www.news.com.au/national/on-the-run-union-documents-seized-by-cops-in-carpark/story-e6frfkvr-1226344608174

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by Guildford on May 2nd, 2012 at 12:45pm

juliar wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 12:40pm:
Strewth !!! Mick nicked in HSU car park while trying to nick documents !!!!!

THE union boss Michael Williamson has allegedly been caught attempting to take a bag of documents out of the HSU while a police raid occurs on the premises.

Detectives from Strike Force Carnarvon moved in this morning to raid the premises as part of their investigation into alleged corruption in the Health Services Union.

The head of the fraud squad, Detective Superintendent Colin Dyson, confirmed police were considering charging someone with attempting to hinder the investigation by removing information.

http://www.news.com.au/national/on-the-run-union-documents-seized-by-cops-in-carpark/story-e6frfkvr-1226344608174



I don't often LOL but my God LOL, this is like a satirical  exaggeration on real happenings.

Except it's real !

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by progressiveslol on May 2nd, 2012 at 12:56pm

juliar wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 12:40pm:
Strewth !!! Mick nicked in HSU car park while trying to nick documents !!!!!

Was Mick tipped off or did someone see Mick nicking stuff and call police ?

THE union boss Michael Williamson has allegedly been caught attempting to take a bag of documents out of the HSU while a police raid occurs on the premises.

Detectives from Strike Force Carnarvon moved in this morning to raid the premises as part of their investigation into alleged corruption in the Health Services Union.

The head of the fraud squad, Detective Superintendent Colin Dyson, confirmed police were considering charging someone with attempting to hinder the investigation by removing information.

http://www.news.com.au/national/on-the-run-union-documents-seized-by-cops-in-carpark/story-e6frfkvr-1226344608174

Would like to know if the police were going to go in anyway or only because they were called of the document theft.

Maybe they were waiting for him to do this all along. After all, why look for the documents that will pin him, when you can wait for him to try and steal the documents that would be best read to convict him.

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by borntorule on May 2nd, 2012 at 1:34pm
It is a comedy of errors! The entire saga is unravelling rather quickly now. Expect to see Gillard being replaced shortly.

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by Maqqa on May 2nd, 2012 at 2:19pm

Guildford wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 12:45pm:

juliar wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 12:40pm:
Strewth !!! Mick nicked in HSU car park while trying to nick documents !!!!!

THE union boss Michael Williamson has allegedly been caught attempting to take a bag of documents out of the HSU while a police raid occurs on the premises.

Detectives from Strike Force Carnarvon moved in this morning to raid the premises as part of their investigation into alleged corruption in the Health Services Union.

The head of the fraud squad, Detective Superintendent Colin Dyson, confirmed police were considering charging someone with attempting to hinder the investigation by removing information.

http://www.news.com.au/national/on-the-run-union-documents-seized-by-cops-in-carpark/story-e6frfkvr-1226344608174



I don't often LOL but my God LOL, this is like a satirical  exaggeration on real happenings.

Except it's real !


They've had 4 years to shred documents and he leaves it until today

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by red baron on May 2nd, 2012 at 3:46pm
Don't you just love that. These kind of people think they are untouchable. But all it takes is a search Warrant then its too late to start flushing the stuff down the toilet.

That Williamson will go a row for trying to destroy evidence. And I bet there a sh.tload of it in that bag he was carting out. ;D

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by cods on May 2nd, 2012 at 4:14pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 9:47am:
So who is behind this? The libs? Wanting to get rid of workers rights and unions? Why dont we do a raid on parliament house and go through both parties documents and computers?

SOB





so you think union official corruption within unions is OK....shame shame shame


this has nothing to do with the Libs I think you will find its Ms Jackson.. the one that probably has a contract on her.. that has brought this on....and bloody good on her I say..
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these officials were clocking up $600.000 on credit cards alone pa... all out of the poorest peoples union dues..

give $1.7.million contacts to old mates..without tenders



I think its time you took a good hard look at what you are supporting.

or at least read all the bloody facts.

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by cods on May 2nd, 2012 at 4:15pm

red baron wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 3:46pm:
Don't you just love that. These kind of people think they are untouchable. But all it takes is a search Warrant then its too late to start flushing the stuff down the toilet.

That Williamson will go a row for trying to destroy evidence. And I bet there a sh.tload of it in that bag he was carting out. ;D




they had to sneak up on them though didnt they.. a surprise raid...

I wonder if jules knew about it??????

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 2nd, 2012 at 4:51pm
There are reports Williamson has tried to take off with documents and other reports that documents have been found in the carpark. Anyone surprised? I, for one, am not.

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by Maqqa on May 2nd, 2012 at 5:52pm
The Thomson saga has stretched 4 years with Gillard backing him all the way

Slipper allegations has taken less time but Gillard backed him nevertheless

Interesting how just a few days ago Gillard took drastic actions and today:

(1) Raid on HSU

(2) The AFP decide to further investigate Slipper

Coincident?

hhmmmmm  :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by cods on May 2nd, 2012 at 6:05pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 4:51pm:
There are reports Williamson has tried to take off with documents and other reports that documents have been found in the carpark. Anyone surprised? I, for one, am not.




in one news report he had a stuffed bag full of documents...juicy reading what?

I do hope Jackson comes out of all this with her head up high..I would think most of the 70.000 members would be backing her..

not sure how long this union has been operating.. and how long Williamson and THOMO have had their greedy little fingers on the button...

but lets be honest here does anyone think its only been going on for 4 years???????

I am sure it hasnt.

I often wonder what these people do with all this money Williamson has been wearing about 10 hats..all with salaries..and probably fringe benefits to boot.

even the family must scratch their heads..

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by Verge on May 2nd, 2012 at 6:58pm
I don't get how the HSU ever passed an external audit from their auditors with all these questions of cash advances.

Title: Re: Police raids HSU Sydney office
Post by longweekend58 on May 4th, 2012 at 6:17pm

Verge wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 6:58pm:
I don't get how the HSU ever passed an external audit from their auditors with all these questions of cash advances.


It was probably a cousin of Thomson that did the audit.

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