- You can differentiate between Israel and Nazi Germany, or admit they are the same.
- You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same.
- You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do.

Only need one of them and I am gone forever.
Obviously this applies to certain members and the admitting part needs to be genuine.

Obviously most of you do not want me here and this is an easy and fair way to get rid of me, I am not asking much at all.

Yes I get angry about stuff but mainly because you people continue to deny reality, replacing genuine answers with politician like spin. I wouldn't care so much if you people could just admit the obvious, acknowledgment is the first key to fixing a problem.

I will say it again:
Most of you people do not care what someone does but WHO is doing it.
This proves that you lack real empathy and makes me question if you care about other people at all unless it can better yourself.



So I am waiting...

Quote:

.......most of you do not want me here .....

I want you here.

I think people just object to anti-semitism and showing joy at the deaths of people in 9/11.

It just makes you a generally nasty human being.

Whether you stay or don't on here, I couldn't give a monkeys.

madweekend will never criticise the church and the pedophiles that infiltrate it simply because they have guaranteed him a gold pass to heaven and he is indebt to them for the rest of his life because of one random medical cure :D LOL

Dont leave PP

SOB

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:17pm:

I think people just object to anti-semitism and showing joy at the deaths of people in 9/11. It just makes you a generally nasty human being. Whether you stay or don't on here, I couldn't give a monkeys.

I have been called an "antisemite" several times myself since I have been here. Its a complete BS "insult" meant to silence ppl that disagree with what israel is doing.

SOB

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:17pm:

I think people just object to anti-semitism and showing joy at the deaths of people in 9/11. It just makes you a generally nasty human being. Whether you stay or don't on here, I couldn't give a monkeys.

I am not anti semitic I just do not support the killing of innocent people.
I do not have joy in the deaths of people in 9/11, but I believe they are necessary for positive change; which they have been.

You can call me whatever you want but at least I care about what someone does, not who is doing it.
The fact you do that proves you lack empathy and makes me question if you actually care about the 9/11 victims at all, of course you will say you do but words are easy to write aren't they.

We both know if you could answer those questions you would.
That is not to say they cannot be answered tho.

Why do you think anyone gives a flying F#ck whether you stay or go.
Do what you will.
Why do you require our approval anyway?

Stop being a drama queen and don't break the rules.

You won't have a problem.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Why do you think anyone gives a flying F#ck whether you stay or go. Do what you will. Why do you require our approval anyway?

Lets face it, if certain people could answer one of those questions they would do it in a heart beat.. This is not to say they cannot be answered tho.
Not looking for approval just trying to prove a point that no matter how much people avoid will always be true.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Stop being a drama queen and don't break the rules. You won't have a problem.

Yes keep sticking up for them..

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Why do you think anyone gives a flying F#ck whether you stay or go. Do what you will. Why do you require our approval anyway?

perfectly said.

stop being a child and behave or go away.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:43pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:28pm: Why do you think anyone gives a flying F#ck whether you stay or go. Do what you will. Why do you require our approval anyway? perfectly said. stop being a child and beave or go away.

Hahahaha because if you could answer one of those questions you wouldn't do it would you.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

- You can differentiate between Israel and Nazi Germany, or admit they are the same.

Yes Israel is a democratic government were as Nazi Germany was a totalitarian state.


bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

- You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same.

Yes fairy tales always have happy endings, religion doesn't


bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

- You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do.

Well now they call in police, they didn't 20 to 30 years ago, but a lot of things were different back then.

Move on

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:47pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm: - You can differentiate between Israel and Nazi Germany, or admit they are the same. Yes Israel is a democratic government were as Nazi Germany was a totalitarian state. bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm: - You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same. Yes fairy tales always have happy endings, religion doesn't bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm: - You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do. Well now they call in police, they didn't 20 to 30 years ago, but a lot of things were different back then. Move on

Hahaha yes the voting seems to do a lot seeming they head the same direction no matter what politician leads them. While Jews in Israel may have a bit more say the people they oppress do not, much like in Nazi Germany.

Most fairy tales do not have happy endings, in fact they are often based on horrible real life things.

The church hardly ever hands pedos over to the cops.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:50pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:47pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm: - You can differentiate between Israel and Nazi Germany, or admit they are the same. Yes Israel is a democratic government were as Nazi Germany was a totalitarian state. bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm: - You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same. Yes fairy tales always have happy endings, religion doesn't bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm: - You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do. Well now they call in police, they didn't 20 to 30 years ago, but a lot of things were different back then. Move on Hahaha yes the voting seems to do a lot seeming they head the same direction no matter what politician leads them. While Jews in Israel may have a bit more say the people they oppress do not, much like in Nazi Germany. Most fairy tales do not have happy endings, in fact they are often based on horrible real life things. The church hardly ever hands pedos over to the cops.

you basically get everything wrong. is it a natural skill or did you train for it?

as smithy said, nazi germany and Israel are vastly different governments. and dismissing religion as fairy tales is only a valid statement if you know pretty much EVERYTHING and you of all people demonstrate just how LITTLE you know.  and your 'pedo' thing makes YOU look a little suspect as well as more than a little naive.  where is your criticising of the boy scouts? or the ALP or ANY group that has affiliate with children. did it ever occur to your teenage mind that pedos may have targeted groups that work with children?? no of course not. you are an idiot.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:50pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:47pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm: - You can differentiate between Israel and Nazi Germany, or admit they are the same. Yes Israel is a democratic government were as Nazi Germany was a totalitarian state. bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm: - You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same. Yes fairy tales always have happy endings, religion doesn't bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm: - You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do. Well now they call in police, they didn't 20 to 30 years ago, but a lot of things were different back then. Move on Hahaha yes the voting seems to do a lot seeming they head the same direction no matter what politician leads them. While Jews in Israel may have a bit more say the people they oppress do not, much like in Nazi Germany. Most fairy tales do not have happy endings, in fact they are often based on horrible real life things. The church hardly ever hands pedos over to the cops.

Jews were stripped of voting rights in Nazi Germany and then later stripped of the same rights as non-Jew Germans in every walk of life.

In Israel -

According to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics, the Arab population in 2010 was estimated at 1,573,000, representing 20.4% of the country's population.

The majority of these identify themselves as Arab or Palestinian by nationality and Israeli by citizenship.

Many have family ties to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, as well as to Palestinian refugees in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. Negev Bedouins tend to identify more as Israelis than other Arab citizens of Israel.

Most of the Arabs living in East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel since the Six-Day War of 1967, were offered Israeli citizenship, but refused, not wanting to recognize Israeli sovereignty.

They became permanent residents.
They are entitled to municipal services and have municipal voting rights

There are three mainstream Arab parties in Israel: Hadash (a joint Arab-Jewish party with a large Arab presence), Balad, and the United Arab List, which is a coalition of several different political organizations including the Islamic Movement in Israel. In addition to these, there is Ta'al.

All of these parties primarily represent Arab-Israeli and Palestinian interests, and the Islamic Movement is an Islamist organization with two factions: one which opposes Israel's existence, and another which opposes its existence as a Jewish state. Two Arab parties ran in Israel's first election in 1949, with one, the Democratic List of Nazareth, winning two seats.

Until the 1960s all Arab parties in the Knesset were aligned with Mapai, the ruling party.

A minority of Arabs join and vote for Zionist parties; in the 2006 elections 30% of the Arab vote went to such parties, up from 25% in 2003, though down on the 1999 (30.5%) and 1996 elections (33.4%).

Left-wing parties (i.e. Labor Party and Meretz-Yachad, and previously One Nation) are the most popular parties amongst Arabs, though some Druze have also voted for right-wing parties such as Likud and Yisrael Beiteinu, as well as the centrist Kadima

Arab Israelis enjoy full voting rights for Knesset elections alongside other non-Arab citizens.

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you basically get everything wrong. is it a natural skill or did you train for it? as smithy said, nazi germany and Israel are vastly different governments. and dismissing religion as fairy tales is only a valid statement if you know pretty much EVERYTHING and you of all people demonstrate just how LITTLE you know.  and your 'pedo' thing makes YOU look a little suspect as well as more than a little naive.  where is your criticising of the boy scouts? or the ALP or ANY group that has affiliate with children. did it ever occur to your teenage mind that pedos may have targeted groups that work with children?? no of course not. you are an idiot.

Hmm well if I am wrong surely you can provide something other then opinion to back up your claims..

We are not talking about how the Germans go treated you twat, we are talking about the people they oppressed and how it is the same as how Israel oppresses people.

I would love for you to point out a significant difference between religion and fairy tales.

The fact you continue to deny that the church supports pedos makes people like you look very suspicious.

My problem is not with pedos, because they are everywhere.. But people who protect them.

You continue to piss in the wind, never a proper answer and always a lot of baseless opinion if that.

Wow Andrei how nice of them to give them a choice on which dictator kills their family

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:24pm:

I do not have joy in the deaths of people in 9/11, but I believe they are necessary for positive change; which they have been.

Would you approve torture if it resulted in positive change or a positive outcome (thank you Susan Ryan)?

The tykes certainly used every means at theyr disposal to cover up and rotate pedophile preists. The curren pope, that Rat-Singer, in his previous brief was responsible for telling church authorities to threaten angry parents with excommunication if they went to the police. Sweet guy.

They're probably doing it a lot tless, now that the victims are somewhat more empowered, but I dare say it still goes on (the covering up)

Toodlloo then!   :D

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:24pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:17pm: I think people just object to anti-semitism and showing joy at the deaths of people in 9/11. It just makes you a generally nasty human being. Whether you stay or don't on here, I couldn't give a monkeys. I am not anti semitic I just do not support the killing of innocent people. I do not have joy in the deaths of people in 9/11, but I believe they are necessary for positive change; which they have been. You can call me whatever you want but at least I care about what someone does, not who is doing it. The fact you do that proves you lack empathy and makes me question if you actually care about the 9/11 victims at all, of course you will say you do but words are easy to write aren't they. We both know if you could answer those questions you would. That is not to say they cannot be answered tho.

PP don't feel so bad, nobody seems to answer my question on compulsory super either.
Most of my posts about finances seem to stop people on this forum in their tracks and I,am no financial guru.

Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away.

I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction?

It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH
sides) under a bit more control.

I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example?

**Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks
from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.**

Hawil, you could print my entire financial knowledge in 24pt caps on the back of a
stamp, so, apart from the odd general observation, I usually refrain from posting
on such matters.

Unlike some, I don't usually weigh-in on topics that I know very little about.

Kat wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away. I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction? It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH sides) under a bit more control. I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example? **Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.**

Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened.

It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result.

Welcome to the rabble.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Stop being a drama queen and don't break the rules. You won't have a problem.

Are there rule on this site? hell never noticed ;)

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

- You can differentiate between Israel and Nazi Germany, or admit they are the same. - You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same. - You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do. Only need one of them and I am gone forever. Obviously this applies to certain members and the admitting part needs to be genuine. Obviously most of you do not want me here and this is an easy and fair way to get rid of me, I am not asking much at all. Yes I get angry about stuff but mainly because you people continue to deny reality, replacing genuine answers with politician like spin. I wouldn't care so much if you people could just admit the obvious, acknowledgment is the first key to fixing a problem. I will say it again: Most of you people do not care what someone does but WHO is doing it. This proves that you lack real empathy and makes me question if you care about other people at all unless it can better yourself. So I am waiting...

Come on PP, you are letting the loops get to you. Just ignore them and post what you want. This is expression no one has to agree with you and if backing down when you are wrong or don't have an answer was a rule we would all be up sh1t creek.

nairbe wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 6:28pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:28pm: Stop being a drama queen and don't break the rules. You won't have a problem. Are there rule on this site? hell never noticed ;)

it is pretty hard to tell thats for sure.

Come on Political Puppet...don't spit the dummy. I had my nose pulled by the moderator only a week or so ago and I bloody well deserved it.

Move on, it's all a mind thing.

I decided to stop throwing the cheap shots back when someone gave me a low one.

And...I feel I am writing with more integrity because of it.

Doesn't mean I don't get pissed off and have a go...just trying to eliminate, the 'Cheap Shots'.

Hang around pal, I like going toe to toe with you!

borntorule wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 6:19pm:

Kat wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm: Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away. I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction? It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH sides) under a bit more control. I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example? **Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.** Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened. It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result. Welcome to the rabble.

Borntorule - hahahahaha, it's not hard to see where you're coming from. There's no rabble here just different sorts of people with differing viewpoints.

There's lots of different socialist countries in the past and present. It doesn't appear problematic to lump them all together at times. Nazi Germany and Israel are different in some ways and alike in others. It all depends how you view Naziism. The Nazi party didn't start off with extermination camps they worked their way towards them.

They started off doing wonderful things with the economy. You appoint a guy like Avigdor Liebermann to be Foreign Minister and deputy PM you have to be sailing pretty close to being a Nazi imo.

Grey wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:19pm: Kat wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm: Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away. I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction? It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH sides) under a bit more control. I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example? **Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.** Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened. It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result. Welcome to the rabble. Borntorule - hahahahaha, it's not hard to see where you're coming from. There's no rabble here just different sorts of people with differing viewpoints. There's lots of different socialist countries in the past and present. It doesn't appear problematic to lump them all together at times. Nazi Germany and Israel are different in some ways and alike in others. It all depends how you view Naziism. The Nazi party didn't start off with extermination camps they worked their way towards them. They started off doing wonderful things with the economy. You appoint a guy like Avigdor Liebermann to be Foreign Minister and deputy PM you have to be sailing pretty close to being a Nazi imo.

Any even half-way rational comparison of Nazi Germany and Israel would come off saying that they are vastly different. In fact, anyone who says they are does nothing but look like a fool. Two governments separated by 70 years with one or two policies the same is hardly a demonstration of equivalence.

And when the same people who make these comparisons ignore the plethora of dictators and despots around the world who make a far more compelling parallel, then they lose almost all credibility. You dont have to support Israel to mock the comparison. You only need to have a modicom of logic and balance and it looks increasingly ridiculous.

Grey wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:19pm: Kat wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm: Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away. I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction? It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH sides) under a bit more control. I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example? **Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.** Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened. It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result. Welcome to the rabble. Borntorule - hahahahaha, it's not hard to see where you're coming from. There's no rabble here just different sorts of people with differing viewpoints. There's lots of different socialist countries in the past and present. It doesn't appear problematic to lump them all together at times. Nazi Germany and Israel are different in some ways and alike in others. It all depends how you view Naziism. The Nazi party didn't start off with extermination camps they worked their way towards them. They started off doing wonderful things with the economy. You appoint a guy like Avigdor Liebermann to be Foreign Minister and deputy PM you have to be sailing pretty close to being a Nazi imo.

I did not support Liebermann but he is NOT a Nazi.

borntorule wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

Grey wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:37pm: borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:19pm: Kat wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm: Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away. I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction? It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH sides) under a bit more control. I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example? **Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.** Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened. It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result. Welcome to the rabble. Borntorule - hahahahaha, it's not hard to see where you're coming from. There's no rabble here just different sorts of people with differing viewpoints. There's lots of different socialist countries in the past and present. It doesn't appear problematic to lump them all together at times. Nazi Germany and Israel are different in some ways and alike in others. It all depends how you view Naziism. The Nazi party didn't start off with extermination camps they worked their way towards them. They started off doing wonderful things with the economy. You appoint a guy like Avigdor Liebermann to be Foreign Minister and deputy PM you have to be sailing pretty close to being a Nazi imo. Any even half-way rational comparison of Nazi Germany and Israel would come off saying that they are vastly different. In fact, anyone who says they are does nothing but look like a fool. Two governments separated by 70 years with one or two policies the same is hardly a demonstration of equivalence. And when the same people who make these comparisons ignore the plethora of dictators and despots around the world who make a far more compelling parallel, then they lose almost all credibility. You dont have to support Israel to mock the comparison. You only need to have a modicom of logic and balance and it looks increasingly ridiculous.

As far as I can see theres only 1 thing the same. They are treating the palestinians the same way the germans did to them.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 6:59pm:

borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:51pm: Grey wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:37pm: borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:19pm: Kat wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm: Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away. I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction? It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH sides) under a bit more control. I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example? **Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.** Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened. It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result. Welcome to the rabble. Borntorule - hahahahaha, it's not hard to see where you're coming from. There's no rabble here just different sorts of people with differing viewpoints. There's lots of different socialist countries in the past and present. It doesn't appear problematic to lump them all together at times. Nazi Germany and Israel are different in some ways and alike in others. It all depends how you view Naziism. The Nazi party didn't start off with extermination camps they worked their way towards them. They started off doing wonderful things with the economy. You appoint a guy like Avigdor Liebermann to be Foreign Minister and deputy PM you have to be sailing pretty close to being a Nazi imo. Any even half-way rational comparison of Nazi Germany and Israel would come off saying that they are vastly different. In fact, anyone who says they are does nothing but look like a fool. Two governments separated by 70 years with one or two policies the same is hardly a demonstration of equivalence. And when the same people who make these comparisons ignore the plethora of dictators and despots around the world who make a far more compelling parallel, then they lose almost all credibility. You dont have to support Israel to mock the comparison. You only need to have a modicom of logic and balance and it looks increasingly ridiculous. As far as I can see theres only 1 thing the same. They are treating the palestinians the same way the germans did to them. SOB

shooting, gassing and committing genocide? Do you want to rethink that assessment before you end up labelled as 'not very bright'?

That comment is offensive to Jewish people.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:05pm:

That comment is offensive to Jewish people.

It's not really 'offensive'. You cant really get offended by something/someone so obviously and excessively wrong. You just nod and smile and look around for their carer.

Well shooting and calling for genocide. Havent got to the gassing yet as far as I know. How many palestinainas are locked up in jewish cells forever?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:08pm:

Well shooting and calling for genocide. Havent got to the gassing yet as far as I know. How many palestinainas are locked up in jewish cells forever? SOB

Palestinians who are found guilty of terrorism are in jail.
What was Shalit crime to be hostage for many years?

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:05pm:

That comment is offensive to Jewish people.

What israel is doing is offensive. I never mentioned jewish ppl. I mentioned a country. When ppl talk about countries they generally mean the government. Is it okay to talk about the american government and what they are doing? Then why not yours?

The only reason israel is getting away with any of this is because of religion. And the powers of israel know this and use it to thier advantage feigning "offense" @ any criticism.

SOB

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:10pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:08pm: Well shooting and calling for genocide. Havent got to the gassing yet as far as I know. How many palestinainas are locked up in jewish cells forever? SOB Palestinians who are found guilty of terrorism are in jail. What was Shalit crime to be hostage for many years?

He was a soldier. Israeli soldiers kill palestinains. How many ppl have you got that havent had a trial? How long until they get one? And what kind of trials are they?

SOB

Israel is defending from attack.

Criticism of Israel but not criticism of the Arab aggression is because of anti-semitism. We know this that is why there is this talk.

Israel is democratic, free country but is Jewish state and Muslims hate this.

Well you know some thing we will defend the country with every last Jew on this holy land.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:11pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:05pm: That comment is offensive to Jewish people. What israel is doing is offensive. I never mentioned jewish ppl. I mentioned a country. When ppl talk about countries they generally mean the government. Is it okay to talk about the american government and what they are doing? Then why not yours? The only reason israel is getting away with any of this is because of religion. And the powers of israel know this and use it to thier advantage feigning "offense" @ any criticism. SOB

You compared the treatment of palestinians to the Holocaust. That is pretty much the equivalent of putting your hand up in class and saying "I dont understand the question".

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:15pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:10pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:08pm: Well shooting and calling for genocide. Havent got to the gassing yet as far as I know. How many palestinainas are locked up in jewish cells forever? SOB Palestinians who are found guilty of terrorism are in jail. What was Shalit crime to be hostage for many years? He was a soldier. Israeli soldiers kill palestinains. How many ppl have you got that havent had a trial? How long until they get one? And what kind of trials are they? SOB

I was a soldier. I did not kill Palestinians.
It is not a crime to be national service.

You know how he captured? They dig tunnel and arrive from behind.
Cowards. Like when I was in Gaza. They throw rocks but then run away from us. Cowards.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:16pm:

Israel is defending from attack. Criticism of Israel but not criticism of the Arab aggression is because of anti-semitism. We know this that is why there is this talk. Israel is democratic, free country but is Jewish state and Muslims hate this. Well you know some thing we will defend the country with every last Jew on this holy land.

Israel caused the "attack" in the first place by trying to take what little the palestinains already have and building settlements on thier land. Israels so-called "Defense" is disproportionate.

Holy land. Its all about religion.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:20pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:16pm: Israel is defending from attack. Criticism of Israel but not criticism of the Arab aggression is because of anti-semitism. We know this that is why there is this talk. Israel is democratic, free country but is Jewish state and Muslims hate this. Well you know some thing we will defend the country with every last Jew on this holy land. Israel caused the "attack" in the first place by trying to take what little the palestinains already have and building settlements on thier land. Israels so-called "Defense" is disproportionate. Holy land. Its all about religion. SOB

1967 where is the settlements when we are attacked by three country?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:15pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:10pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:08pm: Well shooting and calling for genocide. Havent got to the gassing yet as far as I know. How many palestinainas are locked up in jewish cells forever? SOB Palestinians who are found guilty of terrorism are in jail. What was Shalit crime to be hostage for many years? He was a soldier. Israeli soldiers kill palestinains. How many ppl have you got that havent had a trial? How long until they get one? And what kind of trials are they? SOB

There are special laws for people that fire missiles at school buses. Its similar to the 'nobody cares what happens to them'. Anyone that targets and kills children for political aims deserves anything and everything that comes down upon them. Sympathy level: zero.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:10pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:08pm: Well shooting and calling for genocide. Havent got to the gassing yet as far as I know. How many palestinainas are locked up in jewish cells forever? SOB Palestinians who are found guilty of terrorism are in jail. What was Shalit crime to be hostage for many years?

Quote indefinite detention without charge /End Quote

Guilty of not being a jew in a apartheid state.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

- You can differentiate between Israel and Nazi Germany, or admit they are the same. - You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same. - You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do. Only need one of them and I am gone forever. Obviously this applies to certain members and the admitting part needs to be genuine. Obviously most of you do not want me here and this is an easy and fair way to get rid of me, I am not asking much at all. Yes I get angry about stuff but mainly because you people continue to deny reality, replacing genuine answers with politician like spin. I wouldn't care so much if you people could just admit the obvious, acknowledgment is the first key to fixing a problem. I will say it again: Most of you people do not care what someone does but WHO is doing it. This proves that you lack real empathy and makes me question if you care about other people at all unless it can better yourself. So I am waiting...

I support you -
don't leave because of a few losers like Longweekend.

borntorule wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:15pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:10pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:08pm: Well shooting and calling for genocide. Havent got to the gassing yet as far as I know. How many palestinainas are locked up in jewish cells forever? SOB Palestinians who are found guilty of terrorism are in jail. What was Shalit crime to be hostage for many years? He was a soldier. Israeli soldiers kill palestinains. How many ppl have you got that havent had a trial? How long until they get one? And what kind of trials are they? SOB There are special laws for people that fire missiles at school buses. Its similar to the 'nobody cares what happens to them'. Anyone that targets and kills children for political aims deserves anything and everything that comes down upon them. Sympathy level: zero.

does that rule also apply to bulldozing down family homes with people in them ?

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

madweekend will never criticise the church and the pedophiles that infiltrate it simply because they have guaranteed him a gold pass to heaven and he is indebt to them for the rest of his life because of one random medical cure :D LOL

Pedophiles that infiltrate the church need help and the church can't help them which is why the whole thing is ridiculous. The church needs to stop protecting people they can't help. These people need to see a psychologist or psychiatrist for their problems. If you're sick, you go and see a doctor. God for the most part is just an eye in the sky.


bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 1:01pm:

We are not talking about how the Germans go treated you twat, we are talking about the people they oppressed and how it is the same as how Israel oppresses people.

Israel never put anyone in gas chambers, so how is that comparison valid?

- You can differentiate between Israel and Nazi Germany, or admit they are the same.

Yes.

Israel has learned and developed a policy to protect themselves from being wiped off the planet. They don't seek to dominate the world by military means. Some might say they have commercial means. Israel is using agression as a way to survive.

Nazi Germany learned that by demonising the Jew and arguing for a pure blood German state that the German blood was superior and should rule the planet. They did seek to dominate the world. Germany was using agression as a way to ensure the German people survive at the expense of others.

- You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same.

Yes - they are similar
Religion is a Fairy Tale that was originally designed to show how people should live and became a way to control the masses. Religion and the state were always linked until modern times in the west.

Fary Tales are designed to show young people some of the lessons in life that they need to know as early as they can in a way they can understand.

Both are like Fairy Tales.... great storys to share that could help one understand how to live in a society which can be complex.

- You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do.

Define church. Do you mean Catholics?

All churches look after their own as a culture.

I don't think they support pedophilia however they have in the past supported those who have committed this sin and kept it from a countries legal system. Remember Christians believe all you have to do is say you are sorry and god will forgive you of your sins. Church law has similar views.

In the cases of hiding a pedoplile from the law, I think they have support these individual pedophiles.

The issue is that the full application of the law of a land is not being abidded by the church. They are use to being above such laws.

Jews declared war on Germany in 1933

Jews claimed the '6 million' in 1919

Jews reap kosher tax on the alleged 99% of us who are not jews and they reap it from virtually every consumer on every consumer item

I've seen Foxman dragging his lard-arse around the world, stuffing his face.  I've seen the documentaries where Foxman and ADL were asked to come up with sufficient anti-semitism to justify the ADLs existence and they were scratching until they finally came up with an example so weak, even Foxman's offsiders were embarrassed as hell

Political Puppet, you might mean that organized religion has hypocritically covered-up paedophiles within its ranks and moved them around to hide them and sure, that would be regarded by most as condoning paedophilia, whether or not that was the intention.  I doubt anyone would argue that with you.  And organized religion includes clergy in all religions, paedophiles in all religions, some worse than others.  Added to those, we have paedophiles within men's organisations, within all groups, neighbourhoods, schools, workplaces, even families.  It's a problem which isn't reserved to the clergy.  I know you acknowledge this ...

Religion itself however is a personal matter.  You know this as well.  Maybe in your anger over continuing paedophilia, you provoke people by bad-mouthing their religion in the hope you will spur them to 'stamp out' paedophilia

What you need to realise is that you're not Robinson Crusoe.  You don't have a monopoly on outrage, anger, disgust, impatience for the evils of the world to be eradicated.  All around you, and in this forum, are people who are just as saddened, disgusted, outraged.  But they don't try to provoke others.  Whereas you do

So by all means, continue to agitate about matters of concern to you.  But grow up, and I mean that literally, and accept that stamping around with your bottom lip out, insulting left and right, is doing you nor your cause any good

It gets old.  This is a small forum.  If you still want to believe that insulting people's beliefs and throwing dummy spits is the way to 'fix everything', then logic dictates you do your stamping and insulting in the biggest fora you can find.  That way, you'll have a wider audience to insult and tire

Otherwise, stop carrying on in fora and get out there in the real world and become active in addressing all the things you want to see 'fixed'.  You'll find you're just one of many.  And they're not making a song and dance about it.  They're slogging away, putting one foot before the other, being knocked two steps back and taking it on the chin before getting on their feet and doing it all over again

We can't 'fix' things for you, any more than you can 'fix' them, obviously

Stay.  Or go.  Your choice.  Same choice we all have

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Israel has learned and developed a policy to protect themselves from being wiped off the planet. They don't seek to dominate the world by military means. Some might say they have commercial means. Israel is using agression as a way to survive.

That is an excuse and the only reason some countries except that excuse is because of religion. They are scared thier god will strike them down if they dont support israel. Israel knows this and uses it to advantage.

Israel tries to settle where they shouldn't and their "defense" is disproportionate.

SOB

Mnemonic wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:33pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:19pm: madweekend will never criticise the church and the pedophiles that infiltrate it simply because they have guaranteed him a gold pass to heaven and he is indebt to them for the rest of his life because of one random medical cure :D LOL Pedophiles that infiltrate the church need help and the church can't help them which is why the whole thing is ridiculous. The church needs to stop protecting people they can't help. These people need to see a psychologist or psychiatrist for their problems. If you're sick, you go and see a doctor. God for the most part is just an eye in the sky. bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 1:01pm: We are not talking about how the Germans go treated you twat, we are talking about the people they oppressed and how it is the same as how Israel oppresses people. Israel never put anyone in gas chambers, so how is that comparison valid?

Unlike the Nazis, Zionists have not yet faced total defeat. But Israel has atomic weapons, so it doesn't need gas chambers for a 'final solution'. Faced with defeat would Israel shirk from using atomics?

I don't think so.

Come to that, if the Zionists faced total defeat, I wouldn't expect to find many Palestinians in Israeli jails looking the picture of health either.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:05pm:

That comment is offensive to Jewish people.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/funny-animal-captions-animal-capshunz-you-have-offended-me-sir.jpg

SOB

(joke)

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

- You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same. - You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do.

So why do you support Islam muppet?

Mohammad was a pedophile and child brides are rampant in the Islamic world are you concerned about this or only worried about the jewish-christian pedophiles?

Do you think you would have more credibility if you didnt give Islam a free pass while being critical of all beliefs?

The lyrics in this video are about pedophilia-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQmv7XLWlxw

Muslims will claim it is not pedophilia if you marry a child, they like to redefine words.
http://news.change.org/stories/movement-against-child-marriages-picks-up-steam-in-saudi-arabia

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 12:24pm:

I am not anti semitic 1/ I just do not support the killing of innocent people. 2/ I do not have joy in the deaths of people in 9/11, but I believe they are necessary for positive change; which they have been.

Your 2 statements above, express opposing sentiments.

How do you function as a human being ???


1/ I ....do not support the killing of innocent people.

2/ the deaths of [innocent] people [in 9/11],....I believe......are necessary for positive change;


Google;
cognitive dissonance



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Cognitive dissonance is a psychological term to define the condition that results whenever an individual attempts to hold two incompatible, if not contradictory, thoughts at the same time even in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance




pp

You should convert to ISLAM.

With your cognitive dissonance, you would fit right in.

"We are moslems.
1/ We moslems are righteous.
2/ Let us kill unbelievers who refuse to submit to us."

<----- .....and that is the essence of ISLAMIC doctrine.

1/ & 2/ = = the cognitive dissonance expressed by moslems






The Koran.....

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29