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Title: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by imcrookonit on Apr 28th, 2012 at 6:37am
Top earners' super break slashed
Michelle Grattan and Clancy Yeates April 28, 2012 TOP income earners will have their tax concession for superannuation slashed in half, saving $1 billion to help the bottom line in next month's tough budget. The July 1 change, hitting only those who earn more than $300,000, will reduce the tax concession wealthy taxpayers receive on their super contributions from 30 per cent to 15 per cent. :) Under the present system, the top 1 per cent of income earners would receive an average concession on their super contribution of $7350 in 2012-13. Their concession will fall to $3675 under the change. Those who earn more than $300,000 comprise 1.2 per cent of those contributing to superannuation. For all contributors on less than $300,000, current arrangements will continue, so someone on $295,000 would still be receiving the 30 per cent concession. Superannuation Minister Bill Shorten said that while the government believed superannuation should be concessionally taxed it was clear a small number of high income earners ''are getting a better deal out of super than millions of Australians on average incomes''. :( ''That's why we are making the system fairer by ensuring that the tax incentives for super are more in line across income ranges.'' A contributor on average full-time earnings (about $69,000) will receive in 2012-13 an average concession of $1670, which is a 17.5 per cent tax break. A minimum wage earner on $31,000 will receive a concession of $690 (a 19 per cent tax break). This is partly funded by the government, from the mining tax, which starts on July 1. It is understood the savings over the four-year budget period are mostly garnered in later years. Despite the change, there would still be a tax incentive for high income earners, Mr Shorten said. He reiterated that the budget would reflect ''Labor values'' . ''This means looking after low and middle income families, so they're not subsidising huge tax breaks for the very highest income earners.'' The Howard government had a superannuation surcharge from 1996 to 2005. Mr Shorten said Tony Abbott and the Liberals had gone into bat for the billionaires by opposing the mining tax and for the millionaires to protect their private health insurance rebate. :( ''If Mr Abbott goes into bat for the top 1 per cent of income earners to protect their massively higher tax breaks, it'll be the final proof he's betrayed the ordinary working families''. The government yesterday unveiled a plan to force super funds to reveal the pay of their top executives and publish more detailed information about how members' retirement savings are invested. Mr Shorten said he was also considering laws that would require fund managers - who are often external from super funds - to disclose their pay. Fund managers can earn between $500,000 and several million dollars a year for investing members' money, but their pay packets are a closely guarded secret. ''We've increased super from 9 to 12 per cent, but we don't want to see that all frittered away by fund managers clipping the ticket on the way through on people's retirement earnings,'' Mr Shorten said. ;) He also said the proportion of female board directors in the nation's $1.3 trillion superannuation industry should be doubled to 40 per cent in the next 10 years. About 20 per cent of super board members today were women, Mr Shorten said.While he did not support a binding quota, he said there was clearly room for improvement. ''I think the industry should agree to set an aspirational target of 40 per cent of directors over the next 10 years,'' he said. Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/top-earners-super-break-slashed-20120427-1xqkz.html#ixzz1tH6O3c7C |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by progressiveslol on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:07am
The thread heading has no bearing on the subject matter. I take it you have some other text to paste.
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Guildford on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:16am progressiveslol wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:07am:
The OP is quoting Shorten, not even Gratten would say that. It seems to be a ministerial instruction of late. Use Abbott and Billionaire in the same sentance as often as you can. Just as the opposition uses 'big new tax' at any and every chance. Fortunately most voters ignore it. Only the zealots get excited, while the rest just yawn. Pollies really should ask the voters what they think of their methods. |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Dnarever on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:39am progressiveslol wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:07am:
Tony Abbott and the Liberals had gone into bat for the billionaires by opposing the mining tax and for the millionaires to protect their private health insurance rebate. Its in the text? - A lot closer than Macca ever gets to the topic. |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Andrei.Hicks on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:42am Dnarever wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:39am:
You have to be a category A idiot by thinking the private health insurance rebate matters at all to billionaires. Taking that away is a cruel blow to those of us in the middle incomes. The billionaires wouldn't give a toss but those of us struggling through on mortgages, school fees, high already tax, high energy bills - this is another cruel grab off of us. |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by imcrookonit on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:56am
Whats cruel about it?. It doesn't even take affect, unless people earn over $80k. What about people that would like private health, that cant even afford it?. :(
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by cods on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:57am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:42am:
it will be the same with the CARBON TAX andrei.. I am sure Rineheart and mates are not going to fall over about their power increases...nor will it make them turn a light bulb off..or drive a smaller car.. it wont happen.. any tax increase is hardly a problem for them... however if we dont acknowledge the contribution these people do make to our system we will drive them off shore...where I am sure they already have a stash put away somewhere far from the clutches of the australian tax man.. I am sure I would do the same if I was in their shoes....we are taxed to death in this country..and we all know its a crime to be a billionaire. unless you are a member of the underworld that is. |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Andrei.Hicks on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:58am wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:56am:
They could get a job and pay for it like the rest of us Imcrook. |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by imcrookonit on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:00am
There are plenty of people with jobs, that cant afford private health insurance. :(
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Andrei.Hicks on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:01am wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:00am:
Yeah but they are sh*t people Imcrook.... ;) |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Dnarever on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:03am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:01am:
I thought that all sh*t people worked in finance? |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by progressiveslol on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:06am Dnarever wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:39am:
Well when you have an incompetent member of an incompetent government rattle on about the opposition in such a nonsensical way, then I suppose you can expect their followers to do the same. |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Dnarever on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:11am progressiveslol wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:06am:
It's only one line in the story and it is accurate. |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Dnarever on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:14am
Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires.
He opens the Batting for the Billionairs and regularly scores 300 before the Lunch break. You should see his bowling figures against the unemployed, pensioners and disabled or minority groups. |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by progressiveslol on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:15am Dnarever wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:14am:
Exactly the nonsensical dribble I was referring to |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Andrei.Hicks on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:19am Dnarever wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:14am:
Whereas the Labor party have an awesome record of late helping out the less well off eh? Didn't they give pensioners a $30 increase and politicians $90? |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Dnarever on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:28am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:19am:
In the Howard term didn't the pensioners get nothing and the politicians got thousands? |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Andrei.Hicks on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:29am Dnarever wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:28am:
Pointing elsewhere is the sign of an inability to defend the action. Tell me - do you think politicians should have received three times the pensioners? |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Dnarever on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:55am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 8:29am:
You didn't notice that your post was the first pointing elsewhere? |
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Prevailing on Apr 28th, 2012 at 9:23am
Tony Abbott does not want to associate himself with the disastrously failed open borders migration and importation programs of the Gillard Government. The electorate will turn on him very quickly if he does.
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Title: Re: Tony Abbott Gone Into Bat For The Billionaires. Post by Dnarever on Apr 28th, 2012 at 9:33am Prevailing wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 9:23am:
The rhetoric would support your statement but is actions in opposing off shore processing to be allowed sure points the other way. On this topic like many others it is only a case of opportunism from Tnoy. He will not call a DD simply because it would cost him seats if he does. |
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