Now the media is complaining about Slipper filling out a cabcharge voucher for around $75.
Crikey I log up more than that on single cabcharge vouchers just going to various airports.
It looks like the junk media has started anther feeding frenzy.

The overriding view I take when we do internal audits is that fraud is fraud.

Whether it is $10 or $100,000.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

Now the media is complaining about Slipper filling out a cabcharge voucher for around $75. Crikey I log up more than that on single cabcharge vouchers just going to various airports. It looks like the junk media has started anther feeding frenzy.

Like dumb animals their primal instinct is to circle and attack the wounded. Truth and decency are superfluous to their requirement. Look at James Murdoch's testimony over night, the Government is now looking pretty ordinary and phone hacking might yet be minor.

If there wasn't anything for the media to eat off the slipper carcass, they would move on to another.

Maybe he shouldn't have done what he is alleged to have done.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:55am:

The overriding view I take when we do internal audits is that fraud is fraud. Whether it is $10 or $100,000.

How is filling out a cabcharge fraud?
If thats the case Ive defrauded my business partners of thousands of dollars worth of cabcharges over just the last 12 mths.
For the media to even suggest that a $75 cabcharge is excessive is ridiculous and is just playing to an ignorant audiences bloodlust.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:55am:

The overriding view I take when we do internal audits is that fraud is fraud. Whether it is $10 or $100,000.

were not talking about an audit .. were talking about trial by media ...

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 9:55am: The overriding view I take when we do internal audits is that fraud is fraud. Whether it is $10 or $100,000. were not talking about an audit .. were talking about trial by media ...

Yes the audit will be the thing the media calls rubbish and a setup. As will the civil case that will almost certainly be thrown out like a great % of all such cases.

We need people like Slipper so we can point our fingers & say:

he's a bad guy.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

We need people like Slipper so we can point our fingers & say: he's a bad guy.

And thereby divert attention away from our bad-guys..... ;)

If Slipper was still a good little LNP member none of this would have come to light.
Like putting Pauline Hanson in jail and undermining the economy and the elected govt its all about Abbott spitting the dummy..nothing more nothing less.

As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all.

SOB

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 9:55am: The overriding view I take when we do internal audits is that fraud is fraud. Whether it is $10 or $100,000. How is filling out a cabcharge fraud? If thats the case Ive defrauded my business partners of thousands of dollars worth of cabcharges over just the last 12 mths. For the media to even suggest that a $75 cabcharge is excessive is ridiculous and is just playing to an ignorant audiences bloodlust.

I hope thats not the cabcharge in T'ville he signed for when he was in fact in Canberra???


as it is... he had a cabcharge for $160.. no destination was mentioned...

can you imagine what this man is spending now he can still use his full entitlements...

these cabcharges go back to when he was a mere MP..

I am glad you dont think they should answer to a $75 claim they have made...

I am sure you will forgive all those poor people who claim centrelink whilst washing car windscreens and go down and fight for them when they are caught out by the tax office..

yeah I am sure you do!

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all.SOB

And it gets people's attention away from the real issues.

As is probably the intent.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB

a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable...

bloody hell

why do we bother?

Kat wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all.SOB And it gets people's attention away from the real issues. As is probably the intent.

for someone who raves on constantly about money for the great unemployed... and you agree with this...


>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

unbelievable.!!!

cods wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother?

Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB

No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for.
The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags

This is SLOP......Standard Liberal Operating Procedure.....

Full article here.....
http://sgp1.paddington.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/cover_stories/transcript_1103.asp

The Plot to Destroy Michael Kirby

REPORTER, JOHN LYONS: It's the evening of March 12 this year, Bill Heffernan, the tough-talking farmer and the Prime Minister's enforcer gets to his feet in an almost-abandoned Senate to make one of the most extraordinary speeches in the nation's history.

HEFFERNAN: I have also in my possession Comcar driver records which document and record the same judge using this taxpayer-funded service on a regular basis to pick up from an address known to the police in Clapton Place adjacent to Kings Cross, a young male and accompany him to the judge's home address.

The docket also notes the judge did not travel. The young male was returned unaccompanied.

REPORTER: For 15 minutes Heffernan details the most serious possible allegations against an unnamed judge, knowing that Senate rules mean that he would be forced to sit down if he names any current member of the judiciary.

HEFFERNAN: Mr Acting Deputy President, earlier in this speech I referred to a judge who's come to the attention of the New South Wales police who indiscreetly, improperly and illegally used Comcar, who regularly trawled for rough trade at the Darlinghurst Wall, who according to police statements and interviews regularly played out his fantasies in a fee-for-service arrangement.

REPORTER: It is not until the last five words of the speech that he names the judge.

HEFFERNAN: ... by the Honourable Justice Michael Kirby.

REPORTER: But there was much more to this speech than what happened that night. The attempt to get Michael Kirby had been going for years and Bill Heffernan was not acting alone.

WAYNE PATTERSON, FORMER COMCAR DRIVER: He mentioned to me that he had a lot of very, very high people, you know, all backing him.

REPORTER: Today, Wayne Patterson, the Commonwealth car driver who became embroiled in the three year campaign to bring down Michael Kirby, breaks his silence for the first time, claiming that Bill Heffernan confided in him that John Howard and Attorney-General Daryl Williams had seen the now infamous Comcar document before Heffernan made his speech.

PATTERSON: Senator Heffernan related to me, yes, that he had shown the Prime Minister and Mr Williams the document, which I was quite surprised at.

REPORTER: And he reveals that in an attempt to fend off Bill Heffernan, he destroyed crucial documents.

PATTERSON: I put them away and then I destroyed them and I just couldn't have it any more. I just said, you know, these dockets have got to go so I had to discretely, you know, rip up the evidence and so I did.

MICHAEL KIRBY, HIGH COURT JUDGE: Chief Justice, I have the honour to announce that I have received the commission from His Excellency the Governor-General appointing me a justice of the High Court of Australia. I present my commission.
[End of excerpt]

REPORTER: Michael Kirby was always going to be a lightning rod for the conservatives inside the Howard government. For a start, he'd been appointed by the Keating government, he was a small "l" Liberal and the thing that weighed heavily on Bill Heffernan's mind was that Michael Kirby was openly homosexual.

Kirby angered some conservatives when in his Who's Who entry, he listed a man as his life-long partner. Bill Heffernan was outraged when Michael Kirby spoke at a private boys' school in Sydney two years ago and talked about being gay.

IS THIS MICHAEL KIRBY SPEAKING?: It was at high school that I discovered I was gay. It was a lonely time of denial and secrecy, even from my family. As you grow up, you will meet people who are homosexual. They may be footballers, musicians, truck drivers, judges. You should refuse to go along with the herd mentality that calls them poofters, queers, faggots, or other words of hate. In my experience, few, if any, gay and lesbian people choose their sexuality and if that is how you are, that is how God meant you to be.

REPORTER: Farmer Bill Heffernan had had Michael Kirby in the crosshairs of his gun for years. He'd made no secret of his views of Kirby and had made it his mission to gather any material or rumours he could about the judge.

What [was?] the first that you became aware Bill Heffernan was interested in Michael Kirby?

PATTERSON: Oh, about three years ago, when I was driving the Prime Minister, I'd met Mr Heffernan and, and you know, he'd asked me various questions about particular people and the use of Commonwealth cars and so that was about it, yeah, I knew then.

REPORTER: Patterson says other Comcar drivers came to dread Bill Heffernan.

PATTERSON: Well, yeah, that's a good point. They knew that he would have a grudge to bear in there and would bring up the conversation on these relevant matters. And I think what he kept saying too, that he had evidence against Justice Kirby which I suppose that he, you know, tried to get that to maybe ... to break you down a little bit more, to be easy with him and to go along with the flow [laughs] more than anything.

REPORTER: It was in March 1999 that Bill Heffernan loaded the first bullet into his gun. He made an extraordinary phone call to Michael Kirby's immediate boss, the Chief Justice of Australia, Murray Gleeson. Heffernan told Gleeson he wanted senior New South Wales police officer Mike Woodhouse to brief Gleeson on an investigation being conducted into Michael Kirby.

>:( >:( >:(

Mr Howard was censured by the Senate in March 2002 over his failure to stop Liberal Senator Bill Heffernan's attack on High Court Justice Michael Kirby.

Heffernan apologises to Kirby

Liberal Senator Bill Heffernan has completed his fall from grace, giving an unqualified apology to Justice Michael Kirby for the attack he made on him in Parliament last week. Senator Heffernan admitted he'd damaged Justice Kirby's reputation in the speech, in which he accused the judge of using Commonwealth cars to trawl for male prostitutes. But in a humiliating backdown, the dumped parliamentary secretary to Cabinet accepts the document he relied on to make the allegation had been fabricated by others. Senator Heffernan has also apologised to the Senate, the Parliament, the Prime Minister and his Coalition colleagues, but was censured by the Senate for his abuse of parliamentary privilege.

::) ::) ::)

You can be fairly certain that when a non-story hits the headlines, there's a big issue lerking in the background somewhere. The same old diversion tactics. It could have been the $7 billion to the IMF or maybe something more sinister.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 12:07pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:00pm: cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for. The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags

True, it's common practice. I used to get airfares and cabcharges when I was attending union meetings/training in the city. The cab fares can be extreme for short distances in peak hour traffic.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 9:55am: The overriding view I take when we do internal audits is that fraud is fraud. Whether it is $10 or $100,000. How is filling out a cabcharge fraud? If thats the case Ive defrauded my business partners of thousands of dollars worth of cabcharges over just the last 12 mths. For the media to even suggest that a $75 cabcharge is excessive is ridiculous and is just playing to an ignorant audiences bloodlust.

it is certainly excessive when you were in QLD at the same time as filling in a cabcharge in Canberra.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 12:07pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:00pm: cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for. The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags

but you dont claim cabcharge on PERSONAL business though, do you?. and that is what has apparently happened. But then again you support Thomson using corporate credit cards for hookers, so you can hardly say otherwise now.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:00pm: cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for. The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags but you dont claim cabcharge on PERSONAL business though, do you?. and that is what has apparently happened. But then again you support Thomson using corporate credit cards for hookers, so you can hardly say otherwise now.

APPARENTLY HAPPENED,according to the MUD och press. I prefer to see the facts, the MUD och press are renowned liars, like you longwinded liar.

To be fair I have made up the odd cab charge because the guy has given me a blank one and at the end of the trip I can't for the life of me remember how much it was.

I usually fill in an amount roughly about what I think.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:00pm: cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for. The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags but you dont claim cabcharge on PERSONAL business though, do you?. and that is what has apparently happened. But then again you support Thomson using corporate credit cards for hookers, so you can hardly say otherwise now.

Just out of curiosity longmoron ...  have you ever claimed something as a deduction for work when you in fact bought it for personal use? eg, those sunnies, mobile phone or laptop? or maybe $300 laundry allowance (if you say you never have your a liar because everybody does it .. your accountant will automatically claim things that you may be entitled to, but not actually spent)..... Is rorting the tax payer through claimed tax deductions any different than rorting through cabcharge ?

skippy. wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 2:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:47pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:00pm: cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for. The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags but you dont claim cabcharge on PERSONAL business though, do you?. and that is what has apparently happened. But then again you support Thomson using corporate credit cards for hookers, so you can hardly say otherwise now. APPARENTLY HAPPENED,according to the MUD och press. I prefer to see the facts, the MUD och press are renowned liars, like you longwinded liar.

the police are investigating this time so it isnt being pushed to one side like the 3yr FWA 'investigation'. dont. worry,. little-mind, Abbott is soon coming to rescue you even though you dont deserve it.

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 2:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:47pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:00pm: cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for. The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags but you dont claim cabcharge on PERSONAL business though, do you?. and that is what has apparently happened. But then again you support Thomson using corporate credit cards for hookers, so you can hardly say otherwise now. Just out of curiosity longmoron ...  have you ever claimed something as a deduction for work when you in fact bought it for personal use? eg, those sunnies, mobile phone or laptop? or maybe $300 laundry allowance (if you say you never have your a liar because everybody does it .. your accountant will automatically claim things that you may be entitled to, but not actually spent)..... Is rorting the tax payer through claimed tax deductions any different than rorting through cabcharge ?

no i havent. but in any case, he is an MP who knows what the rules are and he has blatantly broken them. And you shoudl be aware that he is under investigation for travel rorts over some years back as well. But you certianly have a funny way of looking at things. You make the same excuse for Thomson and his $100,000 worth of rorts including hookers. If this is the prevailing level of integrioty for which Labor is famous then their long line thru the courts on criminal cahrges is hardly surprising, is it?

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 3:22pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:59pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:47pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:00pm: cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for. The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags but you dont claim cabcharge on PERSONAL business though, do you?. and that is what has apparently happened. But then again you support Thomson using corporate credit cards for hookers, so you can hardly say otherwise now. Just out of curiosity longmoron ...  have you ever claimed something as a deduction for work when you in fact bought it for personal use? eg, those sunnies, mobile phone or laptop? or maybe $300 laundry allowance (if you say you never have your a liar because everybody does it .. your accountant will automatically claim things that you may be entitled to, but not actually spent)..... Is rorting the tax payer through claimed tax deductions any different than rorting through cabcharge ? no i havent. but in any case, he is an MP who knows what the rules are and he has blatantly broken them. And you shoudl be aware that he is under investigation for travel rorts over some years back as well. But you certianly have a funny way of looking at things. You make the same excuse for Thomson and his $100,000 worth of rorts including hookers. If this is the prevailing level of integrioty for which Labor is famous then their long line thru the courts on criminal cahrges is hardly surprising, is it?

my way of looking at things is to not sit in judgement of others , you like to play the moral high card, when the libs have the lowest morals in the country ... I try to judge people as humans .. no one is perfect, he may have claimed travel, he may not ... I can tell you that just as many libs are doing it as ALP members....... and I don't believe you've never claimed anything you didn't deserve .... LIAR

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 3:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:22pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:59pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:47pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:00pm: cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for. The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags but you dont claim cabcharge on PERSONAL business though, do you?. and that is what has apparently happened. But then again you support Thomson using corporate credit cards for hookers, so you can hardly say otherwise now. Just out of curiosity longmoron ...  have you ever claimed something as a deduction for work when you in fact bought it for personal use? eg, those sunnies, mobile phone or laptop? or maybe $300 laundry allowance (if you say you never have your a liar because everybody does it .. your accountant will automatically claim things that you may be entitled to, but not actually spent)..... Is rorting the tax payer through claimed tax deductions any different than rorting through cabcharge ? no i havent. but in any case, he is an MP who knows what the rules are and he has blatantly broken them. And you shoudl be aware that he is under investigation for travel rorts over some years back as well. But you certianly have a funny way of looking at things. You make the same excuse for Thomson and his $100,000 worth of rorts including hookers. If this is the prevailing level of integrioty for which Labor is famous then their long line thru the courts on criminal cahrges is hardly surprising, is it? my way of looking at things is to not sit in judgement of others , you like to play the moral high card, when the libs have the lowest morals in the country ... I try to judge people as humans .. no one is perfect, he may have claimed travel, he may not ... I can tell you that just as many libs are doing it as ALP members....... and I don't believe you've never claimed anything you didn't deserve .... LIAR

the moral high card might be a bit bent in Liberal circles but at least we still have one. the ALP sold theirs in exchange for a hooker who may or may not have been consenting or of legal age.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:07pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:48pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:22pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:59pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:47pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:00pm: cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for. The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags but you dont claim cabcharge on PERSONAL business though, do you?. and that is what has apparently happened. But then again you support Thomson using corporate credit cards for hookers, so you can hardly say otherwise now. Just out of curiosity longmoron ...  have you ever claimed something as a deduction for work when you in fact bought it for personal use? eg, those sunnies, mobile phone or laptop? or maybe $300 laundry allowance (if you say you never have your a liar because everybody does it .. your accountant will automatically claim things that you may be entitled to, but not actually spent)..... Is rorting the tax payer through claimed tax deductions any different than rorting through cabcharge ? no i havent. but in any case, he is an MP who knows what the rules are and he has blatantly broken them. And you shoudl be aware that he is under investigation for travel rorts over some years back as well. But you certianly have a funny way of looking at things. You make the same excuse for Thomson and his $100,000 worth of rorts including hookers. If this is the prevailing level of integrioty for which Labor is famous then their long line thru the courts on criminal cahrges is hardly surprising, is it? my way of looking at things is to not sit in judgement of others , you like to play the moral high card, when the libs have the lowest morals in the country ... I try to judge people as humans .. no one is perfect, he may have claimed travel, he may not ... I can tell you that just as many libs are doing it as ALP members....... and I don't believe you've never claimed anything you didn't deserve .... LIAR the moral high card might be a bit bent in Liberal circles but at least we still have one. the ALP sold theirs in exchange for a hooker who may or may not have been consenting or of legal age.

a bit bent? not quite how I would put it ... and I don't give a rats about people seeing hookers, that's up to them. They serve a purpose whether you like it or not

Get over it or leave!

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 4:07pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:48pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:22pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:59pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:47pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:00pm: cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for. The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags but you dont claim cabcharge on PERSONAL business though, do you?. and that is what has apparently happened. But then again you support Thomson using corporate credit cards for hookers, so you can hardly say otherwise now. Just out of curiosity longmoron ...  have you ever claimed something as a deduction for work when you in fact bought it for personal use? eg, those sunnies, mobile phone or laptop? or maybe $300 laundry allowance (if you say you never have your a liar because everybody does it .. your accountant will automatically claim things that you may be entitled to, but not actually spent)..... Is rorting the tax payer through claimed tax deductions any different than rorting through cabcharge ? no i havent. but in any case, he is an MP who knows what the rules are and he has blatantly broken them. And you shoudl be aware that he is under investigation for travel rorts over some years back as well. But you certianly have a funny way of looking at things. You make the same excuse for Thomson and his $100,000 worth of rorts including hookers. If this is the prevailing level of integrioty for which Labor is famous then their long line thru the courts on criminal cahrges is hardly surprising, is it? my way of looking at things is to not sit in judgement of others , you like to play the moral high card, when the libs have the lowest morals in the country ... I try to judge people as humans .. no one is perfect, he may have claimed travel, he may not ... I can tell you that just as many libs are doing it as ALP members....... and I don't believe you've never claimed anything you didn't deserve .... LIAR the moral high card might be a bit bent in Liberal circles but at least we still have one. the ALP sold theirs in exchange for a hooker who may or may not have been consenting or of legal age. a bit bent? not quite how I would put it ... and I don't give a rats about people seeing hookers, that's up to them. They serve a purpose whether you like it or not

on embezzled money? thats all good too? and you seem to have miss the other ALP penchant for sex that is NOT legal.

I think it is going to be very interesting in what the courts come down with.. in both cases slipper and THOMO..a lot of dissatisfaction no matter what the verdict by the sound of the threads

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 4:11pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 4:07pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:48pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:22pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:59pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:47pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 12:00pm: cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:50am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 11:46am: As I said in another thread they ALL do it. Every single time theres any kind of scandal the travel expenses are examined and there it is. Its a perk of their positions. If you were to examine any one of them in any party you will find the same things. Its just a witchhunt. Thats all. SOB a witch hunt.. so another one doesnt think pollies should be accountable... bloody hell why do we bother? Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable? In fact i SAID to examine them ALL. My point is consistency. If you examine 1 you should examine them all. The travel expenses are a perk of their positions. They get them with the job. One would expect that "travel expenses" would include the fare from  the airport to your residence. Dont you think? SOB No one pays their own taxi or limo fare when travelling for business..thats what cabcharges and company credit cards are for. The media is relying on outrage from the great unwashed masses that are ignorant of these things and it is now the whole thing is reeking of an anti Slipper campaign by Murdoch and other purveyors of gutter rags but you dont claim cabcharge on PERSONAL business though, do you?. and that is what has apparently happened. But then again you support Thomson using corporate credit cards for hookers, so you can hardly say otherwise now. Just out of curiosity longmoron ...  have you ever claimed something as a deduction for work when you in fact bought it for personal use? eg, those sunnies, mobile phone or laptop? or maybe $300 laundry allowance (if you say you never have your a liar because everybody does it .. your accountant will automatically claim things that you may be entitled to, but not actually spent)..... Is rorting the tax payer through claimed tax deductions any different than rorting through cabcharge ? no i havent. but in any case, he is an MP who knows what the rules are and he has blatantly broken them. And you shoudl be aware that he is under investigation for travel rorts over some years back as well. But you certianly have a funny way of looking at things. You make the same excuse for Thomson and his $100,000 worth of rorts including hookers. If this is the prevailing level of integrioty for which Labor is famous then their long line thru the courts on criminal cahrges is hardly surprising, is it? my way of looking at things is to not sit in judgement of others , you like to play the moral high card, when the libs have the lowest morals in the country ... I try to judge people as humans .. no one is perfect, he may have claimed travel, he may not ... I can tell you that just as many libs are doing it as ALP members....... and I don't believe you've never claimed anything you didn't deserve .... LIAR the moral high card might be a bit bent in Liberal circles but at least we still have one. the ALP sold theirs in exchange for a hooker who may or may not have been consenting or of legal age. a bit bent? not quite how I would put it ... and I don't give a rats about people seeing hookers, that's up to them. They serve a purpose whether you like it or not on embezzled money? thats all good too? and you seem to have miss the other ALP penchant for sex that is NOT legal.

is that an ALP penchant? or the penchant of a couple of ALP members? You make out the libs have high morals ... they had nominated on the gold coast a guy who used to own a internet porn site... where were his morals ?.. he only got thrown out after it became public information .... where were the morals of the liberal party then you looser