What do you think?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 1:56pm:

What do you think?

I think it is pretty obvious Avram manufacturers mistakes in posts to make it look like they are written by a person of a non English speaking background. I doubt Avram is its only sock.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 1:56pm:

What do you think?

As I have said previously, it seems like there is one person posing as 10 on Ozpolitics.

Avram is just another incarnation.

If I was a mod, I would check to see if he has the same IP address as Soren, Baron vonrort, Sprintcyclist, etc.

falah wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:07pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:56pm: What do you think? As I have said previously, it seems like there is one person posing as 10 on Ozpolitics. Avram is just another incarnation. If I was a mod, I would check to see if he has the same IP address as Soren, Baron vonrort, Sprintcyclist, etc.

I welcOme and invite a moderator to check my ip with any person here.
I care not on your view.
I am a visitor to Australia and that is all.

See how I make no comment on your internal politic?

Leave Avram alone - everyone.
I think he's genuine.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:14pm:

falah wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:07pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:56pm: What do you think? As I have said previously, it seems like there is one person posing as 10 on Ozpolitics. Avram is just another incarnation. If I was a mod, I would check to see if he has the same IP address as Soren, Baron vonrort, Sprintcyclist, etc. I welcOme and invite a moderator to check my ip with any person here. I care not on your view. I am a visitor to Australia and that is all. See how I make no comment on your internal politic?

I would put a hundred bucks on the same person that runs the matty sock running the avram sock.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:16pm:

Leave Avram alone - everyone. I think he's genuine.

Any particular reasons why?

skippy. wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:16pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:14pm: falah wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:07pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:56pm: What do you think? As I have said previously, it seems like there is one person posing as 10 on Ozpolitics. Avram is just another incarnation. If I was a mod, I would check to see if he has the same IP address as Soren, Baron vonrort, Sprintcyclist, etc. I welcOme and invite a moderator to check my ip with any person here. I care not on your view. I am a visitor to Australia and that is all. See how I make no comment on your internal politic? I would put a hundred bucks on the same person that runs the matty sock running the avram sock.

Who do you reckon that is?

skippy. wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:16pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:14pm: falah wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:07pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:56pm: What do you think? As I have said previously, it seems like there is one person posing as 10 on Ozpolitics. Avram is just another incarnation. If I was a mod, I would check to see if he has the same IP address as Soren, Baron vonrort, Sprintcyclist, etc. I welcOme and invite a moderator to check my ip with any person here. I care not on your view. I am a visitor to Australia and that is all. See how I make no comment on your internal politic? I would put a hundred bucks on the same person that runs the matty sock running the avram sock.

If a moderator can confirm this I invite you to concede and give this 100 to children charity?

skippy. wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:06pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:56pm: What do you think? I think it is pretty obvious Avram manufacturers mistakes in posts to make it look like they are written by a person of a non English speaking background. I doubt Avram is its only sock.

It’s funny because most people who have English that level have a lot of other problems with our language, yet Avram doesn’t.
English is a funny method of communicating.
Avram should have problems with interpretations, meanings and so on yet his problems are limited to spelling and grammar and the occasional 'is that an aussie joke'.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:16pm: Leave Avram alone - everyone. I think he's genuine. Any particular reasons why?

Because he knows a lot about Israel that only a
genuine person would know  e.g.

he once told me that people in Gaza were not starving
as I had thought & actually most were very fat.

The anti-semetic propaganda on TV here always showed
the people of Gaza living in absolute poverty with no food.

Avram knows what is really happening.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:14pm:

I welcOme and invite a moderator to check my ip with any person here.

IP addresses can be hidden.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:18pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:16pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:14pm: falah wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:07pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:56pm: What do you think? As I have said previously, it seems like there is one person posing as 10 on Ozpolitics. Avram is just another incarnation. If I was a mod, I would check to see if he has the same IP address as Soren, Baron vonrort, Sprintcyclist, etc. I welcOme and invite a moderator to check my ip with any person here. I care not on your view. I am a visitor to Australia and that is all. See how I make no comment on your internal politic? I would put a hundred bucks on the same person that runs the matty sock running the avram sock. Who do you reckon that is?

I used to think it was mellie, who is known for running many socks on multi forums, on at least two other forums I post on the mods HAVE OUTED HER, they don't do that here though.
That said, I think mel is much smarter then the Avram and matty sock, so while I'm certain both have multi socks, I'm not so sure they 're mellie.

How is your Hebrew?

I speak Hebrew, French and English is my 3. Language.

Tell me what can you speak?

Do you want to speak to me in hebrew instead? Because for me that is very easy!

falah wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:21pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:14pm: I welcOme and invite a moderator to check my ip with any person here. IP addresses can be hidden.

Also he could be a mod but,
lets not forget the mods hold the same opinions as 'Avram'

He's not for realz!

He's an imposter!

I thought it from post number 1.

falah wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:21pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:14pm: I welcOme and invite a moderator to check my ip with any person here. IP addresses can be hidden.

Mine shows that the network I am on. I just checked my Muslim excuser.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:19pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:06pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:56pm: What do you think? I think it is pretty obvious Avram manufacturers mistakes in posts to make it look like they are written by a person of a non English speaking background. I doubt Avram is its only sock. It’s funny because most people who have English that level have a lot of other problems with our language, yet Avram doesn’t. English is a funny method of communicating. Avram should have problems with interpretations, meanings and so on yet his problems are limited to spelling and grammar and the occasional 'is that an aussie joke'.

Also the first thing i noticed - the spelling mistakes seem manufactured.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:18pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:16pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:14pm: falah wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:07pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:56pm: What do you think? As I have said previously, it seems like there is one person posing as 10 on Ozpolitics. Avram is just another incarnation. If I was a mod, I would check to see if he has the same IP address as Soren, Baron vonrort, Sprintcyclist, etc. I welcOme and invite a moderator to check my ip with any person here. I care not on your view. I am a visitor to Australia and that is all. See how I make no comment on your internal politic? I would put a hundred bucks on the same person that runs the matty sock running the avram sock. If a moderator can confirm this I invite you to concede and give this 100 to children charity?

Proxies dont count,sweety. ;D

Let us remember here that I have a moderate view.
I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together.

Now look on here.
The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum.
Then you have excuses for deaths of children here.

So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:19pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:06pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:56pm: What do you think? I think it is pretty obvious Avram manufacturers mistakes in posts to make it look like they are written by a person of a non English speaking background. I doubt Avram is its only sock. It’s funny because most people who have English that level have a lot of other problems with our language, yet Avram doesn’t. English is a funny method of communicating. Avram should have problems with interpretations, meanings and so on yet his problems are limited to spelling and grammar and the occasional 'is that an aussie joke'.

Exactly, that's why I don't believe the avram id is genuine. I've been posting on forums for years, its easy to pick the sox after a while.
Avram has already gone into the typical denial mode,too, a true ID wouldn't bother. ;D Though, having said its not mel, the denials are very Mel like.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:20pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:16pm: Leave Avram alone - everyone. I think he's genuine. Any particular reasons why? Because he knows a lot about Israel that only a genuine person would know  e.g. he once told me that people in Gaza were not starving as I had thought & actually most were very fat. The anti-semetic propaganda on TV here always showed the people of Gaza living in absolute poverty with no food. Avram knows what is really happening.

There are a large number of Jews from Sydney and Melbourne who go off to do military training in Israel. In their two years of military training they will probably watch a lot of Israeli TV and read a lot of Israeli newspapers while staying in Israel.

Avram (and the other pro-Israeli characters on Ozpolitics)  is probably just one of the Australian jews who has done military training in Israel.

Australian Jews are active in running Israel.

The Israeli Prime Minister even has an Australian Jew, Mark Negev, as his spokesman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SILJxPTqjAM

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:26pm:

Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together.

But you are happy to espouse racist and bigotted views and tell lies about Arabs and Muslims.

Quote:

Avram (and the other pro-Israeli characters on Ozpolitics)  is probably just one of the Australian jews who has done military training in Israel

The truth is - you don't know.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:20pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:16pm: Leave Avram alone - everyone. I think he's genuine. Any particular reasons why? Because he knows a lot about Israel that only a genuine person would know  e.g. he once told me that people in Gaza were not starving as I had thought & actually most were very fat. The anti-semetic propaganda on TV here always showed the people of Gaza living in absolute poverty with no food. Avram knows what is really happening.

I have never seen him demonstrate any exclusive knowledge?
Poverty is a huge problem in Gaza, where do you get the opposite idea from?

Avram clearly knows very little of what is happening.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:26pm:

Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here.

Hmm..

Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with.

Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:37pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned.

Exactly! The forum is a right-wing sham.

Avram has also made 958 posts in only 43 days, a sure sign of a bored sock, and a sign of mellie I must admit.

Bobby, you are a gullible fool if you believe people aren't going hungry in Gaza.

I have no idea if Avram is misrepresenting himself. I don't really care, and such I'm comfortable taking him at face value.

If you're not, then don't engage. It's pretty simple, really.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:37pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned.

Calling someone Jew boy
Saying more Americans should have died in 911
Calling Israelis all scum.


You think this is ok behaviour?

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:44pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:37pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned. Calling someone Jew boy Saying more Americans should have died in 911 Calling Israelis all scum. You think this is ok behaviour?

You are a jewish boy arent you?
America does need to learn a lesson
and I dont think I have ever called all Israelis scum, just the ones like you.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:44pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:37pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned. Calling someone Jew boy Saying more Americans should have died in 911 Calling Israelis all scum. You think this is ok behaviour?

Do you think that is worse than saying "barbaric Muslim animals" hypocritical sock?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:45pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:44pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:37pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned. Calling someone Jew boy Saying more Americans should have died in 911 Calling Israelis all scum. You think this is ok behaviour? You are a jewish boy arent you? America does need to learn a lesson and I dont think I have ever called all Israelis scum, just the ones like you.

Jew boy is anti semetic.
Calling for more American deaths is why you were banned.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:49pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:45pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:44pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:37pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned. Calling someone Jew boy Saying more Americans should have died in 911 Calling Israelis all scum. You think this is ok behaviour? You are a jewish boy arent you? America does need to learn a lesson and I dont think I have ever called all Israelis scum, just the ones like you. Jew boy is anti semetic. Calling for more American deaths is why you were banned.

Do people really need to explain the definition of semetic to you again?
How do you know why I was banned?
Freediver?

skippy. wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:47pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:44pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:37pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned. Calling someone Jew boy Saying more Americans should have died in 911 Calling Israelis all scum. You think this is ok behaviour? Do you think that is worse than saying "barbaric Muslim animals" hypocritical sock?

BUMP for the hypocritical sock known as Avram, among others??????????????????/
Come out from your sock drawer and answer the question,avram.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:50pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:49pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:45pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:44pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:37pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned. Calling someone Jew boy Saying more Americans should have died in 911 Calling Israelis all scum. You think this is ok behaviour? You are a jewish boy arent you? America does need to learn a lesson and I dont think I have ever called all Israelis scum, just the ones like you. Jew boy is anti semetic. Calling for more American deaths is why you were banned. Do people really need to explain the definition of semetic to you again? How do you know why I was banned? Freediver?

Because you were reported for it

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:57pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:50pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:49pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:45pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:44pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:37pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned. Calling someone Jew boy Saying more Americans should have died in 911 Calling Israelis all scum. You think this is ok behaviour? You are a jewish boy arent you? America does need to learn a lesson and I dont think I have ever called all Israelis scum, just the ones like you. Jew boy is anti semetic. Calling for more American deaths is why you were banned. Do people really need to explain the definition of semetic to you again? How do you know why I was banned? Freediver? Because you were reported for it

Oh yeah,
well if expressing my opinions will get me banned then I guess:
More people should have died in 911

Does it matter who he is?

Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university ..

In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ...

he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:50pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:49pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:45pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:44pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:37pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned. Calling someone Jew boy Saying more Americans should have died in 911 Calling Israelis all scum. You think this is ok behaviour? You are a jewish boy arent you? America does need to learn a lesson and I dont think I have ever called all Israelis scum, just the ones like you. Jew boy is anti semetic. Calling for more American deaths is why you were banned. Do people really need to explain the definition of semetic to you again? How do you know why I was banned? Freediver?

Has anybody been banned for anti-Arab, anti-Muslim comments?

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:57pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:50pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:49pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:45pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:44pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:37pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned. Calling someone Jew boy Saying more Americans should have died in 911 Calling Israelis all scum. You think this is ok behaviour? You are a jewish boy arent you? America does need to learn a lesson and I dont think I have ever called all Israelis scum, just the ones like you. Jew boy is anti semetic. Calling for more American deaths is why you were banned. Do people really need to explain the definition of semetic to you again? How do you know why I was banned? Freediver? Because you were reported for it

Freediver, did you just get your usernames mixed up?

Arh, the lefties once again show they can't hack anyone who diverts from their viewpoint.

I can't refute him, oh, he must he a sock!

Why use logical or empirical analysis when you can accuse someone of being someone else, and then pretend that refutes everything he says!

I believe he's real. It's hard to adopt different syntax and grammar. It's easy to adopt other views that may not be consistent with your own, but changing your syntax and grammar is a different ballgame.
The only one here that I believe could do it is Karnal. Some others maybe, but the majority simply aren't intelligent enough to completely alter their writing style.

Anyway, who cares. If you lefties think his views are wrong, then you'd have no problem refuting them without resorting to slogans like "Jew boy," "Israeli scum" and thinking he's a sock.
But, don't mind me, continue carrying on as leftists do.

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Does it matter who he is? Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university .. In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ... he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from

It’s about principle I guess.
But it matters in the fact he is trying to be perceived as knowledgeable on the subject, to discredit what others may say. But clearly he is not knowledgeable and it can be misleading if you don’t know how to look at the facts.

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Does it matter who he is? Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university .. In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ... he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from

Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel?
Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:59pm:

Arh, the lefties once again show they can't hack anyone who diverts from their viewpoint. I can't refute him, oh, he must he a sock! Why use logical or empirical analysis when you can accuse someone of being someone else, and then pretend that refutes everything he says! I believe he's real. It's hard to adopt different syntax and grammar. It's easy to adopt other views that may not be consistent with your own, but changing your syntax and grammar is a different ballgame. The only one here that I believe could do it is Karnal. Some others maybe, but the majority simply aren't intelligent enough to completely alter their writing style. Anyway, who cares. If you lefties think his views are wrong, then you'd have no problem refuting them without resorting to slogans like "Jew boy," "Israeli scum" and thinking he's a sock. But, don't mind me, continue carrying on as leftists do.

Please show one example where what he says has not been refuted and debunked.

Please show me where logic and analysis of evidence has not been used.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:03pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:59pm: Arh, the lefties once again show they can't hack anyone who diverts from their viewpoint. I can't refute him, oh, he must he a sock! Why use logical or empirical analysis when you can accuse someone of being someone else, and then pretend that refutes everything he says! I believe he's real. It's hard to adopt different syntax and grammar. It's easy to adopt other views that may not be consistent with your own, but changing your syntax and grammar is a different ballgame. The only one here that I believe could do it is Karnal. Some others maybe, but the majority simply aren't intelligent enough to completely alter their writing style. Anyway, who cares. If you lefties think his views are wrong, then you'd have no problem refuting them without resorting to slogans like "Jew boy," "Israeli scum" and thinking he's a sock. But, don't mind me, continue carrying on as leftists do. Please show one example where what he says has not been refuted and debunked. Please show me where logic and analysis of evidence has not been used.

The solution to the problem is simple. As Avram has stated, if the Palestinians stop firing rockets into Israel and acknowledge its right to exist, then peace will follow.

Keep firing rockets into Israel and the Palestinians will continually get their arses kicked.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:07pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:03pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:59pm: Arh, the lefties once again show they can't hack anyone who diverts from their viewpoint. I can't refute him, oh, he must he a sock! Why use logical or empirical analysis when you can accuse someone of being someone else, and then pretend that refutes everything he says! I believe he's real. It's hard to adopt different syntax and grammar. It's easy to adopt other views that may not be consistent with your own, but changing your syntax and grammar is a different ballgame. The only one here that I believe could do it is Karnal. Some others maybe, but the majority simply aren't intelligent enough to completely alter their writing style. Anyway, who cares. If you lefties think his views are wrong, then you'd have no problem refuting them without resorting to slogans like "Jew boy," "Israeli scum" and thinking he's a sock. But, don't mind me, continue carrying on as leftists do. Please show one example where what he says has not been refuted and debunked. Please show me where logic and analysis of evidence has not been used. The solution to the problem is simple. As Avram has stated, if the Palestinians stop firing rockets into Israel and acknowledge its right to exist, then peace will follow. Keep firing rockets into Israel and the Palestinians will continually get their arses kicked.

Nice try to try and hijack the thread but this has already been debunked.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:59pm:

Arh, the lefties once again show they can't hack anyone who diverts from their viewpoint. I can't refute him, oh, he must he a sock! Why use logical or empirical analysis when you can accuse someone of being someone else, and then pretend that refutes everything he says! I believe he's real. It's hard to adopt different syntax and grammar. It's easy to adopt other views that may not be consistent with your own, but changing your syntax and grammar is a different ballgame. The only one here that I believe could do it is Karnal. Some others maybe, but the majority simply aren't intelligent enough to completely alter their writing style. Anyway, who cares. If you lefties think his views are wrong, then you'd have no problem refuting them without resorting to slogans like "Jew boy," "Israeli scum" and thinking he's a sock. But, don't mind me, continue carrying on as leftists do.

Yes.

Except for the stuff about 'leftists'. That's obviously just crazy talk.

Some peoples lives are so small they need to invent others identities to help make a conversation. Good luck to them, at least they get the answer they wanted.

falah wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:07pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:56pm: What do you think? As I have said previously, it seems like there is one person posing as 10 on Ozpolitics. Avram is just another incarnation. If I was a mod, I would check to see if he has the same IP address as Soren, Baron vonrort, Sprintcyclist, etc.

Falah didn't you also accuse me of being Avram?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:01pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:58pm: Does it matter who he is? Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university .. In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ... he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel? Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic?

I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home  ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:01pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:58pm: Does it matter who he is? Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university .. In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ... he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel? Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic? I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home  ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect

That's the same logic people use to advocate against accepting asylum seekers and allowing them into our communities. It's a flawed analogy.

skippy. wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:51pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:47pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:44pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:37pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together. Now look on here. The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum. Then you have excuses for deaths of children here. So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here. Hmm.. Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with. Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned. Calling someone Jew boy Saying more Americans should have died in 911 Calling Israelis all scum. You think this is ok behaviour? Do you think that is worse than saying "barbaric Muslim animals" hypocritical sock? BUMP for the hypocritical sock known as Avram, among others??????????????????/ Come out from your sock drawer and answer the question,avram.

BUMP FOR AVRAM

Surely, Avram is too much of a stereotype to be real. If he is a sock, his attempts to define his Jewishness through right wing Zionism sails very close to the winds of anti-Semitism. Obviously this won't make any sense to the imbeciles who can't distinguish between anti-Zionism and ant-Semitism.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:28pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:25pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:01pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:58pm: Does it matter who he is? Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university .. In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ... he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel? Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic? I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home  ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect That's the same logic people use to advocate against accepting asylum seekers and allowing them into our communities. It's a flawed analogy.

Nope.. I disagree... asylum seekers don't have a choice and just want a chance to live their lives ... asylum seekers don't want to visit my home, they want to join my home and contribute and as such they have a say in the running of that home to help make it a better place ... Avram wants to spread hate and run away

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:01pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:58pm: Does it matter who he is? Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university .. In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ... he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel? Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic? I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home  ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect

You're sounding like a conservative.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:26pm:

Let us remember here that I have a moderate view.

That's exactly what Matty says.

Avram is entitled to have his say on this site. They are his views and he is exercising his democratric right, to have his say. As are his opponents having their  full say in refuting his stances.

Democracy in action - you have to love that! :)

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:28pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:25pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:01pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:58pm: Does it matter who he is? Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university .. In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ... he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel? Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic? I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home  ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect That's the same logic people use to advocate against accepting asylum seekers and allowing them into our communities. It's a flawed analogy. Nope.. I disagree... asylum seekers don't have a choice and just want a chance to live their lives ... asylum seekers don't want to visit my home, they want to join my home and contribute and as such they have a say in the running of that home to help make it a better place ... Avram wants to spread hate and run away

This is the internet. He could spread hatred from Israel.

altering your writing style is easy

he's pretty annoying

ive never seen him post nything worth reading but thats true of a lot of people on the internet so whatever

Looks like all the aliases are voting Avram as genuine.

red baron wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 5:21pm:

Democracy in action - you have to love that! :)

Democracy; got these people elected:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/images/hitler1.jpg

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/11/20/1225957/320321-richard-nixon.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VZoqEaqS228/SSYF3sUtc_I/AAAAAAAAAIE/c0G-_Tq_CB0/s400/bush-george-stupid.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qfW_VGnXpdc/T2NR8HK-8jI/AAAAAAAAAG4/wwP82A55FDU/s1600/Ariel-Sharon.jpg

falah wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 6:57pm:

Looks like all the aliases are voting Avram as genuine.

maybe everyone just DESPISES you and all you stand for.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 7:08pm:

falah wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 6:57pm: Looks like all the aliases are voting Avram as genuine. maybe everyone just DESPISES you and all you stand for.

I wouldn't accuse you of being Avram, you are probably not smart enough.

AVRAM?

Aren't they memory chips for Jewish computers?

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Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:25pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:01pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:58pm: Does it matter who he is? Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university .. In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ... he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel? Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic? I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home  ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect You're sounding like a conservative.

with some things, I am conservative ... nothing wrong with that ...

Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 5:28pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 4:04pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:28pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:25pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:01pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:58pm: Does it matter who he is? Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university .. In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ... he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel? Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic? I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home  ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect That's the same logic people use to advocate against accepting asylum seekers and allowing them into our communities. It's a flawed analogy. Nope.. I disagree... asylum seekers don't have a choice and just want a chance to live their lives ... asylum seekers don't want to visit my home, they want to join my home and contribute and as such they have a say in the running of that home to help make it a better place ... Avram wants to spread hate and run away This is the internet. He could spread hatred from Israel.

But he isn't ... I don't care that he voices his opinion ... I care that he accepts Australias hospitality and then criticises it ..  In fact I despise people like that ... if you don't like my home, don't come here and bitch about it .