What effected your political views more, your environment or your genes?

____ wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:01am:

What effected your political views more, your environment or your genes?

Environment, no question...

How the hell would my genes affect my political views?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 8:55am:

How the hell would my genes affect my political views?

If a person has a compassionate undertone to their nature due to genetic programming then they would be more inclined to vote progressive than regressive.

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____ wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 10:14am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 8:55am: How the hell would my genes affect my political views? If a person has a compassionate undertone to their nature due to genetic programming then they would be more inclined to vote progressive than regressive.

No this is determined by environment, this is how organisms survive.

We have genes which allow us to adapt, if someone is born into a nourishing environment then they are more likely to be regressive but if someone is born into say poverty they are more likely to be progressive.

Genes cannot predetermine your opinions.

The Genetics of Politics




Aristotle once noted, “Man is by nature a political animal.” What may be the first study to investigate this idea scientifically now controversially suggests that Aristotle may have been right—the desire to vote or abstain from politics might largely be hardwired into our biology.

When it comes to predicting who will vote, researchers have looked at “everything but the kitchen sink,” says political scientist James Fowler of the University of California, San Diego. Theorists speculate on factors such as age, gender, race, marital status, education, income, home ownership, political knowledgeability and church attendance. But studies indicate that each one exerts only a small effect.

Fowler notes that people who vote often do so even when they know their lone ballot will not change the outcome of an election. “It’s almost like voters are programmed to keep voting, even when their common sense tells them it is probably useless,” he states. At the same time, “many people never vote, no matter what. So I started to wonder if there was something very basic at the biological level.”

Fowler and his colleagues thus turned to identical and fraternal twins. If the decision to vote is based in part on genetics, they reasoned, identical twins should behave more alike than fraternal twins, because identical twins share all of their DNA, whereas fraternal twins share only half on average.

The researchers matched data from the Southern California Twin Registry with publicly accessible electronic voter registration and turnout records from Los Angeles County. Their analysis of voting histories for 326 identical and 196 fraternal twins suggests that genetics was responsible for 60 percent of differences in voting turnout between twin types, with the rest coming from environmental or other factors.

Fowler and his colleagues also investigated a larger, more nationally representative database from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, or Add Health. This study not only asked if participants voted but also inquired about participation in other political activities, such as whether they contributed to campaigns or attended political rallies or marches. The researchers’ data on 442 identical and 364 fraternal Add Health twins indicate that genetics underlies 72 percent of differences in voting turnout and roughly 60 percent of differences in other political activity. Fowler, who presented the research at the American Political Science Association meeting in August, claims that preliminary results from the Twins Days festival in Twinsburg, Ohio, also support the findings.

Fowler adds that his team’s work does not suggest that genetics can determine whom people will vote for, only whether or not they are likely to vote. He also emphasizes that environment most likely plays a significant role in voting: “There is still a lot we can do to shape political behavior in spite of our genetic tendencies.”

If genes do in part control voting, a single gene is unlikely to be responsible—hundreds of genes are probably involved, suggests behavioral geneticist Robert Plomin of King’s College London. Fowler hypothesizes that because “we obviously did not vote in large-scale elections in the Pleistocene,” the drive to vote or participate in politics may be linked with genes underlying more ancient behaviors, such as innate dispositions toward cooperation. The search for any such genes in our primate relatives could help determine “whether we share the neurobiological underpinnings of cooperation or whether humans are unique in this respect,” Fowler adds.

Plomin states that “these findings are strong,” but in his analysis of the same data, he concludes that genetics was responsible for 40, and not 60, percent of differences in voting turnout between twin types. Forty percent is still “a lot,” he admits, and is also the average estimate of heritability seen in twin studies of personality, suggesting that voting is an example of a genetically influenced personality trait in general.


http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-genetics-of-politics



Can't rule out genes influencing political persuasion.

Genetics may drive people to alcohol and then drunkenly vote Regressive. And once people vote, they are more likely to habitually vote for that same party.

Alcohol abuse could explain the blip in current coalition support.

Greens,
You're an idiot

Watch it all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36HquPzdxf4

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 8:55am:

How the hell would my genes affect my political views?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SULpAzBSNTs&feature=related

HOLY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS..............!!

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 14^th, 2012 at 3:24am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 8:55am: How the hell would my genes affect my political views? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SULpAzBSNTs&feature=related HOLY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS..............!!

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____ wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:01am:

What effected your political views more, your environment or your genes?

I think the "right" would like it to be determined by genes so they can say they cant help it.

SOB

Given that emotions aren't taught, genetics does play a part. It is only the moral interpretations of these emotions as to where environment conditions behaviour. Shame or reward can be applied to behaviour to modify emotions; but this rarely eradicates them, it merely bottles them up inside usually producing sporadic, violent outbursts, or sublimates them into other channels.

Our emotional temperament I would go as far to say is inherited, not taught. This can be exemplified by examining many people who encounter the same environmental conditions but react differently to these same conditions. Why do people react differently to the same conditions? For example, some people can have constant run ins with bullies but palm it off easily and continue on to enjoy life, others take bullying to heart and let it really effect them. Often these people end up withdrawn and timid, others react violently. Obviously there's differences here in the emotional temperament of these people.
One could argue previous environmental conditions led to the different outcomes, but it doesn't eradicate the fact that emotions exist prior to any conditioning.

Given all that, genetics and environment both play a part in political positions. Leftists usually have effeminate natures, are emotionally weak, have little self-control, therefore ending up sympathizing with everything that supposedly suffers. Which is why they side with boat people, women, non-whites, non-Westerners, on almost all issues.

Conservatives, on the other hand, have balls, display masculine traits, and therefore are more willing to embrace self-responsibility, affirm life despite all its problems and suffering, and go on to be successful in many endeavours.

Both conservatives and leftists go through similar experiences, but neither group interprets or reacts against their experiences similarly. Which is where, I believe, genetics comes in.

Wow all that writing and you were only able to prove one thing.
You dont know anything about the topic.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2012 at 4:03pm:

Wow all that writing and you were only able to prove one thing. You dont know anything about the topic.

Sigh, care to provide an argument or evidence why?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 14^th, 2012 at 4:06pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 14th, 2012 at 4:03pm: Wow all that writing and you were only able to prove one thing. You dont know anything about the topic. Sigh, care to provide an argument or evidence why?

Well can you provide evidence for what you said?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2012 at 5:19pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 14th, 2012 at 4:06pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 14th, 2012 at 4:03pm: Wow all that writing and you were only able to prove one thing. You dont know anything about the topic. Sigh, care to provide an argument or evidence why? Well can you provide evidence for what you said?

I've provided arguments.
You've stated that I "dont know anything about the topic." If this is true then you should have no problem stating why.

A nice win for the Greens and koala's in parliament today. Koala's have finally been listed as endangered species.

Campbell Newman is furious. He must have promised his dirty coal mining and urban spread developer mates some favours.

Good on the Greens. Hopefully koala's will still be here for our great grandchildren.

Righties hate animals having favour over development, selfish they are.

I like koalas.


Quote:

There are three koalas on a tree. Why did the first one fall down? It died. Why did the second one fall down? The first one hit it on the way down. Why did the third one fall down? Peer pressure.