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Title: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Kat on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 8:43pm I regard myself as a reasonable, intelligent, centrist poster with no real bias towards or against either side of politics. I see good and bad in BOTH sides. And I'm generally regarded as being pretty tolerant and easy-going. Nor do I normally throw insults around. But I'll be fecked if I'll put up with any more slurs aimed at me. I'm going to start throwing it right back. I've had a gutfull of the bullshyt and the insults. It's ruining this forum, and it's almost ALWAYS some smacking nut-bar from one extreme or the other. Or 'children' like Matty and Slack-bladder. No bloody wonder that the only newbies we seem to get are MORE dickheads. And no wonder some of the better posters have given up and left, after the constant insults and abuse. I'm just surprised that more haven't. This place needs a good bosphoric put through it. And the sooner, the better. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Kat on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 8:45pm Now, cue MORE insults and abuse.....no doubt. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by gizmo_2655 on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 9:34pm
Sorry Kat, but while you may see yourself that way, that doesn't mean others see you the same way....
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Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 9:49pm Kat wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 8:43pm:
Well vented :-) |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by jalane on Apr 4th, 2012 at 12:21am
Now Kat .. settle .. simmer....
Don't let the swine get you down. :) Their verbal poop ::) is worthless, whatever was said... shake it off.! :) |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Frances on Apr 4th, 2012 at 12:39am Kat wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 8:43pm:
It does seem to be a problem that rears its ugly head every now and again here, and more so than on other forums. Last year I was on the receiving end of a very personal attack from a piece of low life slime called kingofthecastle, who thankfully seems to have gone now. It upset me so much I didn't post anything here for a few months afterwards. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by jalane on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:21am
hey frances I do get that !
but the molestors on this forum are pretty pathetic really. I'd advise having some literary repostes. Or not , as the case may be. . O yeah Matty et al aren't worth the effort. ;) :D .. better to just ignore them,, they only slaver after responses to whet their appetite for more rubbish. maybe they like eating shite?? ;) |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Frances on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:55am Emma wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:21am:
I wouldn't dismiss Matty as quickly as the others though. The problem with Matty is that he's so one eyed that he often leaps to conclusions without even considering what the other side might have to say. He can be a it repetitive at times too, but I can't help thinking that there is intelligence in there that's trying to get out.... |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by GoddyofOz on Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:44am It is true that what this place needs is a good enema, but good luck finding it. There's nobody left to make me mod. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by cods on Apr 4th, 2012 at 7:24am Frances wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 12:39am:
oh boy can I relate to that....not only have I had the worst written abuse on here I had other joining in and praising the bastard for all his lies and venom.. it made me sick and almost ill.. the thing is KAT you dont let them win.. this is what bullies want they want to drive you away.. its easy to say ignore.. thats what FD says you have to do.. but it aint that simple.. I think it is up to all of us when we see some back things being said to another we should voice our disgust on the forum.. I have done that a few times but I think it need a concerted effort from all of us to put these slaggers where they belong..its a thought anyway. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by cods on Apr 4th, 2012 at 7:26am GoddyofOz wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:44am:
dont you think we should stick up for each other... it might send a message who knows. I hate seeing someone get picked on and that goes for matty as well. some only come on here to make someone elses enjoyment miserable..they never debate anything just put down. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by falah on Apr 4th, 2012 at 8:55am
Unfortunately, the moderators are happy to see the site degenerate by allowing personal insults.
Allowing these personal attacks just affects the credibility of the forum. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 4th, 2012 at 9:06am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqdGLQoic7Q
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Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Andrei.Hicks on Apr 4th, 2012 at 10:27am
I should be a moderator.
Kat I would sort them out, trust me. We would see a return to law and order. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by dsmithy70 on Apr 4th, 2012 at 10:53am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 10:27am:
Yes you should. You have my vote. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by great one on Apr 4th, 2012 at 10:56am
Shouldn't people be free to express themselves however they like? Sure, it can be irritating at times but maybe that's just how they feel about a particular subject. Maybe they felt that they have no choice . It's all they know. Maybe they just don't have the vocabulary to express themselves any other way. It is an anonymous Internet forum where people will take privileges that they normally wouldn't. Not everyone here has a university degree and maybe they weren't part of the school debating team. If you think your above that, fine, then act like it. You can choose to ignore it or not. Not everyone here interprets what they read the same as you. Something that you may have been said with good intentions, can be interpreted wrongly and offend the person reading it, they react in a manner that then offends you. I just think that on an Internet forum you have to expect all sorts and you can't take things personally. I know I myself have let loose if I felt the other person overstepped the mark. I also try not to take offense if they have a go at me because I may have inadvertently offended them. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. We each have different boundaries and with this type of social interaction, stepping on peoples toes is par for the course. Sure, ideally an intellectual debate at all times would be great, but i don't think it can happen all the time on this type of platform where anyone from all walks of life can join in. Everyone's standards differ.
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Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by The tolerator on Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:13pm
Me too. I figured "if ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" at somewhere around the 4000-5000 post mark. Troll me, I'll troll you back. It might be petty and immature, but I don't have the option of slapping you silly through da interwebz, so thats the only avenue open to me.
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Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by perceptions_now on Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:09pm
Unfortunately Kat, there are a few major difficulties involved here -
1) This is essentially a Political site & as such there are quite few who are ardent supporters of various party's &/or ideologies, which immediately sets those with competing views against each other, setting up an "us & them mentality"! 2) The human race has never been that successful at disagreeing with each other, whilst remaining on good talking terms! Unfortunately, if moderators suspended/banned everyone who made the usual sort of barbed comments, then it would usually end with this or any other similar site having very few members and eventually ceasing to operate, which I have already seen happen in OZ & in the USA. I would suggest that the best course of action, is to disregard the usual - Credible Reliable Abundant Paradoxes But, if it goes too far, then report it by way of PM to the relevant Mod/s of the day and let them try to exercise some "influence" with the offending poster/s. That said and I still do it myself occasionally, we all reserve the right to clearly tell someone they have gone too far & they should pull their head/s in! |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by skippy. on Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:19pm Frances wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 12:39am:
Unfortunately he is still here, just using another sock,HI BLACKADDER :-X. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by blackadder on Apr 4th, 2012 at 5:17pm skippy. wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:19pm:
Oh dear. Roopoo is back on the jungle juice. Lets see....who you hace accused me of being. Mellie, Juliar, Longweekend, Matty, Fred even Cods. Nails has accused me of being someone else. Pansi says she knows who I am. Gist has called me Mellie. It's all a bit much really. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Kat on Apr 4th, 2012 at 6:35pm perceptions_now wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:09pm:
Ah, you're right, mate (as in correct...:-) I dunno, normally I'd just let it slide. But I'm having an absolute c%$*t of a time in RL at the moment, and some of the carp I've been copping recently HAS been a bit below the belt. I DID modify my post to Slack-Bladder last night, as requested to by Mozzaok. And I do realise how hard it is to mod a forum like this. Some 'righties' I can get along with, we can disagree without making it personal (looking at you, Longie, and a couple of others), just as I can do the same with some of the more 'out there' lefties (Woody need not apply). Hell, I even talk to Deathridesamoped and Bill Crany, and have even agreed with Hicksie on many occasions. Smithy (Hitler in a Head-set...CLASSIC!!!) is probably one of the regs whose views most closely resemble mine, and I remember that he was always the same fair and open-minded bloke on Blahoo when I first got into this forum concept. Could I be any MORE unbiased? I doubt it. Maybe I'm just 'Flavour of the Month', I dunno. Sorry for the rant, but if it brought a few issues to the surface, I suppose it was worth it. Kat is QRV and QSX. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 4th, 2012 at 7:31pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 10:27am:
Not you Andrei - I'd get banned. ;D |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by jalane on Apr 4th, 2012 at 7:40pm
yeah
nix to you Hick. ::) |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by freediver on Apr 4th, 2012 at 8:07pm Quote:
Ignore - and report with a link and quote. Responding in kind can get you banned. Quote:
I have never seen this work for personal gripes - only make the problem worse. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by john_g on Apr 4th, 2012 at 9:43pm Kat wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 8:43pm:
Mate, I could not agree more. I rarely come on here, there's just too much petty bickering, childish name-calling and nastiness. This should be a place where we discuss the issues and politics of the day, without resorting to such childishness and immaturity. The really sad and pathetic thing is that most of us here are well beyond our youth. You wouldn't know it from reading a lot of the posts here. I don't understand why you single out Matty and Blackadder, though. Neither is anywhere close to being the worst on here. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by pansi1951 on Apr 5th, 2012 at 6:45am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 10:27am:
High flyer extraordinaire lol How would that look on your resume? :( :( I sit on a computer all day with a bunch of unemployed and pensioners moderating a political forum. Just once in a while you remember who you are Walter. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Verge on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:43am
There's just no love here anymore.
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Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:44am Verge wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:43am:
This is a warzone |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Verge on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:56am bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:44am:
It started off like Woodstock and has turned into Vietnam. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:00pm Verge wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:56am:
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Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by pansi1951 on Apr 5th, 2012 at 1:02pm |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by FriYAY on Apr 5th, 2012 at 4:10pm
Make me a MOD.
I recon most of you and definately all politicians are morons. :) |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by skippy. on Apr 5th, 2012 at 5:00pm blackadder wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 5:17pm:
When did I do that? Fred and cods are much smarter than you. I've called you kingofthefibrocastle since you started using this sock after being banned. OH ,I see, you dont want the mods to know its you with a new sock, too late they can see your IP address is the same,apparently,. ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Gist on Apr 6th, 2012 at 12:50am blackadder wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 5:17pm:
I've called you braindeader. I've called you blackdudder. I've called you dacksnacker. I've called you blackknackers. I've called you moron. I've called you stoopid. I've called you idiot. I'm sure I would have called you dickhead at some point. And almost certainly *******. Because all of those names apply. But I've never, ever called you Mellie, shiffa, because I only know you are a stinking sock. I have no idea who Mellie is. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by jalane on Apr 6th, 2012 at 2:21am
yeah
stinky sox so people present with multitude personas. Well - Someone has to agree with them.!!Even if it's only themselves. ;) Personally I've always been me.! pretending to other persona seems - I don't know? :-? deceptive? driven? dishonest?disrespectful? detached? delusional? deceitful? disturbed? dyspeptic? dysfunctional? derivative? or... DA DAAAAAAA!!!!! damned boring? ::) |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Kat on Apr 8th, 2012 at 7:03pm
Well, Geez, i thought I'd get flamed off OzPol for that OP.
But thanks for the support, fellow OzPol-ers. But I STILL wouldn't mod this place for quids. I'm too fair (chuckles). BUTT..............We DO need to get rid of the socks/multis. And we DO need to SLAM the abuse. **BTW, FreeDiver can verify that the Kat is THE Kat, and that she doesn't wear socks** |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by jalane on Apr 8th, 2012 at 8:31pm
too right Kat.!!
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Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by skippy. on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:19pm Quote:
I've posted here for about 6 years and we never used to have a problem with sox. The sox all started to appear about 18 months ago when the yahoo crew turned up. I can only assume a lot of sox were used there and they carried it over to here. Some sox are funny, and most are pretty easy to spot, but they become a pain in the ass when people use their sox to back up their argument, that's why its common to see posters like old sault back up matty, olive,swagmen et al. The other occurrence is the banned member that keeps coming back with knew nicks,AGAIN, only happened since the yahoo crew turned up. I can only ever remember two members being banned in the 4 years prior to the yahoo crew. Most of the ex yahooligan are good, so I'm not bagging them, just filling you in. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by life_goes_on on Apr 9th, 2012 at 7:12pm Quote:
On yahoo it wasn't unusual to have four, five or six IDs battling it out in a thread - yet there only be two unique IPs. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by perceptions_now on Apr 9th, 2012 at 8:03pm Life_goes_on wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 7:12pm:
Except for the obvious, I really can not see the reasoning! I came he via Yahoo & a few other sites, but I have only ever had the one ID, with a few forced variations, due to the respective sites. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 9th, 2012 at 8:15pm perceptions_now wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 8:03pm:
I came here from Yahoo. Before the Yahoo people came here this was a site with much less activity. Ozpolitics was livened up by Yahoo closing their politics forum. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by dsmithy70 on Apr 9th, 2012 at 8:17pm
I really can't understand those that use socks.
Do they actually have multiple personalities? Muttering away to themselves as if it makes a difference, pointless. I'm the same as PN,dsmithy70 has been my ID thru every forum I've ever joined. If your not willing to own your posts, frankly your piss weak. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by jalane on Apr 9th, 2012 at 8:40pm
quite right dsmithy70 and other commenters.
It rreally is tiresome when you keep hearing the same the same shite over and again. doesn't it? If your not willing to own your posts, frankly your piss weak.- dsmithy70 |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by life_goes_on on Apr 9th, 2012 at 8:42pm
A friend of mine was a sys admin at Yahoo. By the end they had so few unique users it just wasn't worth it.
I bailed early in 2009 when he told me just how few real people were on there compared to the IDs posting. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 9th, 2012 at 9:05pm Life_goes_on wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 8:42pm:
We're not talking about 2007. It was 2007 when yahoo closed the politics forum just after Kev 07. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by skippy. on Apr 10th, 2012 at 9:02am Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 8:15pm:
I agree ,bobby,I'm not having a go at you ex yahoo posters, most of you have added a lot to this forum. I think the sad thing is these fools think they fool anyone with their multi sox. :D |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Verge on Apr 10th, 2012 at 10:00am skippy. wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 9:02am:
Thanks Skip, thats the nicest thing you have ever said. On the issue of multi sox, if someone needs to log in to back themselves up with different user names it still doesnt change the obvious, the obvious being they are either right or they are wrong. If a billion people believe in a dumb idea, its still a dumb idea. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 10th, 2012 at 12:59pm skippy. wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 9:02am:
We've added a lot except for people like Longweekend who was an ex yahooligan. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by skippy. on Apr 10th, 2012 at 1:25pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 12:59pm:
While I agree, every form needs a fool to laugh at, this forum lacked that, and then he turned up. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by Karnal on Apr 10th, 2012 at 1:53pm blackadder wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 5:17pm:
We're all Mellie, Blackadder, some more than others. And many of us here support Matty. Actually, if I'm not mistaken, I've seen a number of threads with you communicating with each other. How could you possibly be Matty? You'd have exactly the same opinions. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by cods on Apr 10th, 2012 at 5:36pm
I think it would help if a lot of the criticising of each other stopped, to be honest..
pick on the topic and not the personality.. can you imagine how boring it would be if we all agreed on everything.. some people are down right cruel others are petty..none of which is called debating. |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 10th, 2012 at 7:32pm
Skippy,
Quote:
Yes , Longweekend makes my day sometimes. ;D |
Title: Re: I've Had A Gut-ful...... Post by jalane on Apr 10th, 2012 at 9:30pm cods wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 5:36pm:
Quite so Cods...... this is NOT debating.!!! See?? You are getting the hang of it.!! :) No this is about arguing, talking, expressing, agitating, aggravating.... !!! ;) .. so if you expect debate??? with all that formalism, THIS IS NOT the place for you. That is NOT a personal attack OK??? its just the way it is. There really aren't very many rules here. I like that... you don't. ! Is that fair enough a comment?? So you should relax a bit and go with it.... 'cos all the contributors to this forum ( X - multi-sox) + new posters (y) = Z (real posts) ;D Z's do not necessarily agree with you. Fair enough. ?? :) |
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