The scandal surrounding Sydney's Star casino has deepened to embroil New South Wales Premier Barry O'Farrell in potentially the most damaging political controversy his government has faced.

A series of text messages made public on Monday suggest Mr O'Farrell wanted to "smash" Star.


So this is what we are to endure under Barry. Over a year in and he has achieved nothing, done nothing, has nothing happening and now has kicked off the scandal sheet for his team. Basically nothing has changed in NSW, it is still the perennial underachiever with the worst infrastructure and no plan to fix it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-02/ofarrell-implicated-in-campaign-against-star/3928176

He has to smash Star .. there may still be a few people with jobs working at star by the time he's finished with NSW and he can't have that

OFarrell's government is just ground hog day of the previous labor government.

Do nothing, get in silly political fights.


NSW deserves better.

It just shows that no matter if Labor or Liberal are in power anywhere its pretty much more of the same.
I wonder why these rusted on voters have never twigged that they are being conned.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 5:39pm:

It just shows that no matter if Labor or Liberal are in power anywhere its pretty much more of the same. I wonder why these rusted on voters have never twigged that they are being conned.

I thnk people are looking at the 3 or 4% at the margin, that slight leaning maybe sometimes in the direction you want.

Though in reality the opposite, going againt the one which is identical with that small leaning the other way.

Barry O'Fail???????????

He's done more in 1 year than Labor did in....what was it 14 or 16?....seemed like 60!

red baron wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 6:27pm:

Barry O'Fail??????????? He's done more in 1 year than Labor did in....what was it 14 or 16?....seemed like 60!

Like What?? i can not think of a single thing he has banged on about that has actually come to thing at all, so please list the great achievements even in fairness he has only been there a year and a bit what exactly has come to an actual program of action. I can tell you it is all in committees and reviews and reports, the very things that labor are criticised for. he has merged a couple of departments at great cost.

I was happy to vote labor out at the election to, but now where is the promise of action? it will not take long for the disappointment to set in

nairbe wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 7:09pm:

red baron wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 6:27pm: Barry O'Fail??????????? He's done more in 1 year than Labor did in....what was it 14 or 16?....seemed like 60! Like What?? i can not think of a single thing he has banged on about that has actually come to thing at all, so please list the great achievements even in fairness he has only been there a year and a bit what exactly has come to an actual program of action. I can tell you it is all in committees and reviews and reports, the very things that labor are criticised for. he has merged a couple of departments at great cost. I was happy to vote labor out at the election to, but now where is the promise of action? it will not take long for the disappointment to set in

Look it up instead of constantly whining over NSW being lead by a conservative government.

nairbe wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 7:09pm:

red baron wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 6:27pm: Barry O'Fail??????????? He's done more in 1 year than Labor did in....what was it 14 or 16?....seemed like 60! Like What?? i can not think of a single thing he has banged on about that has actually come to thing at all, so please list the great achievements even in fairness he has only been there a year and a bit what exactly has come to an actual program of action. I can tell you it is all in committees and reviews and reports, the very things that labor are criticised for. he has merged a couple of departments at great cost. I was happy to vote labor out at the election to, but now where is the promise of action? it will not take long for the disappointment to set in

We had a thread about this a few weeks ago and there were only a couple of achievements that rated a mention.....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1328486570/0

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4^th, 2012 at 7:20am:

nairbe wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 7:09pm: red baron wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 6:27pm: Barry O'Fail??????????? He's done more in 1 year than Labor did in....what was it 14 or 16?....seemed like 60! Like What?? i can not think of a single thing he has banged on about that has actually come to thing at all, so please list the great achievements even in fairness he has only been there a year and a bit what exactly has come to an actual program of action. I can tell you it is all in committees and reviews and reports, the very things that labor are criticised for. he has merged a couple of departments at great cost. I was happy to vote labor out at the election to, but now where is the promise of action? it will not take long for the disappointment to set in Look it up instead of constantly whining over NSW being lead by a conservative government.

That's their stock standard answer or they put someone down by throwing abuse at them when they can't answer a question

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4^th, 2012 at 7:20am:

nairbe wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 7:09pm: red baron wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 6:27pm: Barry O'Fail??????????? He's done more in 1 year than Labor did in....what was it 14 or 16?....seemed like 60! Like What?? i can not think of a single thing he has banged on about that has actually come to thing at all, so please list the great achievements even in fairness he has only been there a year and a bit what exactly has come to an actual program of action. I can tell you it is all in committees and reviews and reports, the very things that labor are criticised for. he has merged a couple of departments at great cost. I was happy to vote labor out at the election to, but now where is the promise of action? it will not take long for the disappointment to set in Look it up instead of constantly whining over NSW being lead by a conservative government.

That is not an answer and for your information as you clearly can not read i voted liberal at the last state election. There is no question labor were off and had to be removed. It will be 8 years minimum of Barry and if the current performance is to continue we are to have 8 slow years. NSW is in very big trouble, it simply has little to really get its economy going besides the building industry in Sydney.

So the great Barry O'Fail is showing his incredible lack of vision and leadership as well as his intention to continue the post olympic failure to develop infrastructure in NSW to an amazing 12 straight years.

The Sydney basin has needed a second airport since the 80's but all state and federal governments have failed to have the intestinal fortitude to do anything about it. Now Barry wants to use Canberra's airport as Sydneys second and have high speed rail. Barry fails to tell us that the Federal government adviser Tim Fisher has proposed the high speed rail and it will get built anyway. Yet again O'Fail has done nothing but let every one down with his inaction.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/airport-chaos-imminent-but-the-cockpits-vacant-20120406-1wgl1.html

nairbe wrote on Apr 4^th, 2012 at 7:58pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 7:20am: nairbe wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 7:09pm: red baron wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 6:27pm: Barry O'Fail??????????? He's done more in 1 year than Labor did in....what was it 14 or 16?....seemed like 60! Like What?? i can not think of a single thing he has banged on about that has actually come to thing at all, so please list the great achievements even in fairness he has only been there a year and a bit what exactly has come to an actual program of action. I can tell you it is all in committees and reviews and reports, the very things that labor are criticised for. he has merged a couple of departments at great cost. I was happy to vote labor out at the election to, but now where is the promise of action? it will not take long for the disappointment to set in Look it up instead of constantly whining over NSW being lead by a conservative government. That is not an answer and for your information as you clearly can not read i voted liberal at the last state election. There is no question labor were off and had to be removed. It will be 8 years minimum of Barry and if the current performance is to continue we are to have 8 slow years. NSW is in very big trouble, it simply has little to really get its economy going besides the building industry in Sydney.

And the building industry in Sydney is almost non-existent at present.

beware wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 3:37pm:

nairbe wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 7:58pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 7:20am: nairbe wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 7:09pm: red baron wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 6:27pm: Barry O'Fail??????????? He's done more in 1 year than Labor did in....what was it 14 or 16?....seemed like 60! Like What?? i can not think of a single thing he has banged on about that has actually come to thing at all, so please list the great achievements even in fairness he has only been there a year and a bit what exactly has come to an actual program of action. I can tell you it is all in committees and reviews and reports, the very things that labor are criticised for. he has merged a couple of departments at great cost. I was happy to vote labor out at the election to, but now where is the promise of action? it will not take long for the disappointment to set in Look it up instead of constantly whining over NSW being lead by a conservative government. That is not an answer and for your information as you clearly can not read i voted liberal at the last state election. There is no question labor were off and had to be removed. It will be 8 years minimum of Barry and if the current performance is to continue we are to have 8 slow years. NSW is in very big trouble, it simply has little to really get its economy going besides the building industry in Sydney. And the building industry in Sydney is almost non-existent at present.

Yes and that is the point. Sydney has depended on the whole growth idea for to long now. If it does not grow constantly in population and disposable income it is in big trouble. The services and building industries carried the city for the past 12 years but that has now ended with house prices so unrealistic and reality coming back to personal debt and disposable income.

NSW is in big long term trouble because it simply is not the big centre of the australian universe any more and has nothing to back it up.

With the majority that Barry has he should have the valour to do what must be done. No matter what he has a minimum of 8 years, enough time for voters to forget an unpopular but valiant decision. Sydney must have a new airport and O'Fail will head down if he is to gutless to take a serious decision.

Their own top transport bureaucrats and leading business people tell them if they don't start planning for a second airport right away the NSW economy will be stunted, the national economy will be badly hurt, the people of Sydney will again be subject to the levels of aircraft noise that drove them to protest in the streets in the 1990s, the roads around Kingsford Smith will be a permanent traffic gridlock and aircraft delays will ricochet throughout Australia's aviation system.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/airport-chaos-imminent-but-the-cockpits-vacant-20120406-1wgl1.html

Now it would seem that inaction is not enough for Bazza O'Fail but he needs to step it up to the wonten destruction of current working policy. As usual conservative thinking in tough times is to take the easy answer and destroy all the hard work with cheap politics.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3476244.htm

Barry has been a great disappointment so far.  With so much to do in NSW, he is paralised by indecisiveness.

if labor could find a charasmatic leader, a turnaround in the polls is possible.  Imagine Barry being a one term wonder ?

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 13^th, 2012 at 11:09am:

Barry has been a great disappointment so far.  With so much to do in NSW, he is paralised by indecisiveness. if labor could find a charasmatic leader, a turnaround in the polls is possible.  Imagine Barry being a one term wonder ?

Being fair labor stuffed it in NSW and it will be atleast 2 terms to rebuild any faith but Barry is the perfect picture of inaction and it will cost NSW. Given though was the good employment figure in the last month.

This was posted on another forum that i am a member of


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O'farrell is doing nothing, the Liberals must replace , no action Barry, and his handling of "star casino " issue, is deplorable, looks like labor all over again, sad to say, with NSW having no opposition, O'Farrell can't hack it, he hasn't got it, the Liberal party needs to tap the joke that is O'Farrell, and tell him its time, he must go Barry O'Farrell's first major political move was to trip over by: Bruce Hawker From: The Daily Telegraph April 13, 2012 12:00AM UNTIL recently the O'Farrell government threatened to go through its first term completely unnoticed. After 16 years in opposition it was hardly bursting at the seams with plans for NSW. The Coalition just drifted into office like a makeshift raft on the flood tide of discontent which swept Labor from office. For 12 months we heard nothing from an administration seemingly content to let the public's fresh memories of Labor's last dysfunctional years do its work for it. An opposition with just 20 members in the lower house was always going to struggle. But now Labor has an issue: The Star Casino scandal. Barry O'Farrell looks vulnerable. Just how much he knew of - or was involved in - the events surrounding the dismissal of Star Casino executive Sid Vaikunta, will play out in the coming days. Regardless of what is established, when allegations of impropriety reach deep into a leader's office the entire business of government becomes sidelined. All the resources of the Premier's team become focussed on dealing with that one issue. Other ministers and their offices can do little other than look on and hope. I know from my own time in a premier's office how completely diverting such events are. The ICAC inquiry into the so called Semple affair was a case in point and years before that I was a staffer in the Wran government and saw how preoccupied the premier's office became when Neville Wran was forced to stand aside for several months. Those ministerial offices untouched by the inquiry were powerless spectators of the events engulfing the premier's office. This, I strongly suspect, is precisely what is happening to the O'Farrell ministry. So, if O'Farrell survives the current inquiry, the big question will be how he and his government bounce back. Having set a rather relaxed pace in his first year, it will be very hard for him to come up with a circuit breaker to get back on the front foot. Before the Star inquiry he really wasn't under much pressure to do anything too dramatic. But now the dynamic has changed - the honeymoon is over and the public and media will be viewing the government and O'Farrell himself though more jaundiced eyes. This is the price he will pay for his casual approach to his first year. Possibly the only real option for O'Farrell is to have a major reshuffle in order to create some kind of momentum. The government is already top heavy with 20-year veterans of the Greiner era: Hartcher, Page, Hazzard, Souris, Gay and Skinner were all there when I was a youngish opposition staffer. A reshuffle would also give the Premier the excuse he needs to rid himself of Environment Minister Robyn Parker. If O'Farrell survives without making sweeping changes to his ministry he will be seen by the next generation of Coalition hopefuls as part of the problem - the chief protector of the old guard. If that happens he will be vulnerable as the Bairds and the Berejiklians start circling. Bruce Hawker is a political strategist and former chief of staff to Bob Carr

http://aussie-aussie-aussie.proboards.com/index.cgi

Ever since the big rains this year Gunning near Goulburn in NSW has had a boil water order. It will cost about 12 million to fix so that the community can have a potable water supply like we all take for granted. The federal Government have put up half, the council can find money but Bazza O'Fail is languishing in indecision. His concentration is on deferring NSW prosperity to Canberra with high speed rail and airports.

http://www.goulburnpost.com.au/news/local/news/general/the-nats-have-gone-to-water-on-gunning/2482218.aspx

ohh, don't tell me the poor buggers that voted liberal are already changing their minds? 

You wanted O'Failure, you've got him ... enjoy .... lets hope this is a lesson you learn ... you may not like the current govt, but thats no reason to just vote in the opposition ... you could get much worse .... you need detailed policies with costings ... or you get'another O'Failure

red baron wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 6:27pm:

Barry O'Fail??????????? He's done more in 1 year than Labor did in....what was it 14 or 16?....seemed like 60!

Red you often make valid comments - this is not one of them.

For most of the term of the Last Labor government they were a success with improvements in many areas – particularly in the Bob Carr period.

After Bob the wheel rather fell off politically.

In the end the Kristina Keneally government which was defeated showed all the hallmarks of being a very good performing group.

They were in power for too long and people are reluctant to vote for a female leader were the more genuine issues, most of the complaints are the same ones that are falsely used as the excuse to remove most state governments time after time.

O'Fail has lost control of one of the most important functions of State Government, Law And Order. This is not just stopping the bad guys but controling the police who are getting to think this is Starsky and Hutch. Now we are shooting at cars, i would say how long before an innocent person is killed but that has already happened when police tazered to death an innocent young man.

http://www.skynews.com.au/national/article.aspx?id=741947&vId=

While the NSW police play cowboy the gangs in the east are running wild shooting up whatever they like

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/latest-sydney-shooting-victim-refuses-police-entry-to-home-20120113-1pylf.html

And after all the gun laws, anti bikie laws and terrorist laws we are further than ever from control just 12 months into O'Fails 4 year term. God help us it will be war in the streets by 2015.

nairbe...It's not quite time to run up the white flag yet sunshine.

The Commissioner of Police has stated, that he just wants the Police Force to be allowed to get on with the job.

There is a huge problem out there but to say it is Barry O'Farrell's fault is so simplistic it defies description.

Two shooters were shot this morning outside Bada Bing nightclub. Apparently they were both teenagers and had fired a volley of shots into the club.

Following Police action the two were shot. One dead. The youngest was fourteen but when you put a gun in your hand you become responsible for it.

When you're a cop you soon realise that there are many teenagers out there who are 14 going on 35 because they have lived like ferals all their lives.

So I don't want to hear from the bleeding heart society on this.

You wanted a response, you got a response. This problem will not be solved by people in white gloves, nursing and caressing, it is time for the hard edged reply that should have been there a long time ago but for hand wringing types who never get their hands dirty.

Footnote: Great one's reply above me is typical of the mindless type of comment that contributes nothing and the type I am dropping from my ammo belt.

all these shooting are actually a good thing ... they were running out of ideas for Underbelly 2014

red baron wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 8:25am:

nairbe...It's not quite time to run up the white flag yet sunshine. The Commissioner of :Police has stated that he just wants the Police Force to be allow3ed to get on with the job. Two shooters were shot this morning outside Bada Bing nightclub. Apparently they were both tee4nagers and had fired a volley of shots into the club. Following Police action the two were shot. One dead. The youngest was fourteen but when you put a gun in your hand you become responsible for it, so I don't want to hear from the bleeding heart society on this. You wanted a response, you got a response.

Weak answer. This problem has been escalating and the police are running after their tales because they think going on a shoot up is the way to go. They are after bike gangs but it is not always them. Law and Order is at its worst and it is time the loopy right start asking the nsw government to take responsibility. Or is that only for labor governments?

nairbe....spoken with the lack of knowledge, that only a rank amateur can conjure up.

I don't know much in this cock a mame world but when it comes to Policing I know a lot!

red baron wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 8:35am:

nairbe....spoken with the lack of knowledge, that only a rank amateur can conjure up. I don't know much in this cock a mame world but when it comes to Policing I know a lot!

That is sweet Red being you are an ex yourself. And yes you will understand policing methods, you should also know the cultural problems and when weak leadership is at the helm the rank will get loose. You know this.

The police are being poorly lead and the situation is getting out of control. No leadership means no direction, you then have fallout all over the place. You know that too. The police are not the law, they are enforcement officers and need to be given direction by government and by what the law is. If government make bad law then they are on a hiding to nowhere.

I understand your defensiveness but i am saying the state government have fail the police leaving them under resourced, and without leadership and direction. I also understand the police being disillusioned with the hell they go through and are then failed by the courts because the governments are pushing them to do what is politically useful instead of what is legally binding.

Vote 1 Australian Greens.  The fair and sensible people.   :)

Poor Fatty O'Barrell his big mouth tripped over the words he spoke. Seems his big carbon tax challenge has bit the dust.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/nsw-drops-carbon-tax-challenge-20120414-1x041.html

Will this government actually get around to doing anything some time soon or is NSW doomed to be paralyzed for the next three years.

Now the Failure of Fatty O'Barrell is all someone else's fault.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8456113/baird-says-nsw-needs-greater-gst-share

Every state says the same so where does all the money go?

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/judiciary-out-of-touch-says-furious-ofarrell-as-bikie-is-freed-on-bail-20120426-1xo21.html

That's the one Bazza O'Fail. Blame the judiciary for your failure. you were handed the toughest anti bikie laws in the country and yet law and order has been on the slide ever since he was elected. This is a total failure and an attack on the separation between the government and the judiciary. Get your own house in check bazza

The NSW Libs will probably last 2 terms at best which is pretty poor form when we look at the corrupt and incompetent Labor govt they replaced.

nairbe wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 7:45am:

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/judiciary-out-of-touch-says-furious-ofarrell-as-bikie-is-freed-on-bail-20120426-1xo21.html That's the one Bazza O'Fail. Blame the judiciary for your failure. you were handed the toughest anti bikie laws in the country and yet law and order has been on the slide ever since he was elected. This is a total failure and an attack on the separation between the government and the judiciary. Get your own house in check bazza

Blame the looney lefty judges appointed by you looney mates. NSW labor.

blackadder wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 7:54am:

nairbe wrote on May 5th, 2012 at 7:45am: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/judiciary-out-of-touch-says-furious-ofarrell-as-bikie-is-freed-on-bail-20120426-1xo21.html That's the one Bazza O'Fail. Blame the judiciary for your failure. you were handed the toughest anti bikie laws in the country and yet law and order has been on the slide ever since he was elected. This is a total failure and an attack on the separation between the government and the judiciary. Get your own house in check bazza Blame the looney lefty judges appointed by you looney mates. NSW labor.

Judges dont make the laws...we elect govts to do that.

Children allowed to hunt solo
By Jamie Cummins (with Angela Owens)

Unsupervised children could be allowed to hunt feral animals on state owned land under new regulations proposed by the NSW Government.

The new regulations will allow children between the ages of 12 and 18 to hunt unsupervised in NSW forests for feral animals.

The laws governing hunting and gaming in NSW have come under review, with the new proposals being outlined in documents released today.

The new hunting regulations do not include the use of firearms, but do allow the use of a bowie knife and/or a dog.

Greens Member for the NSW Upper House, David Shoebridge says the new regulations are the latest in a push by the NSW Game Council to foster a hunting culture in the state.

"The best way they see of doing that is introducing more and more kids to hunting," he said.

"The idea they've got here is a 12 year old can finish school, put the schoolbag down, pick up three pig dogs and a bowie knife and get into our state forests and stab pigs to death, it's a pretty ugly culture."

The CEO of the Game Council of NSW, Brian Boyle, disagrees and believes that the changes will allow children to lead more active lifestyles.

"I think most people would far sooner see kids out hunting and getting into the natural environment with their parents or family than sitting in front of the computer playing computer games," he said.

Mr Boyle also believes that the changes to the regulations will ensure the welfare of hunted animals by making sure they are killed humanely.

"Two people getting in close, maybe under 30 metres, will more likely disturb the animal... if the animal's disturbed you could have a chance that the animal moves and the shot is not perfect, so it is about animal welfare concerns," he said.

NSW forests are used for a number of recreational activities including camping and bushwalking, and Mr Shoebridge believes that changing the regulations could make the areas more dangerous for everybody.

"I think most people would be very disturbed that you could have children as young as 12 with quite dangerous animals and dangerous weapons in our state forests," he said.

However, Mr Boyle from the Game Council believes that minors who are taught how to hunt safely from a young age will be responsible enough to do so unsupervised.

"Before they get to do that, they still have to have their parent's permission to be able to do that and the parents are the best people placed to make that decision," he said.
http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/05/04/3495781.htm?site=centralwest

Great stuff Bazza!  12 year olds out in our state forests with their knives and their dogs. 

What the hell is he thinking??

glee wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 10:25am:

Children allowed to hunt solo By Jamie Cummins (with Angela Owens) Unsupervised children could be allowed to hunt feral animals on state owned land under new regulations proposed by the NSW Government. The new regulations will allow children between the ages of 12 and 18 to hunt unsupervised in NSW forests for feral animals. The laws governing hunting and gaming in NSW have come under review, with the new proposals being outlined in documents released today. The new hunting regulations do not include the use of firearms, but do allow the use of a bowie knife and/or a dog. Greens Member for the NSW Upper House, David Shoebridge says the new regulations are the latest in a push by the NSW Game Council to foster a hunting culture in the state. "The best way they see of doing that is introducing more and more kids to hunting," he said. "The idea they've got here is a 12 year old can finish school, put the schoolbag down, pick up three pig dogs and a bowie knife and get into our state forests and stab pigs to death, it's a pretty ugly culture." The CEO of the Game Council of NSW, Brian Boyle, disagrees and believes that the changes will allow children to lead more active lifestyles. "I think most people would far sooner see kids out hunting and getting into the natural environment with their parents or family than sitting in front of the computer playing computer games," he said. Mr Boyle also believes that the changes to the regulations will ensure the welfare of hunted animals by making sure they are killed humanely. "Two people getting in close, maybe under 30 metres, will more likely disturb the animal... if the animal's disturbed you could have a chance that the animal moves and the shot is not perfect, so it is about animal welfare concerns," he said. NSW forests are used for a number of recreational activities including camping and bushwalking, and Mr Shoebridge believes that changing the regulations could make the areas more dangerous for everybody. "I think most people would be very disturbed that you could have children as young as 12 with quite dangerous animals and dangerous weapons in our state forests," he said. However, Mr Boyle from the Game Council believes that minors who are taught how to hunt safely from a young age will be responsible enough to do so unsupervised. "Before they get to do that, they still have to have their parent's permission to be able to do that and the parents are the best people placed to make that decision," he said. http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/05/04/3495781.htm?site=centralwest Great stuff Bazza!  12 year olds out in our state forests with their knives and their dogs.  What the hell is he thinking??

In another life I used to love shooting rabbits as a young fella. We used to fill the freezer with them on a good day so although the thought of young people running around the bush shooting up everything horrifies me today I would be a hypocrite if I didn't acknowledge how much fun I used to have doing the exact same thing.

I have nothing against those who live in the bush using guns to keep the feral animal population down.  Heck, even I have a greyhound for rabbit control.  Feral pigs are another story though, and the thought of kids out there with knives thinking they can take on a feral pig is a bit of a worry.  Not only that - but using dogs as well is bound to lead to trouble.  Dogs with a kill are not always responsive to commands no matter how well trained.

blackadder wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 7:54am:

nairbe wrote on May 5th, 2012 at 7:45am: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/judiciary-out-of-touch-says-furious-ofarrell-as-bikie-is-freed-on-bail-20120426-1xo21.html That's the one Bazza O'Fail. Blame the judiciary for your failure. you were handed the toughest anti bikie laws in the country and yet law and order has been on the slide ever since he was elected. This is a total failure and an attack on the separation between the government and the judiciary. Get your own house in check bazza Blame the looney lefty judges appointed by you looney mates. NSW labor.

The lesson that never seems be learnt is that tougher laws do not stop crime. The truth is that social change is needed. This is impossible of course as the greed runs far too deep in our society and any talk of change and responsibility is met with cry's of "socialists scum".

glee wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 10:43am:

I have nothing against those who live in the bush using guns to keep the feral animal population down.  Heck, even I have a greyhound for rabbit control.  Feral pigs are another story though, and the thought of kids out there with knives thinking they can take on a feral pig is a bit of a worry.  Not only that - but using dogs as well is bound to lead to trouble.  Dogs with a kill are not always responsive to commands no matter how well trained.

I think its s stupid and irresponsible idea..so I agree with you  :)

glee wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 10:43am:

I have nothing against those who live in the bush using guns to keep the feral animal population down.  Heck, even I have a greyhound for rabbit control.  Feral pigs are another story though, and the thought of kids out there with knives thinking they can take on a feral pig is a bit of a worry.  Not only that - but using dogs as well is bound to lead to trouble.  Dogs with a kill are not always responsive to commands no matter how well trained.

There is a difficult question to answer, i know i find it hard to let my children do what i did at the same age. I tell myself that the world is a dangerous place but the truth is that it is not really any worse it's just there are alot more people so a lot more crime. We also used to pretend a lot of things didn't happen years ago like rape and child abuse. It is simply to complex to have 12 year olds running around with 22's cleaning up rabbits, there will be too many injuries and death with the numbers we are having.

Isn't it hilarious. We had Howard there for years and he just wouldn't put up the funds and now we have O'Fail Who just won't be able to find the funds. He will complain about the north west rail link that he won't build. poor Pacific Highway it just won't get finished before the first bits fall to pieces.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/13636012/pacific-highway-to-get-3-5b-upgrade/