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Queensland is the fourth state in four years to dismiss a Labor government. Those states contain 87 per cent of Australia's population. And the federal Labor government lost its majority in the same span. Could there be a message? Certainly. But it's not the one Tony Abbott was hoping it would be when he said on Friday that the Queensland election would be a referendum on the carbon tax. In a poll of 400 voters in 20 of the seats that swung from Labor to the conservatives, only 9 per cent of Queenslanders said they were most influenced by federal issues, according to the Liberal Party's pollster of choice, Crosby Textor. Advertisement: Story continues below In other words, it was a state election fought on state issues. But there is a striking similarity between the shifts against Labor in Queensland on Saturday and in NSW a year earlier. The swing against Labor in Queensland was 16 per cent and in NSW 16.5 per cent. And the Labor primary vote in Queensland was reduced to 27 per cent; in NSW it was 25 per cent. Is this more than coincidence? Is it a premonition of the next federal result for Labor, which is registering a primary vote of about 30 per cent? Labor sent Anthony Albanese out yesterday to explain that it was the "it's time" factor that killed Labor in those states. "Queensland Labor has governed for 20 out of the last 22 years. So eventually in our political cycles, it catches up with you - as it did in NSW after 16 consecutive years of government last year." John Stirton of Nielsen agrees that this is a powerful force: "Once voters get into their heads the idea that it's time for a change - even when they're relatively happy with a government as they were with John Howard's - you're gone." But a Labor historian and former minister in the Wran government, Rodney Cavalier, thinks Labor is deluding itself if it thinks that this is just a cyclical swing: "The Labor project is at an end. We're watching a prolonged death rattle. There is an absolute crisis of confidence and belief. ''Labor has died from below. There are no Labor branches left in most of the towns of Australia.''Anna Bligh seemed to concur. In her concession speech she said Queenslanders had emphatically voted for a change of government but also for change in Labor: "Our challenge now is to hear that challenge and to turn our best efforts to rebuilding and renewing our cause and our sense of purpose." Federal Labor, even with its present dismal polling, does not face a devastation as bad as that in Queensland or NSW. An election tomorrow would give Abbott a victory about as big as that of Howard in 1996, says Stirton: "We're not talking historic defeat federally at the moment. We are talking about defeat in the normal range." But defeat nevertheless. A senior Labor official said last night: "You need to stand for something. We need to think very hard about that or we are missing the message." This is not about clever marketing or exercises in branding. It's about belief and purpose. That is the message. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/federal-alp-needs-to-stand-for-something-20120325-1vsnu.html#ixzz1qAWq06ay

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/federal-alp-needs-to-stand-for-something-20120325-1vsnu.html

No, its the end of liberal progressive fascism's hijacking of the Party, probably the end of it in the Liberal Party too.  Radical reform command socialist Government is almost done. 8-)

I just hope Tony Abbott wakes up to himself..

he does play into the Labs hands from time to time.. and they are right so he should take notice..

we want the REAL Tony.. not the one that has to be trained on how to speak and what to say..

listen to the people not some drongo from overseas.

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......Labor historian and former minister in the Wran government, Rodney Cavalier, thinks Labor is deluding itself if it thinks that this is just a cyclical swing: "The Labor project is at an end. We're watching a prolonged death rattle. There is an absolute crisis of confidence and belief. ''Labor has died from below. There are no Labor branches left in most of the towns of Australia.''.........

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

Quote: ......Labor historian and former minister in the Wran government, Rodney Cavalier, thinks Labor is deluding itself if it thinks that this is just a cyclical swing: "The Labor project is at an end. We're watching a prolonged death rattle. There is an absolute crisis of confidence and belief. ''Labor has died from below. There are no Labor branches left in most of the towns of Australia.''.........

it sure is..... the unions are past their use by date.. but the ALP needs.them so they keep giving them rope...thats not in the countries best interests as far as I am concerned..

this 12% superfunding... will hurt small business, gillard gives everyone the impression the extra 3% will be paid for out of the mining tax... well this is not the case..the business will have to find that... they might well be talking about tax breaks for small business..but at the end of the day since when have tax breaks ever covered the real cost?

Its the end of radical can-do comm and liberal socialism - the electorate is not tolerating that style of Government - the Rejection of Keating, the rejection of Jeff Kennett, the rejection of John Howard, the rejection of Kristina Keneally, the rejection of Anna Bligh and soon to be the rejection of Juliar - the conviction - can do radical liberal fascist.

Cambell Newman is also of a similar ilk and will soon find his support sliding, he would do well to note the style of conservative Government in NSW and Victoria and not go upsetting anyone of sticking his nose into other peoples business where it does not belong or tell us how to live our lives. 8-) 8-) 8-)

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

Its the end of radical can-do comm and liberal socialism - the electorate is not tolerating that style of Government - the Rejection of Keating, the rejection of Jeff Kennett, the rejection of John Howard, the rejection of Kristina Keneally, the rejection of Anna Bligh and soon to be the rejection of Juliar - the conviction - can do radical liberal fascist. Cambell Newman is also of a similar ilk and will soon find his support sliding, her would do well to note the style of conservative Government in NSW and Victoria and not go upsetting anyone of sticking his nose into other peoples business where it does not belong or tell us how to live our lives. 8-) 8-) 8-)

You'd dislike yourself if you were a politician, so we're going to ignore your comments about real politicians from now on...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 8:58am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:56am: Its the end of radical can-do command and liberal socialism - the electorate is not tolerating that style of Government - the Rejection of Keating, the rejection of Jeff Kennett, the rejection of John Howard, the rejection of Kristina Keneally, the rejection of Anna Bligh and soon to be the rejection of Juliar - the conviction - can do radical liberal fascist. Cambell Newman is also of a similar ilk and will soon find his support sliding, her would do well to note the style of conservative Government in NSW and Victoria and not go upsetting anyone of sticking his nose into other peoples business where it does not belong or tell us how to live our lives. 8-) 8-) 8-) You'd dislike yourself if you were a politician, so we're going to ignore your comments about real politicians from now on...

Nobody cares what you think nutjob. :P

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:00am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:58am: corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:56am: Its the end of radical can-do comm and liberal socialism - the electorate is not tolerating that style of Government - the Rejection of Keating, the rejection of Jeff Kennett, the rejection of John Howard, the rejection of Kristina Keneally, the rejection of Anna Bligh and soon to be the rejection of Juliar - the conviction - can do radical liberal fascist. Cambell Newman is also of a similar ilk and will soon find his support sliding, her would do well to note the style of conservative Government in NSW and Victoria and not go upsetting anyone of sticking his nose into other peoples business where it does not belong or tell us how to live our lives. 8-) 8-) 8-) You'd dislike yourself if you were a politician, so we're going to ignore your comments about real politicians from now on... Nobody cares what you think nutjob. :P

... said the welfare_bludger!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:02am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 9:00am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:58am: corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:56am: Its the end of radical can-do comm and liberal socialism - the electorate is not tolerating that style of Government - the Rejection of Keating, the rejection of Jeff Kennett, the rejection of John Howard, the rejection of Kristina Keneally, the rejection of Anna Bligh and soon to be the rejection of Juliar - the conviction - can do radical liberal fascist. Cambell Newman is also of a similar ilk and will soon find his support sliding, her would do well to note the style of conservative Government in NSW and Victoria and not go upsetting anyone of sticking his nose into other peoples business where it does not belong or tell us how to live our lives. 8-) 8-) 8-) You'd dislike yourself if you were a politician, so we're going to ignore your comments about real politicians from now on... Nobody cares what you think nutjob. :P ... said the welfare_bludger!

Pot calling kettle Tax and welfare cheat? ::)

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:04am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 9:02am: corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 9:00am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:58am: corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:56am: Its the end of radical can-do comm and liberal socialism - the electorate is not tolerating that style of Government - the Rejection of Keating, the rejection of Jeff Kennett, the rejection of John Howard, the rejection of Kristina Keneally, the rejection of Anna Bligh and soon to be the rejection of Juliar - the conviction - can do radical liberal fascist. Cambell Newman is also of a similar ilk and will soon find his support sliding, her would do well to note the style of conservative Government in NSW and Victoria and not go upsetting anyone of sticking his nose into other peoples business where it does not belong or tell us how to live our lives. 8-) 8-) 8-) You'd dislike yourself if you were a politician, so we're going to ignore your comments about real politicians from now on... Nobody cares what you think nutjob. :P ... said the welfare_bludger! Pot calling kettle Tax and welfare cheat? ::)

I don't cheat on my taxes - my accountant does my tax - and I am not receiving any welfare payments from the government. Idiot.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

Quote: ......Labor historian and former minister in the Wran government, Rodney Cavalier, thinks Labor is deluding itself if it thinks that this is just a cyclical swing: "The Labor project is at an end. We're watching a prolonged death rattle. There is an absolute crisis of confidence and belief. ''Labor has died from below. There are no Labor branches left in most of the towns of Australia.''.........

Has the Liberal Party Grown from the bottom?
Are there new branches springing up in towns & cities?

Or as with Labor has their membership declined to dangerous levels?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:06am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 9:04am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 9:02am: corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 9:00am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:58am: corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:56am: Its the end of radical can-do comm and liberal socialism - the electorate is not tolerating that style of Government - the Rejection of Keating, the rejection of Jeff Kennett, the rejection of John Howard, the rejection of Kristina Keneally, the rejection of Anna Bligh and soon to be the rejection of Juliar - the conviction - can do radical liberal fascist. Cambell Newman is also of a similar ilk and will soon find his support sliding, her would do well to note the style of conservative Government in NSW and Victoria and not go upsetting anyone of sticking his nose into other peoples business where it does not belong or tell us how to live our lives. 8-) 8-) 8-) You'd dislike yourself if you were a politician, so we're going to ignore your comments about real politicians from now on... Nobody cares what you think nutjob. :P ... said the welfare_bludger! Pot calling kettle Tax and welfare cheat? ::) I don't cheat on my taxes - my accountant does my tax - and I am not receiving any welfare payments from the government. Idiot.

You live off the proceeds of a liberal welfare state - you are a tax cheat and a welfare cheat - oh yes you are... :P :P :P

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:09am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:46am: Quote: ......Labor historian and former minister in the Wran government, Rodney Cavalier, thinks Labor is deluding itself if it thinks that this is just a cyclical swing: "The Labor project is at an end. We're watching a prolonged death rattle. There is an absolute crisis of confidence and belief. ''Labor has died from below. There are no Labor branches left in most of the towns of Australia.''......... Has the Liberal Party Grown from the bottom? Are there new branches springing up in towns & cities? Or as with Labor has their membership declined to dangerous levels?

I don't know for sure. But one thing I do know is that Union membership levels are near all-time lows and ALP membership is declining as well. Not good news for die-hard Leftards...

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 9:06am: corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 9:04am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 9:02am: corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 9:00am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:58am: corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:56am: Its the end of radical can-do comm and liberal socialism - the electorate is not tolerating that style of Government - the Rejection of Keating, the rejection of Jeff Kennett, the rejection of John Howard, the rejection of Kristina Keneally, the rejection of Anna Bligh and soon to be the rejection of Juliar - the conviction - can do radical liberal fascist. Cambell Newman is also of a similar ilk and will soon find his support sliding, her would do well to note the style of conservative Government in NSW and Victoria and not go upsetting anyone of sticking his nose into other peoples business where it does not belong or tell us how to live our lives. 8-) 8-) 8-) You'd dislike yourself if you were a politician, so we're going to ignore your comments about real politicians from now on... Nobody cares what you think nutjob. :P ... said the welfare_bludger! Pot calling kettle Tax and welfare cheat? ::) I don't cheat on my taxes - my accountant does my tax - and I am not receiving any welfare payments from the government. Idiot. You live off the proceeds of a liberal welfare state - you are a tax cheat and a welfare cheat - oh yes you are... :P :P :P

Ummm, right. I live off the money my business makes through my own hard work. You live off what I pay the government in taxes. Moron.  :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

cods wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 8:44am:

listen to the people not some drongo from overseas.

So is that your way of saying not to listen to either Gillard or Abbott?

Corrupt liberalism is collapsing in the ALP and I am loving it. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:09am:

Has the Liberal Party Grown from the bottom?

;D