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Title: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:45am

Labor is waiting for 2014 for Australia to cut and run from the Afghanistan Civil War Defeat.

My questions are, what date would a coalition government cut and run if elected in the next federal election

And why should we wait until after the next election to cut and run from the lost Afghanistan Civil War.

Afghanistan's Taliban suspend peace talks with US

The Taliban in Afghanistan have suspended preliminary peace negotiations with the United States.

The group blamed the Americans' "ever-changing position" and said US efforts to involve the Afghan authorities were a key stumbling block to further talks.

The Taliban regard the Kabul government as illegitimate.

Meanwhile President Hamid Karzai urged Nato troops to leave Afghan villages after a US soldier killed 16 civilians. US officials denied any major rift.

Officials told the BBC that the priority for Afghan government was to avoid civilian casualties at any cost.

President Karzai told visiting US defence secretary Leon Panetta that Afghan troops should take the lead for nationwide security in 2013.

International security forces have to be taken out of Afghan village outposts and return to [larger] bases”

In a statement issued on Thursday, the Taliban said they had agreed to talks focusing on a political office being established in Qatar and on a prisoner exchange.

They said they were suspending the talks because of "the shaky, erratic and vague standpoint of the Americans".

US diplomatic sources say the Taliban were told by US negotiators that the Afghan government had to be a part of any negotiations.

The Taliban statement reiterated that the group "considers talking with the Kabul administration as pointless."

Other conditions reportedly set by the US in the talks include accepting of the Afghan constitution - which the Taliban have rejected - and publicly denouncing al-Qaeda.

The BBC's Quentin Sommerville in Kabul says the Taliban's suspension of the talks is a significant setback for efforts to begin substantive negotiations with the insurgents.

It was thought that a deal to exchange five Taliban fighters currently held at Guantanamo Bay for a kidnapped American soldier was only weeks away, our correspondent adds.

The US has so far declined to comment on the statement. An unnamed US official told AFP news agency: "I can't guess what the Taliban's motivations were."

Withdrawal plan
The killing of 16 Afghan villagers - including women and children - on Sunday has intensified calls for the withdrawal of foreign troops.

A statement from President Karzai's office said that as a result, "international security forces have to be taken out of Afghan village outposts and return to (larger) bases".

The American soldier accused of carrying out the shooting was based at a small compound in Kandahar province. Mr Karzai said the incident had harmed relations with the US.

US officials later appeared to play down the statement. Pentagon spokesman George Little told reporters it reflected "President Karzai's strong interest in moving as quickly as possible to a fully independent and sovereign Afghanistan".

He added: "We believe that we need to continue to work together because that's an American goal as well."

The US soldier - who has not been named or charged - was flown to Kuwait on Wednesday.

Afghan MPs had demanded that he be tried in Afghanistan. Correspondents say that scenario is very unlikely.

Nato and the US administration have insisted that there will be no change of strategy in Afghanistan.

Nato's International Security Assistance Force plans to withdraw all of its combat forces by the end of 2014. American troops are also following that timetable.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17379163

Taliban talks

Taliban peace talks had not formally begun but analysts say some steps had been taken to move such discussions closer
The Taliban set up a diplomatic office in the Gulf state of Qatar in January, the preferred location should peace talks begin
US officials have met the Taliban in Qatar and held preliminary discussions
One of the Taliban conditions was the release of five prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay. Negotiations on their fate were under way
A senior aide to President Hamid Karzai went to the prison and met the men

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by Swagman on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:27am

The Greens need to get over their addictions to intervening in other countries business and political assassinations and focus on self improvement books... :D

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:36am

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:27am:

The Greens need to get over their addictions to intervening in other countries business and political assassinations and focus on self improvement books... :D

;D ;D ;D ;D

So you are anti foreign policy, anti foreign aid, anti foreign Australian embassies/ high commissions ~ so to co-ordernate the protection of overseas Australians when requiring replacement passports, or assistance in natural disasters, anti trade negotiations, and so on?

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:37am

Soul Food For Wounded Socialists...

:)

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:41am

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:36am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:27am:

The Greens need to get over their addictions to intervening in other countries business and political assassinations and focus on self improvement books... :D

;D ;D ;D ;D

Just anti socialist with a view to telling other people how to live their lives - especially when the people doing the telling and interfering are more screwed up. Never against giving emergency aid with NO STRINGS ATTACHED

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by Swagman on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:15am

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

Not the Greens and that's for sure.... ;)

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

They have no 'cut and run' plan and never did.
The plan has always been to train Afghan troops and hand over responsibility to them for their own nations security by 2014, in conjunction with sending as many terrorist leaders to hell as the SAS can shoot.

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:50am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

you have to remember that Greens are basically cowards. its even in their membership form. it asks 'are you a coward?' unless you tick the box you will never advance thru the ranks.

There are a few other dogy questsion too like 'do you hate jews?' and ' will you donate to Hamas regularly?'

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:05pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

Personally speaking, the world would be a better place if they were all rounded up and sent to Afghanistan to give the Taliban fighters a group hug.

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:35pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

Personally speaking, the world would be a better place if they were all rounded up and sent to Afghanistan to give the Taliban fighters a group hug.

now there's a policy i agree with :))

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:37pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

You mean the terrorists that you will be handing the trained troops over too.

The one that the Americans have been negotiating with.

So Liberal and Labor have been sacrificing Australians to train Afghan troops up to hand them to the Terrorists.

Are you lot really that stupid?

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:44pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

Been there done that discussion, yet for those that haven't heard

Longie is calling Desmond Tutu a jew hater because like the NSW Greens, he support the BDS.

A non violent boycott of Israeli businesses, all businesses, so not Jewish ones as Long tries to make out.

As for Greens being cowards, we would not of stood firm against the waste of Life and Limb of Australian Troops because Liberal and Labor will not admit that they stuffed up ... and so condemn more Australians to war on lies.

It is the old parties, and the supporters of these old parties that back the continual destruction of Australian families that are the cowards.

Grow some guts and and admit you are wrong. Then enact the safe return of our troops at the quickest possible time.

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 2:15pm

Julia Gillard, Bob Brown and the Greens and John Howard have killed Australian Soldiers and civilians as well as foreign soldiers and civilians, simply because they cannot mind their own business and let others mind theirs.

Toxic Neurotic Obsessed Controlling Pathological Blood on Her Hands
8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 2:44pm

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

you are cowards and anti-semites. even your own words condemn you.

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by Dnarever on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 2:56pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

you have to remember that Greens are basically cowards.

The conservatives have always been very brave with other peoples childrens lives.

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 3:09pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 2:56pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

you have to remember that Greens are basically cowards.

The conservatives have always been very brave with other peoples childrens lives.

while the Greens just surrender and roll over. true cowards - all the way.

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 3:11pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 2:44pm:

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

you are cowards and anti-semites. even your own words condemn you.

I can only be a coward if I am not willing to defend my own position.

I can only be anti jewish, if I have been anti jewish. No evidence of that either.

How about cutting your lies Long

i.e

Post 8 in this thread

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1331852181

Admitting my point was correct previously, and then saying the same point was wrong next post.

is your state of lying so ingrained that you don't realise you are doing it.

Rhetorical, we all already know the answer.

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 3:13pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 2:56pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

Labor won't be in Govt in 2014..... ;D

So who will be ... and if you answer the coalition, what is their plan for the cut and run?

you have to remember that Greens are basically cowards.

The conservatives have always been very brave with other peoples childrens lives.

while the Greens just surrender and roll over. true cowards - all the way.

only way to defend Liberals politics of murdering Australian Troops is by deflecting Long.

You are as much a bastard as your political party is in condemning Australian families to such waste.

Shame on you and your coward political party.

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 4:25pm

you are still a anti-semitic coward. you run from protecting the innocent while blockading one side of a dispute.

you are a low form of life.

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 4:30pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

Nothing can excuse the actions of those who refuse to mind their own business and interfere in the affairs of others - no excuse can allay the blood guilt of the consequences of their actions. This is the root of evil. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 4:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

you are still a anti-semitic coward. you run from protecting the innocent while blockading one side of a dispute.

you are a low form of life.

Terror attacks of the Israeli Military against Palestinian children does not make the Israeli Military innocent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEUAPDeLkpU

To support terror attacks against children makes you the lowlife.

Goes hand in hand with your hatred of Australian Soldiers.

That is the only logical reason why you would want them dead ... you and the old political parties.

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 5:02pm

____ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 4:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

you are still a anti-semitic coward. you run from protecting the innocent while blockading one side of a dispute.

you are a low form of life.

you remain a bigot, a coward and a racist/anti-semite. nothing you say makes any difference because when it is all boiled down, you hate jews and refuse to go into battle to defend ANYONE.

coward.

Title: Re: Labor's 2014 Cut And Run
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 5:24pm

Socialism...Why Cant Evil People Mind Their Own Business?
:D :D :D