http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/13077787/carr-tells-labor-to-stop-gabbling-to-the-media/

Incoming foreign minister Bob Carr has issued a warning to his Labor Party colleagues to stop leaking internal details to the media.

The former New South Wales premier was appointed to the role by Prime Minister Julia Gillard on Friday, after a week of speculation about whether he would be drafted in to fill Mark Arbib's vacant Senate seat.

Mr Carr replaces Kevin Rudd, who was demoted to the backbench after losing Monday's leadership ballot to Ms Gillard.

Mr Carr says while ministerial reshuffles can be brutal affairs, the practice of "gabbling" to the media has to be excised from Labor culture.

"It's always surrounded by angst and disappointment. There's no other way of doing it," he said.

"A leader has got to make choices - a leader has got to choose.

"I had to do that as leader and it left people disappointed who thought sometimes quite reasonably that they could have done a job as well as the ministers chosen.

"But in the end, the team's got to be assembled by the leader and so it has been."

Not even a Senator and he's already issuing orders. I thought Gillard was supposed to do this

hhhmmmmm

Could the factions be installing a replacement for Gillard?

Comes across as Labor still hasn't got a clue on how to handle the new news cycle.

It seems to be drowning ... on a very similar level as Abbott and his useless men (and women) are.

Good man. I knew instantly that he was a good pick for the team. An excellent pick in fact. Ten years leading a government. In the bear pit! TEN! It's not even day one yet and already he's making a mark.

TEN YEARS!

Fan-TAS-tic!  ;D ;D

Gist wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:25pm:

Good man. I knew instantly that he was a good pick for the team. An excellent pick in fact. Ten years leading a government. In the bear pit! TEN! It's not even day one yet and already he's making a mark. TEN YEARS! Fan-TAS-tic!  ;D ;D

Out of curiosity, how strong was the opposition during those 10 years?

Outstanding.....Carr is already showing he will support Julia Gillard and slap down detractors.....Labor needs more people like Bob Carr.....I also notice Julie Bishop has tried to be relevant and failed again.....Why do you Liberals tolerate this useless woman....Julie Bishop has no idea and it shows every time she opens her vile mouth.....I notice she used the I am woman tripe to try and gain some pathetic advantage today.....She is such a flake and deserves no sympathy for being piss weak???

Bob Carr the man who failed NSW and saw it happening and jumped its ship back in 2005 to avoid the consequences

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:34pm:

Gist wrote on Mar 3rd, 2012 at 8:25pm: Good man. I knew instantly that he was a good pick for the team. An excellent pick in fact. Ten years leading a government. In the bear pit! TEN! It's not even day one yet and already he's making a mark. TEN YEARS! Fan-TAS-tic!  ;D ;D Out of curiosity, how strong was the opposition during those 10 years?

Going on my rickety memory, he won office against Nick Greiner who was no pushover himself. You're right though, the libs then went ever more into limbo. They became useless as tits on a bull. Once Carr left the infighting began. Fatty O'Barrell didn't exactly win office, he just had to stand idly by for the train wreck that was Labor to finally get to election day.

It's a shame though because good people went to waste, probably on both sides. Poor Keneally was burnt out by the end.

Gist wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:25pm:

Good man. I knew instantly that he was a good pick for the team. An excellent pick in fact. Ten years leading a government. In the bear pit! TEN! It's not even day one yet and already he's making a mark. TEN YEARS! Fan-TAS-tic!  ;D ;D

Jules Gilly needs a daddy figure like Carr. Poor hopless girl needs a boy, a man, an old fart to help her lead.

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:38pm:

Outstanding.....Carr is already showing he will support Julia Gillard and slap down detractors.....Labor needs more people like Bob Carr.....I also notice Julie Bishop has tried to be relevant and failed again.....Why do you Liberals tolerate this useless woman....Julie Bishop has no idea and it shows every time she opens her vile mouth.....I notice she used the I am woman tripe to try and gain some pathetic advantage today.....She is such a flake and deserves no sympathy for being piss weak???

Yeh, sure, thats what we need - we need to tell everyone to shut up and stop causing trouble for the corrupt basterds running the country (into the ground)...not!!!! :D :D :D

can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????..

I bet he can!

cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:31am:

can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can!

The faction that put him in certainly see it that way

Maqqa wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:37am:

cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way

We could do one whole hell of a lot worse than Carr.

Kat wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:45am:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:37am: cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way We could do one hell of a lot worse than Carr.

Carr destroyed NSW!!!

Kat wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:45am:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:37am: cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way We could do one whole hell of a lot worse than Carr.

We are - it's called Gillard

beware wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

Kat wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:45am: Maqqa wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:37am: cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way We could do one hell of a lot worse than Carr. Carr destroyed NSW!!!

look! you are supposed to FORGET all that...

this is all about...

well there is no one else....is there???????????..

and everyone knows she wont be there when the next election comes around..everyone knows she cant win it

cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:50am:

beware wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:47am: Kat wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:45am: Maqqa wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:37am: cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way We could do one hell of a lot worse than Carr. Carr destroyed NSW!!! look! you are supposed to FORGET all that... this is all about... well there is no one else....is there???????????.. and everyone knows she wont be there when the next election comes around..everyone knows she cant win it

It was Abbott's fault that Carr destroyed NSW

Abbott was also responsible for the Titanic sinking and had a hand in the Xmas story

Maqqa wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:50am: beware wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:47am: Kat wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:45am: Maqqa wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:37am: cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way We could do one hell of a lot worse than Carr. Carr destroyed NSW!!! look! you are supposed to FORGET all that... this is all about... well there is no one else....is there???????????.. and everyone knows she wont be there when the next election comes around..everyone knows she cant win it It was Abbott's fault that Carr destroyed NSW Abbott was also responsible for the Titanic sinking and had a hand in the Xmas story

Hes never actually done anything after all these years in public life...thats one of the problems
You have to put yourself on the line to make mistakes and any idiot can stand on the sidelines yelling out abuse and pointing to the mistakes brave people have made while ignoring their achievments.
Abbott has always been one of those idiots standing on the sidelines pointing out others mistakes while never achieving anything himself.

Kat wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:45am:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:37am: cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way We could do one whole hell of a lot worse than Carr.

YEP phony tony.

skippy. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

Kat wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:45am: Maqqa wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:37am: cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way We could do one whole hell of a lot worse than Carr. YEP phony tony.

I was thinking along those lines, yes.....

adelcrow wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 10:41am:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:54am: cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:50am: beware wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:47am: Kat wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:45am: Maqqa wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:37am: cods wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way We could do one hell of a lot worse than Carr. Carr destroyed NSW!!! look! you are supposed to FORGET all that... this is all about... well there is no one else....is there???????????.. and everyone knows she wont be there when the next election comes around..everyone knows she cant win it It was Abbott's fault that Carr destroyed NSW Abbott was also responsible for the Titanic sinking and had a hand in the Xmas story Hes never actually done anything after all these years in public life...thats one of the problems You have to put yourself on the line to make mistakes and any idiot can stand on the sidelines yelling out abuse and pointing to the mistakes brave people have made while ignoring their achievments. Abbott has always been one of those idiots standing on the sidelines pointing out others mistakes while never achieving anything himself.

he was part of a very successful government so your "always" comment shows your true nature

Maqqa wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 11:07am:

he was part of a very successful government so your "always" comment shows your true nature

Yeah, a part by their own admission they hid during election campaigns ;)

Kinda like he now hides from serious news and political programs.

Abbott hid behind Howard and Costellos achievments and he is still doing it.
At least Howard and Costello had the balls to actually take the hard decisions, make mistakes and learn from them.
All Abbott does is ridicule others while being nothing more than a hollow man.

adelcrow wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 11:19am:

Abbott hid behind Howard and Costellos achievments and he is still doing it. At least Howard and Costello had the balls to actually take the hard decisions, make mistakes and learn from them. All Abbott does is ridicule others while being nothing more than a hollow man.

At least he has something to hide behind

Gillard is still fixing Rudd's mess and cleaning up her own stuff ups

Maqqa wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 11:54am:

adelcrow wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 11:19am: Abbott hid behind Howard and Costellos achievments and he is still doing it. At least Howard and Costello had the balls to actually take the hard decisions, make mistakes and learn from them. All Abbott does is ridicule others while being nothing more than a hollow man. At least he has something to hide behind Gillard is still fixing Rudd's mess and cleaning up her own stuff ups

Today I saw and heard Bob Brown speaking and noted the similarity to the way JuLiar speaks--

The upper lips of both remain pressed tight while their bottom lips reveal teeth of rodents.

Maybe that's the way of hypocrites.

Maqqa wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:18pm:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/13077787/carr-tells-labor-to-stop-gabbling-to-the-media/ Incoming foreign minister Bob Carr has issued a warning to his Labor Party colleagues to stop leaking internal details to the media. The former New South Wales premier was appointed to the role by Prime Minister Julia Gillard on Friday, after a week of speculation about whether he would be drafted in to fill Mark Arbib's vacant Senate seat. Mr Carr replaces Kevin Rudd, who was demoted to the backbench after losing Monday's leadership ballot to Ms Gillard. Mr Carr says while ministerial reshuffles can be brutal affairs, the practice of "gabbling" to the media has to be excised from Labor culture. "It's always surrounded by angst and disappointment. There's no other way of doing it," he said. "A leader has got to make choices - a leader has got to choose. "I had to do that as leader and it left people disappointed who thought sometimes quite reasonably that they could have done a job as well as the ministers chosen. "But in the end, the team's got to be assembled by the leader and so it has been."

pretty easy to tell everyone to stop whinging when HE was the single big winner being given the third most prestigious job in government and not even in parliament yet!

olde.sault wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Today I saw and heard Bob Brown speaking and noted the similarity to the way JuLiar speaks-- The upper lips of both remain pressed tight while their bottom lips reveal teeth of rodents.

Maybe it's just a peculiarly Australian way of speaking.  I recall seeing a couple of interviews on TV with Jack Brabham, and that description fits him perfectly (not that I'm suggesting that he is a rodent of course).

Maqqa wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:18pm:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/13077787/carr-tells-labor-to-stop-gabbling-to-the-media/ Incoming foreign minister Bob Carr has issued a warning to his Labor Party colleagues to stop leaking internal details to the media. The former New South Wales premier was appointed to the role by Prime Minister Julia Gillard on Friday, after a week of speculation about whether he would be drafted in to fill Mark Arbib's vacant Senate seat. Mr Carr replaces Kevin Rudd, who was demoted to the backbench after losing Monday's leadership ballot to Ms Gillard. Mr Carr says while ministerial reshuffles can be brutal affairs, the practice of "gabbling" to the media has to be excised from Labor culture. "It's always surrounded by angst and disappointment. There's no other way of doing it," he said. "A leader has got to make choices - a leader has got to choose. "I had to do that as leader and it left people disappointed who thought sometimes quite reasonably that they could have done a job as well as the ministers chosen. "But in the end, the team's got to be assembled by the leader and so it has been."

I am trying to look for the words "Carr starting to undermine Gillard" or even "Carr undermines" in the article reference and link of Carrs comments
Couldn't find it

Missing link

Just like the author of this thread