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Title: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by falah on Mar 1st, 2012 at 9:27pm
Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History
An Illinois congressional candidate says the Holocaust is the “biggest, blackest lie in history.” Arthur Jones, an insurance salesman from Lyons, Ill., is running as a Republican in the primary for the state’s 3rd congressional district against Jim Falvey and Richard Grabowski. The Vietnam veteran has called into question the Holocaust where 6 million Jews were killed under the Nazi regime in Europe. “This idea that 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust is the biggest, blackest lie in history,” Jones told KMOX. “There is no proof that the Holocaust took place in Europe against the Jews.” Jones – a former member of the Nationalist Socialist White People’s Party – wrote a flyer called “The Holocaust Racket” where he states it is an “international extortion racket” and refutes all the Holocaust deaths. “Millions of dollars has [sic] been spent to spread the lies of the Holocaust,” Jones told KMOX. A former member of the Nationalist Socialist White People’s Party, Jones started the American First Committee in 1980 in an effort to stop all the foreign influence on U.S. policies. He’s looking to oust incumbent Rep. Dan Lipinski, D-Ill., because Jones feels Lipinski wants the U.S. to go to war with Iran because of Israel. “I’m the only guy in the state of Illinois against the Israeli lobby,” Jones said. Despite collecting over 1,000 signatures to be put on the ballot, the state’s Republican party refused to do so because of his views. “I didn’t know believing in the Holocaust became a requirement for public office,” he said... http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2012/02/29/congressional-candidate-calls-holocaust-biggest-blackest-lie-in-history/ |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 7:28am falah wrote on Mar 1st, 2012 at 9:27pm:
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Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 9:41am
While the extermination of people in death camps was an occurrence there is no reason or evidence to believe so many Jews were killed.
While Jews were killed and probably targeted the numbers would be nowhere near 6 million. Regardless of the fact, the holocaust has been used as an excuse by Israel the Jewish state to commit just as bad atrocities. The circle of hate goes on, and when we worry too much about the past we don’t worry at all about what happens at present. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 10:37am bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 9:41am:
The Germans themselves stated differently eh. And the one thing the Germans were very good at was record keeping. Very efficient record keepers. The best in Europe. If you need a good bookkeeper, find a German company. They keep everything, and they make multiple copies of everything. Very handy trait that. And can you site an example where the Israeli's have used the holocaust as an excuse to murder 6 million people please. :) I'm sure there are many that hanker for the old days when the emaciated beaten Jews used to line up by the thousands naked in the snow, and shuffle off in an silent orderly fashion to the Zyklon B bath house followed by a trip up the chimney. Nowadays they shoot first and ask questions later and after four wars fighting for their existance which they won, then they should be ready for next time. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 11:07am chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 10:37am:
Israel is one of the principle controllers of the world monetary system that creates poverty around the world and in turn causes billions of people to starve to death. They have killed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. Continue to exploit workers around the world, particularly in African diamond mines where many thousands lose their lives. They have been doing their part to start or induce many wars around the world which kill millions of people. Likewise they are on the verge of destroying the entire planet with their nuclear arsenal.. Shall I go on? |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 11:38am bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 11:07am:
And where is your proof that Israel is one of the principle principle controllers of the planets monetary system. I seem to miss that bit in the daily finance news. Does Israel have it's own stock exchange now? As for causing 'billions to starve to death', Israel has the most vibrant economy in the middle east, who GDP grows dramatically each year with it's exports. It even exports to it's former Arab league enemies. Quote:
Where are all the bodies? Why haven't the NGO's reported this? Where are these hundreds of thousands? Maybe you feel that Israel shouldn't respond to over 12,000 missiles and mortar shells fired into that country, but I'm here to tell you no nation on the planet would allow that to go on. And if you want to know who leads in the 'kill Palestinian' stakes, it's acutally the Jordanians who cleaned up big time during the Black September massacres of 1970. And they did massacre civilians. Quote:
Are they owned by the Israeli government now? Quote:
They have been attacked four times by armies from the Arab League. They have defended themselves from attacks from Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Hamas in Gaza. Both groups which are listed as terrorist organisations. Quote:
On the verge??? Why, because if the Arab League want to go for Round 5, we might find out if Israel actually have that supposed nuclear arsenal. I suppose 1000 glow in the dark Egyptian tanks might be a good indicator, but it would be well deserved after 5 attempts to destroy that country. You do realise that the sole democracy in the Middle East is entitled to defend itself, or are you just hankering for the old days to return. Quote:
Please don't. That's enough tripe for one day. [/quote] |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 11:51am chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 11:38am:
Where are all the bodies? Why haven't the NGO's reported this? Where are these hundreds of thousands? Maybe you feel that Israel shouldn't respond to over 12,000 missiles and mortar shells fired into that country, but I'm here to tell you no nation on the planet would allow that to go on. And if you want to know who leads in the 'kill Palestinian' stakes, it's acutally the Jordanians who cleaned up big time during the Black September massacres of 1970. And they did massacre civilians. Quote:
Are they owned by the Israeli government now? Quote:
They have been attacked four times by armies from the Arab League. They have defended themselves from attacks from Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Hamas in Gaza. Both groups which are listed as terrorist organisations. Quote:
On the verge??? Why, because if the Arab League want to go for Round 5, we might find out if Israel actually have that supposed nuclear arsenal. I suppose 1000 glow in the dark Egyptian tanks might be a good indicator, but it would be well deserved after 5 attempts to destroy that country. You do realise that the sole democracy in the Middle East is entitled to defend itself, or are you just hankering for the old days to return. Quote:
Please don't. That's enough tripe for one day. [/quote] [/quote]I am not arguing that a lot of jews died, but a lot of the numbers were estimations and inaccurate. The monetary system is controlled by mostly Jewish families, the same ones who funded the Nazis actually. Of course they aren’t going to talk about it on the news. They don’t need a stock exchange because they control all the others in the world. HAHAHA Israel can only be a vibrant economy because billions are in poverty, and their GDP is thanks to the monopoly it holds on certain industries. Are you really denying that Israel has killed thousands of Palestinians? They have been attacked in defence. And terrorist is just a label it doesn’t change what it actually is. These people are defending themselves from Israeli aggression and oppression. Israel is the only one being aggressive in the situation. They have pushed Iran so far that it needs to defend itself or risk having its civilians slaughtered. Your a real idiot, do you just believe everything you hear without actually researching it for yourself. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by falah on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 7:31pm
The newspapers in 1945 said that 5 million people were killed by the Nazis. This figure included Gypsies, homosexuals, communists, political enemies of the Nazis, and the mentally ill.
Today the number is inflated to 6 million, and all the victims have somehow become Jews. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Soren on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 9:00pm
You are making it up as you go.
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Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by falah on Mar 3rd, 2012 at 9:46am
As Nazi control of Eastern Europe collapsed in 1944, the Soviets who uncovered the concentration camps reported that the Nazis had extirminated 2 million people mostly communists:
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Later the 2 million becomes in inflated to 5 million, then 6 million...and the Zionist propganda machine will teach us that the victims were mainly Jews. Even if 5 or 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis, why have we allowed the propganda machine to make us think that this is more important than the much larger number killed by Nazis in the USSR: Quote:
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Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 4th, 2012 at 12:14pm
hitler was the illegitimate son of a rothschild
it is said, brought to power wanted to be "king of the world" he did some ethnic cleansing of inferior jews, this is called genocide,under the order and funded by elite jew bloodline and thus the genocide took place and the 'elite' jews got palestine.. and still pretend to be a victim believe it or not namaste |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 4th, 2012 at 12:17pm it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 12:14pm:
Wouldn’t surprise me, Regardless they were definitely funded by the Rothschild’s. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 4th, 2012 at 12:40pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDkEy4XRe2c
Khazar Jews - the Illuminati |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 6th, 2012 at 8:10am bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 11:51am:
Are they owned by the Israeli government now? Quote:
They have been attacked four times by armies from the Arab League. They have defended themselves from attacks from Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Hamas in Gaza. Both groups which are listed as terrorist organisations. Quote:
On the verge??? Why, because if the Arab League want to go for Round 5, we might find out if Israel actually have that supposed nuclear arsenal. I suppose 1000 glow in the dark Egyptian tanks might be a good indicator, but it would be well deserved after 5 attempts to destroy that country. You do realise that the sole democracy in the Middle East is entitled to defend itself, or are you just hankering for the old days to return. Quote:
Please don't. That's enough tripe for one day. [/quote] [/quote] Quote:
Well, the Nuremburg trial judges in 1945/46 thought differently eh. Quote:
Do you see Jews under your bed? They don't talk about it on the news because your claims are baseless. Quote:
Billions in poverty don't buy goods eh. And there GDP growth has everything to do with good business practices. Quote:
Hamas chose to attack. Hamas chose the battlefield. Hamas chose to have human sheilds. Hamas chose to use children and forward spotters on the front line. Quote:
Launching missiles at canary yellow school buses in not defence. Launching missiles indiscriminately into Sderot is not defence. Using mentally handicapped children as suicide bombers is not defence. Quote:
They had no issue with Jordanian, Egyptian, British, Turkish, Roman, Greek aggression and oppression eh. Israel is the only one being aggressive in the situation. Quote:
Iran made it's intentions clear years ago. It intends wiping Israel off the map. Iran sponsors terrorism, and has done so for years. There is no getting past these facts. Your a real idiot, do you just believe everything you hear without actually researching it for yourself. [/quote] |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 6th, 2012 at 8:12am falah wrote on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 7:31pm:
Today you believe newspapers? |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Soren on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 9:04pm falah wrote on Mar 3rd, 2012 at 9:46am:
Nobody is making the 6 million appear greater than the 15 million (or 20 million) Russians. The Jews commemorating and honouring their dead does not diminish the Russians' (or anyone else's) ability and commitment to remember their dead. But there was never a notion to exterminate the Russians the way there was of the extermination of Jews. Russians, Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, etc were rounded up and starved and worked to death. But there is the added dimension that the Russians were mostly from Russia, Poles from Poland - and the Jews from everywhere. That implicates all the people from the various countries from which the Jews were rounded up. SOme countries resisted the giving up of their Jews but in the end most did. A very significant thing about the holocaust is the collaboration with the Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews, by the French, Germans, Ukranians, Poles, Hungarians, etc, etc. Russians do not feel guilty about their Russian dead. Most European countries feel guilty about the Jews they gave over to camps, slave labour, death marches, execution. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:45am it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 12:14pm:
Light - that's rubbish - Hitler was a Catholic. ![]() |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:46am
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Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Jan on Mar 24th, 2012 at 4:07am it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 12:40pm:
The video account has been terminated. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by perceptions_now on Mar 24th, 2012 at 3:24pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:45am:
Be it War, Politics, Religion or simply the communication of what people "believe", the first casualties are often REALITY & TRUTH! |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 3:29pm
I think regardless if he was catholic or not, the bible does condone and encourage everything he did.
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Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by perceptions_now on Mar 24th, 2012 at 3:34pm bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 3:29pm:
As I said, the first casualties are often REALITY & TRUTH! |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 3:35pm perceptions_now wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 3:34pm:
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Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 24th, 2012 at 6:25pm
You may be tell my grandparents who is come out of Treblinka that there is no holocaust?
Maybe they was dreaming the nightmare that it happen |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 6:59pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 6:25pm:
Who said there was no holocaust? |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Soren on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:05pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:46am:
Never mind that, it's b&w and long gone. Check out this current Muslim gesture. Do you think they are trying to emulate the Romans? No, me neither. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by perceptions_now on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:26pm bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 3:35pm:
What is? |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:33pm perceptions_now wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:26pm:
-kill gypsys -kill homosexuals -kill people with disabilites or defomities -human sacrifice including women and children -burning people -rape people -keep slaves -keeping spoils of war including slaves -plundering -kill people who don't listen to priests -kill witches -kill fortunetellers -kill false prophets Quote:
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Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Soren on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:51pm
Yeah, I know... Islam is a Jewish conspiracy. Mohammed was a Jewish money lender.
Say no more. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by perceptions_now on Mar 24th, 2012 at 8:19pm bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:33pm:
So, because Hitler did all this, he was following the bible? And, therefore Hitler was really a modern messiah? |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 8:21pm perceptions_now wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 8:19pm:
So, because Hitler did all this, he was following the bible? And, therefore Hitler was really a modern messiah? [/quote]Well I never said that but history would suggest this yes according to the bible he would be going to heaven |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by perceptions_now on Mar 24th, 2012 at 9:36pm bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 8:21pm:
according to the bible he would be going to heaven [/quote] As I've said elsewhere, Reality & Truth, are often casualties! |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Incomptinence on Mar 25th, 2012 at 2:53am
Holocaust deniers have always struck me as very strange.
They don't like jewish people and they claim that a massive event where 6 million jewish people got snuffed never happened? That the entire government of the most vehemently Anti-Semetic government ever known was so entirely at the mercy of jews that their entire record keeping system was entirely subsumed by their enemy? If any of this were true their very continuation in any level of organisation would be in vain. Doesn't matter how small your KKK chapter or neo nazi group is is those jewish blokes are going to slip in and fabricate all your signatures, force you to build giant remote ovens for some reason and probably rip your face off and make a cunning disguise out of you. Rarely do you find a radical movement so rife with defeatism and cowardice they try to disprove what would be their greatest victory. Imagine if 6 million people were killed on 911 somehow and Osama said "Oh no we were too successful better pretend we never did it". I guess dabbling in conspiracy does take them back to their roots, hell I doubt the nazis would have formed without conspiracy nuts believing in "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion". |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 25th, 2012 at 10:20am perceptions_now wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 9:36pm:
As I've said elsewhere, Reality & Truth, are often casualties! [/quote] Well do your bit and resuscitate reality and truth and explain why I am wrong. You can’t change the words of the bible |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 25th, 2012 at 10:23am Incomptinence wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 2:53am:
You do realise that it wasnt just Jewish people who died in the holocaust. Why does someone have to hate jewish people to deny the holocaust? |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by perceptions_now on Mar 25th, 2012 at 11:35am bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 10:20am:
Well do your bit and resuscitate reality and truth and explain why I am wrong. You can’t change the words of the bible [/quote] No thanks, No point and anyway, I've already done what I wanted to do! |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 25th, 2012 at 11:39am
I have no opinion on this, I am merely stating that the bible does condone it as it is a fact
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Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 25th, 2012 at 1:50pm bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 10:23am:
The holocaust did happen. That is fact. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 25th, 2012 at 2:09pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 1:50pm:
I know |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 25th, 2012 at 2:14pm bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 2:09pm:
Then maybe you can begin to understand what is driving force of Israel and Israeli peoples. “On this day, when we remember the six million victims, let us also remember two lessons: first, ‘the Holocaust – never again.’ And second – an independent, strong, thriving and peaceful State of Israel is the vengeance of the dead. It is also the comfort for those remaining alive. Thus we have the uppermost responsibility to protect and defend it for the future generations.” Ehud Barak - Israeli Defense Minister Address to the United Nations |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 25th, 2012 at 2:16pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 2:14pm:
genocide is not an excuse for genocide |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Jan on Mar 25th, 2012 at 3:58pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 1:50pm:
Yes it did, and many millions of other religions and races died who don't even get mentioned. The trouble with the JEWISH holocaust is that they OVER-ESTIMATE their own numbers, still demand compensation for people who were never part of the shoah, steal palestinian land That was NOT allotted to them nor compensate palestinians for loss of land, orchards and homes, bulldoze palestinian homes to house illegal Israeli 'settlers', Get Billions of dollars funding, made LAWS to stop anyone QUESTIONING history, receive military AID to fight palestinian retaliation, and to add insult to injury turned their (shoah) into a billion dollar BUSINESS ie making profits out of their dead. NO OTHER COUNTRY OR RELIGION HAVE EVER DONE THIS, OR RECEIVED SO MUCH IN THE HISTORY OF THE ENTIRE WORLD. The trouble with you and your zionist establishment Avram is your attitude of superiority and acting as if you and yours are the ONLY ones who count in this world, as if we GOYIM count for nothing. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 25th, 2012 at 4:09pm Jan wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 3:58pm:
And this from someone of European descent! Is the irony lost on you? |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Jan on Mar 25th, 2012 at 4:15pm
http://www.ukemonde.com/holocaust/victims.html
Overlooked Millions: Non-Jewish Victims of the Holocaust Karen Silverstrim, MA Candidate University of Central Arkansas The genocidal policies of the Nazis resulted in the deaths of about as many Polish Gentiles as Polish Jews, thus making them co-victims in a Forgotten Holocaust. This Holocaust has been largely ignored because historians who have written on the subject of the Holocaust have chosen to interpret the tragedy in exclusivistic terms--namely, as the most tragic period in the history of the Jewish Diaspora. To them, the Holocaust was unique to the Jews, and they therefore have had little or nothing to say about the nine million Gentiles, including three million Poles, who also perished in the greatest tragedy the world has ever known. Little wonder that many people who experienced these events share the feeling of Nobel Laureate Czeslaw Milosz, who anxious when the meaning of the word Holocaust undergoes gradual modifications, so that the word begins to belong to the history of the Jews exclusively, as if among the victims there were not also millions of Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, and prisoners of other nationalities. -- Richard C. Lukas, preface to The Forgotten Holocaust: The Poles under German Occupation 1939-1944 The Holocaust was more than a Jewish event. Records kept by the Germans prove they exterminated millions of Communists, Czechs, Greeks, Gypsies, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, mentally and physically handicapped, Poles, resistance fighters, Russians, Serbs, Socialists, Spanish Republicans, trade unionists, Ukrainians, Yugoslavians, prisoners of war of many nations, and still others whose identity may never be recognized. Their victims, according to one survivor of four different concentration camps, "were of some thirty nationalities, from Nepalese to Andorrans, and of a variety of racial and linguistic stocks ranging from Basques to Buriats and from Ladinos to Lapps". When people were not immediately exterminated, they were sent to work and/or concentration camps. There the prisoners were divided into six penal categories and given patches on their clothing for identification purposes. Ordinary criminals were assigned green; political prisoners wore red; black was worn by asocials (slackers, prostitutes, procurers, etc.); homosexuals wore pink; conscientious objectors wore purple, and the Jewish people wore yellow. official government documents of various countries, place the death toll of people murdered by the Nazis during the Holocaust as conservatively over 15 million non-combatant people. One official source estimates the number killed at 26 million. However, "with the mass graves on the eastern front, exact figures will never be known". Ukrainians 5.5 - 7 million Jews (of all countries) 6 million + Russian POWs 3.3 million + Russian Civilians 2 million + Poles 3 million + Yugoslavians 1.5 million + Gypsies 200,000 - 500,000 Mentally/Physically Disabled 70,000- 250,000 Homosexuals Tens of thousands Spanish Republicans Tens of thousands Jehovah's Witnesses 2,500 - 5,000 Boy and Girl Scouts, Clergy, Communists, Czechs, Deportees, Greeks, Political Prisoners, Other POWs, Resistance Fighters, Serbs, Socialists, Trade Unionists, Others Unknown. The six million figure used in the Jewish death toll is an estimate for total lives lost. These Jewish lives were taken by a number of groups, not just Nazis. The six million figure includes Jewish lives lost in other countries as well, not just Germany, and by the various modes of killing, not just camp deaths. Ukrainian deaths were due to Russian and Nazi perpetrators alike, some killed on "acquired" German soil, others killed on Russian soil, some killed outright, others slowly worked or starved to death. If Russian Jews, killed on Russian soil by both Nazis and Russians, are considered Holocaust deaths, then the Ukrainians killed alongside them should also be categorized as Holocaust deaths. Numerous factors have contributed to the American public's perception of the Holocaust as an exclusively Jewish event. Recognizing these factors--misinformation, misrepresentation, and political agendas--should be the first step in correcting America's skewed version of Holocaust history. The Holocaust was an event of mass prejudice and abuse of power. It entailed the murdering of many millions of people who were singled out for their differences, whether they be religious, ethnic, physical, political, social or national. Over six million Jewish people were murdered by virtue of their ethnicity and religion, while somewhere between sixteen and twenty million non-Jews were also murdered because they did not fit the homogeneous mold the Nazi regime had selected for the German nation. Consequently, the image of the Holocaust as strictly a Jewish event must be corrected. If not, millions of non-Jews will have died without a record in history, and the Holocaust will never be an accurate portrayal of the actual historical event. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Incomptinence on Mar 25th, 2012 at 5:31pm bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 10:23am:
I was under the impression holocaust deniers whipping out theories about all powerful homosexual or gypsies conspiracies faking the whole thing wasn't the norm. Oh I'm sure there is a subset blaming the other minorities killed and probably even theorists who blame none of the groups involved and have just thatched it into their mindset for the hell of it like a bowerbird that collects madness. I thought we were talking about holocaust denial though not if the reptiloids did it. |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Soren on Mar 25th, 2012 at 8:18pm Jan wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 3:58pm:
OK, only 3 million Jews were killed. Do you feel better? 2 million? Happy? 1 million? Satisfied? As for other victims - is it now up to the Jews to mourn them ahead of their own? Does Jewish grief make it impossible for the Russians, the Gypsies the homosexual, the communists to remember? The Jews remembering somehow prevents them from mourning and remembering? |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Jan on Mar 26th, 2012 at 3:49am Incomptinence wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 5:31pm:
I was under the impression holocaust deniers whipping out theories about all powerful homosexual or gypsies conspiracies faking the whole thing wasn't the norm. Oh I'm sure there is a subset blaming the other minorities killed and probably even theorists who blame none of the groups involved and have just thatched it into their mindset for the hell of it like a bowerbird that collects madness. I thought we were talking about holocaust denial though not if the reptiloids did it. [/quote] There are very few people who actually DENY the holocaust, but MANY Question the numbers that died in the death camps ... These people are called "revisionists" ... they merely question the numbers and also the way they dies ie. there is much evidence that the gas chambers were not capable of containing the gas. The Zyklon B gas was a pesticide and a disinfectant. Merely questioning anything about the holohoax can land you in gaol. Zyklon B was the trade name of a cyanide-based pesticide infamous for its use by Nazi Germany to kill human beings in gas chambers of extermination camps during the Holocaust. Zyklon B consisted of hydrogen cyanide (prussic acid), a stabilizer, a warning odorant methyl 2-bromoacetate, and one of several adsorbents. The Zyklon B used for mass killings of humans regularly omitted the warning odorant. From 1929 onwards the U.S. used Zyklon B to disinfect the freight trains and clothes of Mexican immigrants entering the US.Farm Securities Administration photographer Marion Post Wolcott recorded the use of cyanide gas and Zyklon B by the Public Health Service at the New Orleans Quarantine Station during the 1930s. A fumigating and disinfecting team getting ready to work in New Orleans 1939; Zyklon canisters visible |
Title: Re: Holocaust ‘Biggest, Blackest Lie In History Post by Jan on Mar 26th, 2012 at 4:14am Soren wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 8:18pm:
Your not very bright are you Sore'n? It isn't just the pumped up numbers (to better promote world sympathy). It's the fact they claim the loss as if it's an exclusively Jewish event. And it's the fact they don't actually 'mourn'.... it's more like a celebration of good fortune. Other countries mourn in a quieter and respectful way and don't turn the lives lost into a circus, or a guilt trip on other countries for profit. |
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