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Title: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by Greens_Win on Feb 28th, 2012 at 10:03pm
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/animals/fresh-cruelty-claims-for-indonesian-abattoirs-20120228-1u0sq.html
Will Labor act since the conditions they set for Live Trade are not being met Video included on link THE live export industry is facing fresh pressure to clean up its act with new vision of cruelty in Indonesian abattoirs uncovered by animal activists, despite strict new rules for exporters being in place for nearly six months. Investigators working for Animals Australia - the group that uncovered horrific cruelty to Australian cattle in May last year, prompting a one month suspension of trade - shot footage at Jakarta abattoirs in late January. The fresh allegations will place pressure on Agriculture Minister Joe Ludwig - who was criticised for mishandling the controversy last year - ahead of the Cabinet reshuffle. The footage, seen by The Age, includes a slaughterman at Temur Petir stabbing at the face of a cow with a blunt metal file while it is in a restraint box. The animal jumps onto its hind legs as it attempts to climb out of the box. Animals Australia is confident the abattoir is part of an accredited supply chain. The video, a complaint and a report from the RSPCA was handed to the agriculture department last Friday who are now investigating. RSPCA chief scientist Bidda Jones identified dozens of breaches of the new supply chain assurance rules, which were introduced to protect animal welfare following the crisis last year. The breaches include; failing to check the animal is dead before processing its body, keeping the animal in restraint for too long, interfering with the wounds after the throat cut and hosing the animal with water prior to and just after the throat cut. At a second, run-down, abattoir in Cakung an animal is put into the banned Mark I restraint box to be slaughtered, as workers restraint the animal its repeatedly bashes its head on a concrete plinth. "The idea that Australian cattle are being slaughtered in Mark I boxes, after they were proven to be inhumane last year, is appalling," Dr Jones said. The group does not believe Cakung would be part of an accredited supply chain given it is in run down state and uses "appalling slaughter practices", but has serious concerns that Australian cattle are going there anyway. It has based this view on information from the investigator who saw ear tags that may relate to an Australian exporter as well as the slaughter of one animal that resembled an Australian breed of cattle - local cattle are much smaller. Animals Australia's campaign director Lyn White told The Age that it was clear the new regulatory system cannot and would not provide protection for Australian cattle. "The government hoped that this new system would quell public concerns. It has failed its first independent test," Ms White said. She believes 62 abattoirs have been approved to slaughter and she said to suggest that there would be daily compliance with basic standards of welfare in all slaughterhouses was "ludicrous." Ms White said there needed to be more severe penalties. A meat industry source said Caking was a large, old, government-owned abattoir in East Jakarta. It was highly unlikely that it was Australian cattle being slaughtered there, he said. Temu Petir was a newer abattoir in north Jakarta. The source said he believed whatever wrongdoing the video showed were "not major animal welfare incidents, but they are things that are going to require corrective actions". Critic of the industry and Labor MP Melissa Parke agrees with Animals Australia that there needs to be harsher penalties for breaches. "This will be a test for the new regulatory regime. I continue to hold the view that pre-slaughter stunning should be mandatory and that there should be clear and serious consequences for breaches of the exporter supply chain assurance system,,' she said. Senator Ludwig, the Australian Livestock Exporters' Council and the Cattle Council all acknowledged the investigation but declined to comment on the allegations until the inquiry was complete. Greens Senator Lee Rhiannon last night seized on the fresh evidence saying it should be the responsibility of the Australian government to monitor and audit the abattoirs. "Instead it is left to courageous and committed animal rights activists such as Animals Australia to expose the continuing cruelty in the live export industry," she said. Senator Rhiannon called on the government to put more resources into monitoring live exports. “To maintain any public confidence in the system, the government needs to apply the full force of sanctions in this instance. Ultimately live exports should be banned." Last Friday, Department of Agriculture Deputy Secretary Phillip Glyde said officers in the department are reviewing footage of the alleged animal welfare issues and are checking if the abattoirs operate under an exporter supply chain assurance system. He said the embassy had informed relevant officials in Indonesia of the receipt of the complaint. |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by Greens_Win on Feb 29th, 2012 at 7:03am
Australian cattle cut up before they're dead in Indonesian abattoirs - claim
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/australian-cattle-cut-up-before-theyre-dead-in-indonesian-abattoirs-claim/story-fn7x8me2-1226284605774 Time to stop the export |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by chicken_lipsforme on Feb 29th, 2012 at 7:12am ____ wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 7:03am:
Yes, lets have another knee jerk reaction from the government. |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by Greens_Win on Feb 29th, 2012 at 7:18am chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 7:12am:
So there wasn't animal cruelty last time ? Or do we degrade our humanity by putting a quick buck ahead of the welfare of animals. |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by chicken_lipsforme on Feb 29th, 2012 at 7:32am ____ wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 7:18am:
Yes, there was animal cruelty shown last time. There was also animal cruelty shown in an Australian abattoir a few weeks ago too. The government didn't shut down the entire Australian industry then did they. The point is, we don't have to ruin peoples livelihoods on a knee jerk reaction. The idiotic Labor government did enough damage the last time with their ill considered meddling. |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by cods on Feb 29th, 2012 at 8:24am
how about we send Booby and Lee over to Indonesia to tell them what they think of them... and to tell them what they are going to get in the future..
I would like to see that! |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by FriYAY on Feb 29th, 2012 at 9:16am
Horse slaughter in OZ aint much better.
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by PoliticalPuppet on Feb 29th, 2012 at 9:22am
I hardly think their last few seconds on earth matter when they have spent their whole lives living in agony.
This stuff happens worldwide, and killing techniques are not the biggest problem at all. Animals get treated just as badly in Australia, and we should fix up our own problems before shifting the blame to some 3rd world nation trying to make ourselves feel better. |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by FriYAY on Feb 29th, 2012 at 9:23am bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 9:22am:
Got anything to back that statement up? :-/ |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by PoliticalPuppet on Feb 29th, 2012 at 9:32am FriYAY wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 9:23am:
Cramming thousands of animals in the tiniest of spaces where they can barely move for their whole lives.. Making them live in their own crap Pumping them full of dangerous drugs, chemicals and hormones.. When we have no idea the effect this could be having psychologically or for future generations. Transporting them in huge numbers where many get serious injuries. Exposures to bad disease where some may go untreated and be left to die. Sometimes they are killed inhumanely. The list could go on and on and you know it. It’s what happens when you do any business in such large numbers, but that doesn’t make it right. I’m not saying what happens in other nations such as Indonesia is ok, but we certainly aren’t that good over here. |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by FriYAY on Feb 29th, 2012 at 9:45am bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 9:32am:
I'm agreeing (though there are some pretty large and small cattle station where animals aren't crammed into to tiny spaces - that's a generalisation) But feed lots etc are pretty bad. Transport must be horrific. Slaughter must be done here and to strict protocols. |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by Andrei.Hicks on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:23am
I have always held the opinion that Indonesia is a sh**hole and that Indonesians are cruel, barbaric c**ts in the way they treat a) their own people and b) any animals.
I see no reason to change my view. It always struck me when I lived in Australia that having Indonesia as neighbours, when I go back to England it makes the French seem not that bad. |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by PoliticalPuppet on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:38am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:23am:
Haha says the guy from a country that goes around blowing up women and children every two seconds. |
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Title: Re: ALP's Indonesian Live Stock Cruelty Continues Post by Deathridesahorse on Feb 29th, 2012 at 8:05pm
WEST AUSTRALIAN SHEEP MR BARNETT!
Oh, you don't feel like sticking your nose in Federal Politics all of a sudden...... :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ |
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