Ballot a 'smokescreen' for dump law: Greens


THE GREENS say the government is cynically using Labor's leadership ballot to sneak through its plans to establish a nuclear waste dump in the Northern Territory.

Greens senator Scott Ludlum said it was inappropriate for the government to push through the bill to dump the waste at Muckaty Station near Tennant Creek when the nation's focus was consumed with a vote on the Labor leadership.

"It is cynical in the extreme that we would seek to pass a bill as contentious or controversial as this," he told parliament on Monday.

But government Senate leader Chris Evans rejected the accusation saying it was a "low blow".

"We started this debate in the last parliamentary week. It was always scheduled to be debated today," he said.

"That it came on today at the same time as there was a leadership ballot inside the Labor Party is just coincidence."

Senator Ludlum said the proposed bill would transfer thousands of cubic metres of nuclear waste from the nuclear waste management facility at Lucas Heights in south-western Sydney to the NT.

The waste was actively monitored and looked after by technicians within a security perimeter while the removal to NT would offer neither high security nor expertise in handling the toxic material.

"It is effectively looked after by people qualified to do so, who are trained in the disposal and how it behaves over a period of time," he said.

"It would be looked after by six of the loneliest security guards on the planet."

Senator Evans said the proposed dump would follow international best practice to store waste in a central facility.

Waste would be carried in internationally approved containers.

"Best practice is to be in one location. Obviously the more remote locations are regarded also as best practice," he said.

The Greens require alternatives to dumping waste at Muckaty Station.

Debate on the National Radioactive Waste Management Bill 2010 continues.

http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2012/02/27/291001_ntnews.html

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 3:56pm:

Ballot a 'smokescreen' for dump law: Greens THE GREENS say the government is cynically using Labor's leadership ballot to sneak through its plans to establish a nuclear waste dump in the Northern Territory. Greens senator Scott Ludlum said it was inappropriate for the government to push through the bill to dump the waste at Muckaty Station near Tennant Creek when the nation's focus was consumed with a vote on the Labor leadership. "It is cynical in the extreme that we would seek to pass a bill as contentious or controversial as this," he told parliament on Monday. But government Senate leader Chris Evans rejected the accusation saying it was a "low blow". "We started this debate in the last parliamentary week. It was always scheduled to be debated today," he said. "That it came on today at the same time as there was a leadership ballot inside the Labor Party is just coincidence." Senator Ludlum said the proposed bill would transfer thousands of cubic metres of nuclear waste from the nuclear waste management facility at Lucas Heights in south-western Sydney to the NT. The waste was actively monitored and looked after by technicians within a security perimeter while the removal to NT would offer neither high security nor expertise in handling the toxic material. "It is effectively looked after by people qualified to do so, who are trained in the disposal and how it behaves over a period of time," he said. "It would be looked after by six of the loneliest security guards on the planet." Senator Evans said the proposed dump would follow international best practice to store waste in a central facility. Waste would be carried in internationally approved containers. "Best practice is to be in one location. Obviously the more remote locations are regarded also as best practice," he said. The Greens require alternatives to dumping waste at Muckaty Station. Debate on the National Radioactive Waste Management Bill 2010 continues. http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2012/02/27/291001_ntnews.html

yet it wasnt cynical or contentious.to pass ..

[b]THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD..[/b]



yeah right we are all about to listen to you I am sure.

Greens went to the last election with a Carbon pricing policy. People voted knowing this and so all the carbon price proves is Greens are a party of achievement.

Don't deflect onto Greens your issue with Labor.

cods wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 3:56pm: Ballot a 'smokescreen' for dump law: Greens THE GREENS say the government is cynically using Labor's leadership ballot to sneak through its plans to establish a nuclear waste dump in the Northern Territory. Greens senator Scott Ludlum said it was inappropriate for the government to push through the bill to dump the waste at Muckaty Station near Tennant Creek when the nation's focus was consumed with a vote on the Labor leadership. "It is cynical in the extreme that we would seek to pass a bill as contentious or controversial as this," he told parliament on Monday. But government Senate leader Chris Evans rejected the accusation saying it was a "low blow". "We started this debate in the last parliamentary week. It was always scheduled to be debated today," he said. "That it came on today at the same time as there was a leadership ballot inside the Labor Party is just coincidence." Senator Ludlum said the proposed bill would transfer thousands of cubic metres of nuclear waste from the nuclear waste management facility at Lucas Heights in south-western Sydney to the NT. The waste was actively monitored and looked after by technicians within a security perimeter while the removal to NT would offer neither high security nor expertise in handling the toxic material. "It is effectively looked after by people qualified to do so, who are trained in the disposal and how it behaves over a period of time," he said. "It would be looked after by six of the loneliest security guards on the planet." Senator Evans said the proposed dump would follow international best practice to store waste in a central facility. Waste would be carried in internationally approved containers. "Best practice is to be in one location. Obviously the more remote locations are regarded also as best practice," he said. The Greens require alternatives to dumping waste at Muckaty Station. Debate on the National Radioactive Waste Management Bill 2010 continues. http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2012/02/27/291001_ntnews.html yet it wasnt cynical or contentious.to pass .. [b]THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD..[/b] yeah right we are all about to listen to you I am sure.

It was a non core promise and according to Howard and his old Health Minister Tony Abbott  thats perfectly ok.

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 5:14pm:

Greens went to the last election with a Carbon pricing policy. People voted knowing this and so all the carbon price proves is Greens are a party of achievement. Don't deflect onto Greens your issue with Labor.

[b]THE GREENS WERE NOT ELECTED AS PRIME MINISTER[/b]





they got a 10th of the vote...they did not get a mandate and neither did gillard.

cods wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

they got a 10th of the vote...they did not get a mandate and neither did gillard.

Did they? That's interesting.

How many did the Nationals get?  :D :D

Gist wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 5:18pm:

cods wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:16pm: they got a 10th of the vote...they did not get a mandate and neither did gillard. Did they? That's interesting. How many did the Nationals get?  :D :D

I seem to remember they got more than 3 times the vote of the Nats..making them the 3rd most popular party in this country so the people who voted for them should have more than 3 times the say than National Party voters.

Gist wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 5:18pm:

cods wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:16pm: they got a 10th of the vote...they did not get a mandate and neither did gillard. Did they? That's interesting. How many did the Nationals get?  :D :D

40% of the vote or are you as silly as to suggest we count votes where the nats dont stand a candidate?

adelcrow wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

Gist wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:18pm: cods wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:16pm: they got a 10th of the vote...they did not get a mandate and neither did gillard. Did they? That's interesting. How many did the Nationals get?  :D :D I seem to remember they got more than 3 times the vote of the Nats..making them the 3rd most popular party in this country so the people who voted for them should have more than 3 times the say than National Party voters.

and still BARELY managed on seat. how pathetic are the greens?

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:21pm: Gist wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:18pm: cods wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:16pm: they got a 10th of the vote...they did not get a mandate and neither did gillard. Did they? That's interesting. How many did the Nationals get?  :D :D I seem to remember they got more than 3 times the vote of the Nats..making them the 3rd most popular party in this country so the people who voted for them should have more than 3 times the say than National Party voters. and still BARELY managed on seat. how pathetic are the greens?

well 10th 10% what difference does it make in the long run.. still only got the gay mobs bums on the benches.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:21pm: Gist wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:18pm: cods wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:16pm: they got a 10th of the vote...they did not get a mandate and neither did gillard. Did they? That's interesting. How many did the Nationals get?  :D :D I seem to remember they got more than 3 times the vote of the Nats..making them the 3rd most popular party in this country so the people who voted for them should have more than 3 times the say than National Party voters. and still BARELY managed on seat. how pathetic are the greens?

And with one seat, Greens achieved a carbon tax.

Seventy two seats, what have the coalition achieved this term?

You are very lucky Greens only have one.

Gist wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 5:18pm:

cods wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:16pm: they got a 10th of the vote...they did not get a mandate and neither did gillard. Did they? That's interesting. How many did the Nationals get?

The Libeals got about 31% from memory - the Nats are important to them as when you add the Nat vote they were only just losers.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 5:26pm:

Gist wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:18pm: cods wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:16pm: they got a 10th of the vote...they did not get a mandate and neither did gillard. Did they? That's interesting. How many did the Nationals get?  :D :D 40% of the vote or are you as silly as to suggest we count votes where the nats dont stand a candidate?

Where they bothered to turn up, not of the nation. Or are you silly enough to suggest we don't count votes from across the nation, only the ones in seats the Nationals want to contest?