Insiders ABC, averaging out polls and I think it was apx

33 ALP
46 Liberals and their little bitch
11 Greens
and rest the Independents.

Now TPP gives the coalition a major advantage.

Will the Independents really preference the Coalition over ALP ... yes some are ex coalition members yet after the attacks by the coalition, surely we can no longer factor in their preferencing so the TPP is not very reliable.


Primary
33% ALP plus 80% of the 11% Greens plus say  50% of the 10% Independents would make TPP lineball.

i.e 48/52 to the coalition.

Worry about that a lot later woody.

The main focus now is the Labor leadership and who will run the country.

I know you are frightened to death of a Tony Abbott PM'ship (as I know you dislike the fact he and I have old common moral values which don't agree with your choice of life) - but now is not the time for trying to work out as desperately as you can how he won't win!

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 8:50am:

Worry about that a lot later woody. The main focus now is the Labor leadership and who will run the country. I know you are frightened to death of a Tony Abbott PM'ship (as I know you dislike the fact he and I have old common moral values which don't agree with your choice of life) - but now is not the time for trying to work out as desperately as you can how he won't win!

Not worried about Abbott, I am more interested in keeping Turnbull out of the Lib leadership since over 50% dislike the job Abbott is doing.

Two very unpopular parties equates to a more hung House of Reps parliament and a stronger grip on the Senate for the Greens.


if the TPP is incorrect which logic says it is, then Gillard is not as bad for Labor as some think.

So should we use the last election preference flow to decide current polling. In my mind : No

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 8:57am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 8:50am: Worry about that a lot later woody. The main focus now is the Labor leadership and who will run the country. I know you are frightened to death of a Tony Abbott PM'ship (as I know you dislike the fact he and I have old common moral values which don't agree with your choice of life) - but now is not the time for trying to work out as desperately as you can how he won't win! Not worried about Abbott, I am more interested in keeping Turnbull out of the Lib leadership since over 50% dislike the job Abbott is doing. Two very unpopular parties equates to a more hung House of Reps parliament and a stronger grip on the Senate for the Greens. if the TPP is incorrect which logic says it is, then Gillard is not as bad for Labor as some think. So should we use the last election preference flow to decide current polling. In my mind : No

The fact you write about him an awful lot and never anything positive tells a very different story.

There is amongst both Greens and Labor an awful lot of reference to Tony Abbott.

Bob Brown said he had no intention of ever discussing a minority agreement with Tony Abbott.

Nice and open minded of you there Bob....

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 8:57am:

So should we use the last election preference flow to decide current polling. In my mind : No

I tell you what woody, I am all for a guy showing confidence and backing himself.
I have done that all my life - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

So whilst I like your confidence of telling the pollsters how they are doing it wrong.

I'll go with the guys who do it for a living....

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 9:03am:

____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 8:57am: So should we use the last election preference flow to decide current polling. In my mind : No I tell you what woody, I am all for a guy showing confidence and backing himself. I have done that all my life - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. So whilst I like your confidence of telling the pollsters how they are doing it wrong. I'll go with the guys who do it for a living....

Not a very good investment tool ... how much did your adviser lead you to investing into Elron?


Agreeing with the status quo and not questioning is the path of a clone, not a rational human.

No way will the Independences hand over their seats to the coalition, like Tanner did to Melbourne for the Greens.  Independents will use Labor preferencing to beat the coalition in current Independent held seats and in currently held Coalition Seats.

By Independents doing this, it makes current TPP polling wrong.

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 9:10am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:03am: ____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 8:57am: So should we use the last election preference flow to decide current polling. In my mind : No I tell you what woody, I am all for a guy showing confidence and backing himself. I have done that all my life - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. So whilst I like your confidence of telling the pollsters how they are doing it wrong. I'll go with the guys who do it for a living.... Not a very good investment tool ... how much did your adviser lead you to investing into Elron? Agreeing with the status quo and not questioning is the path of a clone, not a rational human. No way will the Independences hand over their seats to the coalition, like Tanner did to Melbourne for the Greens.  Independents will use Labor preferencing to beat the coalition in current Independent held seats and in currently held Coalition Seats. By Independents doing this, it makes current TPP polling wrong.

Mate have you seen the polling from the independents' electorates.

They are National/Liberal traditional seats.
Greens poll utter shite in Katter/Oakeshott/Windsor's seats.

Katter will stroll back in.
The other two will lose their seat to the Nationals (though I think Windsor is retiring).

So of the 3 amigos it will be Katter and 2 Nationals next time.

Wilkie may retain his seat but you know as well as anyone, there is an uneasy relationship between him and Brown.

Kennedy, ALP's vote is 20%, enough to decide a close contest between Katter and the opposition for Katter.


Denison,  ALP 35%, Greens 19% and Libs 22%, would Wilkie use Libs preferences for his own end?


Lyne, ALP 13.5% and Greens 4.5%. of course Oakshot will use this potential 18% preferencing to hold on to his seat.

New England, Labor 8% and Greens 3.5%, surely Windsor will use this to keep Nats out.

The statistic TPP current formula is not compatible with a hung parliament, a hung parliament which will likely become more common.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 9:14am:

____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:10am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:03am: ____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 8:57am: So should we use the last election preference flow to decide current polling. In my mind : No I tell you what woody, I am all for a guy showing confidence and backing himself. I have done that all my life - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. So whilst I like your confidence of telling the pollsters how they are doing it wrong. I'll go with the guys who do it for a living.... Not a very good investment tool ... how much did your adviser lead you to investing into Elron? Agreeing with the status quo and not questioning is the path of a clone, not a rational human. No way will the Independences hand over their seats to the coalition, like Tanner did to Melbourne for the Greens.  Independents will use Labor preferencing to beat the coalition in current Independent held seats and in currently held Coalition Seats. By Independents doing this, it makes current TPP polling wrong. Mate have you seen the polling from the independents' electorates. They are National/Liberal traditional seats. Greens poll utter shite in Katter/Oakeshott/Windsor's seats. Katter will stroll back in. The other two will lose their seat to the Nationals (though I think Windsor is retiring). So of the 3 amigos it will be Katter and 2 Nationals next time. Wilkie may retain his seat but you know as well as anyone, there is an uneasy relationship between him and Brown.

Katter will win
Windsor will run if Joyce is in his seat
Oakshot has not a chance in hell, even if the government turn it around and win. There is a massively biased campagne being run by the redneck media against him. I consider Hadley as a criminal the way he pursues people with lies. He is so bad he will not debate Rob on his radio program.
Wilkie is history, Labor will regain this seat. He has proven useless.

nairbe wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 9:37am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:14am: ____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:10am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:03am: ____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 8:57am: So should we use the last election preference flow to decide current polling. In my mind : No I tell you what woody, I am all for a guy showing confidence and backing himself. I have done that all my life - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. So whilst I like your confidence of telling the pollsters how they are doing it wrong. I'll go with the guys who do it for a living.... Not a very good investment tool ... how much did your adviser lead you to investing into Elron? Agreeing with the status quo and not questioning is the path of a clone, not a rational human. No way will the Independences hand over their seats to the coalition, like Tanner did to Melbourne for the Greens.  Independents will use Labor preferencing to beat the coalition in current Independent held seats and in currently held Coalition Seats. By Independents doing this, it makes current TPP polling wrong. Mate have you seen the polling from the independents' electorates. They are National/Liberal traditional seats. Greens poll utter shite in Katter/Oakeshott/Windsor's seats. Katter will stroll back in. The other two will lose their seat to the Nationals (though I think Windsor is retiring). So of the 3 amigos it will be Katter and 2 Nationals next time. Wilkie may retain his seat but you know as well as anyone, there is an uneasy relationship between him and Brown. Katter will win Windsor will run if Joyce is in his seat Oakshot has not a chance in hell, even if the government turn it around and win. There is a massively biased campagne being run by the redneck media against him. I consider Hadley as a criminal the way he pursues people with lies. He is so bad he will not debate Rob on his radio program. Wilkie is history, Labor will regain this seat. He has proven useless.

I reckon Denison is a reasonable chance fro the Greens rather than ALP.

2010
http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2010/guide/deni.htm
2007
http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2007/guide/deni.htm

Labor support has shifted to Wilkie and the way Labor has deserted their core, would more likely go to the Greens if Wilkie loses his way.

nairbe wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 9:37am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:14am: ____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:10am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:03am: ____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 8:57am: So should we use the last election preference flow to decide current polling. In my mind : No I tell you what woody, I am all for a guy showing confidence and backing himself. I have done that all my life - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. So whilst I like your confidence of telling the pollsters how they are doing it wrong. I'll go with the guys who do it for a living.... Not a very good investment tool ... how much did your adviser lead you to investing into Elron? Agreeing with the status quo and not questioning is the path of a clone, not a rational human. No way will the Independences hand over their seats to the coalition, like Tanner did to Melbourne for the Greens.  Independents will use Labor preferencing to beat the coalition in current Independent held seats and in currently held Coalition Seats. By Independents doing this, it makes current TPP polling wrong. Mate have you seen the polling from the independents' electorates. They are National/Liberal traditional seats. Greens poll utter shite in Katter/Oakeshott/Windsor's seats. Katter will stroll back in. The other two will lose their seat to the Nationals (though I think Windsor is retiring). So of the 3 amigos it will be Katter and 2 Nationals next time. Wilkie may retain his seat but you know as well as anyone, there is an uneasy relationship between him and Brown. Katter will win Windsor will run if Joyce is in his seat Oakshot has not a chance in hell, even if the government turn it around and win. There is a massively biased campagne being run by the redneck media against him. I consider Hadley as a criminal the way he pursues people with lies. He is so bad he will not debate Rob on his radio program. Wilkie is history, Labor will regain this seat. He has proven useless.

Oakeshott made his bed the moment he sided with Gillard against the wishes of his vastly conservative electorate. There is no bias. Oakeshott is delusional, as evidenced in his idiotic rants that Gillard has done a great job. He'll cop an electoral ass-whuppin' of gigantic proportions and he knows it. As for Ray Hadley, he's asked Oakeshott numerous times to appear on his show - Oakeshott has refused each time. You should note also that Gillard has also refused to appear on his show.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 9:45am:

nairbe wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:37am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:14am: ____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:10am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:03am: ____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 8:57am: So should we use the last election preference flow to decide current polling. In my mind : No I tell you what woody, I am all for a guy showing confidence and backing himself. I have done that all my life - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. So whilst I like your confidence of telling the pollsters how they are doing it wrong. I'll go with the guys who do it for a living.... Not a very good investment tool ... how much did your adviser lead you to investing into Elron? Agreeing with the status quo and not questioning is the path of a clone, not a rational human. No way will the Independences hand over their seats to the coalition, like Tanner did to Melbourne for the Greens.  Independents will use Labor preferencing to beat the coalition in current Independent held seats and in currently held Coalition Seats. By Independents doing this, it makes current TPP polling wrong. Mate have you seen the polling from the independents' electorates. They are National/Liberal traditional seats. Greens poll utter shite in Katter/Oakeshott/Windsor's seats. Katter will stroll back in. The other two will lose their seat to the Nationals (though I think Windsor is retiring). So of the 3 amigos it will be Katter and 2 Nationals next time. Wilkie may retain his seat but you know as well as anyone, there is an uneasy relationship between him and Brown. Katter will win Windsor will run if Joyce is in his seat Oakshot has not a chance in hell, even if the government turn it around and win. There is a massively biased campagne being run by the redneck media against him. I consider Hadley as a criminal the way he pursues people with lies. He is so bad he will not debate Rob on his radio program. Wilkie is history, Labor will regain this seat. He has proven useless. Oakeshott made his bed the moment he sided with Gillard against the wishes of his vastly conservative electorate. There is no bias. Oakeshott is delusional, as evidenced in his idiotic rants that Gillard has done a great job. He'll cop an electoral ass-whuppin' of gigantic proportions and he knows it. As for Ray Hadley, he's asked Oakeshott numerous times to appear on his show - Oakeshott has refused each time. You should note also that Gillard has also refused to appear on his show.

The conservative vote gets split in conservative seats the more high quality Independents run.

This will undermine the coalition big time. The lazy coalition members that take their electorate for granted then are vulnerable.

More lib electioneering cash and energy has to be diverted to these seats decreasing the ability for the coalition in marginal seats.

A form of rear end battle attack on the lazy coalition.

We should have a first past the post system - thats the democracy thing... 8-) ::)

greens_lose: the master of the idiotic scenario...

So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage.


Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck?

I watched that today as well,greens win, it was very interesting. The most interesting FACT to come out of it was that 3 out of the past 7 governments had worse numbers than Labor do now even closer to elections but still won. You watch the extremist like longwhine have a little tanty over that. ;D ;D ;D

The Current Government rivals the Howard Government as the most extremist Government in Australian history and the Greens are an important factor in that and it is certainly a rival for Whitlam for the most unstable and erratic in our history too... :D :o :o

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:

The Current Government rivals the Howard Government as the most extremist Government in Australian history and the Greens are an important factor in that and it is certainly a rival for Whitlam for the most unstable and erratic in our history too... :D :o :o

I ask for extremists, and all I get are loonies. :o :P ::)

skippy. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 2:11pm: The Current Government rivals the Howard Government as the most extremist Government in Australian history and the Greens are an important factor in that and it is certainly a rival for Whitlam for the most unstable and erratic in our history too... :D :o :o I ask for extremists, and all I get are loonies. :o :P ::)

Thats not entirely fair - sure you have plenty of lunatics like Roxon, Hanson-Brown, Rudd, Swanny in the Houses of Parliament, but you also have plenty of extremists too like Bob Brown, Juliar, Combet, Bandt ect... ::) :-[ :P

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage. Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck?

in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally.

only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober...

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 1:23pm: So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage. Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck? in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally. only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober...

Its called the political cycle, both Labor and the Coalition are in exactly the same situation at different times of the cycle.
History and personal experience shows us that its nothing to get excited about

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:39pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 2:17pm: corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 2:11pm: The Current Government rivals the Howard Government as the most extremist Government in Australian history and the Greens are an important factor in that and it is certainly a rival for Whitlam for the most unstable and erratic in our history too... :D :o :o I ask for extremists, and all I get are loonies. :o :P ::) Thats not entirely fair - sure you have plenty of lunatics like Roxon, Hanson-Brown, Rudd, Swanny in the Houses of Parliament, but you also have plenty of extremists too like Bob Brown, Juliar, Combet, Bandt ect... ::) :-[ :P

And then we have the nuts - you...

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 1:23pm: So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage. Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck? in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally. only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober...

so Abbott is aiming for State Premier ... no wonder he is so off the mark politically.

adelcrow wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:20pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 4:17pm: ____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 1:23pm: So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage. Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck? in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally. only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober... Its called the political cycle, both Labor and the Coalition are in exactly the same situation at different times of the cycle. History and personal experience shows us that its nothing to get excited about

but occasionally, those cycles end up with one or other party being massively out of favour everywhere. labor is on the nose everywhere and they would lose every election - some by massive majorities.

skippy. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

I watched that today as well,greens win, it was very interesting. The most interesting FACT to come out of it was that 3 out of the past 7 governments had worse numbers than Labor do now even closer to elections but still won. You watch the extremist like longwhine have a little tanty over that. ;D ;D ;D

except it is not true. labor has NEVER had primary votes under 32% - until Gillard. dream on all you like but NO ONE with any actual knowledge is saying anythign bu that Gillard is likely to be smashed hard. And the comeback kid was Howard - a political mastermind whereas Gillard is a political dunce , making all the very basic mistakes.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:53pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 2:00pm: I watched that today as well,greens win, it was very interesting. The most interesting FACT to come out of it was that 3 out of the past 7 governments had worse numbers than Labor do now even closer to elections but still won. You watch the extremist like longwhine have a little tanty over that. ;D ;D ;D except it is not true. labor has NEVER had primary votes under 32% - until Gillard. dream on all you like but NO ONE with any actual knowledge is saying anythign bu that Gillard is likely to be smashed hard. And the comeback kid was Howard - a political mastermind whereas Gillard is a political dunce , making all the very basic mistakes.

Didn't the hard right say they would win the Australian 2010 fed election too ... and did they?

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 1:23pm: So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage. Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck? in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally. only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober...

Exactly, the Coalition will be governing 4/6 states by the end of this year, and probably 2/2 territories. NT Labor is also headed to electoral annihilation. I am not sure about the ACT, but am confident that they will win there as well. In fact, I can't picture Labor winning any state/territory election for quite some time, never mind federally. The left just can't accept these FACTS. They still actually think that Labor can win the next election, it's simultaneously sad and hilarious.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:53pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 2:00pm: I watched that today as well,greens win, it was very interesting. The most interesting FACT to come out of it was that 3 out of the past 7 governments had worse numbers than Labor do now even closer to elections but still won. You watch the extremist like longwhine have a little tanty over that. ;D ;D ;D except it is not true. labor has NEVER had primary votes under 32% - until Gillard. dream on all you like but NO ONE with any actual knowledge is saying anythign bu that Gillard is likely to be smashed hard. And the comeback kid was Howard - a political mastermind whereas Gillard is a political dunce , making all the very basic mistakes.

I take my info off experts,not closet morons, so I'll disregard your sh it. I love it how you're an expert now, you even dispute poll experts, what a wanker. ::)

matty wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 4:17pm: ____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 1:23pm: So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage. Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck? in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally. only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober... Exactly, the Coalition will be governing 4/6 states and territories by the end of this year. NT Labor is also headed to electoral annihilation. I am not sure about the ACT, but am confident that they will win there as well. In fact, I can't picture Labor winning any state/territory election for quite some time, never mind federally. The left just can't accept these FACTS. They still actually think that Labor can win the next election, it's simultaneously sad and hilarious.

So not as good as Labor were when the lying little rodent was PM,then. ::)

My analysis of the cross-bencher's chances come next election:

1. Katter - will definitely be re-elected. He is popular in his electorate, and abided by their wish for him to side with the Coalition.

2. Oakeshott - will definitelty be annihilated. He has continuously defied and ignore his electorate, in siding with Labor, and keeping this incompetent, lying and deceitful so-called government in power.

3. Windsor - will lose soundly. Same as Oakeshott, yet won't be on the same scale, as he is more popular, and not as laughable, and idiotic.

4. Crook - will probably lose, I imagine that the Liberals will regain the seat, as Crook has made some questionable calls, such as voting for the floody levy.

5. Bandt - will lose, because the Liberals will be preferencing Labor over him. He lost on the primary vote last election, and would not have been elected if not for Liberal preferences.

6. Wilkie - the most unknown and uncertain one of all. Hard to say, he will probably need preferences from both Labor and Liberals in order to have any chance, being that he came third last election. Both parties are likely to preference him ahead of each other, so he is in with a chance.

adelcrow wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:20pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 4:17pm: ____ wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 1:23pm: So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage. Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck? in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally. only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober... Its called the political cycle, both Labor and the Coalition are in exactly the same situation at different times of the cycle. History and personal experience shows us that its nothing to get excited about

Labor are unlikely to be elected for about another 20 years, at least.

matty wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

My analysis of the cross-bencher's chances come next election: 1. Katter - will definitely be re-elected. He is popular in his electorate, and abided by their wish for him to side with the Coalition. 2. Oakeshott - will definitelty be annihilated. He has continuously defied and ignore his electorate, in siding with Labor, and keeping this incompetent, lying and deceitful so-called government in power. 3. Windsor - will lose soundly. Same as Oakeshott, yet won't be on the same scale, as he is more popular, and not as laughable, and idiotic. 4. Crook - will probably lose, I imagine that the Liberals will regain the seat, as Crook has made some questionable calls, such as voting for the floody levy. 5. Bandt - will lose, because the Liberals will be preferencing Labor over him. He lost on the primary vote last election, and would not have been elected if not for Liberal preferences. 6. Wilkie - the most unknown and uncertain one of all. Hard to say, he will probably need preferences from both Labor and Liberals in order to have any chance, being that he came third last election. Both parties are likely to preference him ahead of each other, so he is in with a chance.

all corroect except Wilkie. Libs and labor will both keep preferences from him. Libs cant win the seat but they can ensure the fool Wilkie does as punishment for his stupidity.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 10:31am:

matty wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 5:06pm: My analysis of the cross-bencher's chances come next election: 1. Katter - will definitely be re-elected. He is popular in his electorate, and abided by their wish for him to side with the Coalition. 2. Oakeshott - will definitelty be annihilated. He has continuously defied and ignore his electorate, in siding with Labor, and keeping this incompetent, lying and deceitful so-called government in power. 3. Windsor - will lose soundly. Same as Oakeshott, yet won't be on the same scale, as he is more popular, and not as laughable, and idiotic. 4. Crook - will probably lose, I imagine that the Liberals will regain the seat, as Crook has made some questionable calls, such as voting for the floody levy. 5. Bandt - will lose, because the Liberals will be preferencing Labor over him. He lost on the primary vote last election, and would not have been elected if not for Liberal preferences. 6. Wilkie - the most unknown and uncertain one of all. Hard to say, he will probably need preferences from both Labor and Liberals in order to have any chance, being that he came third last election. Both parties are likely to preference him ahead of each other, so he is in with a chance. all corroect except Wilkie. Libs and labor will both keep preferences from him. Libs cant win the seat but they can ensure the fool Wilkie does as punishment for his stupidity.

Don't forget Peter Slipper......who will also lose his seat at the next election.

tonegunman1 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 11:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 10:31am: matty wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 5:06pm: My analysis of the cross-bencher's chances come next election: 1. Katter - will definitely be re-elected. He is popular in his electorate, and abided by their wish for him to side with the Coalition. 2. Oakeshott - will definitelty be annihilated. He has continuously defied and ignore his electorate, in siding with Labor, and keeping this incompetent, lying and deceitful so-called government in power. 3. Windsor - will lose soundly. Same as Oakeshott, yet won't be on the same scale, as he is more popular, and not as laughable, and idiotic. 4. Crook - will probably lose, I imagine that the Liberals will regain the seat, as Crook has made some questionable calls, such as voting for the floody levy. 5. Bandt - will lose, because the Liberals will be preferencing Labor over him. He lost on the primary vote last election, and would not have been elected if not for Liberal preferences. 6. Wilkie - the most unknown and uncertain one of all. Hard to say, he will probably need preferences from both Labor and Liberals in order to have any chance, being that he came third last election. Both parties are likely to preference him ahead of each other, so he is in with a chance. all corroect except Wilkie. Libs and labor will both keep preferences from him. Libs cant win the seat but they can ensure the fool Wilkie does as punishment for his stupidity. Don't forget Peter Slipper......who will also lose his seat at the next election.

I dont think Slipper will stand. He'd be stupid to even try. Not only is he an independent in a safe liberal seat, he is also a national traitor to his party and a drunk and a few other things. He'd be very wise to just hide...