Watch this petulant, expletive-ridden tirade by one of the most incompetent and controlling PM's we've ever had. I sure don't want an idiot who behaves like such a child to be my PM. Do you???

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/swearing-kevin-rudd-video-posted-on-you-tube-under-the-title-happy-little-vegemite/story-e6freuy9-1226274677994

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

Watch this petulant, expletive-ridden tirade by one of the most incompetent and controlling PM's we've ever had. I sure don't want an idiot who behaves like such a child to be my PM. Do you??? http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/swearing-kevin-rudd-video-posted-on-you-tube-under-the-title-happy-little-vegemite/story-e6freuy9-1226274677994

Yep just caught that, never wanted him anyway but this should sink the boat for him. All we need is to find that the PM's office leaked it.

I don't see much to be concerned about. He has red blood through his veins like I do.

I would be more concerned about the Heiner Affair.

Some want Abbott as PM.  I certainly don't either.  In any case thank goodness, for the Australian Greens.  Of which who ever wins in 2013, will have to negotiate with them.   :)

If anything, this will help him. It shows him to be just another man and not a stuck up fool who fears the media.

nairbe wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 9:48pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:35pm: Watch this petulant, expletive-ridden tirade by one of the most incompetent and controlling PM's we've ever had. I sure don't want an idiot who behaves like such a child to be my PM. Do you??? http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/swearing-kevin-rudd-video-posted-on-you-tube-under-the-title-happy-little-vegemite/story-e6freuy9-1226274677994 Yep just caught that, never wanted him anyway but this should sink the boat for him. All we need is to find that the PM's office leaked it.

who else would have leaked it ?

nairbe wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 9:48pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:35pm: Watch this petulant, expletive-ridden tirade by one of the most incompetent and controlling PM's we've ever had. I sure don't want an idiot who behaves like such a child to be my PM. Do you??? http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/swearing-kevin-rudd-video-posted-on-you-tube-under-the-title-happy-little-vegemite/story-e6freuy9-1226274677994 Yep just caught that, never wanted him anyway but this should sink the boat for him. All we need is to find that the PM's office leaked it.

Well if it did come from there she's just shoot herself in the foot again.
Or one of her pathetic staff has screwed her over once more.

This will just piss him off.

Rudd for PM I say!

Ditch the mudslingers.

Well I for one am open minded, I want to see who is prepared to distance the labour party from the extreme Greens and put them last on the preferences, I want to see who is committed to job security and social security,  not just bullshitting us about all of the casual and temporary jobs they are creating.   Put up or shut up Gillard, Rudd, Abbott & Turnbull, make me believe... 8-)

I don't see the big deal. He was frustrated with himself - if a bit of swearing in what he thought was a safe environment is all they've got on him, Rudd's probably the right man for the job. If there was a hidden gay sex tape or evidence of corruption, we'd certainly know about it.

If Gillard authorised the release of this, she is obviously more concerned with maintaining her tenuous grasp on power than the good of the country.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:48am:

I don't see the big deal. He was frustrated with himself - if a bit of swearing in what he thought was a safe environment is all they've got on him, Rudd's probably the right man for the job. If there was a hidden gay sex tape or evidence of corruption, we'd certainly know about it. If Gillard authorised the release of this, she is obviously more concerned with maintaining her tenuous grasp on power than the good of the country.

As I said in another thread, this would make me more likely
to vote for him, not less, and if it was meant to undermine
any leadership challenge I reckon it will fail to do so.

We've ALL been frustrated like that, and I don't see why he
should be any different.

the timing!!!!... its all about the timing??????

Is it just me, or had Federal Level Politics just lost the plot?

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:37am:

Is it just me, or had Federal Level Politics just lost the plot?

No, it's not just you.  Not one of them is worth the price we have to pay for them to "reign over us".  If this lot are the best we can come up with then heaven help us.  And that goes for all sides of the current political crop.

The Growing trend in Australia is to Keep kicking the  Man till his Down.

Be Ashamed !

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:37am:

Is it just me, or had Federal Level Politics just lost the plot?

No, not just you.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

Watch this petulant, expletive-ridden tirade by one of the most incompetent and controlling PM's we've ever had. I sure don't want an idiot who behaves like such a child to be my PM. Do you???

I was originally dissapointed that Rudd was overthrown because it was unfair. However I never really rated him, he was a good opposition leader against a failing government but in power he was not able to covert good policy ideas into reality.

Gillard has never got a fair go and dosent look like she will I think she may have been OK but a bit weak for my liking on important policy where she tends to negotiate away a lot of the substance to minority interest groups.

Remember though it can always get worse we may have to face the prospect of Tony Abbott, now there is a disaster just waiting to happen.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:23am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:35pm: Watch this petulant, expletive-ridden tirade by one of the most incompetent and controlling PM's we've ever had. I sure don't want an idiot who behaves like such a child to be my PM. Do you??? I was originally dissapointed that Rudd was overthrown because it was unfair. However I never really rated him, he was a good opposition leader against a failing government but in power he was not able to covert good policy ideas into reality. Gillard has never got a fair go and dosent look like she will I think she may have been OK but a bit weak for my liking on important policy where she tends to negotiate away a lot of the substance to minority interest groups. Remember though it can always get worse we may have to face the prospect of Tony Abbott, now there is a disaster just waiting to happen.

you make me laugh dna.. you cant give a high five to either of the burks you voted in... yet you wont give Abbott a chance even though he was never even Deputy PM.. or even Deputy leader..

I think give the guy a chance we did give gillard a chance. but the BIG LIE was her main downfall..everyone was gobsmacked except you..

she lost respect and credibility all at the same time.. since then she has shown how far she wil go to hang onto her leadership... a steady ship is not her problem..Slipper.. Jenkins.. hmmmmmm anything to remain there..

I too am shocked that she is nowhere near the person I thought she was.. I didnt like her that much but to see what feet of clay she has has astounded me..shes tough and obviously doesnt give a fig what people think of her.... but is that really how we want a PM to be?????

I dont think we have to like them... but we do need a certain amount of respect..she can be tough but at what cost??? someone elses job...

I dont call that tough I call that taking advantage of your position.a cowards way out.

Rudd is a tantrum-throwing pansy.

Who can work with him?

I'm bemused as to how he could still figure as a popular choice for PM.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:23am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:35pm: Watch this petulant, expletive-ridden tirade by one of the most incompetent and controlling PM's we've ever had. I sure don't want an idiot who behaves like such a child to be my PM. Do you??? I was originally dissapointed that Rudd was overthrown because it was unfair. However I never really rated him, he was a good opposition leader against a failing government but in power he was not able to covert good policy ideas into reality. Gillard has never got a fair go and dosent look like she will I think she may have been OK but a bit weak for my liking on important policy where she tends to negotiate away a lot of the substance to minority interest groups. Remember though it can always get worse we may have to face the prospect of Tony Abbott, now there is a disaster just waiting to happen.

Have to agree there.  An abject failure as Health Minister so I cannot understand why anyone would think he would somehow be different as PM.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:23am:

However I never really rated him, he was a good opposition leader against a failing government but in power he was not able to covert good policy ideas into reality. .

Hahaha

In comparison to the dross at the head of the ALP now, he was positively a genius.

I didn't mind Rudd as a leader - he is head and shoulders above Gillard who is so out of her depth its not funny.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:42am:

Rudd is a tantrum-throwing pansy. Who can work with him? I'm bemused as to how he could still figure as a popular choice for PM.

People have their rose coloured glasses well and truly on is the only answer I can come up with. If he were to get the leadership again, people would soon remember why it was they didn't like him to the point where the party ditched him.

Rudd killed Rudd, nobody else. So why this nostalgically wistful wish to bring him back? Beats me.

Gist wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:50am:

Rudd killed Rudd, nobody else. So why this nostalgically wistful wish to bring him back? Beats me.

Because what is in charge now is infinitely worse.

When you have total sh*te at the helm you look back to better days.

Hence why last year when a survey was conducted of "Who would you prefer now if you could pick any President to lead?"

The winner was Ronald Reagan, just in front of JFK.

Better days, better leader.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:01am:

Gist wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 9:50am: Rudd killed Rudd, nobody else. So why this nostalgically wistful wish to bring him back? Beats me. Because what is in charge now is infinitely worse. When you have total sh*te at the helm you look back to better days. Hence why last year when a survey was conducted of "Who would you prefer now if you could pick any President to lead?" The winner was Ronald Reagan, just in front of JFK. Better days, better leader.

Was that survey conducted at a Tea Party bingo night for the intellectually impaired?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:01am:

Gist wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 9:50am: Rudd killed Rudd, nobody else. So why this nostalgically wistful wish to bring him back? Beats me. Because what is in charge now is infinitely worse. When you have total sh*te at the helm you look back to better days. Hence why last year when a survey was conducted of "Who would you prefer now if you could pick any President to lead?" The winner was Ronald Reagan, just in front of JFK. Better days, better leader.

More likely because Reagan is within living memory of many... FD Roosevelt is not... JFK, despite the hype and the circumstances, was only a definite maybe... Johnson? Vietname War, Nixon? Need I say more?... Ford? Who?... Carter? Well... There's that pesky Iran balls-up... George Bush 1... Forgettable... Clinton? Well we all know what a bunch of hypocritical, neo-puritanical prudes Americans are... George Bush 2... Singularly the biggest idiot with the most disastrous Presidency since Nixon... Obama - a sitting President anyway, with the jury out on what his final legacy will be.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:01am: Gist wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 9:50am: Rudd killed Rudd, nobody else. So why this nostalgically wistful wish to bring him back? Beats me. Because what is in charge now is infinitely worse. When you have total sh*te at the helm you look back to better days. Hence why last year when a survey was conducted of "Who would you prefer now if you could pick any President to lead?" The winner was Ronald Reagan, just in front of JFK. Better days, better leader. Was that survey conducted at a Tea Party bingo night for the intellectually impaired?

And you think that's the forum for why Reagan would be popular.

Not sure if you know much history love but Ronald Reagan was the most popular President in US history.

His feat of being re-elected with 49 states out of 50 has never been equalled (or likely every will be).

As he said when elected "I tell ya, you ain't seen nuthin yet".

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:08am:

His feat of being re-elected with 49 states out of 50 has never been equalled (or likely every will be).

Not hard to do when the previous President was an unsuccessful peacenik in a militaristic society.


Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:08am:

As he said when elected "I tell ya, you ain't seen nuthin yet".

Except beating Roosevelt... Who hung onto the Presidency like a Pope ;D

cods wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:37am:

you make me laugh dna.. you cant give a high five to either of the burks you voted in... yet you wont give Abbott a chance even though he was never even Deputy PM.. or even Deputy leader..

There were always very good reasons why that was the case.


cods wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:37am:

I think give the guy a chance we did give gillard a chance. but the BIG LIE was her main downfall..everyone was gobsmacked except you..

You didn't give Gillard one day the campaign against her started well before the carbon tax.

I gaurantee that if elected I will give him more rope than your mob ever gave Julia.

Yes I do not think the big lie was in fact very big.

I was dissapointed that she made the commitment and also that she failed to keep her promise.

It's not even a real tax, not one person positing here will ever pay one cent of carbon tax.

Had Mr Howard done the same thing it would have hardly even rated a headline and certainly would not have still been pushed in the media 15 months later.

It's a nothing story which has been kept alive for political reasons.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:08am: His feat of being re-elected with 49 states out of 50 has never been equalled (or likely every will be). Not hard to do when the previous President was an unsuccessful peacenik in a militaristic society. Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:08am: As he said when elected "I tell ya, you ain't seen nuthin yet". Except beating Roosevelt... Who hung onto the Presidency like a Pope ;D

You know he came within a couple of votes of winning Mondale's home state and winning every single state.

I went to the Reagan Library in CA last year and you know what?
You can pick up a licence plate for any of the 49 states for that year.
I have "CALIFORNIA - IS REAGAN COUNTRY"

Anyway I digress - my point goes back to Rudd.

People when under the leadership of poor, out of touch weak leaders revert to wanting to be back under when times were better.

This is true for Australia now and for the US.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Not hard to do when the previous President was an unsuccessful peacenik in a militaristic society.

True but this was in 1984 when Reagan was running on his own record of achievement.
Makes the result that more impressive.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:10am: Not hard to do when the previous President was an unsuccessful peacenik in a militaristic society. True but this was in 1984 when Reagan was running on his own record of achievement. Makes the result that more impressive.

Never mind the Iran-Contra affair... And his covert dealings with Iran to destabilise Carter's campaign for a second term... Echoes of Nixon and his promises of "peace" with the North Vietnamese.

wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 9:59pm:

Some want Abbott as PM.  I certainly don't either.  In any case thank goodness, for the Australian Greens.  Of which who ever wins in 2013, will have to negotiate with them.   :)

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Are you clairvoyant or something?

How can you judge Abbott when he has not yet shown what he can do or will?

At the moment, Abbott and Co are simply doing what the country pays them to do - watch the government and reveal how this government is running us into the ground with a deficit that will bite into the earnings of our great grandchildren.

You might be in a good position in the government's employ BUT remember, this governmnt is sucking dry the taxpayers and one day, that'll come to a full stop.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:15am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:10am: Not hard to do when the previous President was an unsuccessful peacenik in a militaristic society. True but this was in 1984 when Reagan was running on his own record of achievement. Makes the result that more impressive. Never mind the Iran-Contra affair... And his covert dealings with Iran to destabilise Carter's campaign for a second term... Echoes of Nixon and his promises of "peace" with the North Vietnamese.

You'll struggle to blot Reagan's name with the American people.
The man has mythical status for what he achieved and for his defeating of Communism.

You know what - given the choice between living in America under Reagan and living now under this idiot in the White House - you ask everyday Americans what they would prefer?
I could guess at the answer.....

1980 - 1988 in America was an infinitely better place and society than it is now.
Reagan can take a lot of that credit.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:14am:

Anyway I digress - my point goes back to Rudd. People when under the leadership of poor, out of touch weak leaders revert to wanting to be back under when times were better. This is true for Australia now and for the US.

Times ain't all that bad here... Nothing like what's happening in the US... Having been sucked into the maelstrom of its own greed, and dragging most of the west with it.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:21am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:14am: Anyway I digress - my point goes back to Rudd. People when under the leadership of poor, out of touch weak leaders revert to wanting to be back under when times were better. This is true for Australia now and for the US. Times ain't all that bad here... Nothing like what's happening in the US... Having been sucked into the maelstrom of its own greed, and dragging most of the west with it.

Have you seen the responses of the Australians asked on their views on the economy and the performance of the current Australian Government??

They don't seem to share your view for the most part.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:18am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:15am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:10am: Not hard to do when the previous President was an unsuccessful peacenik in a militaristic society. True but this was in 1984 when Reagan was running on his own record of achievement. Makes the result that more impressive. Never mind the Iran-Contra affair... And his covert dealings with Iran to destabilise Carter's campaign for a second term... Echoes of Nixon and his promises of "peace" with the North Vietnamese. You'll struggle to blot Reagan's name with the American people. The man has mythical status for what he achieved and for his defeating of Communism. You know what - given the choice between living in America under Reagan and living now under this idiot in the White House - you ask everyday Americans what they would prefer? I could guess at the answer..... 1980 - 1988 in America was an infinitely better place and society than it is now. Reagan can take a lot of that credit.

Well, of course they would (that's as far back as most can remember).

Look at the mess they've made of their society... And their nostalgic "good times" were characterised by what? Wall Street greed! Somewhat Jungian that they should be haunted again by (and hanker for) their innate dark side barely 2 decades later.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:42am:

Rudd is a tantrum-throwing pansy. Who can work with him? I'm bemused as to how he could still figure as a popular choice for PM.

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Maybe Rudd(like Faust) made a deal with the devil and now is in possession of the magic wand -

one that will put the cancerous deficit into remission..

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:22am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:21am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:14am: Anyway I digress - my point goes back to Rudd. People when under the leadership of poor, out of touch weak leaders revert to wanting to be back under when times were better. This is true for Australia now and for the US. Times ain't all that bad here... Nothing like what's happening in the US... Having been sucked into the maelstrom of its own greed, and dragging most of the west with it. Have you seen the responses of the Australians asked on their views on the economy and the performance of the current Australian Government?? They don't seem to share your view for the most part.

Guess I'm lucky to be living way out west where the rain don't fall where they drill for gas and dig for red oil... ;D

It's not greed.

It's success.

My aims in my career are to get as high as I can, hold as much power as I can and earn as much money as possible.

That's society, that's capitalism.
That's just how it is.

if people don;t like that they can go live in Albania and plant potatoes with an ox or something.

Come on, there was nothing wrong with the success of America and the society of the 1980s was an open, better society than now.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:27am:

It's not greed. It's success. My aims in my career are to get as high as I can, hold as much power as I can and earn as much money as possible. That's society, that's capitalism. That's just how it is.

keep thinking that... And get in early to be part of the 2025 meltdown...

Start listening to those  3:00AM voices... ;)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

Watch this petulant, expletive-ridden tirade by one of the most incompetent and controlling PM's we've ever had. I sure don't want an idiot who behaves like such a child to be my PM. Do you??? http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/swearing-kevin-rudd-video-posted-on-you-tube-under-the-title-happy-little-vegemite/story-e6freuy9-1226274677994

The only way Rudd could get in good with the electorate is to postpone the carbon tax but that would displease Bob Brown*urd.

However, Bobby won't take his bat and go home because he knows that an election would end his traitorous intent.