I have been sent this post on the Net about the Aboriginals burning the Australian Flag. I couldn't agree more with its contents...The Red Baron

I wasn't going to comment on this, but it's burning me up... now to the indigenous people of Australia , I understand how you feel. I know why the tent embassy is there, and know about your wishes for a Sovereign Treaty. I am sure the vast majority of indigenous Australians that I know will agree with what I am about to say, but If I offend you, you may as well delete me, because I am far from finished.


The Australian Government has publicly acknowledged your rights to the land. They said sorry, and you accepted that apology. Tony Abbott was right. It's time to move on. Your wishes for a Sovereign Treaty will not be granted. They are all based on MONEY. You want all the rights to all the land that will make you money. The government bends over backwards, providing indigenous Australians additional welfare, funding, housing etc etc etc. This money comes from taxes, provided by working Australians, and big business, most of whom use that land you want to be paid for, so you can sit on your arses and do nothing. It's just not going to happen.


We cannot change the past, and for the past, we have apologised, but we can change the future, and promote racial understanding. What a small group of indigenous Australians did on Australia day was outrageous. To burn the flag on the steps of parliament was an act of desecration, and probably the most racially offensive and unpatriotic act I have seen in this country. You have put racial understanding back 100 years in this country, and only you are responsible for the retaliation this will bring from an outraged country. Not to mention how you treated the Prime Minister, despite her party being responsible for tipping off your demonstration.


While it might not mean much to some people in this country, that flag represents the very soul of who I am, and what I believe in. I wear that flag on my uniform every day. I fly that flag when I go overseas to defend this country's freedom. I have draped that flag over a mate’s coffin, and presented that flag to the mourning family of a fallen comrade. You people are not Australian, and if I see someone burning my flag, and I am close enough, I will stomp your guts into the ground. If you are not prepared to accept this country the way it is, accept our apologies for something the current generation was not responsible for, and embrace a multicultural society, one which Australia was built on 200 years ago, then pack your bags, and go find another country where you can take handouts, complain you are hard done by, and burn their flag. Because you are not welcome here while I am defending your rights, and paying taxes to support your welfare. GTF OUT.
      

You got my vote Red Baron.
Good post.

Yes, I'd go along with that.....

in a rare moment of balance and reason ...





Flag burning not criminal, says PM
January 27, 2006



Burning the Australian flag was offensive but should not be made a criminal offence, Prime Minister John Howard said today.

Mr Howard said the burning of the Australian flag by Aboriginal protesters in Brisbane yesterday was offensive but was not indicative of mainstream indigenous opinion.

"It was offensive," he told Southern Cross Broadcasting.

"I don't think it represents mainstream Aboriginal opinion."

But he said it should not be made a criminal offence because it was an expression of political opinion.

"Much as all I despise what they did I do not believe it should be a criminal offence" he said.

"I see that kind of thing as just as expression, however offensive to the majority of the Australian community, an expression of political opinion"

"I do not think we achieve anything by making it a criminal offence - we only turn yahoo behaviour into martyrdom."

He said it would not engender greater respect for the Australian flag which was already greatly respected by Australian people.



http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/flag-burning-not-criminal-says-pm/2006/01/27/1138066948667.html

Quote:

then pack your bags, and go find another country where you can take handouts, complain you are hard done by, and burn their flag.

Considering Indigenous Australians were here about 60,000 years before our generous liberation, perhaps your friend and anyone else who thinks like you should be the ones to get out.

People wear the flag, lie on it at the beach and use it to dry their filthy bodies and their dishes. They step on it when it's disguised as a pair of thongs and have it made into bikinis and underwear.

All in the name of national pride, of course.

Yet when a couple of Indigenous Australians burn something that symbolises oppression for them, everyone's up in arms.

Quote:

Mr Howard said the burning of the Australian flag by Aboriginal protesters in Brisbane yesterday was offensive but was not indicative of mainstream indigenous opinion.

LOL.  I don't think Mr Howard had met too many abos when he said this. 

But I do agree with the rest - it's offensive, but we don't need another law to handle it.  i think a better solution would be for "the law" to look the other way, and allow the offended party to let their disgust be felt.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:38am:

Quote: then pack your bags, and go find another country where you can take handouts, complain you are hard done by, and burn their flag. Considering Indigenous Australians were here about 60,000 years before our generous liberation, perhaps your friend and anyone else who thinks like you should be the ones to get out. People wear the flag, lie on it at the beach and use it to dry their filthy bodies and their dishes. They step on it when it's disguised as a pair of thongs and have it made into bikinis and underwear. All in the name of national pride, of course. Yet when a couple of Indigenous Australians burn something that symbolises oppression for them, everyone's up in arms.

The flag is not a 'something' Annie.

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:29am:

I have been sent this post on the Net about the Aboriginals burning the Australian Flag. I couldn't agree more with its contents...The Red Baron I wasn't going to comment on this, but it's burning me up... now to the indigenous people of Australia , I understand how you feel. I know why the tent embassy is there, and know about your wishes for a Sovereign Treaty. I am sure the vast majority of indigenous Australians that I know will agree with what I am about to say, but If I offend you, you may as well delete me, because I am far from finished. The Australian Government has publicly acknowledged your rights to the land. They said sorry, and you accepted that apology. Tony Abbott was right. It's time to move on. Your wishes for a Sovereign Treaty will not be granted. They are all based on MONEY. You want all the rights to all the land that will make you money. The government bends over backwards, providing indigenous Australians additional welfare, funding, housing etc etc etc. This money comes from taxes, provided by working Australians, and big business, most of whom use that land you want to be paid for, so you can sit on your arses and do nothing. It's just not going to happen. We cannot change the past, and for the past, we have apologised, but we can change the future, and promote racial understanding. What a small group of indigenous Australians did on Australia day was outrageous. To burn the flag on the steps of parliament was an act of desecration, and probably the most racially offensive and unpatriotic act I have seen in this country. You have put racial understanding back 100 years in this country, and only you are responsible for the retaliation this will bring from an outraged country. Not to mention how you treated the Prime Minister, despite her party being responsible for tipping off your demonstration. While it might not mean much to some people in this country, that flag represents the very soul of who I am, and what I believe in. I wear that flag on my uniform every day. I fly that flag when I go overseas to defend this country's freedom. I have draped that flag over a mate’s coffin, and presented that flag to the mourning family of a fallen comrade. You people are not Australian, and if I see someone burning my flag, and I am close enough, I will stomp your guts into the ground. If you are not prepared to accept this country the way it is, accept our apologies for something the current generation was not responsible for, and embrace a multicultural society, one which Australia was built on 200 years ago, then pack your bags, and go find another country where you can take handouts, complain you are hard done by, and burn their flag. Because you are not welcome here while I am defending your rights, and paying taxes to support your welfare. GTF OUT.

You have my vote Red Baron.
What about these lefty laws where you are now banned form offending anyone ? Don't they apply here.
I am offended, it was intended to offend.

Quote:

"It's the Soldier" By: Charles M. Province A protest raged on a courthouse lawn, Round a makeshift stage they charged on, Fifteen hundred or more they say, Had come to burn a Flag that day. A boy held up the folded Flag, Cursed it, and called it a dirty rag. An OLD MAN pushed through the angry crowd, With a rusty shotgun shouldered proud. His uniform jacket was old and tight, He had polished each button, shiny and bright. He crossed that stage with a soldier's grace, Until he and the boy stood face to face. "FREEDOM OF SPEECH", the OLD MAN said, "Is worth dying for, good men are dead, So you can stand on this courthouse lawn, And talk us down from dusk to dawn, But before any Flag gets burned today, This OLD MAN IS GOING TO HAVE HIS SAY!! My father died on a foreign shore, In a war they said would end all war. But Tommy and I wasn't even full grown, Before we fought in a war of our own. And Tommy died on Iwo Jima's beach, In the shadow of a hill he couldn't quite reach Where five good men raised this Flag so high, That the WHOLE WORLD COULD SEE IT FLY. I got this bum leg that I still drag, Fighting for this same old Flag. Now there's but one shot in this old gun, So now it's time to decide which one, Which one of you will follow our lead, To stand and die for what you believe? For as sure as there is a rising sun, You'll burn before this Flag burns, son. Now this riot never came to pass. The crowd got quiet and that can of gas, Got set aside as they walked away To talk about what they had heard this day. And the boy who had called it a "dirty rag", Handed the OLD SOLDIER the folded Flag. So the battle of the Flag this day was won By a tired OLD SOLDIER with a rusty gun, Who for one last time, had to show to some, THIS FLAG MAY FADE, YET THESE COLORS DON'T RUN

The flag is never a 'something' to those of us who have served.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:38am:

People wear the flag, lie on it at the beach and use it to dry their filthy bodies and their dishes. They step on it when it's disguised as a pair of thongs and have it made into bikinis and underwear.

I DON'T think it ever recovered from THIS trauma


http://vic.onenation.com.au/paulinehanson.jpg







I feel more for THIS flag ...



http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201008/r621704_4178015.jpg



... (and all that it STANDS for) which pre-dates our British flag, by 50 years




  ( ... the recently restored ORIGINAL, now hangs in all it's glory in the Art Gallery of Ballarat)

What a load of utter nonsense.

" ... and I am close enough, I will stomp your guts into the ground."

Advocating physical violence now?  Lovely.

While we're on the subject of flag waving idiocy:

"People who fly Australian flags on their cars have more racist views than the rest of the population, a new study has found.

"Many flag flyers also support the now-defunct White Australia Policy and are afraid the Australian culture is under threat, researchers from the University of Western Australia say."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-24/aussie-flag-bearers-more-racist3a-survey/3790172

Oh noes!  Not physical violence!!!

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 11:17am:

Oh noes!  Not physical violence!!!

Yes, unfortunately some people just never evolve.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/tne/lowres/tnen38l.jpg

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 11:26am:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 11:17am: Oh noes!  Not physical violence!!! Yes, unfortunately some people just never evolve. http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/tne/lowres/tnen38l.jpg

Evolution is based on what provides one with the best odds of survival.  Physical weakness, and an aversion to the use of effective means available to you, actually count against your chances of survival.  Evolution isn't just a buzz word mate.  Nor does it happen like it does in Pokemon.

If you commit an act that has NO other purpose than to offend, it's pretty weak to then have a sook when you get some come-uppance.

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:29am:

While it might not mean much to some people in this country, that flag represents the very soul of who I am, and what I believe in. I wear that flag on my uniform every day. I fly that flag when I go overseas to defend this country's freedom. I have draped that flag over a mate’s coffin, and presented that flag to the mourning family of a fallen comrade. You people are not Australian, and if I see someone burning my flag, and I am close enough, I will stomp your guts into the ground.

A flag represents the "soul of who I am"?

This fellow is clearly a post-modernist.

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

If you commit an act that has NO other purpose than to offend, it's pretty weak to then have a sook when you get some come-uppance.

What's weak is when physical violence is used in response to one merely being offended.  Weak, cowardly and a good indication of an extremely low IQ.

Some people just never evolve.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v8NtXabd-Io/TriO6yQgRFI/AAAAAAAABnE/uYU3rsF9jAc/s1600/caveman.jpg

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 11:35am: If you commit an act that has NO other purpose than to offend, it's pretty weak to then have a sook when you get some come-uppance. What's weak is when physical violence is used in response to one merely being offended.  Weak, cowardly and a good indication of an extremely low IQ. Some people just never evolve. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v8NtXabd-Io/TriO6yQgRFI/AAAAAAAABnE/uYU3rsF9jAc/s1600/caveman.jpg

Well if/when you get stomped out, feel free to tell your assailant that they are weak, cowardly and stupid.  Let me know how that works out for you OK?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Well if/when you get stomped out, feel free to tell your assailant that they are weak, cowardly and stupid.  Let me know how that works out for you OK? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Once again, you've gone off topic (that's a bad habit of yours).

I have no problem with physical force being used as a means of self defence.

Read what I posted again:

"What's weak is when physical violence is used in response to one merely being offended."

See?  In response to merely being offended.

If someone uses violence because they feel offended, they are most certainly a weak, cowardly person with an extremely low IQ.

Some people just never evolve.

http://flightofthepenguin.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/caveman.jpg

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 11:46am: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 11:35am: If you commit an act that has NO other purpose than to offend, it's pretty weak to then have a sook when you get some come-uppance. What's weak is when physical violence is used in response to one merely being offended.  Weak, cowardly and a good indication of an extremely low IQ. Some people just never evolve. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v8NtXabd-Io/TriO6yQgRFI/AAAAAAAABnE/uYU3rsF9jAc/s1600/caveman.jpg Well if/when you get stomped out, feel free to tell your assailant that they are weak, cowardly and stupid.  Let me know how that works out for you OK? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

They are weak, cowardly and stupid - and it works for me.  I love the sound of thugs griping with unrequited Patriotism in the morning... 8-)

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 11:49am: Well if/when you get stomped out, feel free to tell your assailant that they are weak, cowardly and stupid.  Let me know how that works out for you OK? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Once again, you've gone off topic (that's a bad habit of yours). I have no problem with physical force being used as a means of self defence. Read what I posted again: "What's weak is when physical violence is used in response to one merely being offended." See?  In response to merely being offended. If someone uses violence because they feel offended, they are most certainly a weak, cowardly person with an extremely low IQ. Some people just never evolve. http://flightofthepenguin.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/caveman.jpg

All well and good.  But low IQ, violent people are still people.   But regardless what you think of them, you're still getting stomped out by a weak, cowardly, stupid person.  Not much consolation when you're the one spitting teeth is it?

I think we should help them.

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

But regardless what you think of them, you're still getting stomped out by a weak, cowardly, stupid person.  Not much consolation when you're the one spitting teeth is it?

I wouldn't be spitting teeth.

As I said, I have no problem with physical force being used in self defence.

I'd use it, and I'd win.

Turn the other cheek.

Ah,testosterone.


Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 12:39pm:

Turn the other cheek.

An eye for an eye?

You scratch my back I'll scratch yours?

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 12:26pm:  But regardless what you think of them, you're still getting stomped out by a weak, cowardly, stupid person.  Not much consolation when you're the one spitting teeth is it? I wouldn't be spitting teeth. As I said, I have no problem with physical force being used in self defence. I'd use it, and I'd win.

Of course you would, dear.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

I think we should help them.

I agree. 

Who are we helping again?

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 12:57pm:

Of course you would, dear.

Ease up on the "dear".

Next thing you'll be asking for a SS marriage.

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 12:57pm: Of course you would, dear. Ease up on the "dear". Next thing you'll be asking for a SS marriage.

Whatever you say, pet.

It's a trick, Uncle Meat - a trick, I tell you!

Don't turn your back for an instant!

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 1:03pm:

It's a trick, Uncle Meat - a trick, I tell you! Don't turn your back for an instant!

I knew there was something funny about his anti gay marriage stance.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Nothing wrong with that though is there, big boy?

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Nothing wrong with that though is there, big boy?

Nothing at all.

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 1:13pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:10pm: Nothing wrong with that though is there, big boy? Nothing at all.

So why did you call me a lady?
Does being a hommer make you less of a man?

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 1:17pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:13pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:10pm: Nothing wrong with that though is there, big boy? Nothing at all. So why did you call me a lady? Does being a hommer make you less of a man?

It's a commonly used phrase that comes from Shakespeare's Hamlet. It's a direct quote, therefore ,"lady" is used for both sexes.

The phrase has come to mean that one can "insist so passionately about something not being true that people suspect the opposite of what one is saying."

It's always used in that form.  Never "The man doth protest too much, methinks".  That wouldn't be a direct quote.

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 1:17pm:

Does being a hommer make you less of a man?

I have no idea what a "hommer" is.

Did you mean Hummer?

http://www.impressivelimos.com.au/photos/gallery/pink_hummer.jpg

As someone who did a SignCraft course on behlaf of his 'Flag Designs' years ago and can honestly say "He designed 'the' Flag of the future (for a while)."

1. The Australian Flag is the property of the UK. It is Crown property ...as is still a lot of land, etc. You want the Flag, you buy it!
2. For all those 'Aussies' who go on about "their father's having fought under the Flag" when Peter Fitzsimmons (author of Tobruk, Gallipoli, etc) has proved such as rubbish.
3. A future Australian Flag is not just for Australians, it is also an expression of 'Art' that brings meaning and plays its part in the grand scheme of things for the Rest of the World as well. We are all in it together.
4. For 'Westernised' Aussies who think they are deserving of 'high and mighty' compared to 'The West (USA)' - I suggest you go to the USA or just shut up and shop. Annie is right - the Flag can be used as Toilet paper and Kangaroo and Emu should be eaten as they are better quality meat compared to the C-grade Lamb that is flogged to us on 'an' Australia Day.
5. Is it really about the Flag burning, or is it about a 'type' of Aboriginal that has become 'politicised' and reflects what 'political' Australia, especially at Federal Level, has become?
6. Not all Aboriginals agree with the 'Koori' Flag.
7. I'm sure there's more... ;)

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 1:20pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:17pm: Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:13pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:10pm: Nothing wrong with that though is there, big boy? Nothing at all. So why did you call me a lady? Does being a hommer make you less of a man? It's a commonly used phrase that comes from Shakespeare's Hamlet. It's a direct quote, therefore ,"lady" is used for both sexes. The phrase has come to mean that one can "insist so passionately about something not being true that people suspect the opposite of what one is saying." It's always used in that form.  Never "The man doth protest too much, methinks".  That wouldn't be a direct quote.

I'm well aware of the quote, and well aware that it could have been adapted had you not intended to   call me a lady.

Careful, your double standards are showing.  You can't defned homosexuality as 'normal' and 'equal' and then turn around and use it a slur.

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 1:26pm:

Careful, your double standards are showing.  You can't defned homosexuality as 'normal' and 'equal' and then turn around and use it a slur.

No double standards at all.

I used the direct quote, as it is intended.

And now, I feel I need to reiterate:

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I have no problem with your sexuality.  However, I must decline your previous advances as I don't bat for the other team.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

It is intended to refer to a female.

Are homosexual men females in your eyes, meat?

That's homophobic.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:05pm:

That's homophobic.

Yeah it is, homo.
:)

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

It is intended to refer to a female.

No, it's a unisex phrase.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lady_doth_protest_too_much,_methinks.


... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

Are homosexual men females in your eyes, meat?

No.  They're people in my eyes.

However, if you wish to identify as a female I'm ok with that.

Whatever makes you (and your partner) happy.  I'm not about to rock your boat.

http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/2774/317983-bga.jpg

the lady doth protest too much, methinks.

How do you sleep at night, being such a shameless liar?  IF it wasn't intended as a slur on the "manliness" of homsexual men, you could have just done what your own link says:


Quote:

The phrase is often misquoted as "Methinks the lady doth protest too much."[2] and is commonly used in the second person as "Methinks thou dost protest too much."

Is it ok just to burn the top left corner?

What's happened to the world these days???

We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business.

I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it.

Now you can't even make a small comment without everyone taking offence.

Now we've got people claiming "stress", "depression" off work etc.

Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world??

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:40pm: Are homosexual men females in your eyes, meat? No.  They're people in my eyes.

Oh so females are not even people?  Sub-human are they?

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:10pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:40pm: Are homosexual men females in your eyes, meat? No.  They're people in my eyes. Oh so females are not even people?  Sub-human are they?

I love chicks me. Always have.
Just not in positions of power!  ;)

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:16pm:

Is it ok just to burn the top left corner?

That's the best bit about your flag!  :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9V96ZfyTu8[/

:)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:16pm: Is it ok just to burn the top left corner? That's the best bit about your flag!  :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9V96ZfyTu8[/ :)

Yeah because the best thing about my country is some old twat women half way around the world who does absolutley nothing

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

What's happened to the world these days??? We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business. I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it. Now you can't even make a small comment without everyone taking offence. Now we've got people claiming "stress", "depression" off work etc. Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world??

Exactly. We used to have a sign up saying "no boongs". Can anyone tell me what's wrong with that?

Ridiculous.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: What's happened to the world these days??? We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business. I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it. Now you can't even make a small comment without everyone taking offence. Now we've got people claiming "stress", "depression" off work etc. Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world?? Exactly. We used to have a sign up saying "no boongs". Can anyone tell me what's wrong with that? Ridiculous.

I'm not getting into a discussion of exact signs etc.
BUT - by you're basically saying all previous generations were racist and homophobic and that we know better.

Pretty arrogant.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

What's happened to the world these days??? We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business. I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it. Now you can't even make a small comment without everyone taking offence. Now we've got people claiming "stress", "depression" off work etc. Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world??

No kidding,
I miss being able to hang all those damn black people and not have some people complaining about 'human rights' and such.

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:10pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:40pm: Are homosexual men females in your eyes, meat? No.  They're people in my eyes. Oh so females are not even people?  Sub-human are they?

Why would you even suggest such a thing?

Your true colours are coming out now.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: What's happened to the world these days??? We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business. I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it. Now you can't even make a small comment without everyone taking offence. Now we've got people claiming "stress", "depression" off work etc. Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world?? No kidding, I miss being able to hang all those damn black people and not have some people complaining about 'human rights' and such.

As expected.
Totally missed my point.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:18pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:10pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:40pm: Are homosexual men females in your eyes, meat? No.  They're people in my eyes. Oh so females are not even people?  Sub-human are they? I love chicks me. Always have. Just not in positions of power!  ;)

So, you prefer to be on top?

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:26pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:18pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:10pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:40pm: Are homosexual men females in your eyes, meat? No.  They're people in my eyes. Oh so females are not even people?  Sub-human are they? I love chicks me. Always have. Just not in positions of power!  ;) So, you prefer to be on top?

Mate I am always on top.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:19pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:16pm: Is it ok just to burn the top left corner? That's the best bit about your flag!  :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9V96ZfyTu8[/ :) Yeah because the best thing about my country is some old twat women half way around the world who does absolutley nothing

No it represents my country which fking built your country for you.

Feel free to thank us anytime.....

If you do, we may even give a chance when you come and play us in cricket this time around.....

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:23pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: What's happened to the world these days??? We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business. I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it. Now you can't even make a small comment without everyone taking offence. Now we've got people claiming "stress", "depression" off work etc. Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world?? Exactly. We used to have a sign up saying "no boongs". Can anyone tell me what's wrong with that? Ridiculous. I'm not getting into a discussion of exact signs etc. BUT - by you're basically saying all previous generations were racist and homophobic and that we know better. Pretty arrogant.

Me? Not at all! I'm saying they had it right on the money.

If you own or rent or are granted property by the government you should have the right to exclude whichever races you want.

I am saying that this generation seems determined to pander to minorities far more than prior generations which is ludicrous.

Take gay marriage. By saying it should be allowed - we are saying every generation prior to us was wrong.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

No it represents my country which fking built your country for you.

You mean "our" country, A.H.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: What's happened to the world these days??? We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business. I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it. Now you can't even make a small comment without everyone taking offence. Now we've got people claiming "stress", "depression" off work etc. Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world?? No kidding, I miss being able to hang all those damn black people and not have some people complaining about 'human rights' and such.

I read the other day that blacks kill more other blacks in any given year, than were lynched in the whole history of the US.
But don't let reality foil your white guilt.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:31pm:

I am saying that this generation seems determined to pander to minorities far more than prior generations which is ludicrous. Take gay marriage. By saying it should be allowed - we are saying every generation prior to us was wrong.

That's right. We shouldn't say anything that might offend previous generations. It might upset them.

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:10pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:40pm: Are homosexual men females in your eyes, meat? No.  They're people in my eyes. Oh so females are not even people?  Sub-human are they? Why would you even suggest such a thing? Your true colours are coming out now.

WHO's true colours?????

Don't project your failings onto me son.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:22pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:19pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:16pm: Is it ok just to burn the top left corner? That's the best bit about your flag!  :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9V96ZfyTu8[/ :) Yeah because the best thing about my country is some old twat women half way around the world who does absolutley nothing No it represents my country which fking built your country for you. Feel free to thank us anytime..... If you do, we may even give a chance when you come and play us in cricket this time around.....

Well that was a long time ago, you’re not a part of my country anymore.
And you can apologise as using our land for nuclear testing grounds and using our young soldiers as pawns in countless wars, among countless other horrible things any time you want

Nah it’s alright you still got to catch up in the ashes tally, we’ve won it like 30 more times or something right?



Quote:

As expected. Totally missed my point.

I think I know what you were saying which is along the lines of to end racism we need to stop taking it so seriously? Something like that.
That still doesnt make it ok to say the things you said in that post tho

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:25pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: What's happened to the world these days??? We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business. I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it. Now you can't even make a small comment without everyone taking offence. Now we've got people claiming "stress", "depression" off work etc. Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world?? No kidding, I miss being able to hang all those damn black people and not have some people complaining about 'human rights' and such. I read the other day that blacks kill more other blacks in any given year, than were lynched in the whole history of the US. But don't let reality foil your white guilt.

The highest cause of death of a black male aged between 18 and 26 in Southern California is -

Homicide by a black male.

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:25pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: What's happened to the world these days??? We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business. I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it. Now you can't even make a small comment without everyone taking offence. Now we've got people claiming "stress", "depression" off work etc. Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world?? No kidding, I miss being able to hang all those damn black people and not have some people complaining about 'human rights' and such. I read the other day that blacks kill more other blacks in any given year, than were lynched in the whole history of the US. But don't let reality foil your white guilt.

It's exactly the same in Australia, Honky. However, the number of deaths caused by spears is conveniently left out of the statistics.

Typical.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:31pm:

I am saying that this generation seems determined to pander to minorities far more than prior generations which is ludicrous. Take gay marriage. By saying it should be allowed - we are saying every generation prior to us was wrong.

So by using the internet are you saying generations before you were wrong for using morse code?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:36pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:31pm: I am saying that this generation seems determined to pander to minorities far more than prior generations which is ludicrous. Take gay marriage. By saying it should be allowed - we are saying every generation prior to us was wrong. So by using the internet are you saying generations before you were wrong for using morse code?

No, he's saying we should agree with everything they said or we'll insult our elders.

If we take down the "no boongs" sign we're insulting them too.

So we should leave the "no boongs" sign exactly where it is, thank you.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:36pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:31pm: I am saying that this generation seems determined to pander to minorities far more than prior generations which is ludicrous. Take gay marriage. By saying it should be allowed - we are saying every generation prior to us was wrong. So by using the internet are you saying generations before you were wrong for using morse code? No, he's saying we should agree with everything they said or we'll insult our elders. If we take down the "no boongs" sign we're insulting them too. So we should leave the "no boongs" sign exactly where it is, thank you.

Its a good thing that evolution is a much stronger force then Andrei.Hicks

So - our grandparents' generation were all racists right?

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:32pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:25pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: What's happened to the world these days??? We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business. I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it. Now you can't even make a small comment without everyone taking offence. Now we've got people claiming "stress", "depression" off work etc. Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world?? No kidding, I miss being able to hang all those damn black people and not have some people complaining about 'human rights' and such. I read the other day that blacks kill more other blacks in any given year, than were lynched in the whole history of the US. But don't let reality foil your white guilt. It's exactly the same in Australia, Honky. However, the number of deaths caused by spears is conveniently left out of the statistics. Typical.

Funny you should say that.


Quote:

There is a close association between race and the victim– offender relationship (Wolfgang 1958; Moyer 1992; Silverman & Kennedy 1993; Mouzos 1999). Australian data also support this association. Sixty-one per cent of Indigenous homicides occurred between family members (38% intimates; 23% other family), whereas only 33 per cent of non- Indigenous homicides occurred between family members. Similar findings have been published in Canada (Moyer 1992). However, a more striking finding is the number of Indigenous persons killed by a stranger. Only 12 Indigenous persons were killed by a stranger (2.7%), compared to 756 non-Indigenous persons (21.2%). This finding again emphasises the distinctiveness of Indigenous homicides. Just under half of all Indigenous homicides occur as a result of a domestic altercation (45.0% versus 23.7% for non-Indigenous homicides).

http://www.aic.gov.au/documents/C/0/B/%7BC0BBDBB3-5D3F-461F-B9D2-E4CD0AD58EC1%7Dti210.pdf

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:42pm:

So - our grandparents' generation were all racists right?

Sure, but everyone's a racist, A.H, so it's okay.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business.

No, not "everyone".


Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it.

"nobody"?  I doubt it.


Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world??

People like you.

Why would they be insulted if they can't read, Meat?

This is PC gone mad.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

Why would they be insulted if they can't read, Meat? This is PC gone mad.

http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/funny-dog-pictures-not-sure-if-trolling-or-just-stupid.jpg

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:51pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:47pm: Why would they be insulted if they can't read, Meat? This is PC gone mad. http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/funny-dog-pictures-not-sure-if-trolling-or-just-stupid.jpg

Meat, I'm only summarising another poster. Don't shoot the messenger.

Anyway, if they can read there's a big problem with the education system.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:55pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:51pm: Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:47pm: Why would they be insulted if they can't read, Meat? This is PC gone mad. http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/funny-dog-pictures-not-sure-if-trolling-or-just-stupid.jpg Meat, I'm only summarising another poster. Don't shoot the messenger. Anyway, if they can read there's a big problem with the education system.

That's why I  said "not sure".    :-/

And that's another thing. The government should not be in the business of providing education. Why should we pay to teach the blacks how to read?

chicken_lipsforme

The poem that you posted misted me up. It says it all.

To posters of the calibre of Anthrax, Meat, JaSignature and all those other Left Wing Basket Weavers who are dumping on the Australian flag, this is for you.

Because of previous generations fighting for the freedom of this Country under that wonderful flag of ours, you are in the cosy position of being able to sit there and pretty well write what you like.

None of you have the first idea of what it is to go to war and fight someone who wants to blow your head off. You hope you go for the right reasons and you fight under that beautiful Australian flag of ours.

You people are a disgrace and you shame the memory of the solders, airmen and navy personnel that fought under that very flag for your freedom.

What happened at Canberra was disgraceful, when emergency service personnel were being awarded for their honour, duty and bravery these aboriginal assholes  were pounding on the windows.

They had been fed bullsh.t by an Aboriginal Left Wing Unionist who had in turn been fed bullsh.t by Gillard's own staff. It badly backfired for Gillard.

However the subsequent events of the next day will go down as a black day for the memory of every Australian who has died fighting under that flag.

You assholes wouldn't know the first thing of what it is to fight in a war. You also have no memory of the sacrifices that men and women made fighting under that very flag so that you could enjoy the freedoms that you enjoy today.

By your comments you are the worst kind of filth, traitors and cowards, I have heard from for a long time.

If you have the guts, pick up Peter Fitzsimmons books on Kokoda and Tobruk and read about what wonderful men and women did fighting under that flag for their country.

More than you useless assholes will ever do in your entire lifetimes.

ENCORE !




Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: We used to call people spades, queers, pakis and everyone took it in good humour and went on with their business. No, not "everyone". Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: I mean the guest house in my gran's street in the UK used to say "No blacks, dogs or Irish" and nobody thought any more of it. "nobody"?  I doubt it. Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 2:17pm: Fking hell. What's gone wrong with the world?? People like you.

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

To posters of the calibre of Anthrax, Meat, JaSignature and all those other Left Wing Basket Weavers who are dumping on the Australian flag, this is for you. Because of previous generations fighting for the freedom of this Country under that wonderful flag of ours, you are in the cosy position of being able to sit there and pretty well write what you like. None of you have the first idea of what it is to go to war and fight someone who wants to blow your head off. You hope you go for the right reasons and you fight under that beautiful Australian flag of ours. You people are a disgrace and you shame the memory of the solders, airmen and navy personnel that fought under that very flag for your freedom. What happened at Canberra was disgraceful, when emergency service personnel were being awarded for their honour, duty and bravery these aboriginal assholes  were pounding on the windows. They had been fed bullsh.t by an Aboriginal Left Wing Unionist who had in turn been fed bullsh.t by Gillard's own staff. It badly backfired for Gillard. However the subsequent events of the next day will go down as a black day for the memory of every Australian who has died fighting under that flag. You assholes wouldn't know the first thing of what it is to fight in a war. You also have no memory of the sacrifices that men and women made fighting under that very flag so that you could enjoy the freedoms that you enjoy today. By your comments you are the worst kind of filth, traitors and cowards, I have heard from for a long time. If you have the guts, pick up Peter Fitzsimmons books on Kokoda and Tobruk and read about what wonderful men and women did fighting under that flag for their country. More than you useless assholes will ever do in your entire lifetimes.

You need to cool down a bit young fella.

Calling people names just makes you look rather silly and childish.

With or without the flag, Australian soldiers would have fought.  This is something you need to understand.

Your "argument" and childish rantings are completely irrational.

Have a Bex and a lay down, then come back and talk.

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:15pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 4:08pm: To posters of the calibre of Anthrax, Meat, JaSignature and all those other Left Wing Basket Weavers who are dumping on the Australian flag, this is for you. Because of previous generations fighting for the freedom of this Country under that wonderful flag of ours, you are in the cosy position of being able to sit there and pretty well write what you like. None of you have the first idea of what it is to go to war and fight someone who wants to blow your head off. You hope you go for the right reasons and you fight under that beautiful Australian flag of ours. You people are a disgrace and you shame the memory of the solders, airmen and navy personnel that fought under that very flag for your freedom. What happened at Canberra was disgraceful, when emergency service personnel were being awarded for their honour, duty and bravery these aboriginal assholes  were pounding on the windows. They had been fed bullsh.t by an Aboriginal Left Wing Unionist who had in turn been fed bullsh.t by Gillard's own staff. It badly backfired for Gillard. However the subsequent events of the next day will go down as a black day for the memory of every Australian who has died fighting under that flag. You assholes wouldn't know the first thing of what it is to fight in a war. You also have no memory of the sacrifices that men and women made fighting under that very flag so that you could enjoy the freedoms that you enjoy today. By your comments you are the worst kind of filth, traitors and cowards, I have heard from for a long time. If you have the guts, pick up Peter Fitzsimmons books on Kokoda and Tobruk and read about what wonderful men and women did fighting under that flag for their country. More than you useless assholes will ever do in your entire lifetimes. You need to cool down a bit young fella. Calling people names just makes you look rather silly and childish. With or without the flag, Australian soldiers would have fought.  This is something you need to understand. Your "argument" and childish rantings are completely irrational. Have a Bex and a lay down, then come back and talk.

Why does he need to calm down.........

Everything stated by him is correct!!!!

100% agree   :D

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

To posters of the calibre of Anthrax, Meat, JaSignature and all those other Left Wing Basket Weavers who are dumping on the Australian flag, this is for you. Because of previous generations fighting for the freedom of this Country under that wonderful flag of ours, you are in the cosy position of being able to sit there and pretty well write what you like. None of you have the first idea of what it is to go to war and fight someone who wants to blow your head off. You hope you go for the right reasons and you fight under that beautiful Australian flag of ours. You people are a disgrace and you shame the memory of the solders, airmen and navy personnel that fought under that very flag for your freedom. What happened at Canberra was disgraceful, when emergency service personnel were being awarded for their honour, duty and bravery these aboriginal assholes  were pounding on the windows. They had been fed bullsh.t by an Aboriginal Left Wing Unionist who had in turn been fed bullsh.t by Gillard's own staff. It badly backfired for Gillard. However the subsequent events of the next day will go down as a black day for the memory of every Australian who has died fighting under that flag. You assholes wouldn't know the first thing of what it is to fight in a war. You also have no memory of the sacrifices that men and women made fighting under that very flag so that you could enjoy the freedoms that you enjoy today. By your comments you are the worst kind of filth, traitors and cowards, I have heard from for a long time. If you have the guts, pick up Peter Fitzsimmons books on Kokoda and Tobruk and read about what wonderful men and women did fighting under that flag for their country. More than you useless assholes will ever do in your entire lifetimes.

You're being over dramatic.

Recognising the flag for what it is has absolutely nothing to do with true patriotism. Save your anger for the people who cheapen the flag by turning it into napkins to wipe up spills on Australia Day.

Would you have fought for Australia if it were a desert with a lone flag flying in the wind? Or would you have fought for your fellow Australians no matter what the flag looked like?

My uncle is an officer in the RAAF and my brother is in the Norwegian military. I'll be sure to ask them, but I'm pretty sure they both appreciate the flag of any country for what it is.

beware wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

Why does he need to calm down......... Everything stated by him is correct!!!! 100% agree   :D

It's the rantings or an irrational child (or an American blinded by patriotism).

No reasonable person would take anything in that post serious.

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:46pm:

beware wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 4:42pm: Why does he need to calm down......... Everything stated by him is correct!!!! 100% agree   :D It's the rantings or an irrational child (or an American blinded by patriotism). No reasonable person would take anything in that post serious.

I'd say he seems about 30 or 40 years older than you.
You'd be 23-ish?

He's trying to make sure you're legal, Uncle ;)

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

He's trying to make sure you're legal, Uncle ;)

He just won't stop, will he?

I'm flattered Honky, but no thanks (not that there's anything wrong with that).

http://stopsmartmeters.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/No-Means_No.jpg

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 4:46pm: beware wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 4:42pm: Why does he need to calm down......... Everything stated by him is correct!!!! 100% agree   :D It's the rantings or an irrational child (or an American blinded by patriotism). No reasonable person would take anything in that post serious. I'd say he seems about 30 or 40 years older than you.

Senility then.

Any older than 23 and he really should have grown out of his childish views.

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:05pm:

Any older than that and he really should have grown out of his childish views.

LOL

This, from a racist, sexist homophobe who advocates senseless violence.

::)

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:05pm:

Any older than 23 and he really should have grown out of his childish views.

So you would be about 15 then honky?
:D :'(

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:07pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:05pm: Any older than that and he really should have grown out of his childish views. LOL This, from a racist, sexist homophobe who advocates senseless violence. ::)

Why make sh|t up?  You can cast all the labels you like at me, it doesn't change the thing that matters most:

That I'm right.   :)

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:07pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:05pm: Any older than that and he really should have grown out of his childish views. LOL This, from a racist, sexist homophobe who advocates senseless violence. ::) Why make sh|t up?  You can cast all the labels you like at me, it doesn't change the thing that matters most: That I'm right.   :)

Honky thinks sexism is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one.

Honky thinks racism is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one.

Honky thinks homophobia is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one.

Honky thinks senseless violence is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one.

What is it again that you're right about?

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:11pm: Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:07pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:05pm: Any older than that and he really should have grown out of his childish views. LOL This, from a racist, sexist homophobe who advocates senseless violence. ::) Why make sh|t up?  You can cast all the labels you like at me, it doesn't change the thing that matters most: That I'm right.   :) Honky thinks sexism is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks racism is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks homophobia is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks senseless violence is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. What is it again that you're right about?

That you're an idiot. ;D ;D ;D

... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:22pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:21pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:11pm: Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:07pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:05pm: Any older than that and he really should have grown out of his childish views. LOL This, from a racist, sexist homophobe who advocates senseless violence. ::) Why make sh|t up?  You can cast all the labels you like at me, it doesn't change the thing that matters most: That I'm right.   :) Honky thinks sexism is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks racism is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks homophobia is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks senseless violence is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. What is it again that you're right about? That you're an idiot. ;D ;D ;D

You're not having a good day, are you?

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:11pm: Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:07pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:05pm: Any older than that and he really should have grown out of his childish views. LOL This, from a racist, sexist homophobe who advocates senseless violence. ::) Why make sh|t up?  You can cast all the labels you like at me, it doesn't change the thing that matters most: That I'm right.   :) Honky thinks sexism is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks racism is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks homophobia is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks senseless violence is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. What is it again that you're right about?

I think you are hysterical on some things which shows the decline in our society.
Half of those things we're not an issue in prior decades.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:25pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:21pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:11pm: Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:07pm: ... wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:05pm: Any older than that and he really should have grown out of his childish views. LOL This, from a racist, sexist homophobe who advocates senseless violence. ::) Why make sh|t up?  You can cast all the labels you like at me, it doesn't change the thing that matters most: That I'm right.   :) Honky thinks sexism is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks racism is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks homophobia is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. Honky thinks senseless violence is acceptable: hmmm, he's wrong on that one. What is it again that you're right about? Half of those things we're not an issue in prior decades.

It's nice that we've progressed, isn't it?

http://mghardie.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/losing-the-debate-shout-racist.jpg

GODDAMN RACISM EVERYWHERE

Al Sharpeton's burger visit.


Server: "Sorry sir, your Big Mac will be a couple more mins"

AS: "Don't be givin me none of the 'more mins' bullsheeeet, where my big Mac at?"

Server: "It's coming soon"

AS: "Yeah well so is christmas. I know what this is, this is goddamn racism is what it is. Cos I'm a black man, I get the sheetass service here. Oh yeah lets serve da negro the burgers last right? You a racist son? You don't like the black man?"

Server: "Sir I am as black as you are."

AS: "Oh yeah dat's right, you doing the white man's dirty work for him right? He a racist too? He asking you to feed the black man last son?"

Server: "The manager is black too Sir."

AS: "Well lookee what we have here. Got ourselves an uncle Tom is what we got. He gettin in with the white man right? He forgot his roots, he stompin on the black man is what he is!"

Server "Sir the owner of this restaurant is black and the burgers are slower because the machine is broken"

AS: "But you served the white man there is sure lookee here quick time though, ain't that right son? Serving the white man first up"

Server: "Sir he ordered a McFlurry"

AS: "Don't be givin' me none of that technical bullsheeeeeeeeeet, I know wat's going on here man. Trying to keep a brutha down is what this is. Sheeeeeeeeeeet son I marched with Dr King for this burger"

Server: "Here it is sir"

AS: "Sheeeet, this McDonalds? I thought it was KFC. Everybody knows the negros need the fried chicken. Give it to the Indians, they could do with the meal"

Courtesy - Saturday Night Live, 2009.

White flag accepted.

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:38pm:

White flag accepted.

I'm British - we don't even own white flags.
That's how you build an Empire....  ;)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:41pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:38pm: White flag accepted. I'm British - we don't even own white flags. That's how you build an Empire....  ;)

Honky has one though.  He's been waving it all day.

(he certainly doesn't have a black flag though)

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

To posters of the calibre of Anthrax, Meat, JaSignature and all those other Left Wing Basket Weavers who are dumping on the Australian flag, this is for you. Because of previous generations fighting for the freedom of this Country under that wonderful flag of ours, you are in the cosy position of being able to sit there and pretty well write what you like. None of you have the first idea of what it is to go to war and fight someone who wants to blow your head off. You hope you go for the right reasons and you fight under that beautiful Australian flag of ours. You people are a disgrace and you shame the memory of the solders, airmen and navy personnel that fought under that very flag for your freedom. What happened at Canberra was disgraceful, when emergency service personnel were being awarded for their honour, duty and bravery these aboriginal assholes  were pounding on the windows. They had been fed bullsh.t by an Aboriginal Left Wing Unionist who had in turn been fed bullsh.t by Gillard's own staff. It badly backfired for Gillard. However the subsequent events of the next day will go down as a black day for the memory of every Australian who has died fighting under that flag. You assholes wouldn't know the first thing of what it is to fight in a war. You also have no memory of the sacrifices that men and women made fighting under that very flag so that you could enjoy the freedoms that you enjoy today. By your comments you are the worst kind of filth, traitors and cowards, I have heard from for a long time. If you have the guts, pick up Peter Fitzsimmons books on Kokoda and Tobruk and read about what wonderful men and women did fighting under that flag for their country. More than you useless assholes will ever do in your entire lifetimes.

Listen, son, I've got more field days in my pay book than you've dropped turds down the bowl. We slaughtered you kraut kunts in WWII and you still won't let up. We Aussies couldn't give a dump about your mincing poofter flaggy sh!t. P!ss off back to America with your dumb viral email because we don't do that sh!t here, right? Plenty of us faught and did service to keep you kunts with your softcock flag bullsh!t out of our country. If any officer put sh!t like that on us he had to watch his arse in the latrine, you with me?

Go back to Germany and take your fake Yank email with you, there's a good boy.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:43pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 4:08pm: To posters of the calibre of Anthrax, Meat, JaSignature and all those other Left Wing Basket Weavers who are dumping on the Australian flag, this is for you. Because of previous generations fighting for the freedom of this Country under that wonderful flag of ours, you are in the cosy position of being able to sit there and pretty well write what you like. None of you have the first idea of what it is to go to war and fight someone who wants to blow your head off. You hope you go for the right reasons and you fight under that beautiful Australian flag of ours. You people are a disgrace and you shame the memory of the solders, airmen and navy personnel that fought under that very flag for your freedom. What happened at Canberra was disgraceful, when emergency service personnel were being awarded for their honour, duty and bravery these aboriginal assholes  were pounding on the windows. They had been fed bullsh.t by an Aboriginal Left Wing Unionist who had in turn been fed bullsh.t by Gillard's own staff. It badly backfired for Gillard. However the subsequent events of the next day will go down as a black day for the memory of every Australian who has died fighting under that flag. You assholes wouldn't know the first thing of what it is to fight in a war. You also have no memory of the sacrifices that men and women made fighting under that very flag so that you could enjoy the freedoms that you enjoy today. By your comments you are the worst kind of filth, traitors and cowards, I have heard from for a long time. If you have the guts, pick up Peter Fitzsimmons books on Kokoda and Tobruk and read about what wonderful men and women did fighting under that flag for their country. More than you useless assholes will ever do in your entire lifetimes. Listen, son, I've got more field days in my pay book than you've dropped turds down the bowl. We slaughtered you kraut kunts in WWII and you still won't let up. We Aussies couldn't give a dump about your mincing poofter flaggy sh!t. P!ss off back to America with your dumb viral email because we don't do that sh!t here, right? Plenty of us faught and did service to keep you kunts with your softcock flag bullsh!t out of our country. If any officer put sh!t like that on us he had to watch his arse in the latrine, you with me? Go back to Germany and take your fake Yank email with you, there's a good boy.

This is not a stand up comedy audition for Paki Buggers.  Get back to work.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7872770.stm

Yes Meat, we can't be passionate about something that we love and revere. We must bow down to the New Age Delicate Genius' like you.

I guess if I was to go down to the aboriginal tent embassy tomorrow with a bloody great aboriginal flag and burn in front of the lot of the dole bludgers that would be quite O.K. in your books too.

That right Meaty?

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 6:09pm:

I guess if I was to go down to the aboriginal tent embassy tomorrow with a bloody great aboriginal flag and burn in front of the lot of the dole bludgers that would be quite O.K. in your books too. That right Meaty?

Yep.

If you own the flag you can do what you like with it.

Another Pearl of Wisdom from the pragmatic Uncle Meat, where does he get all this wonderful knowledge. Perhaps he watches All The Star War Movies (the Force) Followed up by The Lord of The Rings in toto, where he writes down the 'sayings of Gandalf the Grey'.

Phark I'm sick of people suggesting that you have to have  fought in a war (or have an uncle who did) to be a real australian .

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 6:28pm:

Another Pearl of Wisdom from the pragmatic Uncle Meat, where does he get all this wonderful knowledge. Perhaps he watches All The Star War Movies (the Force) Followed up by The Lord of The Rings in toto, where he writes down the 'sayings of Gandalf the Grey'.

You asked a question and I gave an honest, direct, succinct answer.

What were you expecting?

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 6:28pm:

... where does he get all this wonderful knowledge.

"knowledge" ?

It was an answer to your question.

You stated/asked:

"I guess if I was to go down to the aboriginal tent embassy tomorrow with a bloody great aboriginal flag and burn in front of the lot of the dole bludgers that would be quite O.K. in your books too.

That right Meaty?"

Followed by my reply:

"Yep.

If you own the flag you can do what you like with it."

What part of that confuses you?

I can run you through it word by word if need be.

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 6:28pm:

Phark I'm sick of people suggesting that you have to have  fought in a war (or have an uncle who did) to be a real australian .

Under the flag, ... don't forget: they had to have been fighting under the flag.

::)

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 6:09pm:

Yes Meat, we can't be passionate about something that we love and revere. We must bow down to the New Age Delicate Genius' like you. I guess if I was to go down to the aboriginal tent embassy tomorrow with a bloody great aboriginal flag and burn in front of the lot of the dole bludgers that would be quite O.K. in your books too. That right Meaty?

I'd pay to see that, in fact I wish someone would.

Perhaps Alan could get the Cronulla gang fired up again.
I hear Chris Smith is good at organising buses.

On a more serious note, watching those 2 young boys being egged on to spit on the flag by the usless crap that pushed them in front of the camera's made me sick. >:(

Don't worry darkhall67 there is no danger whatsoever of you being a War Hero, your application would end up in the reject bin. You see when Australia is looking for men to fight for it, that's what it wants, MEN, not sooks like you Now stick  your dummy back in your mouth, it appears you have spat it out.

Meat Loaf could you also run me through your butcher shop, in particular I am looking for is the barrel, you know the one from which you have been pork barreling.

It's just a coloured piece of cloth.

People who go into hysterics about it being burnt really need to have their uterus removed.

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

Don't worry darkhall67 there is no danger whatsoever of you being a War Hero, your application would end up in the reject bin. You see when Australia is looking for men to fight for it, that's what it wants, MEN, not sooks like you Now stick  your dummy back in your mouth, it appears you have spat it out.

What , now you have to be a war HERO ?


Give it a few minutes and there'll be NOBODY who is a real australian.

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 7:26pm:

It's just a coloured piece of cloth. People who go into hysterics about it being burnt really need to have their uterus removed.

If I called you a complete smacking front bottom ( I am not, for the nonce), that would be just dots on a screen, so if you got upset, you'd need to have your uterus removed.

Is that what you are trying to say?

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:26pm: It's just a coloured piece of cloth. People who go into hysterics about it being burnt really need to have their uterus removed. If I called you a complete smacking front bottom ( I am not, for the nonce), that would be just dots on a screen, so if you got upset, you'd need to have your uterus removed. Is that what you are trying to say?

No but that's a VERY good analogy soren.


If you called me a "complete smacking front bottom" it WOULD be just dots on the screen.

Therefore I wouldnt be worried about it , wouldnt go into hysterics and so wouldnt need my uterus removed.




Just dots on a screen.

Just a coloured piece of cloth.

NOTHING whatsoever to go into hysterics about.


Thanks soren.

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 7:32pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Don't worry darkhall67 there is no danger whatsoever of you being a War Hero, your application would end up in the reject bin. You see when Australia is looking for men to fight for it, that's what it wants, MEN, not sooks like you Now stick  your dummy back in your mouth, it appears you have spat it out. What , now you have to be a war HERO ? Give it a few minutes and there'll be NOBODY who is a real australian.

Living or not living in JAPAN?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 7:51pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:32pm: red baron wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Don't worry darkhall67 there is no danger whatsoever of you being a War Hero, your application would end up in the reject bin. You see when Australia is looking for men to fight for it, that's what it wants, MEN, not sooks like you Now stick  your dummy back in your mouth, it appears you have spat it out. What , now you have to be a war HERO ? Give it a few minutes and there'll be NOBODY who is a real australian. Living or not living in JAPAN?

Doesn't matter WHERE you live you ignoramus. If you are australian you are australian.





YOU claim to be australian.

YOU claim to be living in america.



You aren't lying about one of those claims are you?

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 7:48pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:43pm: darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:26pm: It's just a coloured piece of cloth. People who go into hysterics about it being burnt really need to have their uterus removed. If I called you a complete smacking front bottom ( I am not, for the nonce), that would be just dots on a screen, so if you got upset, you'd need to have your uterus removed. Is that what you are trying to say? No but that's a VERY good analogy soren. If you called me a "complete smacking front bottom" it WOULD be just dots on the screen. Therefore I wouldnt be worried about it , wouldnt go into hysterics and so wouldnt need my uterus removed. Just dots on a screen. Just a coloured piece of cloth. NOTHING whatsoever to go into hysterics about. Thanks soren.

Thank you indeed. Sucked in, mate, I'm afraid.

If I were a judge in Texas and wrote 'I sentence you to death', that would be black dots on the sceen that would cost you your life.  If I burnt the Aboriginal flag, that would be a trigger for some local nose bleeds.
If Gillard or Abbott burnt the Aboriginal flag, that would be cause for scores of deaths and widespread destruction.

What is said is one thing. Who says it is even more important.

 

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:51pm: darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:32pm: red baron wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Don't worry darkhall67 there is no danger whatsoever of you being a War Hero, your application would end up in the reject bin. You see when Australia is looking for men to fight for it, that's what it wants, MEN, not sooks like you Now stick  your dummy back in your mouth, it appears you have spat it out. What , now you have to be a war HERO ? Give it a few minutes and there'll be NOBODY who is a real australian. Living or not living in JAPAN? Doesn't matter WHERE you live you ignoramus. If you are australian you are australian. YOU claim to be australian. YOU claim to be living in america. You aren't lying about one of those claims are you?

;D
Very happy with both right now.
In fact, be ready, I leave Aus in the next day to come to Japan.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:10pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:03pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:51pm: darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:32pm: red baron wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:02pm: Don't worry darkhall67 there is no danger whatsoever of you being a War Hero, your application would end up in the reject bin. You see when Australia is looking for men to fight for it, that's what it wants, MEN, not sooks like you Now stick  your dummy back in your mouth, it appears you have spat it out. What , now you have to be a war HERO ? Give it a few minutes and there'll be NOBODY who is a real australian. Living or not living in JAPAN? Doesn't matter WHERE you live you ignoramus. If you are australian you are australian. YOU claim to be australian. YOU claim to be living in america. You aren't lying about one of those claims are you? ;D Very happy with both right now. In fact, be ready, I leave Aus in the next day to come to Japan.

Fleeting visit I hope?

A week.

Japan will never be the same.

Shibuto to be precise (I have no idea where it is - I will read up on the way - somewhere in Tokyo).

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:09pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:48pm: Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:43pm: darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:26pm: It's just a coloured piece of cloth. People who go into hysterics about it being burnt really need to have their uterus removed. If I called you a complete smacking front bottom ( I am not, for the nonce), that would be just dots on a screen, so if you got upset, you'd need to have your uterus removed. Is that what you are trying to say? No but that's a VERY good analogy soren. If you called me a "complete smacking front bottom" it WOULD be just dots on the screen. Therefore I wouldnt be worried about it , wouldnt go into hysterics and so wouldnt need my uterus removed. Just dots on a screen. Just a coloured piece of cloth. NOTHING whatsoever to go into hysterics about. Thanks soren. Thank you indeed. Sucked in, mate, I'm afraid. If I were a judge in Texas and wrote 'I sentence you to death', that would be black dots on the sceen that would cost you your life.  If I burnt the Aboriginal flag, that would be a trigger for some local nose bleeds. If Gillard or Abbott burnt the Aboriginal flag, that would be cause for scores of deaths and widespread destruction. What is said is one thing. Who says it is even more important.

Why would a texas judge write "I sentence you to death " on a screen?


And if he did it STILL wouldnt mean anything to me.


If I was in his courtroom being prosecuted for a capital crime then , and only then would it concern me.





What has that got to do with the burning of some cotton fibres?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:14pm:

A week. Japan will never be the same. Shibuto to be precise (I have no idea where it is - I will read up on the way - somewhere in Tokyo).

Not Shibuya?



That's the entertainment, shopping mecca of Tokyo.


But I dont know why you'd be going there to do some volunteer relief work.

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:20pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:14pm: A week. Japan will never be the same. Shibuto to be precise (I have no idea where it is - I will read up on the way - somewhere in Tokyo). Not Shibuya? That's the entertainment, shopping mecca of Tokyo. But I dont know why you'd be going there to do some volunteer relief work.

You may be right.
Fortunately I am being picked up at the airport.

Ah no, volunteer works is all in my spare time.
This is to discuss an IT roll out in our continued aim to rule the world.

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:09pm: darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:48pm: Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:43pm: darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:26pm: It's just a coloured piece of cloth. People who go into hysterics about it being burnt really need to have their uterus removed. If I called you a complete smacking front bottom ( I am not, for the nonce), that would be just dots on a screen, so if you got upset, you'd need to have your uterus removed. Is that what you are trying to say? No but that's a VERY good analogy soren. If you called me a "complete smacking front bottom" it WOULD be just dots on the screen. Therefore I wouldnt be worried about it , wouldnt go into hysterics and so wouldnt need my uterus removed. Just dots on a screen. Just a coloured piece of cloth. NOTHING whatsoever to go into hysterics about. Thanks soren. Thank you indeed. Sucked in, mate, I'm afraid. If I were a judge in Texas and wrote 'I sentence you to death', that would be black dots on the sceen that would cost you your life.  If I burnt the Aboriginal flag, that would be a trigger for some local nose bleeds. If Gillard or Abbott burnt the Aboriginal flag, that would be cause for scores of deaths and widespread destruction. What is said is one thing. Who says it is even more important.   Why would a texas judge write "I sentence you to death " on a screen? And if he did it STILL wouldnt mean anything to me. If I was in his courtroom being prosecuted for a capital crime then , and only then would it concern me. What has that got to do with the burning of some cotton fibres?

It was an illustration of the idea that what is said is as relevant as who says it is, Karnal.  Words in context.

You really didn't understand that???

Karnal?

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:26pm:

Karnal?

Yeah. Reasoning like a smacking Paki Bugger.

:D

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 6:28pm:

Phark I'm sick of people suggesting that you have to have  fought in a war (or have an uncle who did) to be a real australian .

P!ss off back to Bavaria, you stupid upper-class twit. No one's suggesting you have to have fought in a war, I'm suggesting you stop pretending you have - in the nicest possible way.

You wouldn't have a clue what it's about, and your phoney emails don't either. Aussie diggers don't give a bugger about the flag. In WWII we fought under the Red Ensign, you stupid dopey prig.

Australians fight for their mates, but I'm not going to bother explaining it to you. That's why Anzac Day's so important to us. Only veterans know, and you don't have a clue.

The only worse thing than having to go off and fight in a war is pathetic pricks like you who crap on about the flag. You think it's all about uniforms and bullsh!t medals. You make a mockery of every Australian who's ever fought.

It's effete kunts like you who start wars and are too scared to blue on yourself. Of course you're sick of it. The very idea of a fight makes you sh!t your pants.

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 5:57pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 5:43pm: red baron wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 4:08pm: To posters of the calibre of Anthrax, Meat, JaSignature and all those other Left Wing Basket Weavers who are dumping on the Australian flag, this is for you. Because of previous generations fighting for the freedom of this Country under that wonderful flag of ours, you are in the cosy position of being able to sit there and pretty well write what you like. None of you have the first idea of what it is to go to war and fight someone who wants to blow your head off. You hope you go for the right reasons and you fight under that beautiful Australian flag of ours. You people are a disgrace and you shame the memory of the solders, airmen and navy personnel that fought under that very flag for your freedom. What happened at Canberra was disgraceful, when emergency service personnel were being awarded for their honour, duty and bravery these aboriginal assholes  were pounding on the windows. They had been fed bullsh.t by an Aboriginal Left Wing Unionist who had in turn been fed bullsh.t by Gillard's own staff. It badly backfired for Gillard. However the subsequent events of the next day will go down as a black day for the memory of every Australian who has died fighting under that flag. You assholes wouldn't know the first thing of what it is to fight in a war. You also have no memory of the sacrifices that men and women made fighting under that very flag so that you could enjoy the freedoms that you enjoy today. By your comments you are the worst kind of filth, traitors and cowards, I have heard from for a long time. If you have the guts, pick up Peter Fitzsimmons books on Kokoda and Tobruk and read about what wonderful men and women did fighting under that flag for their country. More than you useless assholes will ever do in your entire lifetimes. Listen, son, I've got more field days in my pay book than you've dropped turds down the bowl. We slaughtered you kraut kunts in WWII and you still won't let up. We Aussies couldn't give a dump about your mincing poofter flaggy sh!t. P!ss off back to America with your dumb viral email because we don't do that sh!t here, right? Plenty of us faught and did service to keep you kunts with your softcock flag bullsh!t out of our country. If any officer put sh!t like that on us he had to watch his arse in the latrine, you with me? Go back to Germany and take your fake Yank email with you, there's a good boy. This is not a stand up comedy audition for Paki Buggers.  Get back to work. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7872770.stm

Nice one, son, but people from Delhi are known as Indians. Those bastards were our comrades during the war, and they're tough little pricks. They managed to bugger of their English overlords - which is something we couldn't be bothered to do, so all power to them.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:41pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:28pm: Phark I'm sick of people suggesting that you have to have  fought in a war (or have an uncle who did) to be a real australian . P!ss off back to Bavaria, you stupid upper-class twit. No one's suggesting you have to have fought in a war, I'm suggesting you stop pretending you have - in the nicest possible way. You wouldn't have a clue what it's about, and your phoney emails don't either. Aussie diggers don't give a bugger about the flag. In WWII we fought under the Red Ensign, you stupid dopey prig. Australians fight for their mates, but I'm not going to bother explaining it to you. That's why Anzac Day's so important to us. Only veterans know, and you don't have a clue. The only worse thing than having to go off and fight in a war is pathetic pricks like you who crap on about the flag. You think it's all about uniforms and bullsh!t medals. You make a mockery of every Australian who's ever fought. It's effete kunts like you who start wars and are too scared to blue on yourself. Of course you're sick of it. The very idea of a fight makes you sh!t your pants.

And here he is, the stupid smacking Paki Bugger.

You're not like him, are you, darkhall?

:D

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:41pm: darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:28pm: Phark I'm sick of people suggesting that you have to have  fought in a war (or have an uncle who did) to be a real australian . P!ss off back to Bavaria, you stupid upper-class twit. No one's suggesting you have to have fought in a war, I'm suggesting you stop pretending you have - in the nicest possible way. You wouldn't have a clue what it's about, and your phoney emails don't either. Aussie diggers don't give a bugger about the flag. In WWII we fought under the Red Ensign, you stupid dopey prig. Australians fight for their mates, but I'm not going to bother explaining it to you. That's why Anzac Day's so important to us. Only veterans know, and you don't have a clue. The only worse thing than having to go off and fight in a war is pathetic pricks like you who crap on about the flag. You think it's all about uniforms and bullsh!t medals. You make a mockery of every Australian who's ever fought. It's effete kunts like you who start wars and are too scared to blue on yourself. Of course you're sick of it. The very idea of a fight makes you sh!t your pants. And here he is, the stupid smacking Paki Bugger. You're not like him, are you, darkhall? :D

No more than you are like Stephen Colbert soren old son.

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:41pm: darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:28pm: Phark I'm sick of people suggesting that you have to have  fought in a war (or have an uncle who did) to be a real australian . P!ss off back to Bavaria, you stupid upper-class twit. No one's suggesting you have to have fought in a war, I'm suggesting you stop pretending you have - in the nicest possible way. You wouldn't have a clue what it's about, and your phoney emails don't either. Aussie diggers don't give a bugger about the flag. In WWII we fought under the Red Ensign, you stupid dopey prig. Australians fight for their mates, but I'm not going to bother explaining it to you. That's why Anzac Day's so important to us. Only veterans know, and you don't have a clue. The only worse thing than having to go off and fight in a war is pathetic pricks like you who crap on about the flag. You think it's all about uniforms and bullsh!t medals. You make a mockery of every Australian who's ever fought. It's effete kunts like you who start wars and are too scared to blue on yourself. Of course you're sick of it. The very idea of a fight makes you sh!t your pants. And here he is, the stupid smacking Paki Bugger. You're not like him, are you, darkhall? :D

I like this bloke, he's the class smacking clown. Hey, Soren, bend over, old son, you've got a Polish salami sticking out of your arse.

We've got a real delicatessen in here tonight, eh?

And anyway , as long as it's their own flag that they bought then they can do whatever the hell they want with it.



You arent suggesting that peoples private property is really the property of the state are you?

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:54pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:41pm: darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:28pm: Phark I'm sick of people suggesting that you have to have  fought in a war (or have an uncle who did) to be a real australian . P!ss off back to Bavaria, you stupid upper-class twit. No one's suggesting you have to have fought in a war, I'm suggesting you stop pretending you have - in the nicest possible way. You wouldn't have a clue what it's about, and your phoney emails don't either. Aussie diggers don't give a bugger about the flag. In WWII we fought under the Red Ensign, you stupid dopey prig. Australians fight for their mates, but I'm not going to bother explaining it to you. That's why Anzac Day's so important to us. Only veterans know, and you don't have a clue. The only worse thing than having to go off and fight in a war is pathetic pricks like you who crap on about the flag. You think it's all about uniforms and bullsh!t medals. You make a mockery of every Australian who's ever fought. It's effete kunts like you who start wars and are too scared to blue on yourself. Of course you're sick of it. The very idea of a fight makes you sh!t your pants. And here he is, the stupid smacking Paki Bugger. You're not like him, are you, darkhall? :D No more than you are like Stephen Colbert soren old son.

Stephen Colbert? Who he?

Hey, Soren, we speakie English in this country, boy. Did they teach you that in the Delicatessen?

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:56pm:

And anyway , as long as it's their own flag that they bought then they can do whatever the hell they want with it. You arent suggesting that peoples private property is really the property of the state are you?

You put on your own private property T shirt like this and take a walk in Lakemba.  And let the state protect ya.



http://writingcompany.blogs.com/this_isnt_writing_its_typ/images/mohammed_tshirt.jpg

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:02pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:54pm: Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:51pm: Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:41pm: darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:28pm: Phark I'm sick of people suggesting that you have to have  fought in a war (or have an uncle who did) to be a real australian . P!ss off back to Bavaria, you stupid upper-class twit. No one's suggesting you have to have fought in a war, I'm suggesting you stop pretending you have - in the nicest possible way. You wouldn't have a clue what it's about, and your phoney emails don't either. Aussie diggers don't give a bugger about the flag. In WWII we fought under the Red Ensign, you stupid dopey prig. Australians fight for their mates, but I'm not going to bother explaining it to you. That's why Anzac Day's so important to us. Only veterans know, and you don't have a clue. The only worse thing than having to go off and fight in a war is pathetic pricks like you who crap on about the flag. You think it's all about uniforms and bullsh!t medals. You make a mockery of every Australian who's ever fought. It's effete kunts like you who start wars and are too scared to blue on yourself. Of course you're sick of it. The very idea of a fight makes you sh!t your pants. And here he is, the stupid smacking Paki Bugger. You're not like him, are you, darkhall? :D No more than you are like Stephen Colbert soren old son. Stephen Colbert? Who he?

Really?

I forget how backward and behind the times you are living in australia.



He follows John Stewart on the comedy channel.


You really should download The Colbert Report every day , after downloading the Daily Show.


Free on torrent sites.



You would die laughing.


I have heard reports that some of the intellectual giants in the american tea party really think he is a right wing conservative echoing their thoughts.

Which makes him even funnier.


And them even stupider.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QquTUR9nbC4

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:08pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:56pm: And anyway , as long as it's their own flag that they bought then they can do whatever the hell they want with it. You arent suggesting that peoples private property is really the property of the state are you? You put on your own private property T shirt like this and take a walk in Lakemba.  And let the state protect ya. http://writingcompany.blogs.com/this_isnt_writing_its_typ/images/mohammed_tshirt.jpg

the state SHOULD protect me.

And prosecute those who would physically attack me.




Just like the state should prosecute if the writer quoted in the opening post should  see someone burning "his" flag and "stomp" the burnee's "guts into the ground."

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:07pm:

Hey, Soren, we speakie English in this country, boy. Did they teach you that in the Delicatessen?

Learn, you stupid PB, learn. Or don't - that's more your strength.

http://wordcount-richmonde.blogspot.com.au/2011/01/private-eye-speak.html

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:

the state SHOULD protect me. And prosecute those who would physically attack me. Just like the state should prosecute if the writer quoted in the opening post should  see someone burning "his" flag and "stomp" the burnee's "guts into the ground."

No, mate, the state won't protect you. Ten blokes in steel cap boots will though.

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 9:08pm: darkhall67 wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:56pm: And anyway , as long as it's their own flag that they bought then they can do whatever the hell they want with it. You arent suggesting that peoples private property is really the property of the state are you? You put on your own private property T shirt like this and take a walk in Lakemba.  And let the state protect ya. http://writingcompany.blogs.com/this_isnt_writing_its_typ/images/mohammed_tshirt.jpg the state SHOULD protect me. And prosecute those who would physically attack me.

Yeah, good luck with that. Now you sound like Corpulent Whiney.

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:18pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 9:07pm: Hey, Soren, we speakie English in this country, boy. Did they teach you that in the Delicatessen? Learn, you stupid PB, learn. Or don't - that's more your strength. http://wordcount-richmonde.blogspot.com.au/2011/01/private-eye-speak.html

I love it. What sort of dill gets his jokes from the most boring magazine in the world?

My grandmother used to read that - hang on, she didn't even read it. Someone gave it to her for Christmas. The Punch Book of Jokes.

There wasn't a joke in the thing.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:25pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 9:18pm: Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 9:07pm: Hey, Soren, we speakie English in this country, boy. Did they teach you that in the Delicatessen? Learn, you stupid PB, learn. Or don't - that's more your strength. http://wordcount-richmonde.blogspot.com.au/2011/01/private-eye-speak.html I love it. What sort of dill gets his jokes from the most boring magazine in the world? My grandmother used to read that - hang on, she didn't even read it. Someone gave it to her for Christmas. The Punch Book of Jokes. There wasn't a joke in the thing.

Private Eye, you stupid smacking PB, not Punch.

Come on, old son, there's no need to hide the fact that you're a bit of a Punch fancier. Plenty of people own up to it these days, there's no need to be ashamed. They say you're born that way.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh? Hours of fun.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:34pm:

Come on, old son, there's no need to hide the fact that you're a Punch fancier. Plenty of people own up to it these days, there's no need to be ashamed.

You are the only smacking freckle Puncher around here, PB.

Not counting the Greens, of course. The Greens never count.

Hey, put your teeth in, you dill. I can't understand a word you're saying. Shurely shome mishtake.

I bet that one gets a laugh down the club, eh?

Come on though. Seriously, old son, let's get back to the flag. Apparently all these boongs are setting it on fire.

The only kunts I've seen burning the Australian flag are those Indian students over in India.

The funny thing is they thought we'd give a sh!t.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:41pm:

Hey, put your teeth in, you dill. I can't understand a word you're saying. Shurely shome mishtake. I bet that one gets a laugh down the club, eh?

Come on, arse bandit, shurely you are not touchy-bitchy about being a frecke Puncher?

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:49pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 9:41pm: Hey, put your teeth in, you dill. I can't understand a word you're saying. Shurely shome mishtake. I bet that one gets a laugh down the club, eh? Come on, arse bandit, shurely you are not touchy-bitchy about being a frecke Puncher?

Mate, I've had more freckle than you've had chuckles over Bristow.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 9:34pm:

Come on, old son, there's no need to hide the fact that you're a bit of a Punch fancier. Plenty of people own up to it these days, there's no need to be ashamed. They say you're born that way. Shurely shome mishtake, eh? Hours of fun.

A quick edit, eh, arse bandit? 

L'esprit de l'escalier, you stupid PB.

Better watch out, son. You're talking French.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 10:02pm:

Better watch out, son. You're talking French.

The only French you know is a bald arse-fvckee, and him only from his books. 
To you, it's all 'Oh, Calcutta'.

Now you're flirting with me, girly. Listen, I'm a married man. I can't take all this second-hand bookshop banter. It's bad for my ticker, old son.

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

Because of previous generations fighting for the freedom of this Country under that wonderful flag of ours, you are in the cosy position of being able to sit there and pretty well write what you like. None of you have the first idea of what it is to go to war and fight someone who wants to blow your head off. You hope you go for the right reasons and you fight under that beautiful Australian flag of ours.

Australia is not at war against another country right now, so how could anyone possibly learn? People today have better things to do than playing with guns.

I disagree with the idea that the flag represents soldiers dying in war. I associate that with an outdated colonial, imperialistic, macho, patriarchal culture that degrades and demeans women, promotes brawn and violence more than good deeds, charity and intelligence.

The flag represents Australia, a liberal, secular, cosmopolitan democracy, not a society of playground bully-boys.


red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

You people are a disgrace and you shame the memory of the solders, airmen and navy personnel that fought under that very flag for your freedom. What happened at Canberra was disgraceful, when emergency service personnel were being awarded for their honour, duty and bravery these aboriginal assholes  were pounding on the windows.

Those aborigines had every right to do what they did. This is their land. They deserve more respect than the Australian flag. You have no right to insult them. A flag is not a person. It doesn't require respect.


red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

You assholes wouldn't know the first thing of what it is to fight in a war. You also have no memory of the sacrifices that men and women made fighting under that very flag so that you could enjoy the freedoms that you enjoy today. By your comments you are the worst kind of filth, traitors and cowards, I have heard from for a long time. If you have the guts, pick up Peter Fitzsimmons books on Kokoda and Tobruk and read about what wonderful men and women did fighting under that flag for their country. More than you useless assholes will ever do in your entire lifetimes.

How about I put you in the boot of a car and post you to China so they can torture you in a Chinese prison? They will cut your fingers off, stick electrodes in you and electrocute you. They will dissect your organs and make you yell like William Wallace. Your arms and legs will be bent into acute angles. Needles will be punched into your eyeballs so the fluids start dripping out. They will cut off your tongue so you can't talk and do things to your groin so you can't have babies.

In peace-time, there is no point in lecturing and pontificating about war. All that judgmentalism goes nowhere. I actually find it quite arrogant and self-absorbed. Who wants to listen to someone bragging and boasting about what they did in a war when they haven't done much else for the last 50 years? Do these people make good husbands, fathers, brothers, friends? People like that have a one-track mind. They aren't good at anything else. All they think about is war, war, war. Guns, guns, guns. The trouble is, nobody else really likes them.

Take your war stories somewhere else.

When people aren't fighting a war, they put their energy somewhere else. Design an aeroplane, write a romance novel, go to the moon. Just think of something else to do. Get out of that one-track mind.

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 10:40pm:

Now you're flirting with me, girly. Listen, I'm a married man. I can't take all this second-hand bookshop banter. It's bad for my ticker, old son.

Married to a poison-filled rattle snake, as I recall.  Enough to drive you to arse banditry, to all that 'oh quel cul t'as'.

It would seem to me Mnemonic that what Australia Is starting to represent is something that is really ugly. When I look around I see a lack of respect right across the board. I see greedy individuals with souls as shallow as cracks in the footpath.

I see many who couldn't give a tinker's dam about their fellow man. At night I see a city full of young people with men and women alike staggering around on the footpaths and roads in Sydney, drunk or drugged out of their freaking minds.

Nothing like a beautiful woman in a little black dress, turned out like a panther but chucking her guts up into the  gutter.

As I have said before, Sydney reminds me very much of Gotham City. That society had gone to seed and ours is well on the way.

The Roman Empire was not defeated by foreign countries' but rotted out from within. A society without, discipline, respect and one that does not learn the lessons from history is doomed.

Should we continue going down the path led by our Communist prime Minister, we will surely end up in the same place as ancient Rome.

Incidentally, your description of Chinese Prison Camps was great. Have you ever thought about scriptwriting? I can see some talent there.

Actually, Australia is well on its way to becoming something akin to a modern Minoa, Mycenae - an Artistic Nation and I'm not talking old fashioned 'traditional' meaningless Art like the Archibald black skivvy types.

Australia will also be a Republic, but its a minority of this nation's future and priority.
We will see a change of name - no longer 'South Land' in Latin, or even 'South Asia' (Australasia) as is currently considered (for 'economical' reasons) for lack of something more appropriate.
A change or 'advancement' of the Flag.
Political Provincials rather than States.

and more... :) ;)

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Those aborigines had every right to do what they did. This is their land. They deserve more respect than the Australian flag. You have no right to insult them. A flag is not a person. It doesn't require respect.

Last I heard, respect is earn't and not handed about like a cheap Labor election promise.

Everyone has to 'vote' the White (Western) man's Politics around the world.
Everyone must 'pay' Rent for the Black Man's Land ...especially when the Blacks invented Mathematics: see 'money' does grow on trees ;)
Everyone must adhere to the Blue man's Medicine and Cooking.
Everyone to the Yellow Man's Citi(zen)s and Sport.
...the Green Man's Military and Conservation.
...the Brown Man's Writing and Fashion
...the Grey Man's Music and Science.
The Red Man's Aviation and Art.


...see how stupid your attitude is Red Baron.
You want everyone to conform to 'your' way, but you can't conform to 'their' way.
If there are 8 different RACES in the world - then obviously there are 8 RIGHT answers to the Human Condition.

Like Der Kommissar ::)

There are Aboriginals that 'enter' the White 'Political' world ...and they are treated as 'bludgers'.
White Westerners have spent 200 years here upon Aboriginal Lands and what have they achieved besides being a 3rd rate hand-me-down 'replication' of the USA (There can be only one! ;)) and the UK to a lesser extent.
???
It took a Dutch man to kick start anything new and original for this nation to participate in the world's future ...the Opera House. Since then, the Westerners have done nothing but 'get in the way' and stifle our future.

Change the Flag and 'burn' the bridges of the old one. We shall never 'go back' to being 'criminals' for the West !!! We are 'Free', not about 'Freedom'.

White Aussies still 'bludging' off the UK and USA.
...they even have to go 'mercenary' for any military action.

karnal, nice to see you getting warmed up on this subject. Nothing more I enjoy than a truly passionate person. Those limp wrists who can;take up a cause is a bit like a soggy sandwich.

In any case I've really enjoyed reading your posts. Perhaps you could write more of my war record for the others on this site, seeing that you know so much about my family history. One slight correction - I am not Bavarian but you pretty much seem to know the rest.

We can forget forget Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, YOU ARE THE REAL DEAL KARNAL, by God I bet the earth tremors when you go into battle.

Next time I would like to volunteer to be your batman. Of course you would need to put up with that annoying Australian Flag fluttering brightly over your pick handle like shoulders.

Still we will all go to bed tonight safe in the knowledge that Sergeant Major KARNAL is out there in the mist guarding our sorry arses.

Funny. Isn't it when those who want to be American become great aviation pilots ...like the Red Baron.

Denial. ;D

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Mnemonic wrote I disagree with the idea that the flag represents soldiers dying in war. I associate that with an outdated colonial, imperialistic, macho, patriarchal culture that degrades and demeans women, promotes brawn and violence more than good deeds, charity and intelligence.

So when men worked their arses off supplying women and children with food, shelter, and clothing, and when they went off to war to protect women from potentially being raped, murdered, or becoming sex slaves for the Japs they degrade and demean women?

Have some smacking decency and respect what men of the past have done for you and your ancestors.

JaSignture...O.K. I admit it...you've got the Red Baron interested. Have to admit I read your posts like they are a Dan Brown novel...are you really that cryptic?

Now let's get down to brass tacks, what's all this I wanna be an American, be gee, by, by golly.

No.. JaSignature...the Red Baron's favourite sport is lining up the illiterate stoogey boys, who come hunting or me on this post and smoking their sorry arses right between the  ross hairs.

And no JaSignature, I do  not include you in that total. Contraire my friend, you totally intrigue me.

Now boys in the barracks I have just received a communique from Sergent  Mnemonic, let's give him a rousing chorus boys!

"Kiss me goodnight Sergeant Mnemoinc put me in my little wooden bed,

We all love you Sergeant Mnenomic, Sergeant Mnemoic, be a mother to us!"

We all miss you out on the front line Sarge, thanks for your advice!

The traditional people the aborigines migrated from Indonesia in boats who knows how many years ago.

As far as I know he dingos were the traditional owners of the land before them, so perhaps we should give some land rights to those poor little  critters who were so falsely accused of eating Lindy Chamberlain's baby.

red baron wrote on Feb 17^th, 2012 at 8:29am:

I have been sent this post on the Net about the Aboriginals burning the Australian Flag. I couldn't agree more with its contents...The Red Baron I wasn't going to comment on this, but it's burning me up... now to the indigenous people of Australia , I understand how you feel. I know why the tent embassy is there, and know about your wishes for a Sovereign Treaty. I am sure the vast majority of indigenous Australians that I know will agree with what I am about to say, but If I offend you, you may as well delete me, because I am far from finished. The Australian Government has publicly acknowledged your rights to the land. They said sorry, and you accepted that apology. Tony Abbott was right. It's time to move on. Your wishes for a Sovereign Treaty will not be granted. They are all based on MONEY. You want all the rights to all the land that will make you money. The government bends over backwards, providing indigenous Australians additional welfare, funding, housing etc etc etc. This money comes from taxes, provided by working Australians, and big business, most of whom use that land you want to be paid for, so you can sit on your arses and do nothing. It's just not going to happen. We cannot change the past, and for the past, we have apologised, but we can change the future, and promote racial understanding. What a small group of indigenous Australians did on Australia day was outrageous. To burn the flag on the steps of parliament was an act of desecration, and probably the most racially offensive and unpatriotic act I have seen in this country. You have put racial understanding back 100 years in this country, and only you are responsible for the retaliation this will bring from an outraged country. Not to mention how you treated the Prime Minister, despite her party being responsible for tipping off your demonstration. While it might not mean much to some people in this country, that flag represents the very soul of who I am, and what I believe in. I wear that flag on my uniform every day. I fly that flag when I go overseas to defend this country's freedom. I have draped that flag over a mate’s coffin, and presented that flag to the mourning family of a fallen comrade. You people are not Australian, and if I see someone burning my flag, and I am close enough, I will stomp your guts into the ground. If you are not prepared to accept this country the way it is, accept our apologies for something the current generation was not responsible for, and embrace a multicultural society, one which Australia was built on 200 years ago, then pack your bags, and go find another country where you can take handouts, complain you are hard done by, and burn their flag. Because you are not welcome here while I am defending your rights, and paying taxes to support your welfare. GTF OUT.

I don't mind flag burning. What I'd like to see happen is for a bit of reciprocity (is it OK to use that word?). Let's see a bit of enthusiastic aboriginal flag burning with the usual frothing-at-the-mouth nutters on hand to spout tosh.

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the usual frothing-at-the-mouth nutters on hand to spout tosh.

You'd be an ideal candidate. Care to volunteer?

red baron wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

It would seem to me Mnemonic that what Australia Is starting to represent is something that is really ugly. When I look around I see a lack of respect right across the board. I see greedy individuals with souls as shallow as cracks in the footpath. I see many who couldn't give a tinker's dam about their fellow man. At night I see a city full of young people with men and women alike staggering around on the footpaths and roads in Sydney, drunk or drugged out of their freaking minds.

I think every generation has its own problems. This generation seeks to be more "tolerant" at the expense of being "respectful." Australia is trying to assimilate people from different cultures and the rules have had to change. I've never been drunk before and it's just not my business if someone else is drunk and behaves badly. That's someone else's life. Who am I to judge?


red baron wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

As I have said before, Sydney reminds me very much of Gotham City. That society had gone to seed and ours is well on the way. The Roman Empire was not defeated by foreign countries' but rotted out from within. A society without, discipline, respect and one that does not learn the lessons from history is doomed.

Our society has become more liberal and secular and less religious. Christianity is being forced out of schools and now we're considering changes to the definition of "marriage." The old society with its old values isn't going to come back. People don't think of the changes as a mistake, but as a move forward.

People don't like being told how to live their lives. They want to do things their own way. They don't want to be told the rules. They want to think for themselves.


red baron wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

Incidentally, your description of Chinese Prison Camps was great. Have you ever thought about scriptwriting? I can see some talent there.

Oh, I post rants all the time on the Internet. That post did get quite "angry" at the end. I was just making the point that today's people don't want to be compared to an earlier generation.


red baron wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 3:21pm:

Sergeant Major KARNAL is out there in the mist guarding our sorry arses.

Sergeant? How do you know he's not captain or colonel?


red baron wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 3:56pm:

Now boys in the barracks I have just received a communique from Sergent  Mnemonic, let's give him a rousing chorus boys! "Kiss me goodnight Sergeant Mnemoinc put me in my little wooden bed, We all love you Sergeant Mnenomic, Sergeant Mnemoic, be a mother to us!" We all miss you out on the front line Sarge, thanks for your advice!

I don't know what that's all about.............. you think I'm a woman?

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 2:50pm:

Actually, Australia is well on its way to becoming something akin to a modern Minoa, Mycenae - an Artistic Nation

I hope we become more like Athens than Sparta.


Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 3:47pm:

So when men worked their arses off supplying women and children with food, shelter, and clothing, and when they went off to war to protect women from potentially being raped, murdered, or becoming sex slaves for the Japs they degrade and demean women? Have some smacking decency and respect what men of the past have done for you and your ancestors.

You've completely missed the point. This is a different generation. Women today do not want protection. They believe they can look after themselves. There is little point in men trying to protect women today. It's futile and won't be appreciated. The incentive is gone. This is the 2010s, not the 1940s. What you are talking about is history, not the present. I can respect the past, but to advocate it as something to be practised today is pointless. You can't undo the changes of the feminist movement.

You want decency? Have you not forgotten how women have been treated in the past? They were treated as second-class citizens, as property and inferior to men. They cooked for us, cleaned for us, washed our clothes but for all that they didn't receive much appreciation. Where's the decency and respect in that? The women of the past did wonders for us and our ancestors but men got all the credit.

The Australian flag should represent all the hard work women did during the war in making our meals and doing our laundry. Everyone played their part, not just the soldiers. You can't fight a war without an economy. Who worked in the factories? Women did.

red baron wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 3:21pm:

karnal, nice to see you getting warmed up on this subject. Nothing more I enjoy than a truly passionate person. Those limp wrists who can;take up a cause is a bit like a soggy sandwich. In any case I've really enjoyed reading your posts. Perhaps you could write more of my war record for the others on this site, seeing that you know so much about my family history. One slight correction - I am not Bavarian but you pretty much seem to know the rest. We can forget forget Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, YOU ARE THE REAL DEAL KARNAL, by God I bet the earth tremors when you go into battle. Next time I would like to volunteer to be your batman. Of course you would need to put up with that annoying Australian Flag fluttering brightly over your pick handle like shoulders. Still we will all go to bed tonight safe in the knowledge that Sergeant Major KARNAL is out there in the mist guarding our sorry arses.

Now you're talking sense, son. But let me tell you something, I go into battle with a team. One of you fvcks up, the enemy gets all of you, it's that simple.

You won't remember this, but before you were born we were in a blue called Nam. We fought next to the most heavily equipped military force in history, the Yanks. And when I say equipped, I mean packing the most unbelievable force you could ever imagine. Doomsday material. Every week they came up with a new bomb or chemical or super booby trap that could take out cities, jungles, villages, you name it. I'm told you can still see the craters left in Nam out in space. It gives the astronauts something to look at, I suppose.

Now you might think these blokes would know what they were doing, right? You know, the best scientists in the world working round the clock to blow up a couple of million rice farmers in pyjamas. Not too hard, right?

Wrong. Those kunts couldn't organise a lesbian support group. We Aussies fought in regiments, 8, 9 months at a time. One in, all in, that's how we'd go. You'd go in with your regiment and you'd leave with your regiment. The only way out on your own was in a coffin.

The Yanks, in their infinite wisdom, fought one by one. I don't know, maybe it's something in the bill of rights. One bloke would join up, do his time, and get sent back home when he'd finish his 6 month tour. They were coming and going like it was the Royal Easter Show. For them, it was a smacking clambake.

Another thing, in the American army, the whites stuck with the whites and the blacks stuck with the blacks. They couldn't do anything together. They hated each other. We got on better with their blacks than they did. I went out on the tiles with a few of them myself. Good blokes. They had nothing against us, they just hated the Yanks.

The Aussies, on the other hand, were in it through thick and thin, black, white, pink, whatever. We had Abos in our unit, and they were some of the toughest men there. If you're ever in a fight, make sure you've got an Abo on side. In Nam, the Aussies were a team. For the Yanks, it was a fvking mess.

When I tell you you fight for your mates, I'm telling you what works. It's not some bullsh!t theory. Let me tell you now, if we had run the show in Nam, we would have won. Hands down. We didn't give a sh!t about God or flags or the supremacy of the white race. We fought to survive, and to survive you need to stick together.

So don't talk to me about Yanks.

Karnal, I was never in Nam, a couple of years too young, but what you've posted
pretty well coincides with what I've been told by mates who were there.

Well said...

eah - I agree with Karnal.
Even the Viet-Cong admitted the same when fighting the Aussies and the Yanks.
The Yanks were a disjointed rabble of technologically dependents. The Aussies were well disiplined and organised and were usually 'avoided' at all costs.

Still, neither should have been there in Vietnam - regardless of the 'Political' difference.
Rare animal species of this planet need protection from the Green Militaries of the world, more than what Politics needs.

Karnal you just don't get it do you? I was in the same conflict..........only up on the Thailand, Loatian border where more went on than our Government would ever admit to.  Don't lecture to me about mateship, when it comes to what goes on in War I don't need any lessons thanks mate.
Still and all, I hope you're as tough as you are making out.

If you were in Indochina, you're a mate. I'd buy you a beer any day.

Even if you have got your head half stuck up your arse. 

Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

If you were in Indochina, you're a mate. I'd buy you a beer any day. Even if you have got your head half stuck up your arse.

Karnal.

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Enquiring mind wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 10:00pm:

Another thing, in the American army, the whites stuck with the whites and the blacks stuck with the blacks. They couldn't do anything together. They hated each other. We got on better with their blacks than they did. I went out on the tiles with a few of them myself. Good blokes. They had nothing against us, they just hated the Yanks.

Historians noted the same thing when US troops were stationed in Australia during WWII. In fact, at a demonstration basketball match between black soldiers and white soldiers, it was noted that the Australian audience strongly supported the black team.

A black soldier spotted fraternising with a white Australian woman was likely to lynched by his own comrades.

Hello it is Australian Constitution calling again. Your country is in dire straits and needs you to stand up.  ::)


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Your country needs you.  8-)

"But that Gillard we'll vote for her aboriginal law reform on the document." *Here have another beer and shut up*

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Mnemonic wrote You want decency? Have you not forgotten how women have been treated in the past? They were treated as second-class citizens, as property and inferior to men. They cooked for us, cleaned for us, washed our clothes but for all that they didn't receive much appreciation. Where's the decency and respect in that? The women of the past did wonders for us and our ancestors but men got all the credit.

Let's examine this a little closer. Firstly, it exists nowhere outside feminist literature that men didn't appreciate what women did around the house. It is only the feminists who have created this narrative. Secondly, the argument of "second-class citizens" can be reversed. While men went off to work in appalling conditions, usually for 16 hour days, women cleaned, cooked, and washed. And, when men went off to war being slaughtered to protect women and children, women weren't being fired upon while they went about their daily chores. While men were being killed with impunity, women lived without the constant threat of death, disease, and appalling working conditions. Now, who is being exploited here? Let's reverse the roles whereby men stayed at home and cooked and cleaned and women went off to work and to war. Do you think feminists would have more of a case for exploitation if the roles were reversed? I'd say so.
But the reality is that it doesn't matter what roles women play, feminism always perpetuates a victim-mentality regardless of the position of women. This is how it sustains its narrative.
Most women have little time for the guilt-ridden dribbling of the past that feminists try and introject into followers. Real women get on with their lives and try the best they can to achieve their goals.


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Mnemonic wrote The Australian flag should represent all the hard work women did during the war in making our meals and doing our laundry. Everyone played their part, not just the soldiers. You can't fight a war without an economy. Who worked in the factories? Women did.

Again, nowhere outside of feminist literature does it claim that the flag only represents men. This is a feminist narrative that has no basis outside the neurotic impulses of the feminists.

Australian Constitution wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:40am:

Hello it is Australian Constitution calling again. Your country is in dire straits and needs you to stand up.  ::) <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0vmNeC1EcfM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> http://youtu.be/0vmNeC1EcfM <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/tgTcDXnDUeg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> http://youtu.be/tgTcDXnDUeg Your country needs you.  8-) "But that Gillard we'll vote for her aboriginal law reform on the document." *Here have another beer and shut up*

Better get back to the metho, son. You're parched.

Using the flag to drape yourself in a Cape like Bogans do at the Footy is very offensive to me. It violates set flag protocol. In the boy Scouts we spent years learning proper flag care and protocol as we raised a flag each week and saluted it.

So this modern thing of using it to be the flag batman or whatever is deeply offensive.

Yeah, we did that in the boy Scouts too. Dib dib dib.

In the Army we didn't give a bugger. Sure, they try it on you for six weeks in Kapuka, and then everbody quietly goes on as normal.

If the brass or a politician shows up, some poor bastard has to go and find the bloody flag and everybody wonders what they're meant to do again. Look at it? Sing it a song? Give it a kiss?

The likelihood Karnal served in the Armed Forces is about the same as me being named the next Manager of England.

No more or less believable than his stories on Matty.

If you want to wind people up fine, pretending to have served the country in a conflict though takes it too far in my opinion.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 2:36pm:

The likelihood Karnal served in the Armed Forces is about the same as me being named the next Manager of England. No more or less believable than his stories on Matty. If you want to wind people up fine, pretending to have served the country in a conflict though takes it too far in my opinion.

Good thing it's just your opinion, girly, and not the lifelong mates I fought with.

You go back to managing England, son. You're doing a top job.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 2:36pm:

The likelihood Karnal served in the Armed Forces is about the same as me being named the next Manager of England. No more or less believable than his stories on Matty. If you want to wind people up fine, pretending to have served the country in a conflict though takes it too far in my opinion.

I think I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. After all, who's got the audacity and boldness (and maybe guts) to make such a claim these days and get away with it? Feminism has turned most of us into pansies.

(We could start by asking Karnal to post his address and phone number online ..... and maybe also his credit card details. :D)

I was in the SS

barnaby joe wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:15pm:

I was in the SS

My grandfather was in the SS.

3rd SS div Totenkopf.

...and I was in Nam too....

1996... nice place. I'd like to go again.

I was one of the Somalian Warlords.

Clanky wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 2:05pm:

Using the flag to drape yourself in a Cape like Bogans do at the Footy is very offensive to me. It violates set flag protocol. In the boy Scouts we spent years learning proper flag care and protocol as we raised a flag each week and saluted it. So this modern thing of using it to be the flag batman or whatever is deeply offensive.

Hallelujah!

Finally -a flag lover who isn't a hypocrite.




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And, when men went off to war being slaughtered to protect women and children, women weren't being fired upon while they went about their daily chores.

Your women might not have been, but what about those in the war zones? I doubt Vietnamese women who were alive during the conflict in their country would agree with you. Or the women of Bosnia/Kosovo/Croatia, Chechnya, Rwanda, the DRC or all the other war torn places in the world.

Women are the silent victims of war. Women around the world are punished by rape for the actions of their men so that emasculated little worms like you can feel empowered. Men use their bodies in war to brutalise women and children. Look at Nanking and Bosnia and all the countries I mentioned above.