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Title: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 4:52am
Now we just have to find some leadership within the ALP
jokes aside ... Greens yet again supply security and honesty to Australia's parliament ... as well as policies for the old, tired and idealess parties. Greens leader Bob Brown says he would reach a fresh arrangement with a new Labor leader should Julia Gillard be toppled. But Senator Brown said he hadn't been sounded out, unlike independent MP Rob Oakeshott who revealed on Monday he had been approached to assess his views on a change of leadership. "I am not supporting a particular future leader. I have made an arrangement and signed off on it with Christine Milne with the current prime minister and treasurer in this government," Senator Brown told ABC Television on Monday night. "But yes, if there were a change we would expect that we'd come to an arrangement with whoever the Labor leader was." Following the last election, which resulted in a hung parliament, Labor negotiated with independents and Greens to form government. Senator Brown said his intention when he signed the agreement was that Ms Gillard would be the prime minister who took the country to the next election. He said Ms Gillard had faced attacks with a relentlessly sexist and misogynistic tone and he wasn't alone in perceiving that. "It's there in media commentary. I think it's there in the opposition's relentless attacks," he said. "We didn't see this with John Howard. "It's time the standards were raised just a little." http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/12827038/brown-i-ll-deal-with-whoever-is-leader/ Meanwhile Liberals have taken on Greens policy surrounding a free Dental Scheme and run with it. Labor has taking on Greens policy of pricing carbon, a green fund for renewables and now stopping punishing the unemployed and their families. Lift the dole, backbenchers urge caucus http://www.theage.com.au/national/lift-the-dole-backbenchers-urge-caucus-20120206-1r1yc.html A Vote for The Greens is a vote for progressive results. Well done Australian Greens ... well done those that voted for them. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:19am
I think commie Booby Brown is taken. Besides, he is too busy at the moment, calling Australians sexist and explaining that Howard was treated so nicely.
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:21am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 4:52am:
You make me laugh! ;D |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:46am Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:21am:
Thank You ... Laugh along with Us Greens. We are making Australian Politics better for all Australians. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:48am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:19am:
Commie Bob Brown ? ... only to the hardest of hard, hard righter, could the centre left Greens leader be considered a communist by. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:49am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:48am:
The extreme left greens. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by cods on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:50am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 4:52am:
she thinks this herself... yet I fail to see it... anyone got any examples????.. can anyone remember the last time she answered a question????????????? gotta laugh the way the greens claim credit for everything.,.the Libs dental policy was there during the Howard years,, may I suggest booby sees a vote catcher and jumps in... he has no more power over legislation than I have.he is quite happy to see jobs go overseas...or just plain shut down.. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by matty on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:52am
It doesn't matter when the leadership challenge happens, Oakeshott, Windsor and the Greens will not go to an election until the very latest date possible. They all know that they're gone, so why would they? None of them actually care about the Australian people and democracy; it's all about self-interest.
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:53am cods wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:50am:
It is a bit like the time she called people (most of Australians) that they were extremists for not liking being lied to and wanted her to retract the carbon tax. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:55am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:49am:
Equality for all, an Australian Bill of Right, Grass root democracy ... extreme left to the hardest of hard righters only. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:57am cods wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:50am:
Howard had total control of the Parliament ... heaps of cash from the mineral boom and all the benefits from Labor's micro reform. Why didn't howard act if he was serious about Australian health? Needed the cash for election bribes? |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:02am matty wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:52am:
Greens and Independents went with Labor to secure parliament for as long as possible. Because it is in the interest of all Australians to do this. meanwhile hard righters like matty wants millions wasted on an early election so if lame duck abbott wins, he can waste even more on another election months after that. This on top of the black hole they will have in their election sort of promises. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:05am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 5:55am:
One world government commie. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by matty on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:10am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:02am:
Yes, because this government has been so beneficial for the Australian people. Billions wasted on failed schemes, resulting in billions and billions of dollars in deficit, compared to the healthy surplus left by the previous Coalition government; a laughable and pathetic 'border policy', whereby illegals are coming by the dozen and getting more than the average Aussie, and a carbon tax that most people did not want, were promised we would not have, and most importantly, is not going to do a thing for the envirionment and the non-existent global warming hoax. Not to mention the backdown on the promise of no change to the marriage act, and the clearly divided and unstable Labor leadership. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:11am
A democratic one world government.
A democratic world to end communism and fascism A democratic one world government to end the capitalistic endeavour to enslave humanity via things like monsanto's ~ GM crops ~ to have a world food monopoly. progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:05am:
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:14am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:11am:
If your commie party were serious, they would give out a document so profound, a constitution if you will, that people can read and make up their own mind how water tight it is and how profound it is. Other than that, it is just commie wishful thinking. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:18am matty wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:10am:
How many billions did Liberals waste on illegal invasions? Refugees are not illegals ... if so, why are Liberals ignoring these illegals that come by plane. Global warming is not a hoax. Excessive human caused CO2 is a heat trapping greenhouse gas. Human deforestation is decreasing the process of turning heat trapping CO2 into oxygen. Meanwhile the lies of both old parties undermined the support of the majority desire for action on climate change. As these lies are revealed, majority support will return. Greens will be ready for this majority support. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:22am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:14am:
Unlike the hardest of hard right in the old parties to the right, Greens don't dictate. Greens are the architects of thinking new ways and then in conjunction with the People, Greens then move ideas forward. i.e Marriage Equality ... Very Fast Train ... Lifting Pensioners out of Poverty ... Free Dental ... Lifting the Unemployed ... Bringing our troops home from Afghanistan and so on. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:23am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:22am:
So it stays commie wishful thinking or just plain stupidity. I go the former although the latter would be part of that. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by matty on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:28am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:18am:
There are illegals coming on both boats and planes. Boats are easier to regulate, though never are acceptable. I've just stated in another thread why global warming is a hoax. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:31am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:23am:
Unlike the Hard Righters ... Greens have these up their sleeves. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1315024033 We know this is a thorn in the spineless hard righter's side. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:34am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:31am:
Wow, the greens have policies. ::) |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:34am matty wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:28am:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1328386237 |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:37am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:34am:
On line, and available to anyone interested in educating themselves. meanwhile ask a question of the hard right about their policies ... and we get : nada , nilch : NOTHING ! |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:51am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:37am:
For those of us that have actually read them, they not so much policies but more like aspirational goals and read like a teenage girl's wedding planner. Stuff that would look great in the magical fairy land imagined by brown the clown. But we all know that the greens would be more than happy to destroy the environment for political gain, they have done it before and they will do it again; for those of us who know what they did to the Mary Valley we will never forget the hypocracy. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:55am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:37am:
Are/have all those policies been costed? |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:12am BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:51am:
Mary Valley was a Labor policy. You do understand the difference? |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:29am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:12am:
Yes it was labor policy and the greens fully supported that policy, which is why they ensured a labor re-election victory by supporting labor in 14 critical marginal seats. You can't claim the greens victory in influencing labor policy at federal level without taking responsibility for influencing labor policy at a state level. Unless you're a hypocrite, well are you? (yes this is a rhetorical question, we all know the answer) |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by longweekend58 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:40am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:22am:
surely even you dont really believ that do you? The greens dont dictate policy??? we have a carbon tax that is hated by the vast majority of voters which exists soley because the Greens dictated it. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by longweekend58 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:42am
None of you seem to understand what Bob brown was REALLY saying.
he was telling labor that they can change leaders and he is fine by it. He has jettisoned Gillard as well. Oakeshott may be in love with Gillard, but no one else is. her days are numbered. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:45am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 6:37am:
Are all those policies costed? How did they fair on the green budget? Would the greens be in deficit or surplus on their policies? |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by salad in on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:47am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 4:52am:
You promised to cut the jokes but you didn't. Shame on you. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:53am BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:29am:
Greens didn't preference Labor in all seats ... including the seat where this Labor policy was centred ... so trying to make something out of this is a red herring from someone who has nothing on the Greens. Now go and do some home works and stop being so lazy |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:54am longweekend58 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:40am:
Incorrect. We have a Carbon Price because Mr No refused to negotiate with labor and so empowered Greens. The Carbon Price is Abbott's fault. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:59am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:45am:
Do your own homework and stop expecting to be spoon feed. i.e http://www.treasury.gov.au/contentitem.asp?NavId=087&ContentID=2217 |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:00am salad in wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:47am:
Oh come on ... the old parties supply so much material |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:02am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:59am:
Acrobat (PDF) Costing report – Forestry Managed Investment Schemes 5,892.30kb Costing report – Reintroduction of indexation of the fuel excise 2,982.52kb So what you are saying is the greens only have 2 policies. I thought you greens had little man syndrome, but I didn't realise it was this bad. I might have to ask again but highlight differently. Are all those policies costed? How did they fair on the green budget? Would the greens be in deficit or surplus on their policies? |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:12am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:53am:
Never said they preferenced them in all seats, i said they preferenced them in 14 CRITICAL seats, the ones that won them the election. If the greens did not fully support labor in destroying the MV then they would not have supported labor at all and labor would NOT have won the election. And federal labor would not have had to step in and over-ride state labor and the greens to save the valley. This is not a red herring it goes to the very core of greens values, which is, they will ALWAYS choose politics over the environment. You may choose to ignore that basic fact, but you and the greens don't matter to us Queenslanders when it comes to saving our environment. The greens are all talk and no action, they are irrelevant |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:53am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:02am:
Like I said ... stop be lazy and do your own home work. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:57am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:53am:
Well well well, looky what we have here. I will continue to ask this question just to remind people that the greens costing will bankrupt Australia because the little party are not up to costing their expensive looking policies. lol what a shame all it comes down to is costing and the failure of a party (as it does). |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:00am BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:12am:
Greens are not a single issue party and so decide preferences on a range of issues. Greens new the Mary Valley dam would not proceed and have been proven correct. Why throw the baby out with the bath waters when the LNP wants to unleash nukes on Queensland. Did you really expect Greens to support Nukes in Queensland via preferencing the LNP over Labor? |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Verge on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:02am
Time is ticking for Gillard.
The good news for this is with her gone, her muppet partner in crime Swan will go with her. He should never have been Treasurer in the first place. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:04am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 8:57am:
Australians should be able to have confidence in the promises made at election time by all sides of politics, Greens Leader Bob Brown said today. "The 1998 Charter of Budget Honesty provides an important transparency and accountability mechanism for Australian voters, but it fails if Joe Hockey carries through his threat that the Opposition will not submit their policies for costing," Senator Brown said in Canberra. "With the establishment of the Parliamentary Budget Office, which is part of the Greens' agreement with the Labor government, all political parties should have their policies costed. Voters deserve to know the cost of policies. Tasmania, for instance, requires political parties to submit a fiscal statement during the election period." "The Greens propose that all election commitments with a cost of more than $100 million be submitted to the PBO or Treasury for costing and we are seriously considering the proposal from former NSW Auditor-General Tony Harris that parties who refuse to have their policies costed lose their public funding." "The Greens will be considering the suggestion made by Mr Hockey that the PBO can continue to provide confidential costings during an election campaign, although any publicly released policy must have its costing made public." http://greens.org.au/content/costings-should-be-mandatory-greens Come on slacko, do your own homework ... |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:10am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:04am:
You don't 'get' irony do you? Since when has the greens EVER costed their policies and submitted them to treasury? If they had, you would not have to duck and weave this basic question now would you? But this is typical of the hypocrisy of the greens, demanding of others, standards they themselves are incapable of achieving. But we already knew that didn't we? |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:10am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:04am:
Would the greens be in deficit or surplus on their policies? |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:22am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:00am:
That would be a LIE! The greens knew nothing of the sort, no-one knew what federal labor was going to do; so stop covering up this despicable action by the greens against the people of QLD. I don't recall the LNP stating the were going to 'unleash nukes' on the state of QLD, but I have only lived here my whole life. They did want to have a discussion about nuclear power, but that got knocked on the head by the hysterical extremists. There is a BIG difference between having a conversation and 'unleashing nukes', well there is if you're an adult. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:23am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:10am:
Better off than Liberal's last election's black hole Treasury wipes $10b off Lib costings http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/treasury-wipes-10b-off-lib-costings-20100901-14nmw.html Now go do your own homework lazy |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:26am BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:22am:
like Greens new Garrett would reject the Dam ... Greens new of LNP's Queensland agenda also. Like you guys are now realising, Greens are king/queen makers, because of their all seeing and rational thinking power. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:26am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:23am:
lol and you even kept a straight face with that. I could tell by your tone. Too bad greens. It would seem you take every single miniscule opportunity to deride and educate people about your commie party, but on this instance, well, this instance you run. Hmmm must be something here, lets dig. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:33am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:26am:
My choice ... to make money listing and selling on line ... or waste time doing your homework because you are too tire and too lazy. the decision : Ka-ching |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:39am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:26am:
NO they did not, as far as the greens and state labor were concerned it was a go, everyone in QLD thought that and were waiting for the destruction to come thanks to the greens. The greens knew even less about the LNP other than what the rest of us knew. YOU are full of sh1t, trying to lie your way out of the green's grub political tactics. But if you have any actual evidence to support your lies, feel free to present it. If you can't, Ill continue to call you a liar and a greens party stooge. Here is the LNP's policy on energy, pls point out where it states they intend to 'unleash nukes' http://lnp.org.au/policies/grow-a-four-pillar-economy/resources-and-energy-strategy |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by longweekend58 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:44am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 7:54am:
that is BEYOND idiotic. what you are saying is that if libs had supported Gillard in her carbon tax then there would be no carbon tax?? even by your lamentable standards, that is stupid. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:45am BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:39am:
I am not going to tell you our sources ... get a life. Greens are spot on on issues ... and for a reason. We do our home work, and we do it properly. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:57am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:45am:
Un-friken-believable To avoid admitting the truth, you now claim that the greens have secret squirrels feeding the party secret information on the LNP and federal labor. ;D The greens super spys have uncovered the following 'information' That Federal labor was going to kybosh the Traviston dam, even before federal labor got the environmental impact statements or it became an issue for federal labor. That the LNP was going to build nuclear power plants in QLD without taking it to the people or having any policy on the matter what-so-ever. You people need to get a big dose of reality by the next election, your super spys have been giving you some dogy information so far. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:26am BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:57am:
I think this is where green_loser starts to disappear, when he starts using the educate yourself excuse. Funny how at every opportunity possible, he will let you know everything and anything, unless it needs substance of course. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:36am BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:57am:
You are just pissed because your child like act over Mary Valley Dam has been exploded. Back to your chalkboard with you and plan something a little more smarter dude. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:38am longweekend58 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 9:44am:
If Liberals had worked with Labor, Labor would not have been so relient on the Greens. It is Liberal's fault, Labor relies on Greens' support so much. if you had backed Labor, there would be no Carbon Tax now. Shame Liberals, Shame. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:41am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:26am:
Our sources have been proven correct ... mary dam was rejected by the federal environment minister. Our preferencing, achieved our goals. Greens win again. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by progressiveslol on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:43am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:38am:
It is labors fault for being so blatantly opportunistic and power hungry. It is the greens fault for being so controlling over the majority who dont want them in power or their lame policies. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:47am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:36am:
You have provided NO evidence to back up your claims (again) so this churlish behaviour is what you end up resorting to. You are a liar and stooge, everything you say is greens party spin. But I do like your use of greens party secret agents (GAYSIO) to avoid providing any evidence or substance to your argument; it's like arguing with a 5 yr old. ;D |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:49am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:43am:
Liberal's fault because they are acting like spoilt brats and disrespecting the desires of those that voted for them last time. No wonder there is such a backlash against the way Abbott is doing his job and why Gillard is preferred leader when compared next to Mr Lame Duck Abbott. Abbott is responsible for the carbon tax. Shame Abbott, Shame. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:51am BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:47am:
And you had no evidence for you claim concerning Greens supporting the Mary River Dam. and in another posters words ... NEXT |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 11:00am ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 10:51am:
What? Is english your second language I shown on countless occasions where the greens supported labor to win the QLD election through preferencing and that they did so, KNOWING that to do so would see the destruction of the Mary Valley and its endagered species. I get that you're not very bright and Im trying to accomodate that, but you have definitely shifted down a gear. ;D |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 11:14am They greens always had the power to stop the dam going ahaed but chose politics over the environment. Labor has secured Greens preferences in 14 seats for the Queensland election on March 21, boosting the government's chances of holding on to key seats. But the ALP says it's disappointed the environmental party did not give it stronger support. The state's sole Greens MP Ronan Lee, who defected from Labor last year, will receive Labor preferences but won't be preferencing Labor, Greens campaign spokesman Drew Hutton said on Thursday. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/labor-sees-red-over-greens-preferences/2009/03/12/1236447382454.html And what happend to ronan lee? That's right sacked by the voters of QLD, we don't trust scumbag liars. Nationals Leader, Warren Truss, says The Greens have the power to stop the Traveston Crossing dam by ditching any future preference deals with Labor until the dam is scrapped by Premier Anna Bligh. Greens Leader Bob Brown has described the proposed dam as "the most damaging project that's conceivable", even though it was Green preferences to Labor in the recent Queensland election that allowed Labor to form government and for the dam to proceed. "If Senator Brown is sincere in his comments, he has the political power to stop the dam now by telling Anna Bligh and Kevin Rudd that The Greens will not entertain any preference deal with the Labor Party until they axe the dam," Mr Truss said. "Anna Bligh does not care about the environment, but she and Mr Rudd do care about votes. http://qcl.farmonline.com.au/news/state/agribusiness-and-general/general/greens-have-power-to-stop-the-traveston-dam-now-truss/1624018.aspx They had a choice between the environment and politics and they were NEVER going to side with the environment, were they |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 12:03pm BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 11:00am:
All you have done is pretended that The Greens preferences reflect total support of all of Labor policies. Wrong. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 12:46pm ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 12:03pm:
So in the eyes of the greens, ensuring a party wins the election by providing preferences in 14 critically important seats is NOT support. If that's how they don't support another party then I'd like to see what happens when they do support labor. Preferences and a reach around? They could have defended the Mary Valley, they did not, regardless of all the wank words you and the greens want to use; you FAILED the Mary valley and the greens can never be trusted again. You have a pretty retarded outlook on how politics works, but it certainly explains a whole heap of your posts. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 12:52pm BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 12:46pm:
Greens achieved their aims ... this is sour grapes on your part because you have to create fiction to try and throw mud. Greens weighted up both sides on all their policies and Labor was better overall and Greens realised Mary Valley could be saved even if Labor won the election ... and as you know, Greens' reasoning was proven correct again. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by BigOl64 on Feb 7th, 2012 at 1:15pm ____ wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 12:52pm:
There's that little again, the greens did not know because both state and federal labor did not know, so stop trying to bullsh1t your way out. As far as realising that labor was a better option for QLD, it has been an unmitigated disaster, so thanks for that little gem. The next election is coming soon and there will be no labor government and the greens will be relegated back into political irrelevance; reckon your GAYSIO spies have already told you that. ;D |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by Greens_Win on Feb 7th, 2012 at 1:32pm BigOl64 wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 1:15pm:
And Queensland will go down the drain faster ... like Vic and NSW are, since the right has taken over. The other thing not mentioned by anyone, that I have noticed ... as States fall to the Hard Right, this decreases the chances of the hard right winning the next federal election. Australians don't give any party control of all parliaments. |
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Title: Re: Greens Will Work With ALP Leadership Post by juliar on Feb 8th, 2012 at 11:01am
Prime Minister Bob Green of the Communist Browns has brownout over despair at losing his power when Kevin takes over !!!!!
Uncle Bob is supporting the lying Miss Gillard by saying Miss Gillard is dumb and stupid because MISS GILLARD IS NOT A MAN !!!!! Column - Brown’s sexist defence Andrew Bolt Wednesday, February 08, 2012 at 07:02am BOB Brown is trying everything to save his meal ticket - like making himself look stupid and deceitful. Stupid is the Green leader’s claim that “quite a bit of the criticism (of Prime Minister Julia Gillard) is sexist and unfair”, particularly the “relentless” criticism from “male commentators”. But here’s the odd thing. Some of those “relentless” male critics - including me and broadcaster Alan Jones - were almost Gillard admirers not two years ago. Jones told the then-deputy PM on air: “We’ve got the wrong person running the country.” And, blush, I even confessed to “a secret passion for Julia Gillard”. Were we sexist when we praised her then, or sexist now we don’t? And here’s another odd thing: commentators such as Miranda Devine, Janet Albrechtsen and Judith Sloan are no less hard than men on the PM and on the same issues that make this criticism richly deserved - the broken promises, dirty tricks and scandals. So why are men sexist for saying the same as women? Is Brown being sexist? Then there’s Brown’s deceit. On Monday he denied what he’d said about Gillard breaking her word to end logging in parts of Tasmania. On January 11, he’d said she’d broken an “absolute commitment”. On January 13, he insisted “there is a breach of honour involved here by the Prime Minister”. On January 16, he accused Gillard of using dodgy “statistics to justify her own renege on the promise”. Yet on Monday, with Gillard in desperate danger of being toppled by the less Greens-friendly Kevin Rudd, Brown changed his story. Now he said the forest deal had been “betrayed by Forestry Tasmania”. Now it was not Gillard who had to act, but “the Premier of Tasmania, Lara Giddings, (who) needs to bring them back into control”. It seems to me from all this that Brown fabricated his angry split with Gillard to make him seem more pure and Gillard more independent. Win, win ... But now that he risks losing his pliant PM, he’s cleared Gillard of all charges. Now such accusations - which he himself once laid - are just “sexist”. Heaven spare us such frauds. http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_browns_sexist_defence/ |
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