Well - whodda thunk it? ;D


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html?ref=mostpopular Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." http://i.huffpost.com/gen/484284/thumbs/r-RACISM-IQ-large570.jpg

You can leave in a taxi or leave in a huff but where are you going to find a huff at this time of the day?

I think it sounds great but there are a few questions. Is the average IQ not increasing a few percent with each generation. So how do you explain that the general population are scared of their own shadow and flocking to ultra conservative dogma. Both major parties in this country are very conservative. Any suggestion of progressive values is attacked relentlessly by the media and business.
Then you have the contradiction where the sheep are accepting extreme insecurity in the work place in return for their little bag of gold. Personally i find the population are generally ignorant, don't understand the issues and tie everything to money in their pocket. Life has no meaning to them other wise concepts like deforestation and endanger species would be on the concern list. The truth is they don't care so long as their pocket is full. They would buy an Australian made shoe rather than feed big money to companies that exploit third world workers then pay the few executives big bonuses in the Uass. WE are dumb plain and simple.

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW.

I am a Conservative in my core beliefs.

All of this from hard work and getting nothing from a Government.

Yet all the time the Governments are trying to bring the lower people up in education and failing.

Strange eh?
Someone with conservative beliefs can succeed against the odds and yet others fail despite getting so much more.

Grey wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:

Well - whodda thunk it? ;D Quote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html?ref=mostpopular Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." http://i.huffpost.com/gen/484284/thumbs/r-RACISM-IQ-large570.jpg

And 'conservative ideologies' in that context means more like fundamental religious beliefs than conservative politics...

Would you expect anything else from the huff and puff lefty media drongos.

Dont forget to bow to the rich man Sorass

The very intelligent and the very dumb tend to be conservative and/or racists, albeit for different reasons, and it obviously mainfests in different ways.
The unremarkable, average joe schlubs just go along with the groupthink.  The bloke even touches on this in the article:


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"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."

But being from the huffington post, you'd expect them to spin it that way.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW. I am a Conservative in my core beliefs. All of this from hard work and getting nothing from a Government. Yet all the time the Governments are trying to bring the lower people up in education and failing. Strange eh? Someone with conservative beliefs can succeed against the odds and yet others fail despite getting so much more.

Your a bloody bean counter  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Now i have your 'dregs of the earth' status confirmed ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just because you have a job and can use a calculator means little on the intelligence levels. some of the most brilliant are homeless even a mind like Einstein was a clerk. Intelligence usually allows a much more holistic view of the world and deeper understanding of human nature than the bigotted poor me version you have.

......duh, wot ya says ?????

You calling me a conservative!!!?

That is an outrageous slur.      :D

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW. I am a Conservative in my core beliefs. All of this from hard work and getting nothing from a Government. Yet all the time the Governments are trying to bring the lower people up in education and failing. Strange eh? Someone with conservative beliefs can succeed against the odds and yet others fail despite getting so much more.

The research is a generalisation. It's not claiming that all conservatives have lower IQs, just that on average, it is the case.

eg: On average, men are taller than women. That doesn't mean that a woman can't be the tallest person in a room at some point.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW. I am a Conservative in my core beliefs.

Yeah, but there are degrees, and there are real degrees.

If you had a degree in dance, visual arts or accounting, I might not be as impressed as I would be if you had a degree in anthropology, history or say physics.

I used to be a conservative. No joke. I was a big proponent of the Liberal party. There were times when I supported Jeff Kennett and John Howard, and encouraged others to vote for them.

I stopped being a conservative in the late '90s. Then I learnt 2 foreign languages. I got my high school certificate via correspondence, while working up to 60 hours per week. Then I went to university got a degree graduating with high distinction honours. I am undertaking a masters degree.

By the grace of God, I certainly seemed to have gotten more educated since I stopped being a conservative.

Grey wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:

Well - whodda thunk it? ;D Quote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html?ref=mostpopular Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." http://i.huffpost.com/gen/484284/thumbs/r-RACISM-IQ-large570.jpg

So does this apply to the racists in the academe and leftists in general? Because most hold anti-white views.
But let me guess, it only applies to white racists.

I could've told you this without an official study being conducted.

falah wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 1:52pm: I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW. I am a Conservative in my core beliefs. Yeah, but there are degrees, and there are real degrees. If you had a degree in dance, visual arts or accounting, I might not be as impressed as I would be if you had a degree in anthropology, history or say physics. I used to be a conservative. No joke. I was a big proponent of the Liberal party. There were times when I supported Jeff Kennett and John Howard, and encouraged others to vote for them. I stopped being a conservative in the late '90s. Then I learnt 2 foreign languages. I got my high school certificate via correspondence, while working up to 60 hours per week. Then I went to university got a degree graduating with high distinction honours. I am undertaking a masters degree. By the grace of God, I certainly seemed to have gotten more educated since I stopped being a conservative.

You're a perfect example of where a higher education doesn't equate to intelligence.
Take your rants on violence in the Middle East. Every time it's the West's fault. Even the Egyptian soccer riots you blamed on the West. You have no conception of responsibility.
Not only that, there's something about higher education that makes one turn against their own country (all the while being funded by those you turn against). "Intelligence" in the academe seems to mean "criticize the West or Australia with impunity and side with non-Western countries and peoples." With this "amazing" insight, they then think that they're morally and intellectually superior to all those who support Australia and the West, namely, the conservatives.

In reality, it is a sign of intellectual retardation to turn against one's culture. To set about to destroy the very country and culture that feeds, clothes, and protects you is tantamount to complete idiocy. There's nothing morally or intellectually superior in supporting backward cultures that can't even feed themselves, won't allow women to be educated, won't support innovation and technology, and are in constant civil war.

falah wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 1:52pm: I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW. I am a Conservative in my core beliefs. Yeah, but there are degrees, and there are real degrees. If you had a degree in dance, visual arts or accounting, I might not be as impressed as I would be if you had a degree in anthropology, history or say physics. I used to be a conservative. No joke. I was a big proponent of the Liberal party. There were times when I supported Jeff Kennett and John Howard, and encouraged others to vote for them. I stopped being a conservative in the late '90s. Then I learnt 2 foreign languages. I got my high school certificate via correspondence, while working up to 60 hours per week. Then I went to university got a degree graduating with high distinction honours. I am undertaking a masters degree. By the grace of God, I certainly seemed to have gotten more educated since I stopped being a conservative.

Bet you aren't doing your Masters on the English language.

As for the rest of your post.

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so iq does matter now does it

dont want to open this can of worms grey :o

We should have an IQ test for voting rights.

I have always been of that belief.

thats because you are stupid

barnaby joe wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 5:38pm:

thats because you are stupid

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Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 5:08pm:

"Intelligence" in the academe seems to mean "criticize the West or Australia with impunity and side with non-Western countries and peoples." With this "amazing" insight, they then think that they're morally and intellectually superior to all those who support Australia and the West, namely, the conservatives. In reality, it is a sign of intellectual retardation to turn against one's culture. To set about to destroy the very country and culture that feeds, clothes, and protects you is tantamount to complete idiocy. There's nothing morally or intellectually superior in supporting backward cultures that can't even feed themselves, won't allow women to be educated, won't support innovation and technology, and are in constant civil war.

Actually it is your type of thinking and arrogance that leads to retardation.

Think about it; how would human beings ever advance and achieve anything unless the more intelligent people realised that something was wrong?

People like you who are pleased with "the way things are already" would have us living in a backwards monarchy/dictatorship. Let me guess, you are against universal voting too. How about universal healthcare and education? People like you were against these things that intellectuals promoted.

People like you who think that their own culture is so great remind of a dog licking its own balls - completely oblivious to the nausea it creates in the more intelligent beings in the vicinity.

...In contemporary society, it is the liberal-egalitarian view that is normative and socially conservative, since for long now that has been the official establishment view and also the safe, socially acceptable position being conserved. Racial consciousness and traditionalism is the radical, anti-establishment position....

http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/untimely-observations/scientifically-proven-right-wingers-are-dumb/


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Social conservatives were defined as people who agreed with a laundry list of statements such as "Family life suffers if mum is working full-time," and "Schools should teach children to obey authority." Attitudes toward other races were captured by measuring agreement with statements such as "I wouldn't mind working with people from other races."

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

Grey wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:

a professor of psychology

;D ;D ;D

And our resident senile senior anarchist lows along.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 5:36pm:

We should have an IQ test for voting rights. I have always been of that belief.

There's not enough votes after donkeys already for half of the remainder to be cut off.

Selectively biased, I would imagine. I have a high IQ, myself.

matty wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 11:05pm:

Selectively biased, I would imagine. I have a high IQ, myself.

True???

I was going to say I agree that your less endowed with grey matter types long for a strong simple voice, no subtleties... hence Abbotts supposed high polling. !! ::) ::)
But Matty declares he has a high IQ. There goes THAT theory. ;D

nairbe wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:47pm:

I think it sounds great but there are a few questions. Is the average IQ not increasing a few percent with each generation. So how do you explain that the general population are scared of their own shadow and flocking to ultra conservative dogma. Both major parties in this country are very conservative. Any suggestion of progressive values is attacked relentlessly by the media and business. Then you have the contradiction where the sheep are accepting extreme insecurity in the work place in return for their little bag of gold. Personally i find the population are generally ignorant, don't understand the issues and tie everything to money in their pocket. Life has no meaning to them other wise concepts like deforestation and endanger species would be on the concern list. The truth is they don't care so long as their pocket is full. They would buy an Australian made shoe rather than feed big money to companies that exploit third world workers then pay the few executives big bonuses in the Uass. WE are dumb plain and simple.

The answer must be that the lefties are very very much smarter and extremely rare nairbe  ;D

I must say that from the hilarious defensive positions on this thread the study must be truer than I imagined.


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Selectively biased, I would imagine. I have a high IQ, myself.

Thank you Matty, made my day that did.

barnaby joe wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

so iq does matter now does it dont want to open this can of worms grey :o

you of all people know that the trolling value can't be resisted sometimes Imp. And if it comes back to bite me, well I got my money's worth  ;D

I'm smart enough to say that I don't think there's any such thing as an objective assessment of intelligence.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW. I am a Conservative in my core beliefs. All of this from hard work and getting nothing from a Government. Yet all the time the Governments are trying to bring the lower people up in education and failing. Strange eh? Someone with conservative beliefs can succeed against the odds and yet others fail despite getting so much more.

Through my life I have found some of the most intelligent people with little qualification and working for low pay.

I have also seen some of the less intelligent loaded with degrees and working in senior management.

Education is much more related to finance and persistence than intelligence.

Conservative and racist beliefs linked to low IQ

I wonder if monitoring this site was a component used to justify this finding.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:13am:

Conservative and racist beliefs linked to low IQ I wonder if monitoring this site was a component used to justify this finding.

Just by you asking this question and your politics bent, you just know the answer to that would have to be a resounding NO.

Grey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 2:37am:

nairbe wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 1:47pm: I think it sounds great but there are a few questions. Is the average IQ not increasing a few percent with each generation. So how do you explain that the general population are scared of their own shadow and flocking to ultra conservative dogma. Both major parties in this country are very conservative. Any suggestion of progressive values is attacked relentlessly by the media and business. Then you have the contradiction where the sheep are accepting extreme insecurity in the work place in return for their little bag of gold. Personally i find the population are generally ignorant, don't understand the issues and tie everything to money in their pocket. Life has no meaning to them other wise concepts like deforestation and endanger species would be on the concern list. The truth is they don't care so long as their pocket is full. They would buy an Australian made shoe rather than feed big money to companies that exploit third world workers then pay the few executives big bonuses in the Uass. WE are dumb plain and simple. The answer must be that the lefties are very very much smarter and extremely rare nairbe  ;D I must say that from the hilarious defensive positions on this thread the study must be truer than I imagined. Quote: Selectively biased, I would imagine. I have a high IQ, myself. Thank you Matty, made my day that did.

Laugh all that you want, but it's the truth.

falah wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 5:45pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:08pm: "Intelligence" in the academe seems to mean "criticize the West or Australia with impunity and side with non-Western countries and peoples." With this "amazing" insight, they then think that they're morally and intellectually superior to all those who support Australia and the West, namely, the conservatives. In reality, it is a sign of intellectual retardation to turn against one's culture. To set about to destroy the very country and culture that feeds, clothes, and protects you is tantamount to complete idiocy. There's nothing morally or intellectually superior in supporting backward cultures that can't even feed themselves, won't allow women to be educated, won't support innovation and technology, and are in constant civil war. Actually it is your type of thinking and arrogance that leads to retardation. Think about it; how would human beings ever advance and achieve anything unless the more intelligent people realised that something was wrong? People like you who are pleased with "the way things are already" would have us living in a backwards monarchy/dictatorship. Let me guess, you are against universal voting too. How about universal healthcare and education? People like you were against these things that intellectuals promoted. People like you who think that their own culture is so great remind of a dog licking its own balls - completely oblivious to the nausea it creates in the more intelligent beings in the vicinity.

Oh, so now you side with Australia when it suits you.
If you believe in universal voting, universal education, and universal healthcare then why don't you hold those countries to account who do not possess such things?
You spend an awful lot of time criticizing Australia and the West and then go onto support backward cultures.

But your trendy "higher education" hasn't equipped you with the desire to extend these values to non-Western countries. Confused by the propaganda fed to you by academics, you won't dare criticize a non-Western state. Any such move is considered blasphemy against academic and trendy lefty orthodoxy.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 12:08pm:

falah wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:45pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:08pm: "Intelligence" in the academe seems to mean "criticize the West or Australia with impunity and side with non-Western countries and peoples." With this "amazing" insight, they then think that they're morally and intellectually superior to all those who support Australia and the West, namely, the conservatives. In reality, it is a sign of intellectual retardation to turn against one's culture. To set about to destroy the very country and culture that feeds, clothes, and protects you is tantamount to complete idiocy. There's nothing morally or intellectually superior in supporting backward cultures that can't even feed themselves, won't allow women to be educated, won't support innovation and technology, and are in constant civil war. Actually it is your type of thinking and arrogance that leads to retardation. Think about it; how would human beings ever advance and achieve anything unless the more intelligent people realised that something was wrong? People like you who are pleased with "the way things are already" would have us living in a backwards monarchy/dictatorship. Let me guess, you are against universal voting too. How about universal healthcare and education? People like you were against these things that intellectuals promoted. People like you who think that their own culture is so great remind of a dog licking its own balls - completely oblivious to the nausea it creates in the more intelligent beings in the vicinity. Oh, so now you side with Australia when it suits you. If you believe in universal voting, universal education, and universal healthcare then why don't you hold those countries to account who do not possess such things? You spend an awful lot of time criticizing Australia and the West and then go onto support backward cultures. But your trendy "higher education" hasn't equipped you with the desire to extend these values to non-Western countries. Confused by the propaganda fed to you by academics, you won't dare criticize a non-Western state. Any such move is considered blasphemy against academic and trendy lefty orthodoxy.

You do not side with Australia, you side with a treasonous Political Dictatorship. 8-)

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 12:08pm: falah wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:45pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:08pm: "Intelligence" in the academe seems to mean "criticize the West or Australia with impunity and side with non-Western countries and peoples." With this "amazing" insight, they then think that they're morally and intellectually superior to all those who support Australia and the West, namely, the conservatives. In reality, it is a sign of intellectual retardation to turn against one's culture. To set about to destroy the very country and culture that feeds, clothes, and protects you is tantamount to complete idiocy. There's nothing morally or intellectually superior in supporting backward cultures that can't even feed themselves, won't allow women to be educated, won't support innovation and technology, and are in constant civil war. Actually it is your type of thinking and arrogance that leads to retardation. Think about it; how would human beings ever advance and achieve anything unless the more intelligent people realised that something was wrong? People like you who are pleased with "the way things are already" would have us living in a backwards monarchy/dictatorship. Let me guess, you are against universal voting too. How about universal healthcare and education? People like you were against these things that intellectuals promoted. People like you who think that their own culture is so great remind of a dog licking its own balls - completely oblivious to the nausea it creates in the more intelligent beings in the vicinity. Oh, so now you side with Australia when it suits you. If you believe in universal voting, universal education, and universal healthcare then why don't you hold those countries to account who do not possess such things? You spend an awful lot of time criticizing Australia and the West and then go onto support backward cultures. But your trendy "higher education" hasn't equipped you with the desire to extend these values to non-Western countries. Confused by the propaganda fed to you by academics, you won't dare criticize a non-Western state. Any such move is considered blasphemy against academic and trendy lefty orthodoxy. You do not side with Australia, you side with a treasonous Political Dictatorship. 8-)

Please do not converse with me in any shape or form.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 12:25pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 12:08pm: falah wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:45pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:08pm: "Intelligence" in the academe seems to mean "criticize the West or Australia with impunity and side with non-Western countries and peoples." With this "amazing" insight, they then think that they're morally and intellectually superior to all those who support Australia and the West, namely, the conservatives. In reality, it is a sign of intellectual retardation to turn against one's culture. To set about to destroy the very country and culture that feeds, clothes, and protects you is tantamount to complete idiocy. There's nothing morally or intellectually superior in supporting backward cultures that can't even feed themselves, won't allow women to be educated, won't support innovation and technology, and are in constant civil war. Actually it is your type of thinking and arrogance that leads to retardation. Think about it; how would human beings ever advance and achieve anything unless the more intelligent people realised that something was wrong? People like you who are pleased with "the way things are already" would have us living in a backwards monarchy/dictatorship. Let me guess, you are against universal voting too. How about universal healthcare and education? People like you were against these things that intellectuals promoted. People like you who think that their own culture is so great remind of a dog licking its own balls - completely oblivious to the nausea it creates in the more intelligent beings in the vicinity. Oh, so now you side with Australia when it suits you. If you believe in universal voting, universal education, and universal healthcare then why don't you hold those countries to account who do not possess such things? You spend an awful lot of time criticizing Australia and the West and then go onto support backward cultures. But your trendy "higher education" hasn't equipped you with the desire to extend these values to non-Western countries. Confused by the propaganda fed to you by academics, you won't dare criticize a non-Western state. Any such move is considered blasphemy against academic and trendy lefty orthodoxy. You do not side with Australia, you side with a treasonous Political Dictatorship. 8-) Please do not converse with me in any shape or form.

Are you talking to me?   I will answer what ever post I like because I am sovereign and because my will is free and because there is sweet FA you can do about that, but most of all because it eats you up that there is sweet FA you can do about that - here endeth your lesson in the weakness of your fascism.   Its a free Internet - any post may be responded to - especially fascist Political lies.8-) :)

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 12:36pm: corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 12:25pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 12:08pm: falah wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:45pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:08pm: "Intelligence" in the academe seems to mean "criticize the West or Australia with impunity and side with non-Western countries and peoples." With this "amazing" insight, they then think that they're morally and intellectually superior to all those who support Australia and the West, namely, the conservatives. In reality, it is a sign of intellectual retardation to turn against one's culture. To set about to destroy the very country and culture that feeds, clothes, and protects you is tantamount to complete idiocy. There's nothing morally or intellectually superior in supporting backward cultures that can't even feed themselves, won't allow women to be educated, won't support innovation and technology, and are in constant civil war. Actually it is your type of thinking and arrogance that leads to retardation. Think about it; how would human beings ever advance and achieve anything unless the more intelligent people realised that something was wrong? People like you who are pleased with "the way things are already" would have us living in a backwards monarchy/dictatorship. Let me guess, you are against universal voting too. How about universal healthcare and education? People like you were against these things that intellectuals promoted. People like you who think that their own culture is so great remind of a dog licking its own balls - completely oblivious to the nausea it creates in the more intelligent beings in the vicinity. Oh, so now you side with Australia when it suits you. If you believe in universal voting, universal education, and universal healthcare then why don't you hold those countries to account who do not possess such things? You spend an awful lot of time criticizing Australia and the West and then go onto support backward cultures. But your trendy "higher education" hasn't equipped you with the desire to extend these values to non-Western countries. Confused by the propaganda fed to you by academics, you won't dare criticize a non-Western state. Any such move is considered blasphemy against academic and trendy lefty orthodoxy. You do not side with Australia, you side with a treasonous Political Dictatorship. 8-) Please do not converse with me in any shape or form. Are you talking to me?   I will answer what ever post I like because I am sovereign and because my will is free and because there is sweet FA you can do about that, but most of all because it eats you up that there is sweet FA you can do about that - here endeth your lesson in the weakness of your fascism.   Its a free Internet - any post may be responded to - especially fascist Political lies.8-) :)

I won't converse with you on any topic because I consider you to be so far beneath me that to even acknowledge your existence is an insult to my intelligence.

Goodbye.

Soren wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 7:45pm:

Grey wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 12:44pm: a professor of psychology ;D ;D ;D And our resident senile senior anarchist lows along.

You must be some kind of juvenile Soren, that explains much.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 1:47pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 12:44pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 12:36pm: corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 12:25pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 12:08pm: falah wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:45pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:08pm: "Intelligence" in the academe seems to mean "criticize the West or Australia with impunity and side with non-Western countries and peoples." With this "amazing" insight, they then think that they're morally and intellectually superior to all those who support Australia and the West, namely, the conservatives. In reality, it is a sign of intellectual retardation to turn against one's culture. To set about to destroy the very country and culture that feeds, clothes, and protects you is tantamount to complete idiocy. There's nothing morally or intellectually superior in supporting backward cultures that can't even feed themselves, won't allow women to be educated, won't support innovation and technology, and are in constant civil war. Actually it is your type of thinking and arrogance that leads to retardation. Think about it; how would human beings ever advance and achieve anything unless the more intelligent people realised that something was wrong? People like you who are pleased with "the way things are already" would have us living in a backwards monarchy/dictatorship. Let me guess, you are against universal voting too. How about universal healthcare and education? People like you were against these things that intellectuals promoted. People like you who think that their own culture is so great remind of a dog licking its own balls - completely oblivious to the nausea it creates in the more intelligent beings in the vicinity. Oh, so now you side with Australia when it suits you. If you believe in universal voting, universal education, and universal healthcare then why don't you hold those countries to account who do not possess such things? You spend an awful lot of time criticizing Australia and the West and then go onto support backward cultures. But your trendy "higher education" hasn't equipped you with the desire to extend these values to non-Western countries. Confused by the propaganda fed to you by academics, you won't dare criticize a non-Western state. Any such move is considered blasphemy against academic and trendy lefty orthodoxy. You do not side with Australia, you side with a treasonous Political Dictatorship. 8-) Please do not converse with me in any shape or form. Are you talking to me?   I will answer what ever post I like because I am sovereign and because my will is free and because there is sweet FA you can do about that, but most of all because it eats you up that there is sweet FA you can do about that - here endeth your lesson in the weakness of your fascism.   Its a free Internet - any post may be responded to - especially fascist Political lies.8-) :) I won't converse with you on any topic because I consider you to be so far beneath me that to even acknowledge your existence is an insult to my intelligence. Goodbye.

Nobody asked you to - never the less you will learn to live with my comments freely expressed on any topic or leave. :)

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

Grey wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 12:44pm: Well - whodda thunk it? ;D Quote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html?ref=mostpopular Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." http://i.huffpost.com/gen/484284/thumbs/r-RACISM-IQ-large570.jpg So does this apply to the racists in the academe and leftists in general? Because most hold anti-white views. But let me guess, it only applies to white racists.

I cant understand this, :)

As far as the East stretches from the West so is my mind Sovereign and my Will free - high above all principalities and powers and inviolate - my free will stands and cannot be ruled by any demonic stronghold or false god written or made by mortal man.  So free am I in mind that the mighty tremble at my words which shake their illusion of power.  8-)

Hey CW 

you are aware of the Dental scheme for disabled pensioners aren't you. ?

Altho it has run for nearly two years, and will end on   July,  when the Gillard govt proposes to create a whole new scheme for dental care for the disadvantaged, in particular, you can still get a referral from your GP which will  enable you to see the dentist of your choice (long as the dentist participates) and get up :) to $2000 worth of work done if necessary.

I mention it because I only found out about it by chance. There is absolutely NOTHING  about it on Centrelink pages..   Many many people, who would have been entitled, were not advised of this entitlement.  Sneaky to say the least.

matty wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 11:05pm:

Selectively biased, I would imagine. I have a high IQ, myself.

That goes without saying, Matty. You've never had to work too hard for it either. That's the mark of superior talent, you know.

I don't understand that Juliar prostitute saying she's got a high IQ. She said she was studying psychology and asked for my score, can you believe it?

The nerve. As if I'd give that bitch anything. We all know the woman's as dull as dishwater. All she can do is cut and paste Miranda Divine columns.  Would you hire her to be your psychologist? I wouldn't hire her to change my step-mother's colostomy bag.

I hope you never take up psychology, Matty. One thing at a time, I say. Let's stick to politics. An IQ like yours is worth its weight in gold, you know.

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Emma wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Hey CW  you are aware of the Dental scheme for disabled pensioners aren't you. ? Altho it has run for nearly two years, and will end on   July,  when the Gillard govt proposes to create a whole new scheme for dental care for the disadvantaged, in particular, you can still get a referral from your GP which will  enable you to see the dentist of your choice (long as the dentist participates) and get up :) to $2000 worth of work done if necessary. I mention it because I only found out about it by chance. There is absolutely NOTHING  about it on Centrelink pages..   Many many people, who would have been entitled, were not advised of this entitlement.  Sneaky to say the least.

I am on a care plan, I was under the assumption I would be able to get access to Dental this month, as my funding was used up by my dentist long ago - but now it seems I must wait till April, this comes from my own Dr.  Thanks very much for the info - I am not sure whether its applicable to me already on a care plan.  Dental coverage would be wonderful. :)

I believe you have been misinformed. If it is the scheme I mentioned, it operates on a calender yr. Not sure where April comes in. If its your dob , and its this scheme he is wrong.

I got onto it in only October last year, and had used up all the dough by December, which was the end of yr 1. My dentist said to get a new referral early in the New Year, cos the scheme is still running, and altho I only started in Oct, Dec was the end of that yr, so I am entitled to get another.

MIND YOU, I had to argue and persuade the dr's lackey, who told me I'm not entitled, maybe in March>>>> my dob.  NO I said, its a 'calender yr'.  She rang medicare and eventually accepted that I was correct. Pity for the people she'd already knocked back. I went in and told the docs they should make an effort to contact these people, as they have been unfairly denied something to which they are entitled.,  and NOT EVRYONE is as 'forward' as I am.

As far as I know - you should be eligible. I 'm not aware of any other benefits re dental.
SO  don't take NO for an answer. This care plan you are on is LIKELY this scheme.
And from Jan 1 the next round starts. Check with medicare, and be persistent.!!~!

Cheers :)

We'll see what we can do when Mr Abbott gets in, CW. I know the dentists lobby has been making favourable noises about Matty's preselection, so watch this space. Let's all stick together on this. If we can get our own man into parliament the possibilities will be endless.

Remember, CW: one hand washes the other. We won't forget our friends, you know. We Libs believe in helping people lower than ourselves.

Big Donger wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

We'll see what we can do when Mr Abbott gets in, CW. I know the dentists lobby has been making favourable noises about Matty's preselection, so watch this space. Let's all stick together on this. If we can get our own man into parliament the possibilities will be endless. Remember, CW: one hand washes the other. We won't forget our friends, you know. We Libs believe in helping people lower than ourselves.

What a crock of crap Karnal.!!!
Abbott will cut anything LIKE this scheme. The current govt is the only govt in my living memory which has EVER done this. The LIBS???  YOU MUST BE JOKING.!!!~  FOOL>

nairbe wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:47pm:

I think it sounds great but there are a few questions. Is the average IQ not increasing a few percent with each generation. So how do you explain that the general population are scared of their own shadow and flocking to ultra conservative dogma. Both major parties in this country are very conservative. Any suggestion of progressive values is attacked relentlessly by the media and business. Then you have the contradiction where the sheep are accepting extreme insecurity in the work place in return for their little bag of gold. Personally i find the population are generally ignorant, don't understand the issues and tie everything to money in their pocket. Life has no meaning to them other wise concepts like deforestation and endanger species would be on the concern list. The truth is they don't care so long as their pocket is full. They would buy an Australian made shoe rather than feed big money to companies that exploit third world workers then pay the few executives big bonuses in the Uass. WE are dumb plain and simple.

dON'T iq TESTS DECREASE IN ACCURACY WITH OVER-USAGE!??! ::)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

I have 2 degrees, a Masters and am a qualified member of the ICAEW. I am a Conservative in my core beliefs. All of this from hard work and getting nothing from a Government. Yet all the time the Governments are trying to bring the lower people up in education and failing. Strange eh? Someone with conservative beliefs can succeed against the odds and yet others fail despite getting so much more.

lAST TIME i CHECKED YOU WERE ONE PERSON!

  :o :o :o :o

Could I be wrong about this?  ;D :D :D :D ;D

Emma wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

I believe you have been misinformed. If it is the scheme I mentioned, it operates on a calender yr. Not sure where April comes in. If its your dob , and its this scheme he is wrong. I got onto it in only October last year, and had used up all the dough by December, which was the end of yr 1. My dentist said to get a new referral early in the New Year, cos the scheme is still running, and altho I only started in Oct, Dec was the end of that yr, so I am entitled to get another. MIND YOU, I had to argue and persuade the dr's lackey, who told me I'm not entitled, maybe in March>>>> my dob.  NO I said, its a 'calender yr'.  She rang medicare and eventually accepted that I was correct. Pity for the people she'd already knocked back. I went in and told the docs they should make an effort to contact these people, as they have been unfairly denied something to which they are entitled.,  and NOT EVRYONE is as 'forward' as I am. As far as I know - you should be eligible. I 'm not aware of any other benefits re dental. SO  don't take NO for an answer. This care plan you are on is LIKELY this scheme. And from Jan 1 the next round starts. Check with medicare, and be persistent.!!~! Cheers :)

Thanks, inquire further again and see. 8-) 

... wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

The very intelligent and the very dumb tend to be conservative and/or racists, albeit for different reasons, and it obviously mainfests in different ways. The unremarkable, average joe schlubs just go along with the groupthink.  The bloke even touches on this in the article: Quote: "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." But being from the huffington post, you'd expect them to spin it that way.

You're saying being a so called 'conservative' isn't groupthink!??!

Let me get this right: the fashion victims aren't victims of groupthink!??!

  :D :D :D

Just so lol!!

The killers of innocents foreign peple by the 100s of thousands arent' victims of groupthink!??!

Wow, just, like, FMagainandagainandagain!

Impotent Nuclear Weaponry really drives people to say some insane things alright.....  :o :o :o :o :o  :'( :'( :'( :'(  :-*

Grey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 2:37am:

nairbe wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 1:47pm: I think it sounds great but there are a few questions. Is the average IQ not increasing a few percent with each generation. So how do you explain that the general population are scared of their own shadow and flocking to ultra conservative dogma. Both major parties in this country are very conservative. Any suggestion of progressive values is attacked relentlessly by the media and business. Then you have the contradiction where the sheep are accepting extreme insecurity in the work place in return for their little bag of gold. Personally i find the population are generally ignorant, don't understand the issues and tie everything to money in their pocket. Life has no meaning to them other wise concepts like deforestation and endanger species would be on the concern list. The truth is they don't care so long as their pocket is full. They would buy an Australian made shoe rather than feed big money to companies that exploit third world workers then pay the few executives big bonuses in the Uass. WE are dumb plain and simple. The answer must be that the lefties are very very much smarter and extremely rare nairbe  ;D I must say that from the hilarious defensive positions on this thread the study must be truer than I imagined. Quote: Selectively biased, I would imagine. I have a high IQ, myself. Thank you Matty, made my day that did.

I would have hoped that you would well know that the studies on IQ also do not accept them as a guide to intelligence but rather an adaptability to problem solving. IQ has been a hotly debated topic as an intelligence scale amongst science, education and phycology for a while now.

As for Lefties Grey, i was not referring to them. On the whole the left movement in this country cares for little except there own pockets and is why is said both major parties are conservative. Neither demonstrates genuine concern for anything except selfish values.

or you could say Nairbe.... never underestimate the power of a large group to create stupidity!!

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Nairbe - As for Lefties Grey, i was not referring to them. On the whole the left movement in this country cares for little except there own pockets and is why is said both major parties are conservative. Neither demonstrates genuine concern for anything except selfish values.

Couldn't agree more nairbe, why i suggested they were a very rare breed.

As for IQ/Intelligence tests, I've always believed that there are different kinds of intelligence. I didn't start this thread with any intention other than trolling a bait, best days fishing i've had in ages :-)

Nuclear Weapons are impotentcy writ large btw!!

:o :o

sECRETLY, EVERY LOSER WANTS TO BE A REPUBLICAN REPTILE!!

  :D :D :D :D  :o  :'(

------>> "...it's evolution baby!"

Emma wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 6:31pm:

or you could say Nairbe.... never underestimate the power of a large group to create stupidity!!

OOO! I like that one, mind if i use it?


BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 7:08pm:

Nuclear Weapons are impotentcy writ large btw!! :o :o sECRETLY, EVERY LOSER WANTS TO BE A REPUBLICAN REPTILE!!   :D :D :D :D  :o  :'( ------>> "...it's evolution baby!"

But who are the losers, that is really a subjective adjective.

be my guest. 8-)

You will find that a low IQ is brought about by a low gene-pool combination and cultural isolationism.

A nation that has a good mix of immigration coming in, especially both 'sperm & eggs' to put it simply would achieve a gene pool combination of 10+ number (think Combination lock) dials. Unlike a nation that just has people going out rather than coming in which borders of 3 and under combination. This results also in a lot of inbreeding and deformaties.
I sometimes see this in small Aussie towns that are isolated.

Some nations or races like CHINA (did I say that?) think they will 'outbreed' other races by just pumping people out into other parts of the world. What they don't realise is that there gene-pool combination is 'thinning' out or 'weakening' and thus poor health and mentality ensures. Luckily China is going through a 'cultural' change with Economics becoming more of a positive factor than Militarisation, but not much has 'changed' than this.
Simply 'copying' something is not 'cultural' advancement or intelligence. You know what I mean, those little 'child prodigies' that just 'copy' playing the violin of a master composer, etc. Train the monkey ::)
We all know what happens to 'Replicants' in BladeRunner for lack of originality and imagination now don't we. ;)

So a nation that can achieve an equal share genetic makeup of each of the x8 distinctive races and achieve an equal empowerment of many human qualities besides just militarisation of political dominance, is certainly a nation that will achieve the highest health standards, IQ's, longevity, beauty and many other wonderful qualities.
Some nations attain high standards of 'living' qualities and wealth, but at the cost of a low birth rate like Australia and Scandinavian nations.

not bad actually - a fair enough statement...Jasign

Its just - with India and China approaching parity - likely in the near future, it's more likely our lot will be the ones diluted.  ;D
I think that bit is backtofront - unless we oz folk also need to have a cultural change. 
BUT  - isn't that bleedin' obvious. ??? :-?

China is collapsing, demographically speaking.
Japan already has.
The Persians are going down the gurgler, too. As is most of Europe.

aye!!

seems we are caught in the web, whether we want to be or not......truly it seems we ALL have been born to live in "interesting times."!
Definitely a practically global time of change is heading our way like a..tsunami??  inland or other wise. ;D :D

- what a totally sh.tful way the media described last years flooding on the Toow Range and Lockyer Valley ..an inland tsunami ...... jeez that annoyed me.!!!
>:( >:(

loonies

Ah yes, China is collapsing - demographically speaking. Now that's positive thinking, old boy.

How about the Scandinavian countries?

Isn't Scandinavia in Europe, you thick, grinning paki bugger?

barnaby joe wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:53pm:

loonies

Now you should be a psychologist, Imperium. I've read your profiles. Accurate!

As long as you can forget any semblance of human observation and essentialize everything into a narrow band of dull, empirical test scores, you should be fine.

Juliar studies psychology. I'm sure she'll be a great success too.

As long as the gold-digging bitch can find a superannuated 70 year old to mindfvck and fiddle out of his will.

When you think about it, it's amazing she hasn't hooked up with Soren.

Soren wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:16pm:

Isn't Scandinavia in Europe, you thick, grinning paki bugger?

Is it? Thanks, old boy. I knew it was somewhere with a declining population and a love of all things Turkish.

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Soren wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:16pm:

Isn't Scandinavia in Europe, you thick, grinning paki bugger?

Technically Scandinavians are Eskimo's, quite different to Europe would have thought. 8-)

Watching Fox News might lower your IQ as well:

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Resorting to posting pics huh. Your Masters degree must have been analytically rigorous to the extreme.  ::)

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 12:04am:

Resorting to posting pics huh. Your Masters degree must have been analytically rigorous to the extreme.  ::)

Sometimes a picture just says so much more

http://www.miketron.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/hanson_migrant.jpg

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Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 5:08pm:

In reality, it is a sign of intellectual retardation to turn against one's culture. To set about to destroy the very country and culture that feeds, clothes, and protects you is tantamount to complete idiocy. There's nothing morally or intellectually superior in supporting backward cultures that can't even feed themselves, won't allow women to be educated, won't support innovation and technology, and are in constant civil war.

Protocol #16 – Brainwashing

1.  In order to bring about the destruction of all collective forces except ours, we shall disable the first stage of collectivism – the universities, by reeducating them in a new direction.

Their officials and professors will be prepared for their business by detailed secret programs of action from which they will not be allowed to diverge, not by one iota.

They will be appointed with particular precaution, and will be placed so as to be wholly dependent upon the government.

2.  We shall exclude State Law from the course of instruction and also any material that deals with the political mechanism.  These subjects will be taught to a few dozen persons chosen for their preeminent capacities from among those of the initiated.

The universities must no longer graduate weak individuals concocting plans for a constitution.  Like a comedy or a tragedy, those people are concerning themselves with questions of policy in which not even their own fathers ever had any power of thought.

3.  When large number of persons attempt to deal with issues of administrative regulation, this creates utopian dreamers and bad subjects.  You can see this for yourselves from the example of the universal education of the Goyim in this direction.

We must introduce all those principles into their education which have so brilliantly broken down their harmony.  But when we are in power we shall remove every kind of disturbing subject from the course of education and shall turn the youth into obedient children of authority, who love the ruler as being the support and hope for peace and quiet.


We Shall Rewrite History

4.  Classicism, as with all other forms of study of ancient history, has more bad than good examples.  We shall replace these with the study of the program of the future.

We shall erase from the memory of men, all facts of previous centuries which are undesirable to us, and leave only those which show all the errors of the governments of the Goyim.

The study of practical life; of the obligations of maintaining order; of the relations of people to one another; of avoiding bad and selfish examples which spread the infection of evil; and similar questions of an educative nature: we will bring these to the forefront of the teaching program.  This program will be drawn up as a separate plan for each career path or position in life, and in this way it generalizes the teaching.  This aspect of the program has special importance...

5.  Each career path or position in life must be trained within strict limits corresponding to its aim, and how it fits in with day-to-day life.

The occasional genius has always managed, and always will manage, to slip through into other positions in life.  But it is a big mistake to let this rare occasional genius into ranks which are foreign to them.  They are untalented people who take over the jobs belonging to those ranks granted by birth or employment.  You know yourselves in what manner all this has ended for the Goyim who allowed this crying absurdity.

6.  In order that the ruler may be firmly seated in the hearts and minds of his subjects, it is necessary, for the duration of his rein, to instruct the whole nation in the schools and on the market places about the purpose of his actions and all his beneficent initiatives.

7.  We shall abolish every kind of freedom of instruction.  Learners of all ages have the right to assemble together with their parents in the educational establishments, as if it were a club.  During these assemblies, and on holidays, teachers will read what will pass as free lectures on social and relationship issues, of the laws of examples, and of the philosophy behind new theories not yet declared to the world.

These theories will be raised by us to the stage of a dogma of faith, like as a traditional stage towards our faith.  Now that I have completed this explanation of our program of action in the present and the future, I will read you the principles of these theories.

8.  Basically, we know from many centuries of experience that people live and are guided by ideas, and that these ideas are absorbed by people only with the aid of education that has equal success for all ages of growth.  But of course by various methods, we shall swallow up and confiscate the last scintilla of independence of thought.  We have been directing all thoughts towards subjects and ideas that are useful to us, and have been doing so for a long time.

The system of bridling thought is already at work in the so-called system of teaching by object lessons; the purpose of which is to turn the Goyim into unthinking submissive brutes waiting for things to be presented before their eyes in order to form an idea of them...

In France, one of our best agents, Bourgeois, has already made public a new program of teaching by object lessons.

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 10:20pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 9:16pm: Isn't Scandinavia in Europe, you thick, grinning paki bugger? Technically Scandinavians are Eskimo's, quite different to Europe would have thought. 8-)

True. We need to look after this endangered species - such a resilient little culture.

We know they invented the sled, but I wonder if they had th superior technology of the stick.

Quote:

Watching Fox News might lower your IQ as well:

Ahh the legendary fox news.  Do you have anything relevant to australia?

Listening to the lies of the Politicians, Economists and Corporates class is certain to lower your IQ - especially is done through trusting, unquestioning faith in their words. 8-)

Jan wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 3:47am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 5:08pm: In reality, it is a sign of intellectual retardation to turn against one's culture. To set about to destroy the very country and culture that feeds, clothes, and protects you is tantamount to complete idiocy. There's nothing morally or intellectually superior in supporting backward cultures that can't even feed themselves, won't allow women to be educated, won't support innovation and technology, and are in constant civil war. Protocol #16 – Brainwashing 1.  In order to bring about the destruction of all collective forces except ours, we shall disable the first stage of collectivism – the universities, by reeducating them in a new direction. Their officials and professors will be prepared for their business by detailed secret programs of action from which they will not be allowed to diverge, not by one iota. They will be appointed with particular precaution, and will be placed so as to be wholly dependent upon the government. 2.  We shall exclude State Law from the course of instruction and also any material that deals with the political mechanism.  These subjects will be taught to a few dozen persons chosen for their preeminent capacities from among those of the initiated. The universities must no longer graduate weak individuals concocting plans for a constitution.  Like a comedy or a tragedy, those people are concerning themselves with questions of policy in which not even their own fathers ever had any power of thought. 3.  When large number of persons attempt to deal with issues of administrative regulation, this creates utopian dreamers and bad subjects.  You can see this for yourselves from the example of the universal education of the Goyim in this direction. We must introduce all those principles into their education which have so brilliantly broken down their harmony.  But when we are in power we shall remove every kind of disturbing subject from the course of education and shall turn the youth into obedient children of authority, who love the ruler as being the support and hope for peace and quiet. We Shall Rewrite History 4.  Classicism, as with all other forms of study of ancient history, has more bad than good examples.  We shall replace these with the study of the program of the future. We shall erase from the memory of men, all facts of previous centuries which are undesirable to us, and leave only those which show all the errors of the governments of the Goyim. The study of practical life; of the obligations of maintaining order; of the relations of people to one another; of avoiding bad and selfish examples which spread the infection of evil; and similar questions of an educative nature: we will bring these to the forefront of the teaching program.  This program will be drawn up as a separate plan for each career path or position in life, and in this way it generalizes the teaching.  This aspect of the program has special importance... 5.  Each career path or position in life must be trained within strict limits corresponding to its aim, and how it fits in with day-to-day life. The occasional genius has always managed, and always will manage, to slip through into other positions in life.  But it is a big mistake to let this rare occasional genius into ranks which are foreign to them.  They are untalented people who take over the jobs belonging to those ranks granted by birth or employment.  You know yourselves in what manner all this has ended for the Goyim who allowed this crying absurdity. 6.  In order that the ruler may be firmly seated in the hearts and minds of his subjects, it is necessary, for the duration of his rein, to instruct the whole nation in the schools and on the market places about the purpose of his actions and all his beneficent initiatives. 7.  We shall abolish every kind of freedom of instruction.  Learners of all ages have the right to assemble together with their parents in the educational establishments, as if it were a club.  During these assemblies, and on holidays, teachers will read what will pass as free lectures on social and relationship issues, of the laws of examples, and of the philosophy behind new theories not yet declared to the world. These theories will be raised by us to the stage of a dogma of faith, like as a traditional stage towards our faith.  Now that I have completed this explanation of our program of action in the present and the future, I will read you the principles of these theories. 8.  Basically, we know from many centuries of experience that people live and are guided by ideas, and that these ideas are absorbed by people only with the aid of education that has equal success for all ages of growth.  But of course by various methods, we shall swallow up and confiscate the last scintilla of independence of thought.  We have been directing all thoughts towards subjects and ideas that are useful to us, and have been doing so for a long time. The system of bridling thought is already at work in the so-called system of teaching by object lessons; the purpose of which is to turn the Goyim into unthinking submissive brutes waiting for things to be presented before their eyes in order to form an idea of them... In France, one of our best agents, Bourgeois, has already made public a new program of teaching by object lessons.

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sleep012.gif

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 9:58am:

Quote: Watching Fox News might lower your IQ as well: Ahh the legendary fox news.  Do you have anything relevant to australia?

Honky - do you have anything relevant to Amerika?

Big Donger wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:16am:

... wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 9:58am: Quote: Watching Fox News might lower your IQ as well: Ahh the legendary fox news.  Do you have anything relevant to australia? Honky - do you have anything relevant to Amerika?

Do you have anything relevant to....anything?

Conservative and racist beliefs linked to low IQ

I think it is actually more related to personality types.

A types tend to be go getters with a lower level of empathy.  In many cases not particularly smart achievers.

They are equally likely to end up in politics Managment or prison.

... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:19am:

Big Donger wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 11:16am: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 9:58am: Quote: Watching Fox News might lower your IQ as well: Ahh the legendary fox news.  Do you have anything relevant to australia? Honky - do you have anything relevant to Amerika? Do you have anything relevant to....anything?

I don't think so. Most of what I write here is made up.

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

Listening to the lies of the Politicians, Economists and Corporates class is certain to lower your IQ - especially is done through trusting, unquestioning faith in their words. 8-)

Does that mean you don't believe in the bible :question

Prevention of RACISM is better than the cure!

The so called 'conservatives' have lost their heads with hatred!

TRUE STORY!

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  :-[  :o

Austalia: The Enemy Within.

Very soon, the world will go through a major 'shift' and I don't mean to speak like New Age like It_Is_the_Light.

I mean, Australia, unlike America - has a strong sense of 'self hatred', especially its past ...a shame if you like.
Coincidently, the World does need to look within that 'Dark Abyss' that resides within us all regarding the consequences of our actions.
This is where Australia comes into it.
We a nation of isolation and small population with an incredible high Suicide rate.

Like a Pandora's box, Australia is just waiting to 'spring' upon the world ...but the World does not want to 'open' Australia - for that would unleash our past onto their future.
Think about it: An over-populated World, suddenly 'polaxed' in polarity by Australia 'opening up'.
...especially concerning America (Cain v Abel). Eventually America won't be able to help itself in taking a 'swipe' at Australia and it will be its undoing.

So Australia's population suddenly booms and the world's suddenly drops. Take into the ratio of 1/8 and you can suddenly see the effect of the situation. = over-population cured!

After America, comes Australia and the Occidental that witnesses the 'transaction' (similar to what the Middle-East took in between Asia and Africa before off-loading to Europe ...long ago) before off-loading to South America ...finally.
By that time (a few hundred years away), we will have finished all the exam papers so to speak and either 'failed' or 'passed' the test as a Species ON BEHALF OF THIS PLANET.

Don't be afraid of being outnumbered by another race. Chances are you probably live x3 times as long anyway.
Oh, then there's those that live in a safe place, others who have 'power', others who have wealth, others ...
etc, etc.

Your choice.
By the way. I was born a month late, so although I was raised in a ****hole like Mt Druitt, I tend to be quite 'enlightened' naturally. So as long as I don't get 'paid' so to speak for all this advice - I'm 'free' to upset the applecart. ;)

I'll hazard a go -

I prophesy wiz my wee eyeze

zee endz are nie ;) 

Jan wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 5:38pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 10:11am: Listening to the lies of the Politicians, Economists and Corporates class is certain to lower your IQ - especially is done through trusting, unquestioning faith in their words. 8-) Does that mean you don't believe in the bible :question

Go away Jan -  not happy Jan .
same for any religious..... like Falah .  Do you two see yourselves as similar beings???
:-?

Not 'prophesy' my dear.

Nostrodamus could never predict the 'future' for the Southern Hemisphere - why?
Because although we are 'Down Under', we will always be a 'Day Ahead' ;)

"He will rise up from the Great South and 'usher' in the Golden Age with a twist of his tongue." Nostradamus.

"Oh well, its a poo job - but someone has got to do it ;)"
Jasignature (the toilet cleaner)

omg

barnaby joe wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 7:56pm:

omg

I think we're on the same page  ;D

Big Donger wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:36am:

... wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 11:19am: Big Donger wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 11:16am: ... wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 9:58am: Quote: Watching Fox News might lower your IQ as well: Ahh the legendary fox news.  Do you have anything relevant to australia? Honky - do you have anything relevant to Amerika? Do you have anything relevant to....anything? I don't think so. Most of what I write here is made up.

I don't think you are that creative. You actually do have all that sh!t in your head, as so much personal credo. But being a Paki arse bandit resentment studies scholar, you dress it all up in 'as if I made it up' just in case people pull you up on it.

i'd actually to see a lot of karnal's sources myself. for real.

barnaby joe wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 8:43pm:

i'd actually to see a lot of karnal's sources myself. for real.

edit it, will ya.

thats too much work :D

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Not 'prophesy' my dear. Nostrodamus could never predict the 'future' for the Southern Hemisphere - why? Because although we are 'Down Under', we will always be a 'Day Ahead' ;) "He will rise up from the Great South and 'usher' in the Golden Age with a twist of his tongue." Nostradamus. "Oh well, its a poo job - but someone has got to do it ;)" Jasignature (the toilet cleaner)

Wadyamean not prophesy?.
I differ.
I meant prophesy .. as in' I predict that...'     not prophecy  as in already forseen.

As for Nostrodamus  :P :P :P

barnaby joe wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 8:43pm:

i'd actually to see a lot of karnal's sources myself. for real.

here you are

www.brad.ac.uk/ssis/social-work/

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 10:20pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 9:16pm: Isn't Scandinavia in Europe, you thick, grinning paki bugger? Technically Scandinavians are Eskimo's, quite different to Europe would have thought. 8-)

You think of 25 even stupider things before breakfast, so I'll let this idiocy pass unremarked...

falah wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:00am:

Sometimes a picture just says so much more

I know what you mean, numpty.

http://religiousfreaks.com/UserFiles/Image/muhammed.caricatures/Muhammed_Rasmus_Sand_Hoyer_Jyllands-Posten_Cartoons.jpg

Soren wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 9:12pm:

barnaby joe wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 8:43pm: i'd actually to see a lot of karnal's sources myself. for real. here you are www.brad.ac.uk/ssis/social-work/

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;D

you know Soren?  i really don't care about Karnal's sources, altho I did check the link - most unusual for me -
why?  ..because , as is apparent from the link. ...I never thought the posts were spontaneous.
Nice to be confirmed in my assessment.


Personally, I think posts should be a spontaneous response to stimuli, provided by other posters.  Not endless tracts from various authorites from the Bible to the Guardian, from the Channel 10 News to the BBC ::) ::)  YAWN.

SEE I Actually value this Forum as a means of personal expression,  NOT the parrot-like repetition of the prevailing mainstream dichotomy.
Seems pretty hard to escape tho. :(

well grey my Int net Exp displayed it OK.
Did you lose a reply???
Happens to me often.
Intermitent connection problems. ;D

Oh did you see Hockey the pollie jester on Q + A.  I saw him, but I didn't listen beyond a word or two.
Now there is a pristine example of the lower IQ's (type) becoming popular with the lower IQ's.
The man is a joke, as are his offerings.

In direct contrast, we have Mr Bob Brown, who has rightly pointed out to us all the atrocious treatment handed to our PM, sexist, boorish, moronic.

ONYA BOB.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

jalane is low IQ

Grey wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 9:28pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 9:12pm: barnaby joe wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 8:43pm: i'd actually to see a lot of karnal's sources myself. for real. here you are www.brad.ac.uk/ssis/social-work/ Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage        What you can try:     Diagnose Connection Problems       More information ;D

That's Bradford Poly for you, School of Resentment Studies.

did you see Bob Brown later"?  on Lateline???

I don't have any problems with what he said at all/
a man of our times.!!!

  Wish more of you wads on this forum could 'see' what the man is saying.  BUT sadly it becomes more and more obvious that you all JUST DON'T HAVE THE BRAINS to see what is staring you in the face.

Typical.!!!

Where r the keys??  where r my ??  BLIND JISM   = mindless dickwads  = ave. OZ O+>.

Did u understand that ?? :) ;)

hey!!
calling all prongwads !!!

Whats the matter??  too hard for your intellects??  Your HIGH IQ's.?

Raspberries!!!
splutthwattterrtestteh!! [smiley=engel017.gif]

eh?

Grey wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 9:28pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 9:12pm: barnaby joe wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 8:43pm: i'd actually to see a lot of karnal's sources myself. for real. here you are www.brad.ac.uk/ssis/social-work/ Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage        What you can try:     Diagnose Connection Problems       More information ;D

Rats. Foiled again And I would have got away with it if it wasn't for that artful supersleuth, Grey.

Emma wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

Jan wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 5:38pm: corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 10:11am: Listening to the lies of the Politicians, Economists and Corporates class is certain to lower your IQ - especially is done through trusting, unquestioning faith in their words. 8-) Does that mean you don't believe in the bible :question Go away Jan -  not happy Jan . same for any religious..... like Falah .  Do you two see yourselves as similar beings??? :-?

???? Whatever gave you the idea I am religious? That has to be the biggest joke on this board.

You obviously don't read the posts of the people you reply to... Read post #54 on page 4 of the Topic, Falah: jews are 'parasites'. Feb. 2nd.

Please don't put me in with the likes of Yadda ... now there's a fanatical religious nut if ever there was one.

The ONLY reason I stand up for Muslims is because they are the ones being umercifully attacked by people who support (Australia's) enemies ... Zionists and our Zionist Government.

Don't go along with that statement? I can prove it to you if you like, or debate it if you prefer.

The only reason I replied to you as I did was because I got the idea from your earlier posts that you were anti government and I was making a joke.

Seems those who make jokes about others here, are the ones who can't take them when directed at themselves.

http://hartalmsm.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/hamas-cartoon2.jpg

There was a minor kerfuffle a few weeks ago when the Daily Mail website overtook the New York Times to become the most popular news site in the world. Liberals can whine all they like, but that's a formidable achievement, especially considering it's not really a conventional news site at all, more a big online bin full of pictures of reality stars, with the occasional Stephen Glover column lobbed in to lighten the mood.

The print edition of the paper is edited by Paul Dacre, who is regularly praised by media types for knowing what his customers want, and then selling it to them. This is an extraordinary skill that puts him on the same rarefied level as, say, anyone who works in a shoe shop. Or a bike shop. Or any kind of shop. Or in any absolutely any kind of business whatsoever. Whatever you think about Dacre's politics, you can't deny he's got a job to do, and he does it. Like a peg. Or a ladle. Or even a knee. Dacre is perhaps Britain's foremost knee.

Curiously, the online version of the Mail has become a hit by doing the reverse of what Dacre is commended for doing. It succeeds by remorselessly delivering industrial quantities of precisely the opposite of what a traditional Mail reader would presumably want to read: frothy stories about carefree young women enjoying themselves. Kim Kardashian or Kelly Brook "pour their curves" into a selection of tight dresses and waddle before the lens and absolutely nobody on the planet gives a toss apart from Mail Online, which is doomed to host the images, and Mail Online's readers, who flock in their thousands to leave messages claiming to be not in the slightest bit interested in the story they're reading and commenting on.

Now Mail Online has gone one step further by running a story that not only insults its own readers, but cruelly invites them to underline the insult by making fools of themselves. In what has to be a deliberate act of "trolling", last Friday it carried a story headlined "Rightwingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says study". In terms of enraging your core readership, this is the equivalent of Nuts magazine suddenly claiming only gay men masturbate to Hollyoaks babes.

The Mail's report went on to detail the results of a study carried out by a group of Canadian academics, which appears to show some correlation between low childhood intelligence and rightwing politics. It also claimed that stupid people hold rightwing views in order to feel "safe". Other items they hold in order to feel safe include clubs, rocks and dustbin lids. But those are easy to let go of. Political beliefs get stuck to your hands. And the only way to remove them is to hold your brain under the hot tap and scrub vigorously for several decades.

As you might expect, many Mail Online readers didn't take kindly to a report that strived to paint them as simplistic, terrified dimwits. Many leapt from the tyres they were swinging in to furrow their brows and howl in anger. Others, tragically, began tapping rudimentary responses into the comments box. Which is where the tragi-fun really began.

"Stupidest study of them all," raged a reader called Beth. "So were the testers conservative for being so thick or were they left and using a non study to make themselves look better?" Hmmm. There's no easy answer to that. Because it doesn't make sense.

"I seem to remember 'academics' once upon a time stating that the world was flat and the Sun orbitted the Earth," scoffed Ted, who has presumably been keeping his personal brand of scepticism alive since the middle ages.

"Sounds like a BBC study, type of thing they would waste the Licence fee on, load of Cods wallop," claimed Terry from Leicester, thereby managing to ignore the findings while simultaneously attacking public service broadcasting for something it hadn't done. For his next trick, Terry will learn to whistle and poo at the same time.

Not all the respondents were stupid. Some were merely deluded. Someone calling themselves "Hillside" from Sydney claimed: "I have an IQ over 200, have six degrees and diplomas and am 'right-wing', as are others I know at this higher level of intelligence." His IQ score is particularly impressive considering the maximum possible score on Mensa's preferred IQ test is 161.

Whatever the numbers: intellectual dick-measuring isn't to everyone's tastes anyway. Simply by highlighting his own intelligence "Hillside" alienated several of his commentbox brethren.

"If there is one person I can not stand and that is a snob who thinks they are intelligent because if they were intelligent and educated they wouldn't be snobs," argued Liz from London. Once you've clambered over the broken grammar, deliberately placed at the start of the sentence like a rudimentary barricade of piled-up chairs, there's a tragic conundrum at work here. She claims intellectual snootiness is ugly, which it is, but unfortunately she says it in such a stupid way it's impossible for anyone smarter than a steak-and-ale pie not to look down on her. Thus, for Liz, the crushing cycle of snobbery continues.

On and on the comments went, turning a rather stark write-up of a daft-sounding study into a sublime piece of live online performance art. A chimps' tea party of the damned. The Mail has long been a master at trolling lefties; now it's mischievously turned on its own readers, and the results could only be funnier if the website came with free plastic lawn furniture for them to lob at the screen. You couldn't make it up.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/05/daily-mail-calls-rightwingers-stupid




The always funny Charlie Brooker.   Talking about a british newspaper and website but could easily be applied to australia.

Emma wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 11:12pm:

did you see Bob Brown later"?  on Lateline??? I don't have any problems with what he said at all/ a man of our times.!!!   Wish more of you wads on this forum could 'see' what the man is saying.  BUT sadly it becomes more and more obvious that you all JUST DON'T HAVE THE BRAINS to see what is staring you in the face. Typical.!!! Where r the keys??  where r my ??  BLIND JISM   = mindless dickwads  = ave. OZ O+>. Did u understand that ?? :) ;)

No, not a word.

Jan wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:21am:

Emma wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 7:22pm: Jan wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 5:38pm: corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 10:11am: Listening to the lies of the Politicians, Economists and Corporates class is certain to lower your IQ - especially is done through trusting, unquestioning faith in their words. 8-) Does that mean you don't believe in the bible :question Go away Jan -  not happy Jan . same for any religious..... like Falah .  Do you two see yourselves as similar beings??? :-? ???? Whatever gave you the idea I am religious? That has to be the biggest joke on this board. You obviously don't read the posts of the people you reply to... Read post #54 on page 4 of the Topic, Falah: jews are 'parasites'. Feb. 2nd. Please don't put me in with the likes of Yadda ... now there's a fanatical religious nut if ever there was one. The ONLY reason I stand up for Muslims is because they are the ones being umercifully attacked by people who support (Australia's) enemies ... Zionists and our Zionist Government. Don't go along with that statement? I can prove it to you if you like, or debate it if you prefer. The only reason I replied to you as I did was because I got the idea from your earlier posts that you were anti government and I was making a joke. Seems those who make jokes about others here, are the ones who can't take them when directed at themselves.

Sincerest apologies Jan.....its just the thought of another zealot on here was too much.

Seriously I read  the posts,  altho not long screeds of religious tracks, because , you are quite right,  nuts like Yadda annoy me.
Anti-govt.?  Yep I'd say that. :)

Afraid your humor is too subtle for me. I'm much more literal, consequently, I often don't GET jokes.  As for devilish Zionists..... they are our enemies you say? 
Why?  and why do you say we have a Zionist governmemt.
:o ::)

Emma wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:18pm:

Why?  and why do you say we have a Zionist governmemt. :o ::)

Gillard and Israel are like peas in a pod
http://antonyloewenstein.com/2010/06/29/gillard-and-israel-are-like-peas-in-a-pod/



PM's Jewish move queried
http://www.theage.com.au/national/pms-jewish-move-queried-20120124-1qfot.html



What is Gillard’s Israel visit all about?
http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/09/what-is-gillards-israel-visit-all-about/


Gillard stands by partner over Israel job link
http://www.smh.com.au/national/gillard-stands-by-partner-over-israel-job-link-20100629-zjcx.html



Prime Minister addresses Australia-Israel Chamber of Commerce
http://www.jwire.com.au/news/prime-minister-addresses-australia-israel-chamber-of-commerce/22340

As I understand it,  'references' are provided as footnotes in support of the writer's premise.

So be a good fella Falah , and put it in your own words.

I'm not going to follow your headlines/links...  if you have  a personal view, I'm happy to read it.

Lets face it, there's nothing easier than what you tried (below)... but it doesn't cut it with me. :P

... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:35am:

Emma wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 11:12pm: did you see Bob Brown later"?  on Lateline??? I don't have any problems with what he said at all/ a man of our times.!!!   Wish more of you wads on this forum could 'see' what the man is saying.  BUT sadly it becomes more and more obvious that you all JUST DON'T HAVE THE BRAINS to see what is staring you in the face. Typical.!!! Where r the keys??  where r my ??  BLIND JISM   = mindless dickwads  = ave. OZ O+>. Did u understand that ?? :) ;) No, not a word.

Your loss.

Emma wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 3:18pm:

Sincerest apologies Jan.....its just the thought of another zealot on here was too much. Afraid your humor is too subtle for me. I'm much more literal, consequently, I often don't GET jokes.  As for devilish Zionists..... they are our enemies you say?  Why?  and why do you say we have a Zionist governmemt. :o ::)

No Probs, apologies accepted  [smiley=wink.gif]

I'm sorry to say this, but if you don't get subtle jokes, there wouldn't be much you do get in here, because a lot of the jokes in here are often said as if they are facts and said against the very people (like myself, Abu and Falah) who in fact are telling the truth.

The ones who are against the truth are pro Government and for a very good (to them) reason. They are PRO Globalisation and make jokes to suppress anything that links them to a zionist take-over.

I would suggest you bone up on Zionism, what it is, what it really means and what it has to do with our government post haste, because it's been with us since we were just a colony and has grown with this country and shaped our attitudes and our laws.

Zionism is behind every choice our government makes and globalism is the 'final solution'.

It's a very long story and unfortunately it encompasses the topic you seem to have a problem with, ie 'religion', and nothing can be proven without the facts to go along with any subject.

To study something in total to arrive at 'truth', it's necessary to read and understand all sides and from all people, even those you find distasteful and disagree with.

You asked why I say we have a Zionist Government? Well unfortunately some of the answers are in Falah's links, and they are the sort of facts I too would have to submit to explain.

I am desperately looking for an article I have lost (from my computer) from a uni newspaper, of a university profile (for votes for a position on a Uni campus) that Julia Gillard wrote herself, in it she admits to being a lesbian.

Now I have nothing against gays or lesbian, to each his own, as long as they don't interfer in my life, or impinge on my rights. BUT (a big but) She claims she has a 'straight' relationship with Tim Mathieson who has been outed by many past aquaintences. So how straight is Julia? How truthful is she?

To make matters worse Tim works for the founder of the Australia Israel  forum, and Julia supports the Israeli Chanber of Commerce, not to mention the "Zionist federation of Australia".

I've counted approx. 150 Jewish/Zionist organizations in Australia. Everything from womens issues, Addiction care, to Funerals, and everything in between ... Their organizations are listed under the entire Alphabet.

There's a list and their purpose here: http://www.jewishaustralia.com/community.htm#national

I suggest you take a glance at this list Starting with the NATIONAL ORGANISATIONS.

Our Indigenous Australians don't have this much 'care' and support. So why are the zionists so prominent??????

Oh Yeah they even have a Lesbian group: JLGV - Jewish Lesbian Group of Victoria: email jlgvic@hotmail.com

And I would be prepared to put money on the fact that there are a few members here that are members of one or two of these zionist organizations and that's the reason they are so viral in their attacks on Abu and Falah and any of their supporters.

Emma wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 10:57pm:

As I understand it,  'references' are provided as footnotes in support of the writer's premise. So be a good fella Falah , and put it in your own words. I'm not going to follow your headlines/links...  if you have  a personal view, I'm happy to read it. Lets face it, there's nothing easier than what you tried (below)... but it doesn't cut it with me. :P

Try these then Jalane. They are the links Falah posted but in a more readable format. Just click on the hyperlink and your there.

Gillard and Israel are like peas in a pod
http://antonyloewenstein.com/2010/06/29/gillard-and-israel-are-like-peas-in-a-pod/


PM's Jewish move queried
http://www.theage.com.au/national/pms-jewish-move-queried-20120124-1qfot.html


What is Gillard’s Israel visit all about?
http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/09/what-is-gillards-israel-visit-all-about/


Gillard stands by partner over Israel job link
http://www.smh.com.au/national/gillard-stands-by-partner-over-israel-job-link-20100629-zjcx.html


Prime Minister addresses Australia-Israel Chamber of Commerce
http://www.jwire.com.au/news/prime-minister-addresses-australia-israel-chamber-of-commerce/22340

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/Seawings/Religion/Spiritual/Comic/ZionistHRCcartoon7.jpg

...anyway, what has Israel got to do with Religion these days? Can't half tell they want to be the premier Military expression (especially upon an individual level) in the World.

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 8:26am:

...anyway, what has Israel got to do with Religion these days? Can't half tell they want to be the premier Military expression (especially upon an individual level) in the World.

For many Jews Israel is about tribal nationalism and getting free land.

The US $3 billion annual aid for Israel has a lot to with religion.

Nearly 1/3 of American voters are fundy evangelicals.

For Evangelicals, Supporting Israel Is ‘God’s Foreign Policy’
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/14/washington/14israel.html?pagewanted=all

On the Road to Armageddon


While only 36 percent of all Americans believe that the Bible is God's Word and should be taken literally, 59 percent say they believe that events predicted in the Book of Revelation will come to pass. Almost one out of four Americans believes that 9/11 was predicted in the Bible, and nearly one in five believes that he or she will live long enough to see the end of the world. Even more significant for this study, over one-third of those Americans who support Israel report that they do so because they believe the Bible teaches that the Jews must possess their own country in the Holy Land before Jesus can return...

...During the early 1980s the Israeli Ministry of Tourism recruited evangelical religious leaders for free "familiarization" tours. In time, hundreds of evangelical pastors got free trips to the Holy Land. The purpose of such promotional tours was to enable people of even limited influence to experience Israel for themselves and be shown how they might bring their own tour group to Israel. The Ministry of Tourism was interested in more than tourist dollars: here was a way of building a solid corps of non-Jewish supporters for Israel in the United States by bringing large numbers of evangelicals to hear and see Israel's story for themselves. The strategy caught on.

Getting American evangelicals to travel to Israel was only half of the Israeli strategy. The other half was to create a politically-engaged, pro-Israel force among conservative American Christians in the United States. Shortly after the Six-Day War, elements within the Israeli government saw the potential power of the evangelical subculture and began to mobilize it as a base of support that could influence American foreign policy. The Israeli government sent Yona Malachy of its Department of Religious Affairs to the United States to study American fundamentalism and its potential as an ally of Israel. Malachy was warmly received by fundamentalists and was able to influence some of them to issue strong pro-Israeli manifestos. By the mid-1980s, there was a discernible shift in the Israeli political strategy. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the Jewish state's major lobbying group in Washington, D.C., started re-aligning itself with the American political right-wing, including Christian conservatives. Israel's timing was perfect. It began working seriously with American dispensationalists at the precise moment that American fundamentalists and evangelicals were discovering their political voice.

American dispensationalists liked the attention and were willing to organize their constituents to support Israel in a variety of ways. One of the first groups of this kind was the National Leadership Conference for Israel, founded by Pentecostal preacher David Lewis. It supports Israel by scheduling conferences, organizing letter-writing campaigns, placing advertisements in newspapers and putting on large public rallies. Another group is Christians for Israel, whose main purpose is to help Jews from the former Soviet Union immigrate to Israel. Its "exodus" program claims to assist 1,200 Jews per month.

Probably the largest pro-Israel organization of its kind is the National Unity Coalition for Israel, which was founded by a Jewish woman who learned how to get dispensationalist support. NUCI opposes "the establishment of a Palestinian state within the borders of Israel." The organization distributes an array of newsletters and "chutzpah action alerts" to keep its members informed and involved and claims that it can mount a "virtual March on the White House" at a moment's notice if necessary.

Bridges for Peace is an educational and charitable organization that is driven by its view of Bible prophecy. In addition to sponsoring a variety of tours and educational opportunities, the organization operates the largest food bank in Israel. Christian Friends of Israeli Communities pairs up individual evangelical congregations in America with Israeli settlements on the West Bank.

Dispensationalists are also strong supporters of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, which was founded and is still run by an Orthodox Jewish rabbi named Yechiel Eckstein. The IFCJ sponsors a number of humanitarian projects to help Jews from the former Soviet Union to immigrate to Israel, provides support for Jews in Russia who are destitute and cannot leave, and aids the poor and needy in Jerusalem.

If dispensationalists have been Israel's best friends for the last 30 years, what has such friendship produced? One result has been the emergence of a strong and apparently unwavering supporter for Israel in the United States. The many pro-Israel organizations created by dispensationalists have undoubtedly made a difference. In a political world in which popular pressure counts, Israel is in a stronger position today because of the willingness of American premillennialists to throw their political clout around. The willingness of Christian conservatives to stand up for Israel has helped U.S./Israeli relations stay strong.

There is a downside to the dispensationalist/Israeli friendship. In their commitment to keep Israel strong and moving in directions prophesied by the Bible, dispensationalists are supporting some of the most dangerous elements in Israeli society. They do so because such political and religious elements seem to conform to dispensationalist beliefs about what is coming next for Israel. By lending their support-both financial and spiritual-to such groups, dispensationalists are helping the future they envision come to pass.

Throughout their history, dispensationalists have predicted that before the final events of the End Times can take place, the Temple must be rebuilt in Jerusalem. According to their scenario, half way through the Great Tribulation, Antichrist will enter the restored Temple and declare himself to be God. To outsiders, such predictions always seemed farfetched. But in the Six-Day War Israel gained control of the entire city of Jerusalem, including the Temple Mount. Suddenly all things seemed possible, at least to some people.

Anticipating a Third Temple was nothing new for the dispensationalists. For over a century they had been predicting that once Jews re-gathered in the Holy Land they would eventually build a new Temple on the site of the previous two. Not all dispensationalists agreed on all the details, but in general they saw a rebuilt Temple as indispensable to the completion of God's prophetic program. Of course, there were many practical impediments to the realization of these hopes, not the least of which was the existence of the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa mosque on the site of the future Temple. How could the Temple be built, when the Temple Mount was already "occupied" by Muslim sacred sites? The answer to this question varied.

Dispensationalists could not even agree on where the new Temple would be built. There were three theories about place, based on elaborate archeological study and speculation. According to Asher Kaufman, a professor of physics at Hebrew University, the original two Temples were located on Temple Mount to the north of the Dome of the Rock. He published his findings in the Biblical Archaeological Review in 1983; but his arguments convinced few other archeologists. Kaufman did attract the attention of some leading dispensationalists, however. David Lewis, Hal Lindsey, Chuck Smith, and Chuck Missler pondered the theory with some eagerness.

A Tel Aviv architect named Tuvia Sagiv championed another theory that located past and future Temples between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque...Sagiv hoped that his findings would deter radicals who believed that in order to rebuild the Temple they must destroy the Dome of the Rock, which he feared would lead to World War III.

The third theory placed the ancient and future Temple site directly under the Dome of the Rock. Most Israeli archeologists favored this view. The most advanced work in support of the theory for a "central location" was done by Leen Ritmeyer, a Dutch-born Christian archeologist who came to Israel shortly after the Six- Day War. Most dispensationalists agreed with Ritmeyer's location for the Temple.

A few of the Bible teachers speculated about how the problem of the Dome's presence might be solved., In 1982 Louis Goldberg of Moody Bible Institute stated that in some future Arab-Israeli war, a surface to surface missile fired from Jordan or Syria might go off course and destroy the Muslim site. Dispensationalist fiction writers also gave it a try: in Salem Kirban's novel "666," the Antichrist vaporized the mosque with his ruby laser ring; and in Charles Colson's "Kingdoms in Conflict," American prophecy believers financed a plot by Israeli radicals to blow up the Dome...

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/End-Times/On-The-Road-To-Armageddon.aspx

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 8:26am:

...anyway, what has Israel got to do with Religion these days?

Everything!! Religion is their greatest weapon to finalise Globalization ... just look around you at the brainwashed Judeo-Christians and Zionists who think they will get a better deal under AmerIsrael rule. What are all the wars about?

Imagine if you can what effect Glabalization will have on the world ... With one World bank, One International council (court), that will control all governments, the food chain, medical supplies, fuel, water, all mining, All employment, ad infinitum.

Read what the Georgia Guidstones tell us:
http://thegeorgiaguidestones.com/index2.htm

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Jan wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 11:05am:

Read what the Georgia Guidstones tell us: http://thegeorgiaguidestones.com/index2.htm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/Seawings/Political/georgiaguidstonessize.jpg

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Well thanks Jan  Falah ...
have read the refs ...and have to say I'm underwhelmed.!!

These links show .... what???...... truly you have creative minds./ But ,...these creations don't stand up,... they are tenuous at best, .. I dare say you can put up more of such comment.... but
Your proofs seem farcical to me.  More of the same?? don't bother.!

What do you fear?? :-? ::)

Emma wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:18am:

Well thanks Jan  Falah ... have read the refs ...and have to say I'm underwhelmed.!! These links show .... what???...... truly you have creative minds./ But ,...these creations don't stand up,... they are tenuous at best, .. I dare say you can put up more of such comment.... but Your proofs seem farcical to me.  More of the same?? don't bother.!

For someone who claims to be ant-governments I'm surprised at your response?? The Age is tenuous??


Quote:

What do you fear?? :-? ::)

People who have no real understanding of the political arena or the agenda of Zionist bankers.

"Many treacherous acts are delivered through acts of benevolence"

Examine what globalization really is, and what it would mean to all Australians.

Jan wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 2:46am:

Emma wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 3:18pm: Sincerest apologies Jan.....its just the thought of another zealot on here was too much. Afraid your humor is too subtle for me. I'm much more literal, consequently, I often don't GET jokes.  As for devilish Zionists..... they are our enemies you say?  Why?  and why do you say we have a Zionist governmemt. :o ::) No Probs, apologies accepted  [smiley=wink.gif] I'm sorry to say this, but if you don't get subtle jokes, there wouldn't be much you do get in here, because a lot of the jokes in here are often said as if they are facts and said against the very people (like myself, Abu and Falah) who in fact are telling the truth. The ones who are against the truth are pro Government and for a very good (to them) reason. They are PRO Globalisation and make jokes to suppress anything that links them to a zionist take-over. I would suggest you bone up on Zionism, what it is, what it really means and what it has to do with our government post haste, because it's been with us since we were just a colony and has grown with this country and shaped our attitudes and our laws. Zionism is behind every choice our government makes and globalism is the 'final solution'. It's a very long story and unfortunately it encompasses the topic you seem to have a problem with, ie 'religion', and nothing can be proven without the facts to go along with any subject. To study something in total to arrive at 'truth', it's necessary to read and understand all sides and from all people, even those you find distasteful and disagree with. You asked why I say we have a Zionist Government? Well unfortunately some of the answers are in Falah's links, and they are the sort of facts I too would have to submit to explain. I am desperately looking for an article I have lost (from my computer) from a uni newspaper, of a university profile (for votes for a position on a Uni campus) that [highlight]Julia Gillard wrote herself, in it she admits to being a lesbian. [/highlight]

I thought that has been outed as a fake or rather a tampered with article.

The original DIDNT have her admit to lesbianism.

Some scallywag photoshopped it to cause trouble.

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Jan wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 2:46am: Emma wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 3:18pm: Sincerest apologies Jan.....its just the thought of another zealot on here was too much. Afraid your humor is too subtle for me. I'm much more literal, consequently, I often don't GET jokes.  As for devilish Zionists..... they are our enemies you say?  Why?  and why do you say we have a Zionist governmemt. :o ::) No Probs, apologies accepted  [smiley=wink.gif] I am desperately looking for an article I have lost (from my computer) from a uni newspaper, of a university profile (for votes for a position on a Uni campus) that [highlight]Julia Gillard wrote herself, in it she admits to being a lesbian. [/highlight] I thought that has been outed as a fake or rather a tampered with article. The original DIDNT have her admit to lesbianism. Some scallywag photoshopped it to cause trouble.

Produce the evidence of that!!!

Anyway What the article said -she said, was "I can relate to these issues because I have had a lesbian relationship".

However, false or not, it has long been an issue regarding her sexuality (no men in her life), and the fact she now lives with a gay man (for political reasons?).

Now that she's Prime Minister (living with a gay hairdresser) it would be easy to arrange a denial ... just like Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate.

"Oh what a tangled web they weave, when first they practice to deceive".

Ju liar, Kevine, and A. bott, are like tweedledum and tweedledee, playing with the mad hatter down the 'rabbit hole'.

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They all speak politesian.

Jan wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:54pm:

Produce the evidence of that!!!

No wait!! ... Let me!

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There that's better ... It was 'Support' for homosexuals she was offering ... and now that she's Prime Minister she won't allow Gay marriages??????

Ju Liar! Ju Liar!!! What are you REALLY saying?

Oh my!!! Julia has lesbianic tendencies.  Who Knew?


Well...everyone I guess....

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:46pm:

Oh my!!! Julia has lesbianic tendencies.  Who Knew? Well...everyone I guess....

Who cares though?

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:48pm:

... wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 5:46pm: Oh my!!! Julia has lesbianic tendencies.  Who Knew? Well...everyone I guess.... Who cares though?

I expect it holds a similar level of interest to the latest inane statement uttered by lady gaga - and thta crap is all over the news.

Jan wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:54pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:12pm: Jan wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 2:46am: Emma wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 3:18pm: Sincerest apologies Jan.....its just the thought of another zealot on here was too much. Afraid your humor is too subtle for me. I'm much more literal, consequently, I often don't GET jokes.  As for devilish Zionists..... they are our enemies you say?  Why?  and why do you say we have a Zionist governmemt. :o ::) No Probs, apologies accepted  [smiley=wink.gif] I am desperately looking for an article I have lost (from my computer) from a uni newspaper, of a university profile (for votes for a position on a Uni campus) that [highlight]Julia Gillard wrote herself, in it she admits to being a lesbian. [/highlight] I thought that has been outed as a fake or rather a tampered with article. The original DIDNT have her admit to lesbianism. Some scallywag photoshopped it to cause trouble. Produce the evidence of that!!!

Not much point as you must be the only person to still be a believer. There's enough to criticise about J. Gillard without made up shite.

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:48pm:

... wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 5:46pm: Oh my!!! Julia has lesbianic tendencies.  Who Knew? Well...everyone I guess.... Who cares though?

I couldn't care less what her sexual preferences are but I do care that she's a bloody liar and not trustwothy ... Still, then again all pollies lie, she just happens to lie bigger and more often.

Then I'd guess that makes her superior, don't you?  Given what we prize in our pollies, which is piles of steaming crap. :)

Emma wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 2:05am:

Then I'd guess that makes her superior, don't you?  Given what we prize in our pollies, which is piles of steaming crap. :)

Not at all. Juliar (the sock puppet of Zion) takes her cues (and her lies) from the Zionists MSM, and the average party faithful hacks low IQ sucks them up as if they're  food of the gods.

That don't make her "superior", just dumb.

Jan wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 1:53am:

I couldn't care less what her sexual preferences are but I do care that she's a bloody liar and not trustwothy ... Still, then again all pollies lie, she just happens to lie bigger and more often.

Hardly a credible comment in comparison to Mr Howard where his own party, for very good reason  christened him the Lying Rodent or Mr Abbott who had to advise us not to believe what he is saying because in the heat of the moment he tells lies.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

Jan wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 1:53am: I couldn't care less what her sexual preferences are but I do care that she's a bloody liar and not trustwothy ... Still, then again all pollies lie, she just happens to lie bigger and more often. Hardly a credible comment in comparison to Mr Howard where his own party, for very good reason  christened him the Lying Rodent or Mr Abbott who had to advise us not to believe what he is saying because in the heat of the moment he tells lies.

"No it's not possible that we're bringing in the carbon tax, that is a hysterically inaccurate claim being made by the Coalition."

"There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"

I guess that makes gillard and swan  lying RATS. Oh mustn't forget the signed agreement with Wilkie she broke either.

The Noalition supports the carbon tax as they have supported every radical agenda of the political class they are intrinsically a part of - the No of the Noalition is a charade to give the illusion of choice. 8-)

Dnarever wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

Jan wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 1:53am: I couldn't care less what her sexual preferences are but I do care that she's a bloody liar and not trustwothy ... Still, then again all pollies lie, she just happens to lie bigger and more often. Hardly a credible comment in comparison to Mr Howard where his own party, for very good reason  christened him the Lying Rodent or Mr Abbott who had to advise us not to believe what he is saying because in the heat of the moment he tells lies.

Like I have said numerous times, Tweedledum and tweedledee, and the public are stupid enough to believe we have a choice ... They ALL lie.

Howard was clever enough to sound convincing until the lies became so obvious that even kids could recognise them.

John Howard wears the Yamulke

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Jan wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 2:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 7:43pm: Jan wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 1:53am: I couldn't care less what her sexual preferences are but I do care that she's a bloody liar and not trustwothy ... Still, then again all pollies lie, she just happens to lie bigger and more often. Hardly a credible comment in comparison to Mr Howard where his own party, for very good reason  christened him the Lying Rodent or Mr Abbott who had to advise us not to believe what he is saying because in the heat of the moment he tells lies. Like I have said numerous times, Tweedledum and tweedledee, and the public are stupid enough to believe we have a choice ... They ALL lie. Howard was clever enough to sound convincing until the lies became so obvious that even kids could recognise them. John Howard wears the Yamulke http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/Seawings/Political/images.jpg

Lying? Howard was just making non-core promises.

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